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(The Atlantic Wire)   Gamers can't handle the new female Head at Xbox. *THAT'S SEXIST.jpg*   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 114
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2013-07-11 11:43:28 PM  

potterydove: Theaetetus: NostroZ: Mike_LowELL: Yay!  A video games and feminism thread!  And I'm actually going to be around for the moment it hits the main page!  It's going to be fun destroying every one of you!

Video games are an extension of hunting for males.  While there were female hunters, they tended to be more gatherers.

Going from that basic pre-supposition of our evolutionary biology...

 Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were attempting to make a scientific point. Mythology class is down the hall.

Actually, he made a valid point, rape troll.


Which is more than you've ever done. And nice try at threadjacking. Now go back under your bridge.
 
2013-07-12 12:01:00 AM  

picturescrazy: Mike_LowELL: Yay!  A video games and feminism thread!  And I'm actually going to be around for the moment it hits the main page!  It's going to be fun destroying every one of you!

You can not destroy me. I'll unplug my Ethernet cable when my health is at ten percent.


Then ill msg you over xbox live saying "you didn't beat me, I quit"
 
2013-07-12 12:06:00 AM  

Mike_LowELL: They're plenty capable of offering their opinions on what they like or why they like a game.  And no, I don't somehow think that the capacity of players to play or understand games is tied to their background with games.  That said, if you're outside of the game development spectrum, it can be very difficult to cast judgment on what and what does not work if you don't have a wide perspective.  (This even happens in so-called "competitive gaming" communities, where people spend thousands of hours trying to become the best at one video game.  Because by the time you're done trying to do that, you're only thoroughly explored the hell out of one game.)  If someone only plays Halo or Call of Duty, it's going to be very difficult to explain to them how first-person shooters have gotten slower and less complex.  If they're willing to have an open discussion about it and take in advice, then I have no issue with it.  But a lot of people look at these discussions as an emotional attack on their "favoriet gaem of all tiems" and double down on their narrow opinions.


Yes I've learned this lesson the hard way and have since corrected the "problem."  The thing is though that a lot of guys don't...  They think because they played WoW, LoL, CoD, or Halo they know everything about game design regardless of genre.  They have no frame of reference when it comes to design which is really important.  You can have your preferences and favorites and whatnot, but if you want to be an effective designer you need to have a experience playing all genres.  Meh, I'm getting off topic though.
 
2013-07-12 01:34:24 AM  

divx88: "who supposedly has no gaming experience"

If that is true it is a stupid decision to put her in that position.


Here's a question: what might constitute gaming experience?

What the fresh hell does that even mean? Mortal Kombat? FIFA2012? Skyrim? Texas Hold'em? HALO? Coed Naked Rugby? Or maybe it means more along the lines of designing, coding, or even *shudder* marketing a title...

/I had a small room in a telnet MUD in 1993, am I l337 or not?
 
2013-07-12 02:47:28 AM  
I never know who is running shiat over at Microsoft, I just know that they produce absolute garbage. It doesn't matter if a man or woman is in charge, they all follow the caustic Microsoft philosophy that should have every one of you grabbing your wallets and runnning for the hills.
 
2013-07-12 05:54:26 AM  

Smelly McUgly: BumpInTheNight: Meh,


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Steam Summer Sale is on now.

Speaking of which, is there ANY chance that they discount the just-came-out Civ 5 Brave New World DLC by 50%, or should I not even bother to check my email each day to look for a discount.


Here, let me google that for you:  Its 33% off right now.  Not sure if the $3 difference is that critical to you, but it wouldn't be for me.

/paying $60 for extensions & updates of existing games is for consolers.
 
2013-07-12 10:04:28 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Because it's a media platform - not just a gaming platform


*bzzzt* wrong.

It's a gaming platform. No matter how much they want to turn it into something else, it's a gaming platform, and that's the only way people will ever see it. Sure it does other things, but at the end of the day, the xbox brand is just a tip calculator to the Mr. Seinfeld's that are the world's consumers. Or however that should be phrased.

And the ribbon was a disdainful failure. People hate the ribbon. It doesn't surprise me that Microsoft sees that as a success. They're in the business of doing the opposite of what people want.
 
2013-07-12 10:07:05 AM  

StopLurkListen: Why do you assume she has no passion? Did you have the same concerns about Mattrick's passion when he started? Is your concern about her supposed lack of passion based purely on her gender?


The lack of passion was just an added concern. But yes, my concern is solely based on her gender. Males and females are different. It's pretty much only males who are interested in "hardcore" gaming like consoles. So why hire the opposite gender to that? It makes no sense.

