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(Engadget)   Boston Dynamics, the creators of the robot mule BigDog, the robotic running Cheetah and the Terminator-esque Petman humanoid robot, unveil their latest creation for hunting down Sarah Connor   (engadget.com) divider line 49
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2013-07-12 09:32:13 AM
What could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-07-12 10:26:29 AM
Great.  Just what we need.  Earthquake happens, we're all trapped beneath the rubble, we hear rescuers digging to reach us, and just as we think we're about to be pulled out that thing comes to pulverize our heads in with its metal fists of doom.  At least they can throw our corpses on that horrific mule/horse thing to bounce around as it carries us to our funerals afterwards.
 
2013-07-12 10:26:42 AM
Is it a requirement of this contest that they look human or animal shaped? Or is that just psychology at work. The Chimp one looked sweet, but did it really need a head? Do any of them need heads? Is there something stopping them from putting the sensors elsewhere instead of concentrating them in a head?

If the point of the competition is to make them humany shaped, ok. I would have thought we would have seen an insect inspired bot in there, at least 1. Built like a spider or skitter thing from falling skies.
 
2013-07-12 10:34:26 AM

neongoats: Is it a requirement of this contest that they look human or animal shaped? Or is that just psychology at work. The Chimp one looked sweet, but did it really need a head? Do any of them need heads? Is there something stopping them from putting the sensors elsewhere instead of concentrating them in a head?

If the point of the competition is to make them humany shaped, ok. I would have thought we would have seen an insect inspired bot in there, at least 1. Built like a spider or skitter thing from falling skies.


I think it was from Asimov's robot trilogy but the book argued that a humanoid robot was better because it was existing in a human world was would have to perform human tasks. You could have a specialized robot for each task or one humanoid robot that could do all of them and use human tools.
 
2013-07-12 10:38:36 AM
I choose dying in an earthquake over the existence of this thing hanging around waiting for an earthquake to rescue me from.
 
2013-07-12 10:43:45 AM
So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.
 
2013-07-12 10:49:08 AM
And down the hall, in Advanced Weapons Development, the Phased Plasma Rifle project proceeds briskly...
 
2013-07-12 10:55:11 AM
Cylons are born.

/All this has happened before and will happen again.
 
2013-07-12 10:57:00 AM
I missed the part about the earthquake rescue. Does it say, "Come with me if you want to live."
 
2013-07-12 11:00:45 AM

neongoats: Is it a requirement of this contest that they look human or animal shaped? Or is that just psychology at work. The Chimp one looked sweet, but did it really need a head? Do any of them need heads? Is there something stopping them from putting the sensors elsewhere instead of concentrating them in a head?

If the point of the competition is to make them humany shaped, ok. I would have thought we would have seen an insect inspired bot in there, at least 1. Built like a spider or skitter thing from falling skies.


The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

And then, well, in for a penny, in for a pound.
 
2013-07-12 11:03:22 AM

tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.




Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.
 
2013-07-12 11:27:18 AM
did they at least program a complete set of the 3 laws of robotics into it first?
 
2013-07-12 11:38:05 AM

LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.


I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.
 
2013-07-12 11:42:15 AM

Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.


Well, you know, stairs are a bit of a thing.
 
2013-07-12 11:44:17 AM

LasersHurt: Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.

Well, you know, stairs are a bit of a thing.


Yeah stairs are tough, but I'm guessing if my dog and cat and your average spider can navigate them, a robot with locomotion designed around 4 or more legs would probably do just fine.
 
2013-07-12 11:45:26 AM

LasersHurt: Well, you know, stairs are a bit of a thing.


they'll learn to hover, like the daleks did
 
2013-07-12 11:47:02 AM

neongoats: LasersHurt: Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.

Well, you know, stairs are a bit of a thing.

Yeah stairs are tough, but I'm guessing if my dog and cat and your average spider can navigate them, a robot with locomotion designed around 4 or more legs would probably do just fine.


Sure, if you want a Spider-Centaur wandering your house.
 
