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(BBC)   After 14 wickets fell yesterday, any worries this would be a one-sided series have gone. Can England complete their fightback or will Australia regain the initiative? It's day two of the first Ashes test   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 85
    More: Cool, Ashes, wickets, England, McGrath, Australians, Ashes test, Shane Warne, bouncers  
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2013-07-11 06:07:17 AM  
Oh yes, this one is going green.
 
2013-07-11 08:55:01 AM  
images.sodahead.com
 
2013-07-11 08:58:48 AM  
Australia lead by 14 runs -229-9 at lunch

aaaaand your sport is dumb
 
2013-07-11 08:59:10 AM  
Time to get this kid out.
 
2013-07-11 09:00:02 AM  

MugzyBrown: Australia lead by 14 runs -229-9 at lunch

aaaaand your sport is dumb


Fark you. Cricket is a sport for gentlemen so obviously you don't understand it.
 
2013-07-11 09:00:07 AM  
Before I even have my coffee (east coast US), Australia are 9 wickets down.  Then England can't get one of the last two out for over an hour.
 
2013-07-11 09:00:54 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-11 09:01:36 AM  
It's not a real game, I swear they're all just rolling us by stringing random words together and mucking about on a field.
 
2013-07-11 09:01:48 AM  
Is there anywhere I can watch this?
 
2013-07-11 09:02:31 AM  

Barfmaker: It's not a real game, I swear they're all just rolling us by stringing random words together and mucking about on a field.


trolling, not rolling...I didn't realize it was t time.
 
2013-07-11 09:03:04 AM  

TeamEd: Is there anywhere I can watch this?


I'm sure you can watch it in England... perhaps even in Austria.
 
2013-07-11 09:03:22 AM  
how in the hell did they go over half the first innings in one day? Do they think they're playing an ODI or something?
 
2013-07-11 09:04:06 AM  

TeamEd: Is there anywhere I can watch this?


See yesterday's thread for various options...
 
2013-07-11 09:07:13 AM  

TeamEd: Is there anywhere I can watch this?


This has several sites providing streaming, and you can Google "Ashes cricket stream" and find a ton more.  http://www.cricketcountry.com/cricket-fan/posts/England-vs-Australia- A shes-2013-Free-Live-Cricket-Streaming-of-1st-Test-Day-2-at-Trent-Bridg e/post-13499/comments/page/1
 
2013-07-11 09:09:08 AM  

WhyteRaven74: TeamEd: Is there anywhere I can watch this?

This has several sites providing streaming, and you can Google "Ashes cricket stream" and find a ton more.  http://www.cricketcountry.com/cricket-fan/posts/England-vs-Australia- A shes-2013-Free-Live-Cricket-Streaming-of-1st-Test-Day-2-at-Trent-Bridg e/post-13499/comments/page/1


Thanks!
 
2013-07-11 09:13:44 AM  
Whenever I read a cricket thread my brain just assumes it's professional Calvin Ball and they're just making shiat up as they go.
 
2013-07-11 09:18:13 AM  
Where did Australia find this Agar kid!? A number 11 on 75 not out on debut. Are they just lying about him being a bowler and he's actually a very cleverly disguised top-order batsman?
 
2013-07-11 09:27:10 AM  
My old boss was a Jamaican man who was obsessed with soccer (football) and cricket.  He once tried to
explain the rules to me, and for the life of me it sounded like Fizzbin from that old STAR TREK episode.
 
2013-07-11 09:28:15 AM  

ThunderChild: Where did Australia find this Agar kid!? A number 11 on 75 not out on debut. Are they just lying about him being a bowler and he's actually a very cleverly disguised top-order batsman?


The commentators were saying that he is really more of an all-rounder, but was just put in at 11 because he's on debut. I really wouldn't be surprised if he takes it out to a century. He has been brilliant.
 
2013-07-11 09:28:56 AM  
Riveting. Let me know if a sofa materializes in the middle of the pitch.
 
2013-07-11 09:29:37 AM  
DoBeDoBeDo:  professional Calvin Ball

That would be Gaelic football, which looks like a kid mixed up soccer and rugby play books and rules http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football
 
2013-07-11 09:40:49 AM  
Agar and Hughes, highest partnership for last wicket in test cricket history. This is incredible. Hope Agar gets the century, deserves it.
 