The answer, like the guy said above, is because Microsoft views the xbox as media first, games second. And that's the way they're going to run it. ...right into the ground. Because like I just said, people see it as a gaming box...  because that's what it is.
 
2013-07-12 10:46:58 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Yay!  A video games and feminism thread!  And I'm actually going to be around for the moment it hits the main page!  It's going to be fun destroying every one of you!


Now we know what Anita Sarkesian's FARK handle is.
 
2013-07-12 11:11:58 AM  
Someone was mean to an upperclass attractive white woman!  Everyone get outraged!  Did you know that 98% of victims of violent crime are attractive white women?  I know it's true because I see it on teevee.
 
2013-07-12 11:33:53 AM  

sure haven't: The lack of passion was just an added concern. But yes, my concern is solely based on her gender. Males and females are different. It's pretty much only males who are interested in "hardcore" gaming like consoles. So why hire the opposite gender to that? It makes no sense.


If she turns FPS games into something other then shiat brown piles of generic rubble, and obvious chest high cover points, I'll hail her as a goddess

/tired of spunkgargleweewee game #grey
 
2013-07-12 12:27:31 PM  

sure haven't: *bzzzt* wrong.

It's a gaming platform.


No, the xbox is whatever they want it to be.  If they want it to be both, then they're going to try, and I don't see any reason why a device like the xbox can't be the entertainment hub for people who don't subscribe to cable.

Second, she heads up the devices and entertainment division, which includes xbox, but also tabelts, phones, games, music, and entertainment.

sure haven't: And the ribbon was a disdainful failure.


Was?  It's still there, you know.  And Microsoft has 95% market share in the office suite business, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you hold the minority opinion.  How big do you want your menus to be, anyway?

What she did with the ribbon, BTW, was broker a compromise whereby the functionality of the ribbon could still be accessed exclusively via command line for power users.  It's easy to imagine someone like Jobs or Sinofsky demanding that the keyboard shortcuts are obsolete and therefore disabled, leaving power users out in the cold.

I reckon you ought to give her a chance.
 
2013-07-12 03:13:13 PM  
I don't care if a woman is in charge of XBox, because they already lost me when they introduced the non-negotiable KinectBox One.

But I do take issue with TFA's author referring to Mrs. Larson-Green as "hot", because she just isn't. She's too plastic.

i.huffpost.com

ncwtv.com

She apparently used to be kind of cute, but then decided she wasn't going to age gracefully and spent more than most people make in a year on some downright awful cosmetic surgery. This tells me several things about this person:

1. She is bad at managing money and makes poor spending choices.

2. She is vapid and narcissistic, but then, that's the California "image is everything" attitude for you.

3. She's an A-type personality that believes she needs to use her looks as an asset to get ahead and "win" at life.


These are all generalizations based on a couple pictures. I could be 100% wrong. However, I am usually right on the mark when it comes to looking at a person's personal style and image and deducing what kind of person they are. Her whole look tells me she's not someone I'd like to know, personally.

But none of that matters. Can she do the job? Probably. Is she smart? I'm guessing yes. Is she a shark in the business world? I'm also guessing yes.

But I still won't be buying an Xbox One. My PS4 preorder still stands. If they drop the Kinect requirement, I might consider it, but it looks like they're married to the idea and won't let it go, so they lost me as a customer. With that in mind, I don't care if they hire a homeless crack addict with scabies to lead their Xbox team, because it doesn't affect me at all.
 
2013-07-12 03:23:23 PM  

Babwa Wawa: Was? It's still there, you know. And Microsoft has 95% market share in the office suite business, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you hold the minority opinion. How big do you want your menus to be, anyway?

What she did with the ribbon, BTW, was broker a compromise whereby the functionality of the ribbon could still be accessed exclusively via command line for power users. It's easy to imagine someone like Jobs or Sinofsky demanding that the keyboard shortcuts are obsolete and therefore disabled, leaving power users out in the cold.

I reckon you ought to give her a chance.


Ok, the ribbon is a complete and utter failure. But when you have a monopoly, you can do whatever you want.
What else are people going to use?? Google docs? Do they have standalone software or just the web apps?

Same with Windows 8. By your metric, it's a success because it's being adopted. However I would say that people f'n hate it. But they really have no other choice unless they spend 75% more on a comparable Apple PC. Windows 8 is a joke and failure, yet yes it still makes money.

Anyways, at the end of the day, none of this sh*t matters. We have the Snowden thing happening right now in the world, and I'm arguing about some stupid company.
 
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