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(The Atlantic Wire)   CEO of the company whose train went out of control and exploded in Quebec is learning the value of a good PR team during a crisis. Specifically, he's learning the debacle of not having a PR team   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 103
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2013-07-12 09:03:27 AM
What a whose train might look like..

di1-1.shoppingshadow.com
 
2013-07-12 09:10:19 AM
He's also getting some respect for actually speaking what he really wants to say, rather than going with the usual PR-vetted platitudes.

Of course, what he really wants to say is that he blames everyone but him, and also we should feel sorry for him because his personal net worth has gone down since 50 people got vapourized.
 
2013-07-12 09:16:48 AM
 
2013-07-12 09:22:38 AM
simlb.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-12 09:23:13 AM
Sorry...that was a good DR team. Thanks, GIS
 
2013-07-12 09:26:26 AM
I'm thinking he's gonna get sent to Siberia, like the BP guy who "wanted his life back."
 
2013-07-12 09:37:12 AM
"Oh, don't be so sentimental. Things explode every day."
 
2013-07-12 10:08:20 AM
Their crack PR team is being trained by the pros at BP even as we speak
 
2013-07-12 10:10:59 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: He's also getting some respect for actually speaking what he really wants to say, rather than going with the usual PR-vetted platitudes.

Of course, what he really wants to say is that he blames everyone but him, and also we should feel sorry for him because his personal net worth has gone down since 50 people got vapourized.


Pretty much at this point if you were to make a list of the worst possible things for a CEO to say aftr a disaster? This guy has said it this work
 
2013-07-12 10:21:37 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Their crack PR team is being trained by the pros at BP even as we speak


It reminds me of Tony Hayward complaining that he wanted his life back.
 
2013-07-12 10:23:44 AM
si0.twimg.com
 
2013-07-12 10:35:33 AM
I have to question the wisdom of allowing train that large to be unattended at any time.

Was it always that way?
 
2013-07-12 10:37:48 AM
"He told us about his 20-hour work days, about his net worth having diminished [...]"

Sounds like a CEO to me. I had a boss once that didn't pay the entire company for over a month lament how he'd had to cancel a pre-planned vacation because while it was hard on the workers, he was really the one struggling.
 
2013-07-12 10:38:38 AM
So he's gone with a combination of the BP and Paula Deen's PR firms then?
 
2013-07-12 10:39:38 AM
While we're on the subject of trains...how's your mom, subby?
 
2013-07-12 10:39:57 AM
Why does it matter how much people like him? Is him not being awkward and distant going to bring those people back to life rebuild their town and erase the memories of the disaster? Of all the things to worry about how this guy is talking to the media is pretty low on the list.
 
2013-07-12 10:41:28 AM
He used to be King Sh*t of F*ck Island, but apparently he's moved over to being the Master of Bullshiat Mountain.
 
2013-07-12 10:41:57 AM
Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.
 
2013-07-12 10:43:24 AM
He's great at PR... for the Keystone XL company.
 
2013-07-12 10:43:51 AM

buzzcut73: So he's gone with a combination of the BP and Paula Deen's PR firms then?


I am only surprised he has not hired Baghdad Bob as a spokesperson.
 
2013-07-12 10:44:00 AM

Egoy3k: Why does it matter how much people like him? Is him not being awkward and distant going to bring those people back to life rebuild their town and erase the memories of the disaster? Of all the things to worry about how this guy is talking to the media is pretty low on the list.


I think it's relevant in terms of assigning blame. If he can't organize a pr campaign, or hire someone to do so, then he's pretty much red-handed in terms of who to blame.
 
2013-07-12 10:45:40 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: "He told us about his 20-hour work days, about his net worth having diminished [...]"

Sounds like a CEO to me. I had a boss once that didn't pay the entire company for over a month lament how he'd had to cancel a pre-planned vacation because while it was hard on the workers, he was really the one struggling.


I had one of those too.  The CEO told us how there would be no raises or bonuses because times were tough.  He then proceeded to take out a Ferrari catalog and ask the employees what color he should get.  I am not kidding at all.

/csb
 
2013-07-12 10:47:52 AM

what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.


Once you're outside of Montreal, you hear French less and less, especially in the smaller towns (like this one). There is also a large chunk of separatists that refuse to speak English, even if they are able to.

Besides, French epithets are pretty awesome. Tabernacle!
 
2013-07-12 10:52:23 AM

what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.


Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.
 
2013-07-12 10:52:23 AM

what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.


Many, if not most, outside of Montreal don't speak English. They may have learned it in school, but without using it regularly, have lost it. Most will understand it to some degree, but can't string more than a few words together to save their lives. Literally.
 
