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2013-07-12 09:38:12 AM  
If we didn't have California we'd have to make fun of another state....wait.
 
2013-07-12 09:38:15 AM  
You know what California's problem is??? (Just like New York City....)
 
2013-07-12 09:40:50 AM  
We would eat the babies of illegal immigrants.  This is just a modest proposal.
 
2013-07-12 09:43:19 AM  
Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!
 
2013-07-12 09:44:45 AM  

manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!


No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.
 
2013-07-12 09:45:37 AM  
I think the dumbest thing I hear on the regular (about once every 3 months on either the internet or in real life) is "I'm never going to California because of immigrants/libs/laws/Pelosi."  It's silly because California is not San Francisco, and even then you're missing out on one of the most unique cities in the United States.

I heard the other day that California sucks because it's illegal to own guns there.  This person was a lifelong Georgian so I excused his lack of ability to research things on the internet.

Georgia Public Schools:  Because someone has to build the cars.
 
2013-07-12 09:48:06 AM  

leonel: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.


Says the guy from Seattle texting with one hand and his latte in the other hand, driving his Prius to the market to pickup some fiddle heads and gooey ducks.  Why don't you eat cheeseburgers like a real American?
 
2013-07-12 09:48:20 AM  

manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!


Dude, I've lived in CA all my life and I'd MUCH prefer to live in Bumfark Idaho but there isn't much work there.  Love the state, hate the politics.
 
2013-07-12 09:50:19 AM  
"California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.
 
2013-07-12 09:52:09 AM  
leonel:

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.

They're all over the West.  Even Wyoming.  Although in my backyard, they squabble with the invading Texans, which an amusing break in the despair.
 
2013-07-12 09:56:50 AM  
Doo doo pie?
 
2013-07-12 09:57:00 AM  

manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!


Better?  Nah, too subjective.  But it's possible they might want to avoid the state with the highest poverty rate* in the nation.

But if you personally can afford it, kudos.  It's quite nice out there for the reasonably well off.  You could probably live like a king elsewhere, but I guess then you'd be forced to consort with 'those people'


* Supplemental Poverty Measure (a.k.a. the U.S. Census Bureau measure that takes into account cost of living)

/one of 'those people'.
 
2013-07-12 09:57:09 AM  
Pretty valid question if you watched Gasland part 2 where they talked about the shale reserves under CA farm country.
 
WGJ [TotalFark]
2013-07-12 09:57:41 AM  
Let's see... Cheap fruits and vegetables or Lohan, Beiber, Hilton and the rest.

Let it slide into the ocean.
 
2013-07-12 09:57:55 AM  

Rapmaster2000: leonel: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.

Says the guy from Seattle texting with one hand and his latte in the other hand, driving his Prius to the market to pickup some fiddle heads and gooey ducks.  Why don't you eat cheeseburgers like a real American?


Hey, I'm still in Seattle, not screwing up some neighboring states' good time with my driving or holier-than-thou attitude.
 
2013-07-12 09:57:56 AM  

DrunkenBob: leonel:

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.

They're all over the West.  Even Wyoming.  Although in my backyard, they squabble with the invading Texans, which an amusing break in the despair.


Yeah, those stupid libs must be fleeing their socialist dystopia. It can be the only reason why you find a transplant from the state that accounts for 1/8th the population of the entire nation.
 
2013-07-12 09:59:15 AM  
We would eat more things grown from Florida or tropical countries, like Brazil.
 
2013-07-12 09:59:16 AM  

DrunkenBob: leonel:

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.

They're all over the West.  Even Wyoming.  Although in my backyard, they squabble with the invading Texans, which an amusing break in the despair.


The Californians are invading NC as well, where they argue with the invading Yankees about how much better things were back home. We got so tired of this we dis-elected a bunch of corrupt members of the Coke party and elected a supermajority of idiot members of the Pepsi party in homes of driving some of them out.

Doesn't seem to have worked, unfortunately.
 
2013-07-12 09:59:32 AM  
They also grow Lindsay olives which I eat every day.
 
2013-07-12 10:00:15 AM  

OldManDownDRoad: DrunkenBob: leonel:

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.

They're all over the West.  Even Wyoming.  Although in my backyard, they squabble with the invading Texans, which an amusing break in the despair.