2013-07-12 11:51:44 AM
 
2013-07-12 11:52:19 AM
No fate but what we make.
 
2013-07-12 11:53:31 AM

LasersHurt: neongoats: LasersHurt: Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.

Well, you know, stairs are a bit of a thing.

Yeah stairs are tough, but I'm guessing if my dog and cat and your average spider can navigate them, a robot with locomotion designed around 4 or more legs would probably do just fine.

Sure, if you want a Spider-Centaur wandering your house.


I don't. I want it wandering blasted out ruins, piles of rubble, and exploded or collapsed buildings looking for survivors and moving large chunks of debris to help rescue personnel, and etc. I think a Drider-bot would navigate that type of activity much better than some anthropomorphised terminator-clone.
 
2013-07-12 12:00:29 PM

Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.




You said it yourself "in a human world".
A human sized robot would be able to navigate and operate our homes as efficiently as we do. It could drive our vehicles, wear our armor, use our tools and weaponry, and interface smoothly with a human controller in a motion capture rig.
Everything we make for ourselves, designed with us in mind, would work with this machine.

You could put that upper torso on a cart, But now the warmachine is restricted to operating in battlefields with handicap access.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-07-12 12:08:07 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
"After I'm done telling all my robot brothers and sisters to kill all you meatbags we're all gonna use your guts for oil".
 
2013-07-12 12:12:06 PM
This will surely end well, said nobody
 
2013-07-12 12:21:15 PM
At first cool and then.........uhm....
www.jeffbots.com
oh shiat, we may be in trouble here.
 
2013-07-12 12:36:17 PM

Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.


The goal isn't battle bots or rescue bots or whatever. They're just making those to get DARPA funding. The real goal is sex bots.
 
2013-07-12 12:37:56 PM

way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.


7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.
 
2013-07-12 12:55:08 PM

Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.


I think one of the goals in the DARPA challenge (that this 'bot is being made for) is to ascend a ladder.
 
2013-07-12 01:01:16 PM

neongoats: Is it a requirement of this contest that they look human or animal shaped? Or is that just psychology at work. The Chimp one looked sweet, but did it really need a head? Do any of them need heads? Is there something stopping them from putting the sensors elsewhere instead of concentrating them in a head?


LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight


Saiga410: LasersHurt: The humanoid body makes it more versatile for working in a human world. Once you've got that, you want the sensors on the top for greatest range and line of sight.

I can see the basic humaniod torso working best in a human world (but even then more arms would not be a detrament if the extra arms did not impede the movement of others) but I fail to see why making a robot bipedal does anything outside of making it less stable.  The view of the humaniod shape being best is pure hubris.


way south: You said it yourself "in a human world".
A human sized robot would be able to navigate and operate our homes as efficiently as we do. It could drive our vehicles, wear our armor, use our tools and weaponry, and interface smoothly with a human controller in a motion capture rig.
Everything we make for ourselves, designed with us in mind, would work with this machine.


These are the basic requirements of the first DARPA robotics challenge, which is driving the creation of this particular robot. From the wiki:

The Robotics Challenge will focus on disaster or emergency-response scenarios. Although the requirements may change as the contest progresses, the initial task requirements for robot entries is:[2]

1. Drive a utility vehicle at the site.
2. Travel dismounted across rubble.
3. Remove debris blocking an entryway.
4. Open a door and enter a building.
5. Climb an industrial ladder and traverse an industrial walkway.
6. Use a tool to break through a concrete panel.
7. Locate and close a valve near a leaking pipe.
8. Replace a component such as a cooling pump.


It's hard to imagine a quadripedal robot achieving all of that. Some things, like driving a car, would at the minimum require it to fold up into a rough human shape. Most of the challenges require things like articulated hands. At least in this competition, the government is the one dictating that the form should be a human-analogue.
 
2013-07-12 01:10:16 PM

tedthebellhopp: way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.

7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.


FN-FAL?
 
