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(DNA Info)   When you're dining out, do you roll your eyes when a couple brings a stroller up to their table? What about when they bring an entire crib?   (dnainfo.com) divider line 85
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2013-07-12 11:09:14 AM  

Danger Mouse: cards fan by association: Our 6 month old has never had a tantrum when we go out to eat every weekend. He either sleeps, eats or sits quietly and entertains himself with toys. Now that may be a different story in another 6 months but right now, he's not a burden to anyone... Not even his parents.

Those poeple who are telling you "it's not a problem!" are lying to you.  I wont lie you.  No one wants your kid near them when they are dining.  Even if they are quiet, they tend to smell like poop.  Honestly.  infants and young children no matter how well behaved do not belong in resturants.  This applies to you.

No, really it does.

You're not special and neither is your kid.


I don't know sometimes having a kid at the table or booth next to you can be fun, especially if they respond to someone making funny faces at them.  This is a great time waster if you are dining by yourself or with folks who are on a boring subject.
 
2013-07-12 11:10:20 AM  
Apparently the kid knocks out laptop chords, according the caption on one of the pics in the article.  Man, I thought those went out of style with the advent of SoundBlaster boards.
 
2013-07-12 11:13:46 AM  

kobrakai: God Is My Co-Pirate: Babies aren't the problem. Babies sleep. Toddlers are the problem.

I'll go one step further (as a single father to an almost 6 y.o.) and say the parents are the problem. Don't let your damn kids think they're the center of the universe for fark's sake. You WILL regret it.


That's part of what rubs me the wrong way about the "keeping your kid happy" comment.  Again, as someone who is about to have her first and has no experience, my goal isn't to have a happy kid. My goal is to raise a physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy adult. This means that I'm sometimes going to have an unhappy kid, and I'm okay with that.

(This doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore a fussy kid in public. It means I'm hoping to minimize the chances of a meltdown when it will affect the people around me, and if it does happen...well, I'll take it as it comes. I won't expect people around me to be endlessly accommodating, though.)
 
2013-07-12 11:21:05 AM  

Forty-Two: kobrakai: God Is My Co-Pirate: Babies aren't the problem. Babies sleep. Toddlers are the problem.

I'll go one step further (as a single father to an almost 6 y.o.) and say the parents are the problem. Don't let your damn kids think they're the center of the universe for fark's sake. You WILL regret it.

That's part of what rubs me the wrong way about the "keeping your kid happy" comment.  Again, as someone who is about to have her first and has no experience, my goal isn't to have a happy kid. My goal is to raise a physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy adult. This means that I'm sometimes going to have an unhappy kid, and I'm okay with that.

(This doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore a fussy kid in public. It means I'm hoping to minimize the chances of a meltdown when it will affect the people around me, and if it does happen...well, I'll take it as it comes. I won't expect people around me to be endlessly accommodating, though.)


just remember no matter how hard you try sometimes you lose.  you might never plan to take your get out when he/she is tired but it happens, you might not want to pacify your child with a treat when they are behaving badly but some days you are just too tired to fight the little brat (at the moment).

But if you do your job right and haven't for some odd reason given birth to a bad seed, well then your child will be okay most of the time and you as parent will survive.

the #1 item to have once your child hits the toddler stage is to always have them in Osh Kosh overalls so when they are being a brat you can just picked them up by the back of those things and carry outside or back to the car.
 
2013-07-12 11:26:01 AM  
Always a fun time when people get annoyed by something that's allowed. Like when people get pissed at smokers smoking in a place that allows smoking. Smokers smoke. Babies cry. Toddlers act out.

It's like going to an orgy and being offended by all the sex.

Love it.
 
2013-07-12 11:29:52 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Babies aren't the problem.  Babies sleep.  Toddlers are the problem.

Still, I take mine out to restaurants because it's good for them to learn manners, to learn that they're not the centre of the universe, and to learn to eat more things than just chicken nuggets.


I think you have this backwards.

First you teach them manners, that they aren't the centre of the universe, and to eat things other than chicken nuggets.

Then you take them out on the practical trials (i.e. to restaurants).
 
2013-07-12 11:33:31 AM  

ArmanTanzarian: Always a fun time when people get annoyed by something that's allowed. Like when people get pissed at smokers smoking in a place that allows smoking. Smokers smoke. Babies cry. Toddlers act out.

It's like going to an orgy and being offended by all the sex.

Love it.