The Californians are invading NC as well, where they argue with the invading Yankees about how much better things were back home. We got so tired of this we dis-elected a bunch of corrupt members of the Coke party and elected a supermajority of idiot members of the Pepsi party in homes of driving some of them out.

Doesn't seem to have worked, unfortunately.


"in HOPES of of driving them out"

/dammit
 
2013-07-12 10:01:26 AM  
We'd eat Mexican imports which we've pretty much been doing anyway.
 
2013-07-12 10:02:39 AM  

bopis: "California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.


Yes, but to be fair the growing season in those places is short.
Other big agriculture states like California & Florida can grow food all year long.
 
2013-07-12 10:02:45 AM  
those fruits and vegetables have to be picked by someone, guess who does it? as opposed to the grain-producing states, where you have one angry white guy in an air-conditioned, GPS-controlled vehicle listening to glenn beck on satellite radio.

i don't know if cheap immigrant labor gave rise to CA's preference for labor-intensive crops, or if the crops pulled in the laborers...i suspect it's both...
 
2013-07-12 10:08:58 AM  

Tad_Waxpole: bopis: "California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.

Yes, but to be fair the growing season in those places is short.
Other big agriculture states like California & Florida can grow food all year long.


So how much wheat and soybeans is CA and FL growing year round?
Basically CA is growing luxury items, not staple foods.
 
2013-07-12 10:11:18 AM  
nevada legally sells va jay jay, so I would be eating that.
 
2013-07-12 10:11:35 AM  
California is America's parents that used to be hip but have lately begun to seem totally lame to us, but we know we can't do anything until we grow up and move out of their totally lame house. I mean they just spend all their money on stuff anyway and it's just pathetic. We're going to the MALL!
 
2013-07-12 10:11:48 AM  

manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!


don't pretend that CA is some kind of paradise, there are plenty of shiat places to live in the State and they've got more than their fair share of bullshiat politics.

/and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that pretty much everyone here knows better than to think that the Bay Area is representative of the rest of the State
 
2013-07-12 10:12:18 AM  

bopis: Tad_Waxpole: bopis: "California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.

Yes, but to be fair the growing season in those places is short.
Other big agriculture states like California & Florida can grow food all year long.

So how much wheat and soybeans is CA and FL growing year round?
Basically CA is growing luxury items, not staple foods.


Interesting, I've never thought of it that way.

A lot of soybean production is moving to Brazil (can't beat that cheap land from denuding the Amazon basin!) and at least here in NC, a number of former soybean fields are now planted in corn - but not for food- or feed-stock. It's for the ethanol subsidy.
 
2013-07-12 10:14:32 AM  

bopis: Tad_Waxpole: bopis: "California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.

Yes, but to be fair the growing season in those places is short.
Other big agriculture states like California & Florida can grow food all year long.

So how much wheat and soybeans is CA and FL growing year round?
Basically CA is growing luxury items, not staple foods.


Whatever would we do without artichokes?
 
2013-07-12 10:37:37 AM  

bopis: Tad_Waxpole: bopis: "California grows all our fruits and vegetables"
OH NOES what would we do without artichokes and walnuts!!!
I think we'd be in more trouble if we lost access to all the potatoes in Idaho, or the corn or wheat from the midwest.

Yes, but to be fair the growing season in those places is short.
Other big agriculture states like California & Florida can grow food all year long.

So how much wheat and soybeans is CA and FL growing year round?
Basically CA is growing luxury items, not staple foods.


I wouldn't say that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on Fark, but....


California;
Dairy production, #1 in the nation, Fruit/vegetable production, #1 in the nation, Beef production, top 5, Turkey production, top 10, egg production, top 5, pork production, top 10.....maybe you consider those items "luxury".  I prefer a diet a little more varied than bread and soymilk..
 
2013-07-12 10:44:50 AM  

leonel: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.



Don't you live in Decatur, GA?
 
2013-07-12 10:45:30 AM  

chevydeuce: So how much wheat and soybeans is CA and FL growing year round?
Basically CA is growing luxury items, not staple foods.

I wouldn't say that's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on Fark, but....


California;
Dairy production, #1 in the nation, Fruit/vegetable production, #1 in the nation, Beef production, top 5, Turkey production, top 10, egg production, top 5, pork production, top 10.....maybe you consider those items "luxury".  I prefer a diet a little more varied than bread and soymilk..


