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2013-07-12 05:16:13 AM
10 votes:
Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.
2013-07-12 05:52:19 AM
6 votes:

CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.


It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.
2013-07-12 07:55:11 AM
4 votes:

bathbubble: steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.


I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....


That the music SUCKS.
2013-07-12 07:32:33 AM
4 votes:
I was not angry at my place in this until I was compared to Prince Charles.
2013-07-12 07:03:13 AM
4 votes:

Doc Daneeka: I'm confused.

I was born in 1981 and am currently 32.

Sometimes I see people my age described as Gen X and sometimes as Millennials.  I know that these things don't have hard-and-fast boundaries, but I never know which generation I supposedly belong to.


Are you hardworking and industrious or are you whiny and lazy?
2013-07-12 12:49:59 AM
3 votes:
loveisover.me
2013-07-12 07:35:01 AM
2 votes:

bathbubble: steerforth: bathbubble: steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.


I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....

Don't worry, dear. Lindsay Lohan may pop her clogs any moment and then you too can feel as misunderstood as the rest of us.

Will Amy Winehouse or Heath Ledger do?


Oh no, dear. Heath was an Xer and Amy was close enough. I think you're going to have to go down the dead Bieber track to come anywhere near the impact of Dumbledore.
2013-07-12 07:12:26 AM
2 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So maybe I should ditch the flannel, Doc Martens, and stop plastering my cubicle with pictures of Winona Ryder circa 1992?


Eh. Whatever.
2013-07-12 07:03:32 AM
2 votes:

largedon: Actually most X'ers I know hardly watch TV at all.


Television is a quintessential Boomer thing. They grew up with television, they evolved with it, they watched it advance and grow from the first grainy black & white shows in the 40s on three channels to today's HD broadcasts on several hundred. Boomers are inextricably linked with the social dominance of television -- they are the first generation to literally watch the whole world pass them by, from the Kennedy assassination to the moonlanding, Watergate, the Berlin Wall, the Gulf War and 9/11. They also remember with equal amounts of fondness Ricky Ricardo, Ginger vs Mary Ann, Kirk & Spock, Carol Burnett's tarzan yell, the last episode of MASH and who shot JR. Their parents had radio and their children have the internet, but television is theirs. They were born in the age of television and they will die in front of the television, slumped in their sofas, their remotes still in their hands.

/for Xers, it is video games.
2013-07-12 03:46:07 PM
1 votes:

smackdab: Basically the Boomers have gone to the party, banged all the women, drank all the booze, and smoked all the weed.  We Gen-X'rs are now at the party with used condoms to pick up, bottles and cans to throw away, with not even a roach left in an ashtray to enjoy.  I have seen boomers with union jobs vote to screw everyone after them with pay and benefits, all for a $2500 check from management.  The boomers have allowed corporations to turn the pension they receive into a 401K with some contribution and now the classic 401K with no contribition which is now the new normal.  They came home to mom's apple pie, we came home to no mom or dad until dinner.  My father the boomer went to work at 18.  I went to work at 13.  My millenial son went to work at 17.  I have been working my ass off almost my whole life.  My father has a high school education and is currently on a criuse to Italy and Spain. He retired at 62 because he worked for a European company that actually treats a person like a human being.  On the other hand I will work until I die because I work for a large American company that has cut benefits with no regret.  I also blame boomers for making up the bulk of the conservative tea bagger population that has stalled the progress of the country by their selfishness and disregard for anyone who disagrees with their dated and blatantly racist rhetoric.  They are afraid Obama's gonna take their shiat away from them.  He should.  They have done a poor job of leaving us the way their parents left them.  They have pisssed it away on themselves and I will not shed a tear as they begin to die off.


And to think some people have the nerve to say that Gen-X'rs are whiny and petulant.
2013-07-12 01:39:04 PM
1 votes:

furiousidiot: Someone needs to start killing off Baby Boomers.


What the hell do you think Obama created the Death Panels for?
2013-07-12 10:57:40 AM
1 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: meanmutton: Cubansaltyballs: In my experience, a lot of Baby Boomers have jobs they should not have and only have them because some other Boomer promoted them. When they see a Gen Xer, they become afraid that some 35 year-old will show the world how incompetent they are.

It's protectionism. The faster this generation dies, the better off we'll all be.