Yet those same folks are the ones that get angry when told they can't bring their filthy dog in a store or restaurant
 
2013-07-12 11:40:25 AM  
People who try to bring dogs in restaurants are vermin.  Trained service dogs excepted.
 
2013-07-12 11:41:59 AM  

paswa17: [mimg.ugo.com image 288x216]
How much for the little girl?


/satisfied
 
2013-07-12 11:45:21 AM  
We bring Cheerios if we take the toddler out to a restaurant, but we also take special care to clean up after any mess we make. Waiters have always been very kind and appreciative to us, usually by sneaking us extra desserts and being available right away if we need any refills.

Take care of your kids and don't let them act like animals. Taking your kids out with you doesn't give you the right to treat any other place as you would your home.
 
2013-07-12 12:09:55 PM  
I don't mind kids at a restaurant, even if they fuss a little, as long as the parents keep them under a reasonable amount of control. If they're running around unsupervised or go into full on melt down and the parents just throw up their hands, that's when I get pissed.

/Nothing against breast feeding in public either. Everyone's got to eat.
//But go to the goddamn restroom to change a daiper. That's an issue of sanitation.
 
2013-07-12 12:22:02 PM  
Nearest restaurant is 42 miles thataway.

/don't care
 
2013-07-12 12:25:23 PM  

SlothB77: even better, this happened in hipster capital of the world, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, NY. This isn't very hipster. I bet the hipsters lost their minds when they saw this.


I have bad news for you, but the hipsters have reached reproductive age.
 
2013-07-12 12:31:19 PM  
I'm a dad to be in November. I refuse to take my whining baby to a restaurant  and spoil everyone else meal.
 
2013-07-12 12:32:30 PM  

thatboyoverthere: With Autistic kids that the worst thing you can do.


Really?  I thought the thing that made autistic kids act out was usually over-stimulation.

CSB: My wife is a restaurant manager, and had to help deal with an autistic kid having a meltdown in her place just a couple of days ago.  After a quick panicky discussion with the parent, she deduced that the music was too loud and it was freaking the kid out.  She turned it off for a few minutes, and he calmed right down.
 
2013-07-12 12:36:56 PM  
If and only if their table manners are absolutely ingrained should children be permitted in restaurants where the glasses are made of glass.  Going out to eat is a treat for grown-ups -- parents should relish that fact and hire a sitter, and their kids should recognize how special it is if they should ever be so lucky to be permitted to join in.  To bring unruly, misbehaving, or mess-making children out to eat is rude, crude, and socially unacceptable -- and management shouldn't allow it.

There are places for that sort of thing: Golden Corral, McDonald's, Denny's, etc.
 
2013-07-12 12:38:55 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Forty-Two: kobrakai: God Is My Co-Pirate: Babies aren't the problem. Babies sleep. Toddlers are the problem.

I'll go one step further (as a single father to an almost 6 y.o.) and say the parents are the problem. Don't let your damn kids think they're the center of the universe for fark's sake. You WILL regret it.

That's part of what rubs me the wrong way about the "keeping your kid happy" comment.  Again, as someone who is about to have her first and has no experience, my goal isn't to have a happy kid. My goal is to raise a physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy adult. This means that I'm sometimes going to have an unhappy kid, and I'm okay with that.

(This doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore a fussy kid in public. It means I'm hoping to minimize the chances of a meltdown when it will affect the people around me, and if it does happen...well, I'll take it as it comes. I won't expect people around me to be endlessly accommodating, though.)

just remember no matter how hard you try sometimes you lose.  you might never plan to take your get out when he/she is tired but it happens, you might not want to pacify your child with a treat when they are behaving badly but some days you are just too tired to fight the little brat (at the moment).

But if you do your job right and haven't for some odd reason given birth to a bad seed, well then your child will be okay most of the time and you as parent will survive.

the #1 item to have once your child hits the toddler stage is to always have them in Osh Kosh overalls so when they are being a brat you can just picked them up by the back of those things and carry outside or back to the car.


You know, between the ages of 2 and 4 I probably covered more miles being carried just like that by my father than I did on my own two feet.
 
2013-07-12 12:40:58 PM  

poorjon: I don't mind kids at a restaurant, even if they fuss a little, as long as the parents keep them under a reasonable amount of control. If they're running around unsupervised or go into full on melt down and the parents just throw up their hands, that's when I get pissed.


Yeah, some people learn that just letting an infant cry itself out, or just ignoring a toddler that's acting out works at home, and then assume it's an acceptable solution everywhere.