Was just about to post almost the exact same thing. The midwest may be the "breadbasket" but California is totally the Fruit Bowl and the Veggie Plate. A sizable portion of the meat platter and booze(wine, beer) production too.

Brazilian produce? It always sounds like a good idea to import produce from some 4th wold jungle nation, until you start getting outbreaks of invasive ball crunching spider-ants.
 
2013-07-12 10:46:20 AM  

WGJ: Let's see... Cheap fruits and vegetables or Lohan, Beiber, Hilton and the rest.

Let it slide into the ocean.


Logan and Hilton came from NY while Bieber comes from Canada. Those of you complaining about California transplants are experiencing what Californians have put up with for a long time. People move. I lile my home with its cool summers and warm winters that is just short walk to the beach, and my backyard with avocados, oranges, and apples.
 
2013-07-12 10:46:57 AM  

FizixJunkee: leonel: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

No this is a thread where every neighbor of California makes fun of California. I personally like to make fun of Californians for saying California is the greatest state in the world yet will still invade the Pacific Northwest with their sickness.


Don't you live in Decatur, GA?


Whoops.  Responded to the wrong poster.

bite-prod.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-07-12 10:48:02 AM  
neongoats:

...ball crunching spider-ants.

Now THAT is a great band name.
 
2013-07-12 10:49:15 AM  

Solstice: neongoats:

...ball crunching spider-ants.

Now THAT is a great band name.


It's the spiritual sequel to the sharknado and the mansquito.
 
2013-07-12 10:50:20 AM  

neongoats: Solstice: neongoats:

...ball crunching spider-ants.

Now THAT is a great band name.

It's the spiritual sequel to the sharknado and the mansquito.


Heh. We've already got those bastard Tiger mosquitoes from imports, so don't give 'em any ideas.
 
2013-07-12 10:51:40 AM  
OldManDownDRoad:
The Californians are invading NC as well, where they argue with the invading Yankees about how much better things were back home. We got so tired of this we dis-elected a bunch of corrupt members of the Coke party and elected a supermajority of idiot members of the Pepsi party in homes of driving some of them out.

We just moved from Los Angeles to Atlanta.  While in line at the DMV to get Georgia licenses, we met three other California transplants.  I guess we're taking over Georgia, too.

\I can now go back to driving like a maniac
\\didn't feel comfortable doing that in Georgia with California plates on my car
\\\[insert third comment]
 
2013-07-12 11:18:46 AM  

Lyonid: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

Better?  Nah, too subjective.  But it's possible they might want to avoid the state with the highest poverty rate* in the nation.

But if you personally can afford it, kudos.  It's quite nice out there for the reasonably well off.  You could probably live like a king elsewhere, but I guess then you'd be forced to consort with 'those people'


* Supplemental Poverty Measure (a.k.a. the U.S. Census Bureau measure that takes into account cost of living)

/one of 'those people'.


I don't understand what you are saying.  I checked out your link...CA is #35, not number one.

/maybe my coffee hasn't kicked in yet??
 
2013-07-12 11:22:22 AM  

manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!


Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?
 
2013-07-12 11:34:19 AM  

raerae1980: Lyonid: manbart: Is this the thread where residents of fly over states make fun of California? But totally not because they are jealous or anything, I mean, it is so much better to live in Bumfark, Idaho than than the San Francisco Bay area, amiright??

HollyWEIRD!!

Better?  Nah, too subjective.  But it's possible they might want to avoid the state with the highest poverty rate* in the nation.

But if you personally can afford it, kudos.  It's quite nice out there for the reasonably well off.  You could probably live like a king elsewhere, but I guess then you'd be forced to consort with 'those people'


* Supplemental Poverty Measure (a.k.a. the U.S. Census Bureau measure that takes into account cost of living)

/one of 'those people'.

I don't understand what you are saying.  I checked out your link...CA is #35, not number one.

/maybe my coffee hasn't kicked in yet??


California is indeed #35 in the Poverty Rate most often quoted as the official stat.  Note however the the last column on that chart, labeled Supplemental Poverty Measure [and defined as taking "into account differences in cost of living between states (i.e. housing costs appreciably higher/lower than the national average) "].  If you sort by that one, you find Washington D.C. in first place, with California right behind.