Speaking as a 35-year-old -- don't pretend that we're any less incompetent.

Also, when they were 35, it's not like they weren't in the same positions you are in right now.

When the Boomers were 35, they had little to no student debt, and had likely spent over a decade working for the same company that paid enough so that one breadwinner could raise a nice middle class family out in the suburbs. The generation before them handed them everything, but it was the Boomers who pulled up the ladder behind them.


Hey, I had student debt. I took out a loan to go skiing at Sun Valley for a week.
2013-07-12 10:43:28 AM
1 votes:

THE GREAT NAME: Bollocks to the BBC and their "this content is not for domestic viewing" crap. Enjoy my license fee payments you assholes.


You're a boot-strappy conservative. Why don't you move somewhere better?
2013-07-12 10:29:02 AM
1 votes:

Darke: steerforth: Darke: Phinn: snowshovel: Anyway....I'd probably give the millenials the internet (which I can argue that Generation X may get)...but the millenials more importantly get: always on social connections.

Late Boomers built personal computers and the web software itself, Gen-X built the post-web Internet and blogging, but the Millenials have built the latest round of social media and a lot of apps.

What's the deal with the Gen-Y/Millenial constant social media thing, anyway?  Before the web, Gen-Xers (like me) were the kind of people to keep a Post Office box instead of getting mail at home.  (It helps keep Sallie Mae off our backs.)  The last thing we'd do is put our entire lives online.

I just want to say that Gen Y is NOT the same as Millenials.  Unlike the younguns, I CAN hold a face-to-face conversation, ignore facebook, and hold a steady job.

/apparently I'm invisible to whomever writes these stupid articles.

Yes they are. Some retard working in advertising just decided to change the name.

>.< goddammitsomuch.  I should probably actually wiki it before i type.  I stand corrected.

/doesn't mean I have to like it.  I might be technically a millennial (85), but I have nothing in common with them.


No one on the planet wants to be characterised by their supposed "generation", and fair enough. It is useful for demographers, as Ishkur has eloquently pointed out, but apart from that it means fark all except as an excuse to biatch about others and as a tool for marketers.

Then again, I rang my mother the other day to say happy 64th birthday, and she not only joked about the Beatles song but told me she and her partner had been over to see a similarly aged couple that afternoon, and were subsequently joined by another couple. Apparently they all sat around discussing whether an Australian, British, New Zealand or Canadian pension was more lucrative and which to apply for, all the while smoking doobies, the raw ingredients of which one couple currently propagates, tends and sells to such an extent that they don't even need a pension, even though they are entitled to one.  That is so boomer it's farking BOOMER.
2013-07-12 09:59:31 AM
1 votes:

Girion47: My dad was a marine Vietnam vet with severe PTSD and 2 purple hearts.

Please tell me how he wasn't a taskmaster and my "buddy"


You: "You give me what I want, or I'll make the chopper noises again, dad!"
Dad: "No... no!!! Anything but that... of course you can have what you want... we're still buddies, right?"
2013-07-12 09:58:56 AM
1 votes:

Deep Contact: I forgot, who are we talking about again?


Soundgarden.
2013-07-12 09:34:58 AM
1 votes:
As a true Gen X'er, here's my response:  F*ck you.  I don't care.
2013-07-12 09:04:54 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-07-12 08:52:33 AM
1 votes:

CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.


The flax seeds in my breakfast smoothie have now infiltrated the crevices of my nasal cavities.
2013-07-12 08:43:46 AM
1 votes:
fireclown:

Untrue.  There are plenty of straight women in Maine.

And unlike the rest of the country, the straight women here are allowed/required to drive Subaru's.
2013-07-12 08:40:42 AM
1 votes:

ltr77: Alonjar:

/because nobody else wears flannel

Never been to Maine, huh?  If you ain't wearing flannel and driving a Subaru you ain't doing it right.


Untrue.  There are plenty of straight women in Maine.
2013-07-12 08:27:03 AM
1 votes:

mbillips: Generational groupings are the stupidest possible way to categorize people. I was born in '62; what do I have in common with someone born in '45 (other than remembering cars without seatbelts)? Gen X is supposedly '65 to '79? So if you were 21 in 2000, you were a peer of someone who was 35? No.


