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(Slashdot)   Researchers figuring out a way to store tons of data on a single disk of quartz glass that'll be readable for a million years, so your porn can survive the apocalypse   (slashdot.org) divider line 38
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2013-07-11 12:39:19 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-11 12:42:11 PM
Unless they don't happen to have the encoding format.
 
2013-07-11 01:06:54 PM
Yeah, but is there apocalyptic porn?

/rule 34 and all that
 
2013-07-11 01:26:30 PM
That's pretty cool.  I disagree about it likely outlasting humanity - while we may well look different in one million years, I'd assume we'll still be around, and likely have colonized a number of other planets by then.

Still, we should be backing up as much knowledge as we can.  Every day there are books, newspapers, audio recordings, video recordings, etc, that are lost forever with no backup copies.  Finding a way to store the totality of human knowledge and data may not ever be possible, but we should certainly try and get as much of it as we can.
 
2013-07-11 02:10:07 PM
t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-11 02:18:47 PM
Comment FTA: My one question is "Why would you want to store Data, etc that will outlast the human race, Who will be here to read it and are you able to make the equipment that can read the files and will it outlast the Human Race". Seems to me that it is more important to be doing research for things that will HELP the human race NOW and in the range of Normal Life Span. LG Smith, PE

Does this person think that because it will still be readable in a million years, that we have no use for a stable ultra-dense ROM now?
 
2013-07-11 02:18:54 PM

SurfaceTension: Yeah, but is there apocalyptic porn?


Why I watched The Walking Dead: An XXX Parody just this morning!

My thinking on the matter of doomsday data storage is that it isn't super-relevant or useful unless there's a whole series of Rosetta Stone-like tools to convey the information needed to access that storage. I can see doing some things that start with physical constants and fundamental math and building that in to some kind of binary language, but there's minimally hundreds of years of mathematics, philosophy and engineering contained in the assumption that anything other than printed/engraved materials will be useful to anyone after any kind of cataclysmic scenario.
 
2013-07-11 02:21:34 PM
Time enough at last... to fap!

/*crack*
//oh no! my glasses!
 
2013-07-11 02:25:51 PM
Is the quartz formed into a slab with ratios 9:4:1?
 
2013-07-11 02:27:49 PM
blog.newsarama.com
Not impressed.
 
2013-07-11 02:28:49 PM
Superman, check.
Stargate, check.

Well, I have nothing else to add.

/back to sorting through my pr0n collection
 
2013-07-11 02:32:28 PM
And someday, the descendants of our domesticated animals can use this collected knowledge to travel to another star-system, and attempt to conquer the dominant species living there.


/"Sancho! My armor!"
 
2013-07-11 02:41:38 PM
Jedi holocrons for all
 
2013-07-11 02:48:53 PM
But can we embed this data in Crystal Skulls?  That's the important question.
 
2013-07-11 03:00:19 PM
" Researchers develop technique for recording up to 360TB of data on a glass disk that should be readable in a million years"


OMG!  i have to wait a Million Years to read it ?!!?

/shiatty writing will still around then too i suppose
 
2013-07-11 03:03:26 PM

give me doughnuts: And someday, the descendants of our domesticated animals can use this collected knowledge to travel to another star-system, and attempt to conquer the dominant species living there.


/"Sancho! My armor!"


Melon daiquiri
 
2013-07-11 03:25:18 PM
We should put detailed records of the anti-vaccer and climate change denial movements on one of these storage devices and find a safe place to put it, so when the aliens/evolved cockroaches of the future dig through the crumbled remains of our civilization in a few million years they will know what happened.
 
2013-07-11 03:29:12 PM

Target Builder: We should put detailed records of the anti-vaccer and climate change denial movements on one of these storage devices and find a safe place to put it, so when the aliens/evolved cockroaches of the future dig through the crumbled remains of our civilization in a few million years they will know what happened.


If we self destruct I'm sure they'll already suspect that psychopaths and idiots were the cause of our demise.
 
2013-07-11 03:29:35 PM
Priests of the future will destroy them.
 
2013-07-11 03:37:06 PM

TuteTibiImperes: That's pretty cool.  I disagree about it likely outlasting humanity - while we may well look different in one million years, I'd assume we'll still be around, and likely have colonized a number of other planets by then.


Oh crap.  I think you just summoned Quantum Apostrophe to the thread.
 
2013-07-11 03:43:26 PM

FrancoFile: give me doughnuts: And someday, the descendants of our domesticated animals can use this collected knowledge to travel to another star-system, and attempt to conquer the dominant species living there.


/"Sancho! My armor!"

Melon daiquiri



Thumbs!
 
2013-07-11 03:52:28 PM

give me doughnuts: Comment FTA: My one question is "Why would you want to store Data, etc that will outlast the human race, Who will be here to read it and are you able to make the equipment that can read the files and will it outlast the Human Race". Seems to me that it is more important to be doing research for things that will HELP the human race NOW and in the range of Normal Life Span. LG Smith, PE

Does this person think that because it will still be readable in a million years, that we have no use for a stable ultra-dense ROM now?


Sounds like Quantum Apostrophe posts there too!