There's a cute little hipster family that comes into my wife's place and sits at the bar (the dad always has the little baby girl in a front-facing backpack-thing) and they never have any problems.  The bartenders all love the little girl because she's so cute, and watching them make drinks keeps her occupied while the parents eat.  I hope when I have a kid, it's as well-behaved.
 
2013-07-12 12:47:34 PM  

Waldo Pepper: always have them in Osh Kosh overalls so when they are being a brat you can just picked them up by the back of those things and carry outside or back to the car


Those things are the bomb. It's like a handle for your kid.
 
2013-07-12 01:10:12 PM  

mentallo69: I'm a dad to be in November. I refuse to take my whining baby to a restaurant  and spoil everyone else meal.


That's where you're view point is wrong. You have no experience in the matter. You'll change your mind soon enough.

I've been into innumerable restaurants where the noise from drinking/joking/laughing/jeering patrons is way to loud to even hear a toddler scream. That said, if your kid is crying or throwing a tantrum, take them to the restroom and lay down the law. It has worked with both of my kids and they do well even in quiet restaurants.
 
2013-07-12 01:15:52 PM  
Note to self: never live in Williamsburg.
 
2013-07-12 01:18:45 PM  
I don't understand why this is so difficult. There are a ton of family-oriented restaurants and a ton of adult-only restaurants.  Pick your poison, and quick sweating the small stuff.

Now for those who can't figure out which is which, the beatings should commence immediately.
 
2013-07-12 01:29:59 PM  

Talos: I don't understand why this is so difficult. There are a ton of family-oriented restaurants and a ton of adult-only restaurants.  Pick your poison, and quick sweating the small stuff.

Now for those who can't figure out which is which, the beatings should commence immediately.


That is not necessarily true depending on where you live.
 
2013-07-12 01:36:13 PM  
Well, it was pretty annoying smelling dirty diapers at bar trivia last night.
 
2013-07-12 01:44:51 PM  
All I can do is shake my head and ask, "What happened to Brooklyn?"

/ Born and raised
// Haven't been back in 20 years
/// Remember when it was all mob restaurants, burned-out brownstones, and Key Foods. You were afraid to walk to the corner bar for a pack of Luckies, and we liked it that way.  Now it sounds like some kind of hipster retirement village.
 
2013-07-12 02:10:27 PM  

reaperducer: All I can do is shake my head and ask, "What happened to Brooklyn?"


Well, if you had bought one of those brownstones back in the day, you'd be shaking your head all the way to the bank.
 
2013-07-12 02:49:33 PM  
If you can't afford a sitter... my dog would be happy to sit in your house and guard your kids.

/will also cover them with slobber free of charge
 
2013-07-12 03:45:33 PM  

Mr. Breeze: mentallo69: I'm a dad to be in November. I refuse to take my whining baby to a restaurant  and spoil everyone else meal.

That's where you're view point is wrong. You have no experience in the matter. You'll change your mind soon enough.

I've been into innumerable restaurants where the noise from drinking/joking/laughing/jeering patrons is way to loud to even hear a toddler scream. That said, if your kid is crying or throwing a tantrum, take them to the restroom and lay down the law. It has worked with both of my kids and they do well even in quiet restaurants.


Man, if I had a dollar for every time I've told my kids something along the lines of "Just because those adults are acting like jerks doesn't mean you get to misbehave", I could buy myself dinner someplace without a kid's menu.

Forty-Two: kobrakai: God Is My Co-Pirate: Babies aren't the problem. Babies sleep. Toddlers are the problem.

I'll go one step further (as a single father to an almost 6 y.o.) and say the parents are the problem. Don't let your damn kids think they're the center of the universe for fark's sake. You WILL regret it.

That's part of what rubs me the wrong way about the "keeping your kid happy" comment.  Again, as someone who is about to have her first and has no experience, my goal isn't to have a happy kid. My goal is to raise a physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy adult. This means that I'm sometimes going to have an unhappy kid, and I'm okay with that.

(This doesn't mean that I'm going to ignore a fussy kid in public. It means I'm hoping to minimize the chances of a meltdown when it will affect the people around me, and if it does happen...well, I'll take it as it comes. I won't expect people around me to be endlessly accommodating, though.)


You want to keep your kid happy in public so you can keep your kid quiet in public.  If you breastfeed, it's really freaking simple. Your boob is magic.  Very few kids will cry instead of suck on a boob.
 
