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(CBS New York)   Average rent in NYC is a cool $3,000 a month. On behalf of all the starving artists in the village, GFY, NYC   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 149
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2013-07-11 09:02:42 AM  
Depends on what sized place, and where.  In a pretty decent area of Queens (Rego Park/Forest Hills) you can get a one bedroom for $1500 or so.  Two bedroom, probably $1800.

Also, my guess is they're only counting the legal places.  Queens is the land of the illegal apartment... usually people in a two floor, one family house renting out one floor as a studio.  Those go for much cheaper than market value.
 
2013-07-11 09:08:57 AM  
It's kind of hard to do an average when people are shelling out 25,000 a month for insane lofts.
 
2013-07-11 09:46:50 AM  
I don't even make 3000 a month
 
2013-07-11 09:54:31 AM  
That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.
 
2013-07-11 09:55:11 AM  

urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.


Argh - one bedroom. Need coffee.
 
2013-07-11 10:07:36 AM  
I pay $1750 for a one bedroom in east village. The bedroom literally fits a bed and a nightstand. My dresser has to go in the living room. It's small but I think it's still a good price considering location.
 
2013-07-11 10:14:45 AM  

urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.


Try some of the towns in southwest CT. Might not be much cheaper depending on the town, but you'll get that feel.
 
2013-07-11 10:26:24 AM  
I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.
 
2013-07-11 11:33:49 AM  
Starving artists can't live in the village.
 
2013-07-11 11:36:18 AM  
Why don't people refuse not to live in places I don't not want them not to live?
 
2013-07-11 12:26:11 PM  
Subby, there are no starving artists in the Village, they moved.   Only the Douche-erati remain, trust fund kids, Sex and the City Hags and Wall Street Bankers.
 
2013-07-11 12:40:35 PM  
I've been to NY a dozen times and I don't know why anyone would actually want to live there unless they work on Wall Street or Broadway. Or if they like to brag that they're a New Yorker, which is really the #1 reason.
 
2013-07-11 01:07:07 PM  
So move to Jersey subby.

Kwitcherbiatchen.
 
2013-07-11 01:14:56 PM  

flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.


Conversely, I love it when people try to justify living in NYC, with all the *INSANE* costs and regulations thereof, when with modern communications and transportation technology you could live elsewhere for a fraction of the cost and *STILL* get to enjoy the best that NYC has to offer whenever they want, without having to suffer from the economic and social downsides.
 
2013-07-11 01:22:23 PM  
You said he was crazy!

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2013-07-11 01:30:20 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: You said he was crazy!

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But they didn't say he was wrong.
 
2013-07-11 01:45:36 PM  

dittybopper: flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.

Conversely, I love it when people try to justify living in NYC, with all the *INSANE* costs and regulations thereof, when with modern communications and transportation technology you could live elsewhere for a fraction of the cost and *STILL* get to enjoy the best that NYC has to offer whenever they want, without having to suffer from the economic and social downsides.


It depends on what you value about living in the city.  Yes, you could live in NJ and easily get into NYC to see the museums, a show, or have dinner at a place in the city, but if you actually live there you can do all without an hour+ commute to do it first, take advantage of the great ethnic restaurants, smaller galleries, or off-broadway shows on a daily basis that might not warrant a destination trip from further away, be able to live easily without a car, head out to the bars and take the subway home without worrying about getting a DUI, etc.

Sure, there are downsides like smaller living spaces, outrageously high prices for many things, and certain restrictions that you may or may not be able to live with, but there's a lot to like for those who want what a place like that has to offer.

I'd seriously consider living in NYC, probably somewhere in Queens, maybe Flushing or Jackson Heights.
 
2013-07-11 01:59:43 PM  
Average rent in NYC is a cool $3,000 a month. On behalf of all the starving artists in the village, GFY, NYC
 
2013-07-11 02:00:04 PM  
I would love to live in NYC.
 
2013-07-11 02:02:49 PM  
That's too damn high.
 
2013-07-11 02:06:27 PM  
Mrs. Highway's rent was insane when she lived on the Lower East Side.  I was happy I wasnt paying rent but it did mean I bought all the drinks.

/Most fun place to live ever
 
2013-07-11 02:06:30 PM  
So people in NYC pay fair market value for housing?   Wow, I wonder if that's also true for their food, furnishings, clothing, autos, etc?
 
2013-07-11 02:06:32 PM  
Well Subby, you *could* just get a real job, so you wouldn't be starving.
 
2013-07-11 02:08:21 PM  
If folks want to live there, and are willing to pay the price, then more power to them.
I like commuting to work on foot, and just paying $600/month to rent a house.
 