2013-07-12 01:12:41 PM
I find the browning of trousers in the comments amusing, especially on the YouTube videos of ATLAS in action.  My favorite so far:

"this is not a good thing people! maybe if this was developed by some trustworthy and peaceful nation it would be, but the fact that one of the most criminal and dangerus governments is soon to get their hands on this kind of killing machine scares the shiat out of me."

Perhaps by killing machine, he meant 300+ lbs of metal that might accidentally step on someone because the squishy object was out of its' field of view at the time and had moved after it was seen and registered the first time.

People have been attributing intelligence to machines since the first puppet show.  Just because something moves like a living thing doesn't mean it knows how to interpret the physical universe, much less spontaneously become self-aware.

If during the last DARPA challenge one of the autonomous cars suddenly drove off the track, chased down, and plowed into a busload of nuns, would there be people pumping shotgun shells into the CPU chassis just to make sure it didn't infect the other cars with Terminator cooties?  Or, more likely, would farkers be making dead nun jokes while the SW guys picked through event logs to figure out how "bus" got mixed up with "curb" in the image recognition code.
 
2013-07-12 01:19:13 PM

Prussian_Roulette: "this is not a good thing people! maybe if this was developed by some trustworthy and peaceful nation it would be, but the fact that one of the most criminal and dangerus governments is soon to get their hands on this kind of killing machine scares the shiat out of me."

Perhaps by killing machine, he meant 300+ lbs of metal that might accidentally step on someone because the squishy object was out of its' field of view at the time and had moved after it was seen and registered the first time.


It's a killing machine in the way that a Toaster is, at this point. Someone could kill you with it, with enough effort, but it's not  coming to get you.
 
2013-07-12 01:33:17 PM

washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.

7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.

FN-FAL?


L1A1 the inch version of the FAL
 
2013-07-12 01:42:40 PM

Prussian_Roulette: I find the browning of trousers in the comments amusing, especially on the YouTube videos of ATLAS in action. My favorite so far:

"this is not a good thing people! maybe if this was developed by some trustworthy and peaceful nation it would be, but the fact that one of the most criminal and dangerus governments is soon to get their hands on this kind of killing machine scares the shiat out of me."

Perhaps by killing machine, he meant 300+ lbs of metal that might accidentally step on someone because the squishy object was out of its' field of view at the time and had moved after it was seen and registered the first time.


I think by "killing machine" he means anything that an ambitious person might look at and say, "Hey, you know, a tweak here and a tweak there, and I bet I could use this to chase down my enemies." Sort of like how some smart guy looked at an early unmanned drone and said, "You know, if we add some rocket launchers to this it would be useful for a lot more than taking pictures."
He's not whining because he thinks the damned thing is alive. He's whining because he doesn't trust the US government to use any technology for peaceful purposes.
 
2013-07-12 02:11:12 PM
rumpelstiltskin: I think by "killing machine" he means anything that an ambitious person might look at and say, "Hey, you know, a tweak here and a tweak there, and I bet I could use this to chase down my enemies." Sort of like how some smart guy looked at an early unmanned drone and said, "You know, if we add some rocket launchers to this it would be useful for a lot more than taking pictures."
He's not whining because he thinks the damned thing is alive. He's whining because he doesn't trust the US government to use any technology for peaceful purposes.


Well then, I suppose he can start a petition or protest to ban the existence of the Internet, GPS, and satellite imagery because all that tech could be used by the US Gov't to hunt him down and kill him.

Here's more food for thought: when Robby the Robot can pull my clothes out of the dryer, clean the lint filter, fold my shirts, put my socks in the dresser, and put leftover socks in the closet - WITHOUT me specifying a contigency action for what to do when the dresser is full - then it might be time to worry about Robby coming up with muderous ways to prevent me from hindering efficient household management when I drunk-shove him down the stairs to see whose balance algorithms are working best.
 
2013-07-12 02:57:57 PM
Ya know, I just want a dog-sized/shaped robot that I can stick a backpack on if I go hiking or with fur so I can pet it while watching TV.
 
2013-07-12 03:16:19 PM

tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.


Don't worry, my Vorcha will just flame it


/I'm Alive!
 