According to a lot of people in this thread their problems won't be solved unless you kill yourself.
2013-07-12 08:07:57 AM
1 votes:

mike_d85: I'm literally warring doc martins and flannel right now. Hate is dripping onto my desk.


wait... you're a lumberjack?

/because nobody else wears flannel
2013-07-12 08:05:02 AM
1 votes:

Silverstaff: Yeah, my parents were both born in the early '50's, and are quintessential boomers. Right down to my grandfather being a WWII veteran who came home from the war to start a family and my father having this bizarre kismet of getting a high five-figure job despite having no college education, and my mother sincerely telling me when I went off to college in '96 that right after graduation I could get an "office job" by just having "any college degree" and walking into the office of "any firm downtown" and telling me student loan debt didn't matter because I would be able to pay it all off in just a few years after graduation because I'll be a college graduate.



I don't mean to laugh, but this made me laugh.

I see your name in lights, kid!  You'll be heading up the department in no time!

Say, you know what I'd do if I were your age?  I want to say one word to you. Just one word.  Are you listening?Plastics.  There's a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?
2013-07-12 08:02:34 AM
1 votes:

bathbubble: steerforth: bathbubble: steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.


I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....

Don't worry, dear. Lindsay Lohan may pop her clogs any moment and then you too can feel as misunderstood as the rest of us.

Will Amy Winehouse or Heath Ledger do?


I'd argue the thousands of 9/11 victims for ours.
2013-07-12 07:58:32 AM
1 votes:

ordinarysteve: I work at a factory and the problem isn't boomers, lots of them are great workers, the problem is the ones who could retire but can't because they buried themselves in debt. As a result they stay into their 70s but no longer give two shiats about their jobs. Nothing is more annoying than fixing mistakes for someone who makes more than you and who confuses seniority with superiority.


That's why I just laugh when the unemployment numbers come out every month and handwringing goes on about "OMGZ, millions of people are leaving the workforce and have given up!!"   Good.   Most of them are Boomers who should be retiring anyway to clear out room the top for the next generation.    Most of them     keep working only because they've got to pay for an unsustainable level of consumption (and boy, Babyboomers love them some consumption.   The generation that brought us  an obesity epidemic, McMansion Housing Developments and 13 mph SUVs.   The only generation who when faced with an attack on American soil said "Fark it.  Let's cut taxes across the board, head to the malls and buy some shiat.  That's how we deal with crisis.   God Bless America).     In the end the goal in life shouldn't be to work until the day you drop dead, and maybe being forced into retirement will cause you to re-evaluate whether you really need 3 automobiles and a $175 a month cable/satellite bill.
2013-07-12 07:57:50 AM
1 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So maybe I should ditch the flannel, Doc Martens, and stop plastering my cubicle with pictures of Winona Ryder circa 1992?


I'm literally warring doc martins and flannel right now. Hate is dripping onto my desk.
2013-07-12 07:53:14 AM
1 votes:
Oh boy!
 This is the thread where every Gen Xer who dares to complain about getting handed a ration of shiat will be upbraided one one side as not bootstrappy enough by the FYIGM boomers still fellating Reagan's corpse, while hearing the dulcet cries of I EXPECT RESPECT!!! from the millennials on the others.
Fun times, fun times!
2013-07-12 07:53:11 AM
1 votes:

Jensaarai: [i.imgur.com image 225x338]

/Any day now



*checks Amazon*

The cover copy for book X Saves the World by Jeff Gordinier says this: "In this simultaneously hilarious and incisive manifesto for a generation that's never had much use for manifestos, ..."

Hey, wait, I'm a Gen-Xer, and I love a good manifesto!
2013-07-12 07:44:33 AM
1 votes:

Cubansaltyballs: TommyymmoT: Cubansaltyballs: In my experience, a lot of Baby Boomers have jobs they should not have and only have them because some other Boomer promoted them. When they see a Gen Xer, they become afraid that some 35 year-old will show the world how incompetent they are.

It's protectionism. The faster this generation dies, the better off we'll all be.

Bide your time, and position yourself.
It's temporary,
They'll be dead, or retired pretty damned soon.

F*ck em. I'm starting my own company.