2013-07-12 10:57:26 AM
Most news stories are now mentioning the oil production connection.
 
2013-07-12 10:57:51 AM

Egoy3k: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.


I've never had problems in Montreal while speaking English.  Basically, if you try to speak in French and butcher it, or if you pull out a language guide, folks will switch to English.

\but ordering deux hot dogs is always fun
 
2013-07-12 11:06:44 AM

MFAWG: I have to question the wisdom of allowing train that large to be unattended at any time.

Was it always that way?


Only for a couple of minutes.
 
2013-07-12 11:09:02 AM

MFAWG: I have to question the wisdom of allowing train that large to be unattended at any time.

Was it always that way?


To be fair, the thing was supposed to be parked for the night, including some redundant brakes.

Even so, on larger lines, they have sensors that scream bloody murder if there's unexpected movement.  The town in question is on a much smaller line which doesn't have those sensors.
 
2013-07-12 11:12:40 AM
Who else thinks that CEO sounds like the Judge in Futurama?

(I know, I'm not helping....)
 
2013-07-12 11:18:30 AM

what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.


S'one of the reasons I've never trusted the Quebecois: The Speak French VOLUNTARILY.  I mean I understand why the French do it, they're in France, what the fark else are they gonna speak? German?  But people in Quebec?  They could just soeak English and join the rest of the farking continent, but no instead they CHOOSE to use that moon-man palaaver instead.  How could you every trust anyoen like that?

/BTW had that train blown up a small town in parts of  TX, say Flatonia, it's  likely the residents would have been equally unable to understand the CEO as most of the residents of the area speak only Czech.  Living in the middle
 
2013-07-12 11:23:55 AM
Magorn:
S'one of the reasons I've never trusted the Quebecois: The Speak French VOLUNTARILY.  I mean I understand why the French do it, they're in France, what the fark else are they gonna speak? German?  But people in Quebec?  They could just soeak English and join the rest of the farking continent, but no instead they CHOOSE to use that moon-man palaaver instead.  How could you every trust anyoen like that?

Well, it's not like Quebec is in England either, why should English be the default language?
 
2013-07-12 11:26:25 AM

what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.


IMHO, they understand English just fine for the most part but choose to pretend that they don't. That's not true of all Quebecers, of course, but it happens more often than you might guess.
 
2013-07-12 11:28:24 AM

Jument: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

IMHO, they understand English just fine for the most part but choose to pretend that they don't. That's not true of all Quebecers, of course, but it happens more often than you might guess.


...and now I'm replaying that scene from Babylon 5 in my head.
 
2013-07-12 11:28:54 AM

MagicBoris: Magorn:
S'one of the reasons I've never trusted the Quebecois: The Speak French VOLUNTARILY.  I mean I understand why the French do it, they're in France, what the fark else are they gonna speak? German?  But people in Quebec?  They could just soeak English and join the rest of the farking continent, but no instead they CHOOSE to use that moon-man palaaver instead.  How could you every trust anyoen like that?

Well, it's not like Quebec is in England either, why should English be the default language?


well because, Ironically, English is now the Lingua Franca of the world, so if you have a choice why not pick the one with the greater utility and interoperability? Speaking French instead of English makes about as much sense as buying a Mac (pretend we're still in the the mid 90's) instead of a PC
 
2013-07-12 11:29:24 AM

Egoy3k: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.


They don't like rum? What the hell?  The SAQ here in Gatineau has the good St. Lucia stuff.
 
2013-07-12 11:29:45 AM
Really.

Think aboot it.

We're talking about an industry whose radio spots include crowing about their fuel economy. ("One ton of freight over 500 miles on a single gallon of fuel.") In other words, we're talking about an industry which foists all the fuel wastage upon car drivers, via repeated stoppage.
 
2013-07-12 11:30:07 AM

CheatCommando: buzzcut73: So he's gone with a combination of the BP and Paula Deen's PR firms then?

I am only surprised he has not hired Baghdad Bob as a spokesperson.


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2013-07-12 11:32:23 AM

Glenford: Besides, French epithets are pretty awesome. Tabernacle!


Try again, Pierre.
 
2013-07-12 11:36:02 AM
Magorn:

well because, Ironically, English is now the Lingua Franca of the world, so if you have a choice why not pick the one with the greater utility and interoperability? Speaking French instead of English makes about as much sense as buying a Mac (pretend we're still in the the mid 90's) instead of a PC

I understand that point of view, but honestly, from my perspective what you're saying is basically "You know, it would be much more convenient for you if you stopped passing down your history, language, values and culture to your children and taught ours instead."

(And I'm not saying that to be confrontational, I'm just trying to explain what it's like from the inside.)