2013-07-11 02:09:41 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: It depends on what you value about living in the city. Yes, you could live in NJ and easily get into NYC to see the museums, a show, or have dinner at a place in the city, but if you actually live there you can do all without an hour+ commute to do it first, take advantage of the great ethnic restaurants, smaller galleries, or off-broadway shows on a daily basis that might not warrant a destination trip from further away, be able to live easily without a car, head out to the bars and take the subway home without worrying about getting a DUI, etc.


Anywhere in Jersey that's not a ghetto within an hour of NYC on public transit is going to be pretty expensive anyway.  Not $3000/month for a 1 br, but a hell of a lot more than Lincoln, Nebraska or Cleveland or wherever.
 
2013-07-11 02:12:05 PM  

flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.



Seems like you could create art just as well in Bumfark, Arkansas.  If you were, you know, truly driven by the creative process.  Not like those other posers who are just trying to make the scene.
 
2013-07-11 02:12:26 PM  

urger: urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.

Argh - one bedroom. Need coffee.


Come to the fly over states. Colorado is farking awesome and since you are in the tech field you can easily find a job.
 
2013-07-11 02:14:29 PM  

SearchN: urger: urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.

Argh - one bedroom. Need coffee.

Come to the fly over states. Colorado is farking awesome and since you are in the tech field you can easily find a job.


Lived in the Springs for 2 and 1/2 years......Seasons: Winter and Other......PLUS the beach is too farking far away....
 
2013-07-11 02:14:56 PM  

bikerific: flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.


Seems like you could create art just as well in Bumfark, Arkansas.  If you were, you know, truly driven by the creative process.  Not like those other posers who are just trying to make the scene.


There's something to be said from living around people who share your interests and understand what you do, as well as gaining inspiration and experience from being in the hotbed of a certain industry and getting the chance to see what others are doing first hand.

Not that there aren't more affordable artist communities outside of NYC.
 
2013-07-11 02:15:53 PM  
So how much have wages increased?
 
2013-07-11 02:16:26 PM  

urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.


I'd recommend Westchester over long island any day of the week.  Some places like that still in NJ, but, you're in NJ.
 
2013-07-11 02:17:16 PM  

Mugato: I've been to NY a dozen times and I don't know why anyone would actually want to live there unless they work on Wall Street or Broadway. Or if they like to brag that they're a New Yorker, which is really the #1 reason.


God damn my parents for raising me here.
 
2013-07-11 02:18:08 PM  
I'll let Daniel Tosh handle this one...
"There's no such thing as a starving artist.  You're starving because you're not good at art."
 
2013-07-11 02:18:19 PM  

James!: It's kind of hard to do an average when people are shelling out 25,000 a month for insane lofts.


Math is hard!
 
2013-07-11 02:18:49 PM  

flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.


heh. i live in a 1200sqft house in arkansas's main college town in NWA for $750/mo.  this area is beautiful and being single with no kids makes me feel pretty rich on my 70k/yr.  i'd rather drive a half hour and float one of the local rivers than walk around a huge city.  my living situation is awesome for an introvert.  to each their own though; i don't really give a shiat where people who aren't me decide to live.
 
2013-07-11 02:19:04 PM  
And they still get roaches, fu .... kk dat!
 
2013-07-11 02:20:59 PM  

urger: urger: That's about what our two bedroom goes for. We love the city (we're both 5th generation NYCers) but we're probably going to look at the burb's when our lease is up.

And this scares me to death.

/Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.

Argh - one bedroom. Need coffee.


This bedroom has a stove and a table in it.  This bedroom is in that guy's house, over there. 

/RIP Mitch
 
2013-07-11 02:21:25 PM  

Scoop84: James!: It's kind of hard to do an average when people are shelling out 25,000 a month for insane lofts.

Math is hard!


Actually, James! is right and apparently math is hard for you. The article talks about a mean average whereas because of the outliers, the only proper measure is median.
 
2013-07-11 02:21:42 PM  

tripleseven: Mugato: I've been to NY a dozen times and I don't know why anyone would actually want to live there unless they work on Wall Street or Broadway. Or if they like to brag that they're a New Yorker, which is really the #1 reason.

God damn my parents for raising me here.


www.bic.mni.mcgill.ca
 
2013-07-11 02:21:45 PM  

natgod: flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.

heh. i live in a 1200sqft house in arkansas's main college town in NWA for $750/mo.  this area is beautiful and being single with no kids makes me feel pretty rich on my 70k/yr.  i'd rather drive a half hour and float one of the local rivers than walk around a huge city.  my living situation is awesome for an introvert.  to each their own though; i don't really give a shiat where people who aren't me decide to live.


and with some meth and Oxy's, dating is easy..
 
2013-07-11 02:23:15 PM  
Everyone keeps making a big deal about how the average cost of a NYC apartment is rising, and it is, but most ignore the reason.  The new apartments being built include a large percentage of super luxury residences, which sends the average skyrocketing but doesn't really address the availability of "reasonable" apartments for the non-wealthy.

