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(Al Jazeera)   Both Koreas hold talks on restarting Kaesong factory complex, discuss difficulties such as trusting the west on the one hand or finding South Koreans stupid enough to go back there on the other   (aljazeera.com) divider line 32
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2013-07-10 11:13:58 AM
It's Charlie Brown and Lucy all over again.
 
2013-07-10 01:39:37 PM
Pros: Cheap labor
Cons: Every couple of years, I have to take everything I have back with me on the top of my small car's hood for an indefinite period of time. Also might be murdered or imprisoned for life.

No thanks.
 
2013-07-10 02:18:38 PM

oldernell: It's Charlie Brown and Lucy all over again.


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Our glorious master plan has been leaked to the west!
 
2013-07-10 02:42:42 PM

bdub77: Pros: Cheap Slave labor


FTFY.  You think the North lets the actual workers keep anything?
 
2013-07-10 02:43:21 PM
Emotions v. Common Sense

"...  and it's emotions out in the lead coming around the turn! Pulling away inch by inch, Emotions has gained almost a full length on Common Sense. Wait! Emotions stumbles! Bounces off the rail! Common Sense closing quickly! Has the lead! It's 10 lengths to the finish line and Common Sense is expanding the lead ...

BANG

... and Common Sense goes down in a heap, throwing the jockey clear into the infield. Emotions streaks by to win the Who's Got My Factory Sweeps!

(NK sniper seen slinking away into the underbrush)
 
2013-07-10 02:46:45 PM
nothing could possibly go wrong
 
2013-07-10 02:47:38 PM
South Korea doesn't really need this factory to be up an running, does it.  I mean, the few hundreds of South Koreans it employs can be paid off, or absorbed into other factories nearby, can't they?  So why doesn't South Korea just say "You know what, fark off.  You guys are idiots and assholes.  We're done."
 
2013-07-10 02:48:06 PM
My wife and I don't purchase Korean items of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.
 
2013-07-10 02:50:06 PM
South Korea is looking for a few good pilots.
 
2013-07-10 02:51:32 PM

bdub77: Pros: Cheap labor
Cons: Every couple of years, I have to take everything I have back with me on the top of my small car's hood for an indefinite period of time. Also might be murdered or imprisoned for life.

No thanks.


Did not know about the murder/prison thing for the South Koreans. Yeah, that would really put a damper on going to work in the morning.
 
2013-07-10 02:58:18 PM
I would think SK would've realized by now to STAY THE FARK OUT of NK by all means. like aquapope said, there HAS to be other SK factories to work at.
 
2013-07-10 02:58:58 PM

uncleacid: South Korea is looking for a few good pilots.


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Also, new president wanted in Worst Korea thanks to a dirty political involvement from the  NIS.
 
2013-07-10 03:19:54 PM

ChipNASA: My wife and I don't purchase Korean items of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


After learning a bit of the context of this, please let me say that you're magnificent.
 
2013-07-10 03:23:02 PM
What, exactly, do they DO there? I've never owned anything that said 'Made in Best Korea.' Surely, they must be producing something?
 
2013-07-10 03:24:01 PM
I wonder how much money this latest temper tantrum cost? And it will happen again, and again. And possibly again.
 
2013-07-10 03:28:40 PM

Aquapope: South Korea doesn't really need this factory to be up an running, does it.  I mean, the few hundreds of South Koreans it employs can be paid off, or absorbed into other factories nearby, can't they?  So why doesn't South Korea just say "You know what, fark off.  You guys are idiots and assholes.  We're done."


You're right, but they do want to de-escalate the tensions.  Kaesong seems to be the "canary in the mine" as it relates to Best/Worst Korea relations, and it's in SK's best interest to bring tensions back down and start appearing to play nice with their NK neighbors.
 
2013-07-10 03:31:18 PM
Anyone's best guess is that this is South Korea's best olive branch and they have great empathy for citizens suffering under North Korean rule.  It's also probably an avenue for light espionage-like communication and interaction between the 2 sides.
 
2013-07-10 03:34:51 PM
I still think S. Korea should show up to the talks only to storm out as soon as the north representative sits down. Almost immediately afterwards issue a press release stating that South Korea cannot negotiate with this kind of offensive behavior...
 
2013-07-10 03:36:22 PM

JPSimonetti: What, exactly, do they DO there? I've never owned anything that said 'Made in Best Korea.' Surely, they must be producing something?


They make all kinds of stuff. I think there are over 100 South Korean factories there. I think (on my phone haven't looke it up) that America can't actualy import the stuff. But kias and some Korean TVs almost certainly have some parts that were made there.
 
2013-07-10 03:47:35 PM

Aquapope: South Korea doesn't really need this factory to be up an running, does it.  I mean, the few hundreds of South Koreans it employs can be paid off, or absorbed into other factories nearby, can't they?  So why doesn't South Korea just say "You know what, fark off.  You guys are idiots and assholes.  We're done."