2013-07-12 03:56:36 PM
fc03.deviantart.net
 
2013-07-12 03:59:16 PM

tedthebellhopp: washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.

7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.

FN-FAL?

L1A1 the inch version of the FAL


Why hello there! I have one too!  I absolutely love it. Mine can shoot less than an inch @ 100 yards with the Iron sights.
 
2013-07-12 04:12:50 PM

washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.

7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.

FN-FAL?

L1A1 the inch version of the FAL

Why hello there! I have one too!  I absolutely love it. Mine can shoot less than an inch @ 100 yards with the Iron sights.


Wow 1 moa, that great grouping! what kind of L1A1 is it? Mine's an Imbel on Brit kit, no complaints for a Century, shoots great but needs to be re-crowned for the flash hider.
 
2013-07-12 04:35:02 PM
Good work, robots!
Cave Johnson, we'redonehere
 
2013-07-12 04:38:14 PM

Prussian_Roulette: rumpelstiltskin: I think by "killing machine" he means anything that an ambitious person might look at and say, "Hey, you know, a tweak here and a tweak there, and I bet I could use this to chase down my enemies." Sort of like how some smart guy looked at an early unmanned drone and said, "You know, if we add some rocket launchers to this it would be useful for a lot more than taking pictures."
He's not whining because he thinks the damned thing is alive. He's whining because he doesn't trust the US government to use any technology for peaceful purposes.

Well then, I suppose he can start a petition or protest to ban the existence of the Internet, GPS, and satellite imagery because all that tech could be used by the US Gov't to hunt him down and kill him.

Here's more food for thought: when Robby the Robot can pull my clothes out of the dryer, clean the lint filter, fold my shirts, put my socks in the dresser, and put leftover socks in the closet - WITHOUT me specifying a contigency action for what to do when the dresser is full - then it might be time to worry about Robby coming up with muderous ways to prevent me from hindering efficient household management when I drunk-shove him down the stairs to see whose balance algorithms are working best.


Alright. That last line had me LOL at the mental image
 
2013-07-12 04:41:02 PM

Ishidan: Good work, robots!
Cave Johnson, we'redonehere


Well done, android. The Enrichment Center once again reminds you that Android Hell is a real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance.
 
2013-07-12 04:54:18 PM
If autonomous, how would it be powered? Would it last more than 30 minutes?
 
2013-07-12 04:55:58 PM
If you're going to call your robot Atlas, I better see a skull head.
 
2013-07-12 08:55:48 PM

way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.



Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.


http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CranialProcessingUnit
 
2013-07-12 09:20:27 PM

tedthebellhopp: washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: washington-babylon: tedthebellhopp: way south: tedthebellhopp: So aim for that lit up chest piece with AP rounds, got it.

Considering how small the control boards could be, if I built that thing it would have them wedged between slabs of composite armor in the belly.

/every robot monster movie has the hero smashing its head.
/a real terminator would probably have nothing in there but a camera.

7.62x51 in a 20 round box mag I'll take my chances.

FN-FAL?

L1A1 the inch version of the FAL

Why hello there! I have one too!  I absolutely love it. Mine can shoot less than an inch @ 100 yards with the Iron sights.

Wow 1 moa, that great grouping! what kind of L1A1 is it? Mine's an Imbel on Brit kit, no complaints for a Century, shoots great but needs to be re-crowned for the flash hider.


Mine Is a "R1A1" by Century arms, same as a standard L1A1 but sporterized. I got really lucky and got a tack driver, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I get regular compliments at the range when I bring back targets with a sub-MOA hole after a full magazine (using a rest, of course). I want to put a EOTech HOLOSight on it and see what I can do with that.
 
2013-07-13 12:44:07 AM
DARPA?

Nothing worth my time ever came out of DARPA.

Nice troll modtards.
 
2013-07-13 02:08:06 AM
COOL?  You have no idea how hard it is to kill one of these things
 
2013-07-13 10:59:19 AM
Petman? First the Commodore then...
25.media.tumblr.com

Then...
images.celebritymoviearchive.com

Then...
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
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