2013-07-11 09:42:30 AM  

WhyteRaven74: TeamEd: Is there anywhere I can watch this?

This has several sites providing streaming, and you can Google "Ashes cricket stream" and find a ton more.  http://www.cricketcountry.com/cricket-fan/posts/England-vs-Australia- A shes-2013-Free-Live-Cricket-Streaming-of-1st-Test-Day-2-at-Trent-Bridg e/post-13499/comments/page/1


Thanks WhyteRaven!!
 
2013-07-11 09:48:01 AM  
Ashton Agar, 96*...come on century!!
 
2013-07-11 09:54:03 AM  
And the kid is out for 98 -- tough luck but great innings.
 
2013-07-11 09:54:45 AM  
Wow...even as an England fan, I feel sorry for him. He deserved those extra 2 runs. Fantastic knock
 
2013-07-11 09:56:07 AM  
Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.
 
2013-07-11 09:57:46 AM  
What's the the over-under on the sticky wickets per over?  I have no idea what I'm saying.
 
2013-07-11 09:57:56 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: My old boss was a Jamaican man who was obsessed with soccer (football) and cricket.  He once tried to
explain the rules to me, and for the life of me it sounded like Fizzbin from that old STAR TREK episode.


Cricket is easy to understand if you watch a Twenty20 match.  I can follow the game fine and could probably play beer league cricket, but the terms and box score still confuse me.

/American with a lot of Indian colleagues
 
2013-07-11 09:58:11 AM  

ThunderChild: Wow...even as an England fan, I feel sorry for him. He deserved those extra 2 runs. Fantastic knock


What I want to know is what was Boof thinking?  Either he'd never seen Agar bat (slack, man) or he genuinely thought that number eleven was a sensible place to put a surprise package.  Higher up the tail, he'd still have been a shock . . .
 
2013-07-11 09:58:42 AM  

TonnageVT: Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.


Yes, from England's POV it's pretty pathetic.
 
2013-07-11 09:59:58 AM  
Poor old Nathan Lyon.
 
2013-07-11 10:00:00 AM  

satanorsanta: DjangoStonereaver: My old boss was a Jamaican man who was obsessed with soccer (football) and cricket.  He once tried to
explain the rules to me, and for the life of me it sounded like Fizzbin from that old STAR TREK episode.

Cricket is easy to understand if you watch a Twenty20 match.  I can follow the game fine and could probably play beer league cricket, but the terms and box score still confuse me.

/American with a lot of Indian colleagues


I wish I could find a beer league.  I think it would be fun to play a totally new sport after you turn 40.
 
2013-07-11 10:02:28 AM  

ukexpat: TonnageVT: Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.

Yes, from England's POV it's pretty pathetic.


Depends on how you look at it, it took Australia the last two wickets to score more runs than all first 9 batsmen combined. That's also pathetic.
 
2013-07-11 10:04:03 AM  
...There's no way there is an actual conversation gonig on here...am I being trolled?
 
2013-07-11 10:13:03 AM  
So if that review showed the ball would be "just clipping" the stumps, that's not enough for a dismissal? Does the review have to show the ball would have been definitively hitting the stumps?
 
2013-07-11 10:15:27 AM  

ShadowLAnCeR: ...There's no way there is an actual conversation gonig on here...am I being trolled?


Forget what you know about baseball, and try to decipher this:

The southpaw wheels and deals, and he's playing some chin music. Number 6 steps back into his box. The ball comes in again, a slider, and the batter checks his swing. The count is now 1 and 1. Next pitch, he swings the lumber and nails this through the gap.  That's going to be a ribby.
 
2013-07-11 10:18:06 AM  

TonnageVT: ukexpat: TonnageVT: Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.

Yes, from England's POV it's pretty pathetic.

Depends on how you look at it, it took Australia the last two wickets to score more runs than all first 9 batsmen combined. That's also pathetic.


True.
 
2013-07-11 10:23:32 AM  

jonathan_L: So if that review showed the ball would be "just clipping" the stumps, that's not enough for a dismissal? Does the review have to show the ball would have been definitively hitting the stumps?


Pretty much, yes. The point of the reviews is to correct any glaringly obvious umpire mistakes - no human can perfectly predict where a ball is going and the system takes that into account, so it gives them a bit of leeway, otherwise they'd be reviewing all the time, just on the off-chance. On the other hand, if he'd been given out and the batsman had reviewed it, it would have remained out.
 