But this is interesting, if for no other reason than these things are stable up to 1000 degrees C and presumably immune to EMP effects, meaning we have a way to store data that will likely persist through a nuclear holocaust.  That's something that normal HDs are unlikely to do, plus they'd be ideal for data coming back from outer space, as you may need less rad shielding.
 
2013-07-11 03:59:18 PM
Just think, we might be mining rocks right now that already have all of the information and technology we could ever imagine already stored in them by beings from previous cycles of life. We just don't have a reader (CD-Rock drive).
 
2013-07-11 04:01:56 PM

Do the needful: Just think, we might be mining rocks right now that already have all of the information and technology we could ever imagine already stored in them by beings from previous cycles of life. We just don't have a reader (CD-Rock drive).


theperfectsilence.com
 
2013-07-11 04:55:33 PM

PsyLord: Superman, check.
Stargate, check.

Well, I have nothing else to add.

/back to sorting through my pr0n collection


This post, check.  I guess I'm at a loss now.
 
2013-07-11 05:16:33 PM
Giant ice dildos for everybody!
 
2013-07-11 07:35:29 PM
Sliders, Episode 74, "The Great Work"

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

/Was on last night when I couldn't sleep. Sliders fixed that
 
2013-07-11 10:37:08 PM
"It is thrilling to think that we have created the first document which will likely survive the human race," said Peter Kazansky, professor of physical optoelectronics at the Univ. of Southampton's Optical Research Centre. "This technology can secure the last evidence of civilization: all we've learnt will not be forgotten."

I'm pretty sure that carving things deeply in hard stone will suffice as far as surviving the human race. We've had that tech for a while. If you're *REALLY* serious, carve something deeply on pure iron tablets and fling them towards galactic north or south. That information should last a while.

The protocol to read them however... That'd probably be lost in a few generations.

I know this is more an article about a cool storage technology, but...

CSB:

I used to date a woman who had been writing for decades and was an early adopter so far as tech. She had an entire box of 5-1/4" and 3-1/2" disks with text files she had created on Control Data machines, early AppleWriter, Word Perfect, various iterations of MS Word, so on and so forth. I offered to collect and translate them to modern formats.

You can guess that was a big project, and a lot of the labor was handled by her 9 year old son swapping floppies (for which he was paid $10) I just had to consolidate, collate, translate, format and re-translate a dozen or so formats.

Three things came out in the end... A huge stack of printed paper, a DVD full of the latest MS-Word, and (unasked) a DVD full of stripped-down vanilla HTML. I figured that even a generation from now, so long as they can read the data any programmer worth their salt can read vanilla HTML.

Of course, none of that means anything if people don't understand the language that something is written in. Gregory Benford has written some interesting stuff along the lines of "20,000 years ago, we didn't even have written language. How do you write warning signs for nuclear waste dumps that might be deadly that long?"

How do you read things 20,000+ years removed?
 
2013-07-11 11:54:26 PM

TuteTibiImperes: while we may well look different in one million years, I'd assume we'll still be around, and likely have colonized a number of other planets by then.


You're adorable! I just wanna reach into my monitor and pinch your cheeks!
 
2013-07-12 12:20:13 AM
Quantum Apostrophe:

TuteTibiImperes: while we may well look different in one million years, I'd assume we'll still be around, and likely have colonized a number of other planets by then.

You're adorable! I just wanna reach into my monitor and pinch your cheeks!


Dude! This is of critical importance to you! You'll still be alive and kicking 10,000 years from now, right?
 
2013-07-12 12:52:54 AM

bdub77:


Oh, win, win, win!


/win
 
2013-07-12 12:59:14 AM

Do the needful: Just think, we might be mining rocks right now that already have all of the information and technology we could ever imagine already stored in them by beings from previous cycles of life. We just don't have a reader (CD-Rock drive).


My Lemurian singing crystals are just waiting for my brain to receive the codes.

/yes, I'm one of those
//but I prefer hard science
///ooh, baby!
//science will save us from religious intolerance, I hope
/hippie-dippie yes I am
 
2013-07-12 01:00:24 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: TuteTibiImperes: while we may well look different in one million years, I'd assume we'll still be around, and likely have colonized a number of other planets by then.

You're adorable! I just wanna reach into my monitor and pinch your cheeks!


Dude, I didn't say tomorrow, in a decade, in our lifetime, in 10,000 years, or even 100,000 years.

We've gone from hunter-gatherers living in caves to landing robots on Mars in 200,000 years, given 5 times that amount of time from now finding ways to establish permanent settlements on other planets seems like a realistic goal.
 
2013-07-12 01:00:27 AM

dryknife: Do the needful: Just think, we might be mining rocks right now that already have all of the information and technology we could ever imagine already stored in them by beings from previous cycles of life. We just don't have a reader (CD-Rock drive).


Twist, twist!
 
2013-07-12 04:16:17 PM
images.static-bluray.com
 
2013-07-12 05:28:31 PM
Yeah but can I get it on a USB?
 
2013-07-12 08:36:15 PM
"Great G'laugnaut, I present to you this disk of the history, literature and knowledge of
the legendary people's of Errrth, from the expedition WHOOPS!"
 
2013-07-13 02:16:59 AM
Bring Sajuuk to bear!
 
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