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(Opposing Views)   Man denied gun for having a history with drugs. Fark: A single marijuana charge. WTFark: 30 years ago   (opposingviews.com ) divider line
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2013-07-11 01:04:45 PM  
Meh i can't even cross the border from Canada into a state where MJ is legal now because of a charge 25 years ago for one joint.
 
2013-07-11 01:04:53 PM  
Let's stretch credulity and ask, if he then gets murdered (lacking a gun for self defense), can we then claim that pot kills?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-11 01:06:37 PM  
There was a recent decision in Massachusetts holding that an 18 year old sealed juvenile noncriminal adjudication for illegal possession of a gun could permanently bar a person from legally possessing a gun.
 
2013-07-11 01:07:21 PM  
Nothing to see here, just another asshole hoplophobe overreaching his authority
 
2013-07-11 01:08:00 PM  
WAR ON DRUGS!!!
i8.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-11 01:08:28 PM  
Life sucks and it's not fair, deal with it.
Many large corporations require drug tests for employment, so it's something to think about if you are unemployed.
 
2013-07-11 01:09:02 PM  

""I am ashamed of the way my government has treated me," Kelly said. "The government may have the greatest of intentions with the [law], but they messed it up.""


Being denied a gun permit really isn't the worst your government can treat you. If this makes you feel ashamed, then how do you feel about the NSA conducting wholesale spying on the world?

 
2013-07-11 01:09:11 PM  
Maybe things have consequences.

/not saying that pot should be illegal.
 
2013-07-11 01:09:16 PM  
I suggest the trunk of his friendly neighbourhood gun dealer.
if you want it and the man wont let you have it. Then the black market is for you.
 
2013-07-11 01:09:29 PM  
What, no Newsflash tag? I mean an older white male, in TEXAS, was actually denied a firearm.

How often does that happen?
 
2013-07-11 01:09:47 PM  
history's greatest monster.
 
2013-07-11 01:10:55 PM  
Clearly the man has not consumed enough marijuana.

He needs to mellow out before he can be trusted with a gun like any drunkard, psychotic, sociopath, racist, looney, xenophobe, deeply depressed person, spousal abuser or child-molester.
 
2013-07-11 01:11:10 PM  

mrlewish: Maybe things have consequences.

/not saying that pot should be illegal.


Unless you're a banker.
 
2013-07-11 01:11:14 PM  

ZAZ: There was a recent decision in Massachusetts holding that an 18 year old sealed juvenile noncriminal adjudication for illegal possession of a gun could permanently bar a person from legally possessing a gun.


I thought tbe purpose of sealing juvie records is so they you know are sealed. As in not to be used against you
 
2013-07-11 01:11:29 PM  
Wait a minute. I thought U.S. gun-control laws were so lax that felons were rolling shopping carts full of assault weapons out of every Guns R Us, and then shooting up kindergartens.

Did something change?
 
2013-07-11 01:11:33 PM  
I feel so warm and safe knowing that a retired army vet pot-head can't shoot me now.
(with a gun that  he owns.)
 
2013-07-11 01:11:52 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Nothing to see here, just another asshole hoplophobe overreaching his authority


You taught me a new word. Thanks.

The hoplite was a hopping hoplophobe who was high on hops.
 
2013-07-11 01:11:57 PM  
Seems like a weed charge haven't stopped my brother from buying guns................In farking Illinois
 
2013-07-11 01:12:01 PM  
Well, you know...he might have some kind of marihuana flashback. You know...from shooting up all those marihuana goofballs.
 
2013-07-11 01:12:17 PM  

Doublespeak: Meh i can't even cross the border from Canada into a state where MJ is legal now because of a charge 25 years ago for one joint.


I used to have to travel to Canada to meet with a client because a DUI charge prevented him from ever entering the United States.  I thought that was kind of interesting.
 
2013-07-11 01:12:47 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Seems like a weed charge haven't stopped my brother from buying guns................In farking Illinois


All legal
 
2013-07-11 01:13:12 PM  
Can we please get a TEXAS tag? They've become so derpy that even Florida laughs at them.

/they make florida look downright progressive
 
2013-07-11 01:13:36 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-11 01:13:42 PM  
War on drugs! We're winning!
 
2013-07-11 01:13:58 PM  
According to an article in the Houston Chronicle, "the law states that a person can be prevented from owing a gun if they are convicted of a misdemeanor in which they could spend more than two years behind bars."

How did a law like this even get passed in Texas (which is where I'm guessing the pot-bust happened)? Is it still on the books?
 
2013-07-11 01:14:09 PM  
I have had this belief that gun as classifications will never be restricted.

Then how will guns be restricted, by looking for criminal misdemeanors, and ramping up the security requirements from there.

/The NRA will eventually fail because they won't give an inch.  See what happened with the Volstead Act regarding prohibition and that is why the NRA is so farked up.
 
2013-07-11 01:15:47 PM  

skinink: ""I am ashamed of the way my government has treated me," Kelly said. "The government may have the greatest of intentions with the [law], but they messed it up.""
Being denied a gun permit really isn't the worst your government can treat you. If this makes you feel ashamed, then how do you feel about the NSA conducting wholesale spying on the world?


ass raped?
 