2013-07-11 10:30:18 AM  

FrancoFile: ShadowLAnCeR: ...There's no way there is an actual conversation gonig on here...am I being trolled?

Forget what you know about baseball, and try to decipher this:

The southpaw wheels and deals, and he's playing some chin music. Number 6 steps back into his box. The ball comes in again, a slider, and the batter checks his swing. The count is now 1 and 1. Next pitch, he swings the lumber and nails this through the gap.  That's going to be a ribby.


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"Sorry, skipper, my banter's not up to snuff today I'm afraid."
 
2013-07-11 10:39:24 AM  
Dammit, Root is stinking up the place...
 
2013-07-11 10:39:34 AM  
Root out!! and possibly Trott out first ball????
 
2013-07-11 10:40:59 AM  

ThunderChild: jonathan_L: So if that review showed the ball would be "just clipping" the stumps, that's not enough for a dismissal? Does the review have to show the ball would have been definitively hitting the stumps?

Pretty much, yes. The point of the reviews is to correct any glaringly obvious umpire mistakes - no human can perfectly predict where a ball is going and the system takes that into account, so it gives them a bit of leeway, otherwise they'd be reviewing all the time, just on the off-chance. On the other hand, if he'd been given out and the batsman had reviewed it, it would have remained out.


Good explanation, thanks.

/yank who loves this sport.
 
2013-07-11 10:42:26 AM  
TROTT OUT first ball!! Yes!! Go on Starc!!
 
2013-07-11 10:43:11 AM  
heh, tea.
 
2013-07-11 10:43:17 AM  
Holy crap. You know England was hoping for a good partnership from Cook and Trott.
 
2013-07-11 10:43:30 AM  

TonnageVT: Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.



Are lineups typically set as best-to-worst? I.e. you'd expect two thirds (or more!) of your runs to come from the first 4 or 5, and the rest just do what they can to not get put out without scoring? Did these two luck out and get the 'worst' bowlers first, or were they simply exceptional against everyone (might be a stupid question when we're talking about 98 and 70 runs)?

/Knows little of cricket, but finds it fascinating
 
2013-07-11 10:44:37 AM  

FrancoFile: ShadowLAnCeR: ...There's no way there is an actual conversation gonig on here...am I being trolled?

Forget what you know about baseball, and try to decipher this:

The southpaw wheels and deals, and he's playing some chin music. Number 6 steps back into his box. The ball comes in again, a slider, and the batter checks his swing. The count is now 1 and 1. Next pitch, he swings the lumber and nails this through the gap.  That's going to be a ribby.


To be fair, that's a bit overboard in the first sentence.  I haven't heard a commentator use those terms pretty much ever.  Better way, just as confusing to someone who doesn't understand baseball terms, but something a commentator might actually say: "The lefty delivers, oh, wow, high and inside, guess he didn't want him hanging over the plate".
 
2013-07-11 10:44:53 AM  

Loomy: TonnageVT: Ugh, poor lad...what an effort though, 19 years old, debut. Has the record for the highest number 11 run scorer at 98.

Australia all out for 280. They were 117-9 this morning...just think about that.


Are lineups typically set as best-to-worst? I.e. you'd expect two thirds (or more!) of your runs to come from the first 4 or 5, and the rest just do what they can to not get put out without scoring? Did these two luck out and get the 'worst' bowlers first, or were they simply exceptional against everyone (might be a stupid question when we're talking about 98 and 70 runs)?

/Knows little of cricket, but finds it fascinating


That's my understanding as well, which was why it was such a huge surprise that Agar almost hit for a century at #11.
 
2013-07-11 10:46:04 AM  

Loomy: Are lineups typically set as best-to-worst? I.e. you'd expect two thirds (or more!) of your runs to come from the first 4 or 5, and the rest just do what they can to not get put out without scoring? Did these two luck out and get the 'worst' bowlers first, or were they simply exceptional against everyone (might be a stupid question when we're talking about 98 and 70 runs)?


Yes, you want your best batsmen going first to get the most runs possible early on. In baseball terms, the middle of the order are more like clean up batters, pretty much sets the target, and the then last guys are usually the junk runs.
 
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