Yes, living in NYC is expensive, but not to the degree that this article suggests.  My GF and I just moved in together, and there were a number of apartments well within our budget (which was well under $3000/mo) and we live in one of Manhattan's better neighborhoods.
 
2013-07-11 02:24:42 PM  

you have pee hands: Anywhere in Jersey that's not a ghetto within an hour of NYC on public transit is going to be pretty expensive anyway.  Not $3000/month for a 1 br, but a hell of a lot more than Lincoln, Nebraska or Cleveland or wherever.


"Not a ghetto" is highly subjective.  I spent some of my childhood with relatives in Kearny/Harrison.  About an hour from lower Manhattan by PATH, rents in the $1000-1200 range (i.e., national average).  Many people would find it ghetto, but it's better than half the addresses in NYC.  Lots of blue-collar immigrants (Portuguese, Ecuadorians, Guatemalans, Cambodians... all on my block) for neighbors.

The #1 undeniable disadvantage?  You can't meet a cutie in a NYC club and say, "hey... wanna take the train to my place in Harrison?"
 
2013-07-11 02:27:04 PM  

natgod: flucto: I love it when people pour into these threads with their "it's their fault for not living in Arkansas where you can rent a 200 br house with swine pens for $1.57 a month" observations.

heh. i live in a 1200sqft house in Arkansas's main college town in NWA for $750/mo.  this area is beautiful and being single with no kids makes me feel pretty rich on my 70k/yr.  i'd rather drive a half hour and float one of the local rivers than walk around a huge city.  my living situation is awesome for an introvert.  to each their own though; i don't really give a shiat where people who aren't me decide to live.


As a Yankee who spent 18 months in Bateseville-Newark, I too appreciated the unspoiled beauty of Arkansas.   Got to dig in a diamond mine, float down the Buffalo River, help build a power plant, all with astonishingly friendly people who often asked, "yer not from around here, are ya?"  Oh, yeah, and the women....
 
2013-07-11 02:28:57 PM  

RodneyToady: Depends on what sized place, and where.  In a pretty decent area of Queens (Rego Park/Forest Hills) you can get a one bedroom for $1500 or so.  Two bedroom, probably $1800.

Also, my guess is they're only counting the legal places.  Queens is the land of the illegal apartment... usually people in a two floor, one family house renting out one floor as a studio.  Those go for much cheaper than market value.


The Worst Room is a tumblr about some wonderful new york apartments.
 
2013-07-11 02:29:02 PM  
Modest house, 2,000 square feet of living space, 0.25 acre lot, 20 minutes from downtown workplace, $1,307, including taxes and utilities.

I'm happy living in a tier-2 city--couldn't stand the crowds of NYC or CHI.
 
2013-07-11 02:29:16 PM  
I'm paying $1200 per month for a 400 sq. ft. apartment.....which, I'm told, is the legal minimum size in NYC.  City life sucks.
 
2013-07-11 02:31:37 PM  
urger:   /Need to find a small town that still feels like a small town and not a McSuburb. With sidewalks and a main street.

Leave the area completely.  The whole megalopolis from Boston to DC is expensive because of proximity to the big cities, and life outside the cities is unavoidably geared around commute to the cities.  Meanwhile, a lot of the country offers a lifestyle ranging from the sticks to a big city at a small fraction of the cost, simply because you can't get from there to NYC in an insane 60-mile commute.

For example, consider Pittsburgh.  It's a big enough city to have franchise sports teams and a nationally renowned symphony orchestra, a big enough economy that you can find lots of work there, it's green and clean and scenic and overall an awesome place to live, but it's also remote enough that a stereotypical 3-bedroom 2-story house in Squirrel Hill is like $180K.  You can finance something like that in 10-15 years for half what you currently pay in rent, and then you own the house.

If your job prospects allow you to leave the massive coastal corridor, there's very little reason not to; most of what you like about the city you can find elsewhere for beans.
 
2013-07-11 02:32:30 PM  
Came here for the mean vs. median enlightenment, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-07-11 02:32:53 PM  

Mugato: I've been to NY a dozen times and I don't know why anyone would actually want to live there unless they work on Wall Street or Broadway. Or if they like to brag that they're a New Yorker, which is really the #1 reason.


Most of it really is a shiathole.
 
2013-07-11 02:34:58 PM  

Lawnchair: I spent some of my childhood with relatives in Kearny/Harrison.  About an hour from lower Manhattan by PATH


Have they reduced train speeds or something?  Back when I was commuting in from the Jersey suburbs because that's where the jobs were, the Newark-WTC PATH run took about 35 minutes end to end.

Though I guess Harrison residents don't live in the abandoned factories that are immediately adjacent to their PATH station.
 
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