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2013-07-10 05:58:13 PM
friendsoflulu.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-10 06:23:33 PM
Game of Sitting Room Chairs
 
2013-07-10 06:33:00 PM
So are outlets just basing articles on Freakanomics podcasts now?  First why tipping should be banned and now this.
 
2013-07-10 07:24:10 PM

Lochsteppe: Game of Sitting Room Chairs


That's why I can't get into these books or movies.  I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.
 
2013-07-10 07:44:27 PM

Troy McClure: Lochsteppe: Game of Sitting Room Chairs

That's why I can't get into these books or movies.  I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.


That was the social system they lived with and there was no escape from it if you were a woman.  Women were judged in large measure by who they ended up getting married to.
 
2013-07-10 07:46:17 PM
This sounds more like a desparate attempt of a bunch of over-educated nerds to sound hip while trying to find new applications to justify their self-indulgent academic achievments than an attempt to better understand some crap my mom reads on the toilet.
 
2013-07-10 08:08:22 PM
Jane Austen wrote her novels during the Napoleonic wars and never once mentioned them. I find that odd.
 
2013-07-10 08:13:23 PM

Troy McClure: That's why I can't get into these books or movies. I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.


Dude. Have you ever read an Edwardian-era 'Manual for Young Ladies' on how to be a competent wife?

Because I have. It was assigned for one of my business management classes. Delegation, personal oversight, quality control...it's actually shockingly modern and contained the basic ideas for what would eventually become Lean manufacturing, Kaizen events (seriously, they tell these Lizzie Bennet types to have effing Kaizen events with the maid and cook,) and even time studies. It was freaky cool. Being Mrs. Darcy would be like being plant manager of PemberleyCorp. It even had whole sections of helpful math for calculating things like how long to cook a roast and how best to plan a budget. Totally STEM-field chick-lit porn!

That, and the sex advice contained within such books was worth the price alone. Some items, like the tables for calculating date of conception and expected date of labor for pregnancy were actually shockingly progressive and still hold up fairly well today, the rest was just hilarious.
 
2013-07-10 08:23:21 PM

Troy McClure: Lochsteppe: Game of Sitting Room Chairs

That's why I can't get into these books or movies.  I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.


Think how terrible it was for them though. It was hard to find an Englishman to marry who wasn't a flaming homosexual with putrid breath caused by the blackened lumps of hardened pus where his teeth should have been.

And if you did marry him he might bang you once before going off to India for ten years to kill the natives.

God I wish there was a Victorian period drama that was all about hot lesbian young Englishwomen. Hey PBS, you wanna help me out?
 
2013-07-10 08:31:58 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: God I wish there was a Victorian period drama that was all about hot lesbian young Englishwomen


There's at least two of those I can think of. the BBC loves costume dramas and progressive sexual mores too much to not combine them.
 
2013-07-10 08:34:29 PM
God I wish there was a Victorian period drama that was all about hot lesbian young Englishwomen. Hey PBS, you wanna help me out?

Your newsletter, sir:  I wish to subscribe.
 
2013-07-10 08:53:41 PM

Troy McClure: Lochsteppe: Game of Sitting Room Chairs

That's why I can't get into these books or movies.  I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.


Umm, they had no other options.  But the blunt truth of it was that they were the property of their fathers, and then husbands, who had sole control over any property and/or money the woman nominally held.  A 45 year old woman with a passel of kids, and perhaps a grandchild or two, was legally identical to said grandchildren, and had just about as much say in her living conditions as they did.  Not getting married meant having to live with your father until he died, then hoping some family member would let you live with them.  If not, you starved.  And society and the law would watch it happen without lifting a finger.  A more accurate statement is:

I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole legal, cultural, and economic reality is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death, and they cannot materially change that.

Austen is making the point that this sucks.  Ever notice that the women that drive you up a tree in the books are the simpering dears who go along?  and the ones that are protagonists are the ones breaking what rules they can get away with?  Austen is pointing out 'this shiat sucks", but even the protagonists have to acquiesce to falling into line because "this shiat ain't changing, either".  I'm sorry Austen wasn't able to appease you and somehow channel Jane Fonda from the future.
 
2013-07-10 08:58:29 PM

red5ish: Jane Austen wrote her novels during the Napoleonic wars and never once mentioned them. I find that odd.


It isn't like the times before the Napoleonic Wars was some great Pax Romana that had stretched out for millenia before.  Talking about war in Imperial Britain would have been like talking about how the water seemed particularly wet this month
 
2013-07-10 09:06:00 PM

Gunther: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: God I wish there was a Victorian period drama that was all about hot lesbian young Englishwomen

There's at least two of those I can think of. the BBC loves costume dramas and progressive sexual mores too much to not combine them.


Titles or GTFO
 
2013-07-10 09:27:23 PM
Pride and Prejudice Thugified

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nm61IoNdHg
 
2013-07-11 12:14:00 AM

Deja_VooDoo: God I wish there was a Victorian period drama that was all about hot lesbian young Englishwomen. Hey PBS, you wanna help me out?

Your newsletter, sir:  I wish to subscribe.


Tipping the velvet sounds exactly like your cup of tea, same goes with any other adaptation of sara waters' books.
 
2013-07-11 12:39:06 AM

SpiderQueenDemon: Troy McClure: That's why I can't get into these books or movies. I can't sympathize with women who are endlessly complaining about a life in which their sole existence is to sit around doing nothing all day from birth to death.

Dude. Have you ever read an Edwardian-era 'Manual for Young Ladies' on how to be a competent wife?

Because I have. It was assigned for one of my business management classes. Delegation, personal oversight, quality control...it's actually shockingly modern and contained the basic ideas for what would eventually become Lean manufacturing, Kaizen events (seriously, they tell these Lizzie Bennet types to have effing Kaizen events with the maid and cook,) and even time studies. It was freaky cool. Being Mrs. Darcy would be like being plant manager of PemberleyCorp. It even had whole sections of helpful math for calculating things like how long to cook a roast and how best to plan a budget. Totally STEM-field chick-lit porn!

That, and the sex advice contained within such books was worth the price alone. Some items, like the tables for calculating date of conception and expected date of labor for pregnancy were actually shockingly progressive and still hold up fairly well today, the rest was just hilarious.


You've sold me! Do you happen to remember the title of this book so I can find it on Amazon?
 
2013-07-11 01:54:20 AM

Sairobi: You've sold me! Do you happen to remember the title of this book so I can find it on Amazon?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00089DPK0/ref=dp_olp_used?ie =U TF8&condition=used

'The Ladies' Home Manual of Physical Culture and Beauty' was one of the two we read. That was the one with the most amusing budget and sex-related advice. The one with the advice on Kaizen events for servants was from the 1840s and it was on the professor's website, so the name does escape me now.
 
2013-07-11 07:17:01 AM

red5ish


Jane Austen wrote her novels during the Napoleonic wars and never once mentioned them. I find that odd.


Jane Austen did not have access to 24-hour news feeds.

Seriously, these were people for whom a 20-mile road trip was a serious undertaking. Read some of her books: peoples' lives were focused on their immediate surroundings.
 
2013-07-11 11:06:02 AM

phalamir: Austen is making the point that this sucks.  Ever notice that the women that drive you up a tree in the books are the simpering dears who go along?  and the ones that are protagonists are the ones breaking what rules they can get away with?  Austen is pointing out 'this shiat sucks", but even the protagonists have to acquiesce to falling into line because "this shiat ain't changing, either".  I'm sorry Austen wasn't able to appease you and somehow channel Jane Fonda from the future.


Yeah, I still find it hard to sympathize with people who lack the immediate threat of penury or starvation.
 
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