2013-07-11 01:16:11 PM  

NutWrench: How did a law like this even get passed in Texas (which is where I'm guessing the pot-bust happened)? Is it still on the books?


....because texans arent as crazy as people think, and they believe in responsible gun ownership?
 
2013-07-11 01:16:35 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Can we please get a TEXAS tag? They've become so derpy that even Florida laughs at them.

/they make florida look downright progressive


Wouldn't that background check be federal/ATF?

That he happens to live in Texas is probably irrelevant.
 
2013-07-11 01:16:55 PM  
Local man wants to have a gun.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-11 01:17:06 PM  
Well that's how this zero-defect technocracy works, people.
The computers never forget.

/Enjoy this bed you've made for yourselves.
 
2013-07-11 01:17:43 PM  
Is the Drug War a scandal yet?
 
2013-07-11 01:17:49 PM  
 a misdemeanor marijuana conviction from 1971


According to an article in the Houston Chronicle, "the law states that a person can be prevented from owing a gun if they are convicted of a misdemeanor in which they could spend more than two years behind bars."


   Bad laws bad laws whatcha gonna do 
 
2013-07-11 01:18:21 PM  

NutWrench: According to an article in the Houston Chronicle, "the law states that a person can be prevented from owing a gun if they are convicted of a misdemeanor in which they could spend more than two years behind bars."

How did a law like this even get passed in Texas (which is where I'm guessing the pot-bust happened)? Is it still on the books?



For some bizarre reason, more brown people get arrested and convicted in Texas. This keeps them from being able to legally purchase firearms.
 
2013-07-11 01:19:14 PM  

Zgamcube: Life sucks and it's not fair, deal with it.
Many large corporations require drug tests for employment, so it's something to think about if you are unemployed.


Yes, it's easier to get a gun than get a job.
Perhaps the jobless should all get some guns.

/Go on....
 
2013-07-11 01:19:36 PM  
Opposing Views using The Blaze as a source....anybody have a credible source for this story.
 
2013-07-11 01:22:19 PM  
Opposing Views links thick as flies today.
At least the Daily Fail has interesting sexy sidebar stories...
 
2013-07-11 01:23:08 PM  
For a misdemeanor?
 
2013-07-11 01:23:50 PM  
Good. One time I did 3 marijuanas and accidentally looked at a gun. It shot me in the head and killed me on the spot. The whole time the gun was laughing and saying "Marijuana kills. Now you know." I never touched the pot ever again.
 
2013-07-11 01:23:59 PM  
For a freakin' Misdemeanor? A felony I could understand, but isn't that the equivalent of stealing a candy bar?
 
2013-07-11 01:24:06 PM  
I work with a guy who was recently denied his permit after an interview, citing a DUI from over 20 years ago.  I would think it's kind of like firing an employee for being late.  It's hard to fire a guy because employment records can't define "beligerent douche" and defend it in court, so you find technicalities.
If you're responsible for policing this stuff, and though it would seem unconstitutional, you'd wonder why some old guy is just now trying to buy a gun and figure no good will come of his possession of a weapon.
 
2013-07-11 01:24:29 PM  
I also feel its important to point out that they didnt bother to elaborate on the charge.  Keep in mind this was in 1971... drug laws just werent strict back then.  Its entirely possible he was charged with distribution etc and still only received a misdemeanor.

I seem to recall several famous smugglers back then getting busted with hundreds of pounds of pot and just getting a slap on the wrist.
 
2013-07-11 01:24:55 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Seems like a weed charge haven't stopped my brother from buying guns................In farking Illinois


That is because you are not in a liberal socialist state that hates firearms like Texas.
 
2013-07-11 01:24:56 PM  
Legal Shmegal... Black market says you can have ANYTHING you want if you have the cash.
 
2013-07-11 01:25:11 PM  
So let's make up our minds; do we want gun buyers to undergo tougher background checks or not?
 
2013-07-11 01:28:41 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Let's stretch credulity and ask, if he then gets murdered (lacking a gun for self defense), can we then claim that pot kills?


Well, he was a senior in high school at the time, so you could make the argument that high school kills.
 
2013-07-11 01:29:39 PM  
Goddamn liberal bed-wetting blue-state weenies! those farker will glom on to ANY excuse to deny a citizen his basic constitutional rights won;t they? I mean...wait...it happened WHERE?!   I though Owning a gun in Texas was more a sacrament than a privilege....
 
2013-07-11 01:30:19 PM  
I can imagine some very confused hippies looking at this case, realizing that here, weakening pot-related drug laws will have the consequence of promoting gun ownership.  Their red-eyed tears of confusion sustain me.
 
2013-07-11 01:32:00 PM  
Enemabag Jones:

/The NRA will eventually fail because they won't give an inch.  See what happened with the Volstead Act regarding prohibition and that is why the NRA is so farked up.

Eventually? That's a long time. How brave of you to throw out generalizations like that...
 
2013-07-11 01:32:12 PM  

GilRuiz1


So let's make up our minds; do we want gun buyers to undergo tougher background checks or not?


False dichotomy is false.

Personally, I want background checks for all purchases. I also want people to be denied only if they represent a credible and reasonable threat (unlike the guy in TFA).
 
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