I would argue that this stat gives a clearer picture of the actual economic pressure people are under.  To be fair, not everyone would agree with me, but I just can't see leaving out one of the largest household expenses from a discussion on poverty levels.
 
2013-07-12 11:34:31 AM  
So we would lose California and all of its inhabitants, and as a result, the rest of the nation would have some population reduction due to loss of food.

I'm having trouble seeing the down side to this.
 
2013-07-12 11:49:00 AM  
And we'd drink mini-soda.
 
2013-07-12 12:07:04 PM  
California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.
 
2013-07-12 12:27:49 PM  

Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.


Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?
 
2013-07-12 12:37:08 PM  

Mock26: Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.

Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?


What's NOT great about it?  We have all the best biomes.  I could hang out at the beach in the morning and go skiing in the afternoon.  Or go hiking in the beautiful redwood forests.
Practically all media is born in California.
Silicon Valley is the core of the internet.
We're right up against Mexico, so we have easy access to illegal labor and super delicious Mexican food.
We're up against the  good ocean.

Look, I could do this all day.  We're awesome.  We know we're awesome. You know we're awesome.  Let's go get burritos.
 
2013-07-12 12:46:07 PM  

Honest Bender: Mock26: Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.

Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?

What's NOT great about it?  We have all the best biomes.  I could hang out at the beach in the morning and go skiing in the afternoon.  Or go hiking in the beautiful redwood forests.
Practically all media is born in California.
Silicon Valley is the core of the internet.
We're right up against Mexico, so we have easy access to illegal labor and super delicious Mexican food.
We're up against the  good ocean.

Look, I could do this all day.  We're awesome.  We know we're awesome. You know we're awesome.  Let's go get burritos.


No matter what response is given, people like Mock26 are going to shiat on it....
 
2013-07-12 12:54:57 PM  

Honest Bender: Mock26: Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.

Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?

What's NOT great about it?  We have all the best biomes.  I could hang out at the beach in the morning and go skiing in the afternoon.  Or go hiking in the beautiful redwood forests.
Practically all media is born in California.
Silicon Valley is the core of the internet.
We're right up against Mexico, so we have easy access to illegal labor and super delicious Mexican food.
We're up against the  good ocean.

Look, I could do this all day.  We're awesome.  We know we're awesome. You know we're awesome.  Let's go get burritos.


California helped to fuel the political correctness movement .  The state can rot in hell for that.
 
2013-07-12 01:03:09 PM  
mock26:   Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.

Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?


I'll field this with 3 reasons (there are more):

1) The best weather in the country. Period.  It's really moderate for both LA, SF and other cities on the California coast.  It's not too common to get too cold or too hot.  And it's not overly humid like in Florida - our evil cousin (nor do we have the mass of mosquitos like FLA).  The only thing missing is snow.  But you can drive or do a short flight to get to that.

2) Good food. Better and more affordable than that pretender capital, NYC.  NYC is all hype and you pay at the register.  Angelenos come back from a trip to NYC and its 2 reactions: "well the food was good, but we really paid a lot".  OR the other reaction was "it was only okay. But the bagels and pizza were good."  We have fresher ingredients and just better Mexican and Asian food.  Hell, our regular American food is better as in burgers (InnOut) and donuts (an LA thing).

3) trends in media, fashion and technology.  If it aint NYC, it's coming from us.  This isn't superficial either... businesses come out of that.  But no big deal for the rest of you - you guys get those trends 5 years later.

Sure, it's not perfect.  Bad politics (really stupid politicians who apparently hate business).  Dumb gun laws.  Too many people.  Expensive to live here.  And the driving here in LA is gettingworse and worse.
 
2013-07-12 01:04:04 PM  

Honest Bender: Mock26: Honest Bender: California REPRESENT!
Ya, California is better than your state. Deal with it.

Care to enlighten us as to why California is such a great state?

What's NOT great about it?  We have all the best biomes.  I could hang out at the beach in the morning and go skiing in the afternoon.  Or go hiking in the beautiful redwood forests.
Practically all media is born in California.
Silicon Valley is the core of the internet.
We're right up against Mexico, so we have easy access to illegal labor and super delicious Mexican food.
We're up against the  good ocean.

Look, I could do this all day.  We're awesome.  We know we're awesome. You know we're awesome.  Let's go get burritos.


Don't forget California girls:

friendsoftheprogram.net
 
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