/Sorry about the slippery threadjack slope
 
2013-07-12 11:37:05 AM

over_and_done: MFAWG: I have to question the wisdom of allowing train that large to be unattended at any time.

Was it always that way?

To be fair, the thing was supposed to be parked for the night, including some redundant brakes.

Even so, on larger lines, they have sensors that scream bloody murder if there's unexpected movement.  The town in question is on a much smaller line which doesn't have those sensors.


Maybe somebody should be in the train at all times, because you never know what could happen.
 
2013-07-12 11:40:46 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Egoy3k: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.

They don't like rum? What the hell?  The SAQ here in Gatineau has the good St. Lucia stuff.


The rum options in that particular store consisted of a dusty row of Captain Morgan.
 
2013-07-12 11:44:12 AM

Egoy3k: God Is My Co-Pirate: Egoy3k: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.

They don't like rum? What the hell?  The SAQ here in Gatineau has the good St. Lucia stuff.

The rum options in that particular store consisted of a dusty row of Captain Morgan.


What's more puzzling to me is the fact that there was a language barrier about rum, which is rhum in French and pronounced pretty much the same way...
 
2013-07-12 11:48:23 AM

MagicBoris: Egoy3k: God Is My Co-Pirate: Egoy3k: what_now: Even though many of the residents couldn't understand what he was saying, they shouted insults, in English and in French.

How the hell does this happen? I get that Quebec is a French speaking province, but they don't speak English? At all? That's...bizarre.

Metopolitan areas speak lots of english and the majority of the population is bi or tri lingual.  The Eastern townships are not like that.  Me trying to find rum in a liquor store in Sherbrook was hilarious. Basically once we overcame the language barrier we then had to overcome the 'why would anyone want rum?' barrier.

They don't like rum? What the hell?  The SAQ here in Gatineau has the good St. Lucia stuff.

The rum options in that particular store consisted of a dusty row of Captain Morgan.

What's more puzzling to me is the fact that there was a language barrier about rum, which is rhum in French and pronounced pretty much the same way...


Don't ask me, maybe the problem was stupidity related.  Either way Sherbrook is nice place to visit despite the distinct lack of rum that I experienced while there.
 
2013-07-12 11:50:17 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: CheatCommando: buzzcut73: So he's gone with a combination of the BP and Paula Deen's PR firms then?

I am only surprised he has not hired Baghdad Bob as a spokesperson.

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Nice work!
 
2013-07-12 12:00:40 PM

EngineerAU: He's great at PR... for the Keystone XL company.


I wonder what would be a safer method of transporting vital energy supplies than trains moving through centers of population? Hmm .... thinking, thinking ...

www.thinkgreenliveclean.com
 
2013-07-12 12:03:05 PM

EngineerAU: He's great at PR... for the Keystone XL company.


I have a co-worker who is a total train geek. He postulated that this was sabotage.

Right now, the opponents of the Keystone pipeline like to point out that the pipeline isn't necessary, as we already have trains. Why screw up the environment with an epic pipeline just to cut shipping costs for oil companies (the most profitable industry in human history)?

Well, what if those trains aren't safe?

He finds it really hard to believe all those safety measures failed. On an oil train. Which then rolled out of control. And exploded.

Sometimes, a coincidence isn't just a coincidence - especially when ruthless billionaires stand to gain even more money.
 
2013-07-12 12:08:00 PM

MagicBoris: Magorn:

well because, Ironically, English is now the Lingua Franca of the world, so if you have a choice why not pick the one with the greater utility and interoperability? Speaking French instead of English makes about as much sense as buying a Mac (pretend we're still in the the mid 90's) instead of a PC

I understand that point of view, but honestly, from my perspective what you're saying is basically "You know, it would be much more convenient for you if you stopped passing down your history, language, values and culture to your children and taught ours instead."

(And I'm not saying that to be confrontational, I'm just trying to explain what it's like from the inside.)

/Sorry about the slippery threadjack slope


No, my toungue was firmly in my cheek...but I will say, that not at least being functional in english, in the northern half of North America, is a farily foolish thing to do, just like where I live and going south at least a working knowledge of Spanish is something everyone should have
 
2013-07-12 12:08:25 PM

Magorn: S'one of the reasons I've never trusted the Quebecois: The Speak French VOLUNTARILY.  I mean I understand why the French do it, they're in France, what the fark else are they gonna speak? German?


They would be, by God, if we hadn't pulled their pansy-ass bacon out of the fire in dubya-dubya two! Be sure to remind them at every opportunity.
 
2013-07-12 12:12:38 PM
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He just wants his life back.
 
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