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(My West Texas)   Man arrested for sexually assaulting a 12-year-old autistic girl facing 2,629,746 to 52,068,970 minutes behind bars   (mywesttexas.com) divider line 105
    More: Asinine, Rafael Acosta Rodriguez, sex crimes, Martin County, U.S. Marshals Service  
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2013-07-12 11:38:03 AM

teenytinycornteeth: hardinparamedic:Speaking from experience, sometimes you have to crack a gallows humor joke about the horrible things humanity is capable of, like this.

Otherwise, you end up eating a bullet because of what you see and know about.

Thank you for missing everything I wrote about this subject.  I understand what the theory and concept is behind gallows humor.  I just don't buy that every time someone makes a rape joke, autism joke, dead baby joke it's because they're so overwraught with pain over the situation that if the don't joke abou it they'll collapse.  The key word in your statement is "sometimes".  I have to reiterate that I'm not offended by this joke, just because...well...I'm not...I just don't really honestly believe that it was necessary to make the joke because everyone in here was so broken up about this autistic girl being attacked that someone had to break the  silence and relieve the pressure. My point is that I think "I'm just laughing so I don't cry" has become a tired excuse that people use when they're called out on doing something offensive to someone else.


On the other hand, the simplest explanation is the best: Welcome to FARK. This is a website where people focus on trolling and inciting negative emotional stress in as many people as possible.

But you do have a point. Context is key to gallows humor.
 
2013-07-12 11:45:10 AM
That headline was artistic
 
2013-07-12 11:59:55 AM

hardinparamedic: On the other hand, the simplest explanation is the best: Welcome to FARK. This is a website where people focus on trolling and inciting negative emotional stress in as many people as possible.

But you do have a point. Context is key to gallows humor.


This kind of was my original point, actually. The very flowery and dramatic quote from Sandwyrm was:

"We don't laugh because we gain joy from the girl's suffering.  We laugh because sometimes it's the only thing keeping us sane."

After I'm done rolling my eyes I'd ask that you just say "i thought it was funny because I have a pretty dark and twisted sense of humor" rather than giving me your bullshiat story about being so overwrought at the state of humanity that if you didn't make jokes you'd have to kill yourself because you're just that sensitive to the suffering of every human being around you when actually the opposite is true.  The fact is we're so distant and unattached to this story that because it's simply text on a page with a few key buzzwords (autism amirite?) we can laugh and make jokes about it as if it were fiction.
 
2013-07-12 12:11:24 PM

teenytinycornteeth: After I'm done rolling my eyes I'd ask that you just say "i thought it was funny because I have a pretty dark and twisted sense of humor" rather than giving me your bullshiat story about being so overwrought at the state of humanity that if you didn't make jokes you'd have to kill yourself because you're just that sensitive to the suffering of every human being around you when actually the opposite is true.


Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this. I don't really know what your life experiences are, but having seen some truly (and lack of better description) "farked up shiat", including dealing with victims of child sexual assault, and also pointing out the fact that coping mechanisms develop based around that person's life experiences - there is a place for gallows humor, and people who usually deal with things like that have a messed up sense of humor, yes, but it's not a reflection of that person's personality or the way they treat fellow human beings.

Having a dark and twisted sense of humor is one thing. So is not being able to utilize it in the proper settings. But there is something to be said about the development of that AS a coping mechanism for dealing with psychological trauma, many times which that person may not have adequate outlets to seek help from.

teenytinycornteeth: The fact is we're so distant and unattached to this story that because it's simply text on a page with a few key buzzwords (autism amirite?) we can laugh and make jokes about it as if it were fiction.


Again, I don't see it as that in the least. Just because someone makes a joke based on the situation does not mean they are uncold, uncaring, or that they do not feel pain or horror at the situation at hand. But that doesn't mean all they have to express is righteous indignation over the internet, on a website who's very existance is qualified by snark and sarcastic commentary towards - at times - the worst of humanity.
 
2013-07-12 12:18:22 PM

hardinparamedic: teenytinycornteeth: After I'm done rolling my eyes I'd ask that you just say "i thought it was funny because I have a pretty dark and twisted sense of humor" rather than giving me your bullshiat story about being so overwrought at the state of humanity that if you didn't make jokes you'd have to kill yourself because you're just that sensitive to the suffering of every human being around you when actually the opposite is true.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this. I don't really know what your life experiences are, but having seen some truly (and lack of better description) "farked up shiat", including dealing with victims of child sexual assault, and also pointing out the fact that coping mechanisms develop based around that person's life experiences - there is a place for gallows humor, and people who usually deal with things like that have a messed up sense of humor, yes, but it's not a reflection of that person's personality or the way they treat fellow human beings.

Having a dark and twisted sense of humor is one thing. So is not being able to utilize it in the proper settings. But there is something to be said about the development of that AS a coping mechanism for dealing with psychological trauma, many times which that person may not have adequate outlets to seek help from.

teenytinycornteeth: The fact is we're so distant and unattached to this story that because it's simply text on a page with a few key buzzwords (autism amirite?) we can laugh and make jokes about it as if it were fiction.

Again, I don't see it as that in the least. Just because someone makes a joke based on the situation does not mean they are uncold, uncaring, or that they do not feel pain or horror at the situation at hand. But that doesn't mean all they have to express is righteous indignation over the internet, on a website who's very existance is qualified by snark and sarcastic commentary towards - at times - the worst of humanity.


I'm not trying to express righteous indignation.  Like I said, I'm not one of the pearl clutching folks that was offended...I just see a LOT of people using "gallows humor" as an excuse that somehow makes everything acceptable to joke about at any time rather than just saying "it's fark, I thought it was funny, cram it".
 
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