You want me to come run it for you? I'm a very competent Boomer. I won't up and retire on you in a few years. I plan on working as long as I am healthy. I like working.
2013-07-12 07:18:47 AM
1 votes:

steerforth: bathbubble: steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.


I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....

Don't worry, dear. Lindsay Lohan may pop her clogs any moment and then you too can feel as misunderstood as the rest of us.


Will Amy Winehouse or Heath Ledger do?
2013-07-12 07:13:07 AM
1 votes:
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim
Because it was grassy and wanted wear,
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I,
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Then that road dwindled down to a game path.

Then that game path dwindled down to nothing at all.

That has made all the difference.
2013-07-12 07:11:53 AM
1 votes:
So maybe I should ditch the flannel, Doc Martens, and stop plastering my cubicle with pictures of Winona Ryder circa 1992?
2013-07-12 07:07:07 AM
1 votes:

OldTXwmn: Just retired boomer here, so I am getting a kick out of ....
I didn't have debt, have a freaky combo of two defined benefit retirement plans (what is left of social security and one other). Whoot. Freaky lucky skill set too, got recruiters calling me all the time to do some work, "aren't you getting bored?" "Don't you miss _____" Nah, I don't miss anything.. taking the grandkids to see One Direction next week, road trip :) I figure I better get what I put into social security back out before whatever happens to that happens, then if I need to I will work again.


lick my crack, asshole
2013-07-12 07:06:26 AM
1 votes:
It's really the people with business degrees (the shop class of college) who end up getting into positions of power, never leave, and demand all people for every job, have a minimum of ten years experience (five for masters) for entry level positions that pay nine dollars an hour.
2013-07-12 07:05:15 AM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Doc Daneeka: I'm confused.

I was born in 1981 and am currently 32.

Sometimes I see people my age described as Gen X and sometimes as Millennials.  I know that these things don't have hard-and-fast boundaries, but I never know which generation I supposedly belong to.

Are you hardworking and industrious or are you whiny and lazy?


Varies from day to day.
2013-07-12 07:00:46 AM
1 votes:

bathbubble: steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.


I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....


Don't worry, dear. Lindsay Lohan may pop her clogs any moment and then you too can feel as misunderstood as the rest of us.
2013-07-12 06:52:12 AM
1 votes:

steerforth: CarnySaur: Many Gen Xers graduated into weak job markets, carrying hefty student debt. Then, along the way, they lost ground in recessions, the dot-com bust, middle management downsizings and the housing market collapse.

They forgot to mention how none of us really recovered from the death of Kurt Cobain.

It defined our generation, much like the deaths of John Lennon and Albus Dumbledore have done for those that came before and after.



I feel like it says something about my generation that our "defining death" is that of a fictional character, but I'm not quite sure what that something is....
2013-07-12 06:06:24 AM
1 votes:
Article is spot on. First job I had was as a scentless apprentice for Floyd the barber. Place reeked of bleach, and I got a sliver and I thought to myself, "Jesus doesn't want me for a sunbeam", and "I hate myself and want to die", so I quit. It's been 20 something years now, and I was thinking of starting a band, and just kind of living off my girlfriends salary. Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more.
2013-07-12 05:54:59 AM
1 votes:
every time they want me to do more work I just say "that's cool. now how about some more pay?"

then they don't give me any more work.

so I can sit on fark dispensing wisdom while posting wesley willis songs on facebook
2013-07-12 05:36:48 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com


/Any day now
2013-07-12 05:27:53 AM
1 votes:
Suddenly, Anus Bees

i25.photobucket.com
2013-07-12 05:25:51 AM
1 votes:
If you're expecting anything other than a paycheck in today's world, you're going to be very disappointed. 

...that is all...
2013-07-12 12:29:07 AM
1 votes:

unlikely: Gen Xer: Whatever, gramps. How 'bout you retire

die?


Bring on the death panels!

/kidding
//sorta
2013-07-12 12:20:14 AM
1 votes:
These threads are almost as predictable as bicycle threads.

Boomer: Those gen X whiners just need to work harder.
Gen Xer: Whatever, gramps. How 'bout you retire?
Millennial: We can't even GET jobs!
Boomer: Check back with me when you work as hard as WE did.
Everyone: Whatever, Gramps.

Someone posts a picture of the "Worked a summer job/bought a new car" "Quit a job/got a new one" shoops.

Yay.
 
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