2013-07-12 04:09:26 PM  
yea i think the only things that sucks more than children, are parents.
Condoms prevent more than unwanted children, they prevent normal good people from turning into parents.

Please help control the parent population and have your self spayed or neutered.
 
2013-07-12 05:00:59 PM  
Last week my husband and I were celebrating our wedding anniversary at an upscale restaurant (it was around $300 for the two of us and it's a dress up place).  We go there every year for our anniversary because it's quiet and the food is amazing.  In the middle of our meal a woman comes in with a baby (somewhere between 1-2 years old).  The restaurant sat her next to us...  The place was not busy at all and for some reason in this almost empty restaurant they decided they should sit the woman with her baby next to the couple celebrating their anniversary (and yes they knew we were celebrating).

The first thing she does is ask them to heat up the food she brought for her baby which I guess isn't too weird but I've never seen that before and then she proceeded to set up an iPad with a video for the baby to watch.  So now we have Sponge Bob going on and a kid who keeps screeching and clapping at the video while she chats on her cell phone.  On the bright side the kid didn't cry, but otherwise I thought this was incredibly inappropriate.  I mean the kid was "occupied" and whatnot, but she was still super loud and kept squirming around so the mom would have to pick her up and hold her in her lap.  However, the kid would crawl out of her mom's arms and the mom was too busy on the phone, but when she'd realize she'd pick her up again and then place her back in her booster seat and then two minutes later the kid would be back in her lap because it couldn't sit still.  It was very distracting and obnoxious.

I was more annoyed with the restaurant seating her there to be honest.
 
2013-07-12 06:17:24 PM  
If I'm eating at a diner, chain or similar restaurant then I don't mind kids.

But god help you if you bring your screaming child into any white table cloth type of place. Teach the kid manners at farking Friday's and let me enjoy my meal in peace.
 
2013-07-12 11:07:00 PM  
My oldest has Down's. We plan and prepare as much as possible, but sometimes a meltdown will happen. When it does, one of us will take her outside while the other pays and gets the remaining food to go. I figure, it was our decision to have kids, which means it should be our sacrifice of a meal if she has a meltdown, not the sacrifice of anyone else out for a nice time.
 
2013-07-13 12:52:03 AM  
I was flying back home from AKon and there was a baby on the plane so well behaved I actually complimented the mom as we got off. They were in the window seat ahead of me and it was the happiest baby I'd ever seen. It just plastered itself to the window and made happy baby noises quietly the whole flight.

That said, it's real simple. If I'm spending more than 25 bucks on myself to eat (without dessert), I don't want to deal with kids under five. If I'm spending upwards of forty, I don't want to deal with kids under ten.

/childless, sterile
//basically I'm a Disney villain in the making
 
2013-07-13 08:17:35 AM  

Ringshadow: I was flying back home from AKon and there was a baby on the plane so well behaved I actually complimented the mom as we got off. They were in the window seat ahead of me and it was the happiest baby I'd ever seen. It just plastered itself to the window and made happy baby noises quietly the whole flight.

That said, it's real simple. If I'm spending more than 25 bucks on myself to eat (without dessert), I don't want to deal with kids under five. If I'm spending upwards of forty, I don't want to deal with kids under ten.

/childless, sterile
//basically I'm a Disney villain in the making


I trust when you go out to eat you request a table not near any kids.  Might a inquire if on the flight with the baby did the happy baby make you smile at least once?

I like kids and babies (they are different creatures) and I don't mind being at a table near them.  If a baby is having a bad day it impossible to blame the parents for the behavior as it is near impossible to know how an infant will behave from one moment to the next.  So when this happens I do feel for the parents.

grossly misbehaving toddlers and older kids are more of a result of lazy parents. but when kids are just being kids and the parents appear to be doing their best, heck life goes on.

I would much rather sit at a table near kids then at a table next to some fool jabbering on his/her cell phone or a group of folks talking way too loud for a restaurant.  (unless it's just that type of place).
 
2013-07-13 09:44:56 AM  

reaperducer: All I can do is shake my head and ask, "What happened to Brooklyn?"

/ Born and raised
// Haven't been back in 20 years
/// Remember when it was all mob restaurants, burned-out brownstones, and Key Foods. You were afraid to walk to the corner bar for a pack of Luckies, and we liked it that way.  Now it sounds like some kind of hipster retirement village.


So, you're pining for a time when Brooklyn was a s**thole? I can't tell if your being serious or not.
 
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