Employment for South Koreans isn't the issue. South Korea doesn't NEED Kaesong, but the cheap production costs are nice. It's like their own little Mexico.
 
2013-07-10 03:48:28 PM
This is more due to pressure from the SK companies trying to get their equipment in use/back before the norks steal or strip it. Would post links but I'm on mobile. Check out dailynk, they've been all over this.
 
2013-07-10 03:49:00 PM
Why on God's Green Earth would you even have talks of this nature after North Korea cancelled the Armistice and you're in a technical State of War?

It would seem the reasonable thing would be to say that these talks are not possible until the Armistice is reinstated.
 
2013-07-10 03:58:35 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Anyone's best guess is that this is South Korea's best olive branch and they have great empathy for citizens suffering under North Korean rule.  It's also probably an avenue for light espionage-like communication and interaction between the 2 sides.


Have you ever had a kid brother? One you really can't get rid of? You tolerate the existence of said brother; because, it would be illegal to murder him. No matter how much he annoys you; you're kind of stuck with him.

/ that's how the south sees the north
 
2013-07-10 04:18:10 PM

JohnAnnArbor: bdub77: Pros: Cheap Slave labor

FTFY.  You think the North lets the actual workers keep anything?


They're provided an apartment, food, education for their children, free healthcare (whatever that means in NK) + access to basic necesities (clothes. Either money for public transport, or free public transport).

Obviously they're not free, but still better off than many other people in the world, and in particular in North Korea.
 
2013-07-10 04:55:43 PM
now with new and improved headline?
 
2013-07-10 05:35:54 PM
I'd rather be a bum in Tijuana than live in North Korea.
 
2013-07-10 06:34:33 PM

Aquapope: South Korea doesn't really need this factory to be up an running, does it.  I mean, the few hundreds of South Koreans it employs can be paid off, or absorbed into other factories nearby, can't they?  So why doesn't South Korea just say "You know what, fark off.  You guys are idiots and assholes.  We're done."


Because(as we go over in all of these threads) the only end game scenerio for N. Korea that doesn't result in tens of thousands of deaths from starvation and/or war or the near bankruptcy of China or S. Korea from millions of refugees(or all of the above) is to drag Best Korea kicking and screaming into the 21st century and get them to liberalize their social and economic policies so that they can eventually take care of their own people and join the rest of the world. The Kaesong factory complex is a tiny step forward towards doing that.
 
2013-07-10 06:43:04 PM
I don't see why the world just doesn't seal them off in their little shiathole corner and let them either rise or starve to death to the last man. These brainwashed, deluded mofos aren't worth the aggravation.
 
2013-07-10 06:53:36 PM

iheartscotch: Nana's Vibrator: Anyone's best guess is that this is South Korea's best olive branch and they have great empathy for citizens suffering under North Korean rule.  It's also probably an avenue for light espionage-like communication and interaction between the 2 sides.

Have you ever had a kid brother? One you really can't get rid of? You tolerate the existence of said brother; because, it would be illegal to murder him. No matter how much he annoys you; you're kind of stuck with him.

/ that's how the south sees the north


And Koreans put a big emphasis on family. When the peninsula was militarily split into North Korean and South Korea, families were separated permanently by force. One of the reasons South Korea really wants reunification is to reunify all those families, so it's not just a military/political thing. That's why they keep putting out that olive branch, time and again.
 
2013-07-10 06:56:22 PM

WordyGrrl: iheartscotch: Nana's Vibrator: Anyone's best guess is that this is South Korea's best olive branch and they have great empathy for citizens suffering under North Korean rule.  It's also probably an avenue for light espionage-like communication and interaction between the 2 sides.

Have you ever had a kid brother? One you really can't get rid of? You tolerate the existence of said brother; because, it would be illegal to murder him. No matter how much he annoys you; you're kind of stuck with him.

/ that's how the south sees the north

And Koreans put a big emphasis on family. When the peninsula was militarily split into North Korean and South Korea, families were separated permanently by force. One of the reasons South Korea really wants reunification is to reunify all those families, so it's not just a military/political thing. That's why they keep putting out that olive branch, time and again.


None of those family members will be anywhere near sane. Let em go, man. They're gone.
 
2013-07-10 08:00:24 PM

Evil High Priest: WordyGrrl: And Koreans put a big emphasis on family. When the peninsula was militarily split into North Korean and South Korea, families were separated permanently by force. One of the reasons South Korea really wants reunification is to reunify all those families, so it's not just a military/political thing. That's why they keep putting out that olive branch, time and again.

None of those family members will be anywhere near sane. Let em go, man. They're gone.


Sadly, this. Read a article a while back about some family members (some from each side) who were briefly reunited. The folks from South Korea were stunned and heartbroken about how brainwashed their NK relatives had become, but they're still family...
 
2013-07-11 02:31:39 AM
There's an old saying in South Korea - I know it's in North Korea, probably in South Korea - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.
 
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