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(PBS)   Feeling good about yourself because your concern about "blood diamonds" caused you to forego the traditional engagement ring and opt for a plain gold band instead? Ummm, yeah, about that gold   (pbs.org) divider line 50
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2013-07-10 03:03:06 PM  
5 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada. Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design. And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver. Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet. And the rings looked amazing.


Inherited silver is really an awesome way to go. My Grandma had some beloved old family silverware from the late 1800s which got stolen when I was in grade school, and by the time the cops recovered it from the teenage junkie down the road, it was dented and scratched to hell, some of the knives had the blades snapped off, part of it had been melted into a nuggety mess...it wasn't good.

So she has been calmly parceling it out to the various grandsons and granddaughters' fiances over the years, having a cross necklace made for a relative's fortieth birthday, gifts for milestone wedding anniversaries, monogrammed cufflinks for the boys and simple silver pendants with a religious symbol for the girls when they graduate from college...all kinds of things. She has a regular jeweler who does most of the work and slowly but surely, the family silver is being parceled out to the actual family.

When my cousin informed Grandma as a college senior that she was converting to marry her Jewish fiance, the dear old lady simply went to her jeweler and had said cousin's graduation pendant done as a Star of David, because family means family. My atheist cousin admitted to Grandma that she doesn't believe in a God and Grandma accepted it calmly and rationally, then went a little batshiat in private because she couldn't figure out how the hell to manage cousin's graduation necklace. Eventually it was decided to have it made up as a little mortar and pestle, to reflect said cousin's majoring in pharmacy, and all was well...until said cousin got engaged to a nice atheist boy from the Physics department. Grandma had to talk him into accepting family-silver wedding rings, and since the traditional Scripture engraving inside simply wouldn't do, she went online and found over a hundred quotes on the subject of love and commitment by secular authors, including one from Dr. Richard Feynman that she particularly liked and which the happy couple wound up choosing.

Everyone in the family save my baby goddaughter-to-be, who is two days old today, has something made from the family silver. Grandma will be bestowing a little cross pendant at her christening this Sunday, which she had made big enough for her to wear all her life, and which will do for the most special of occasions until she grows up. Grandma decided to have it made along the plan of the graduation pendants because living until this latest baby is in her twenties isn't something she expects to do, but she wanted to be sure that said baby had something. I'm not sure how much of the original silver she has left (it was originally a service for twelve, complete with marrow scoops and fish knives and all kinds of arcane tableware only Miss Manners would recognize,) but with the way she's managed it, instead of a single heirloom over which everyone would fight, she's created a splendid tradition that somehow covers everyone.
2013-07-10 02:43:19 PM  
4 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.



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^children mine workers^


The adults have taken up arms before. Guess how that worked out for them...
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^mine workers on strike^

/My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.
2013-07-10 12:53:42 PM  
4 votes:
And emeralds come from Colombia, and rubies come from Burman, and sapphires come from Pakistan. Most metal, plastic and electronic things around us are made in horrible conditions.  Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.
2013-07-10 02:06:12 PM  
3 votes:

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


CSB:  My great grandparents did the same.  But Grammy secretly squirreled away enough money to get Pappy a gold monogrammed ring.  One day he lost it while working on a car in the back yard.  It was lost for decades.  He found it while gardening many a year later, and the monogram had been worn off.  He put it back on and never took it off till the day he died.

Grandma gave it to me when I graduated high school and asked me if I wanted "H" (family name initial) or another monogram put back on to it.  I told her no.  I wanted to wear the ring I remember Pappy wearing.
2013-07-10 01:47:29 PM  
3 votes:
Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.
2013-07-10 01:27:29 PM  
3 votes:
My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.
2013-07-10 01:21:13 PM  
3 votes:
The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.
2013-07-10 03:33:34 PM  
2 votes:
Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.
2013-07-10 03:24:08 PM  
2 votes:

basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.


Well sure, how else can they be imbued with power?


Say what you like about child-labor, but at least they're not growing obese in front of mind-numbing video games.

And this, from the article: Speaking in his native dialect, Karim smiles when he is asked what he wants to do with his life. "I came here to make money," he says. "My dream is to make enough money so I don't have to do this anymore."

Yeah, I say the same goddamn thing every goddamn morning when I come to work.
2013-07-10 03:21:07 PM  
2 votes:
Not like most of those kids have schools to go to instead.

/what is the number one way to develop a real economy?  Government run universal education, of course.  But that's "socialism" for the Derpists.
2013-07-10 02:27:18 PM  
2 votes:
Actually, I feel good myself because I'm not dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks that are only "valuable" because some people are dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks.

If I just wanted a geological mechanism for completely wasting my money I'd just dig a hole and bury it. At least then I'd get some exercise.
2013-07-10 02:25:37 PM  
2 votes:

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


hell we had almost no extra money, and neither of us are big on wearing jewelry, so i bought my wife's engagement and wedding rings for a total of around $50 from avon...an antique-design silver with cubic zirconia. she has gotten a LOT of compliments from people unaware that they weren't "real". she loves her rings and that's all that matters.

the morning of our wedding day i went to walmart and bought myself a simple titanium band for about $45. i never wear it anymore because i seriously hate wearing jewelry, so i'm getting a tattoo in its place when i can afford something so non-essential.
2013-07-10 02:25:24 PM  
2 votes:

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


Best Uppity, Pretentious, Fark Comment Ever.

I am SO stealing this for later.
2013-07-10 02:23:53 PM  
2 votes:
Don't like it? Buy Alaskan gold.

/Yes it can be hard to tell where gold comes from.
//Deal with an Alaskan company.
2013-07-10 02:01:50 PM  
2 votes:

basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.


Easy there, Thanos.

i.annihil.us
2013-07-11 04:20:23 PM  
1 votes:

BATMANATEE: If you must have diamonds, just buy Canadian. All we do is fark over the <B>Natives</B> and Territories for their fair share of the mineral rights, so It's more of a <B>twisted arm</B> diamond than a blood diamond. Also, they have little polar bears etched on 'em!


Was that an Indian burn reference?  If so, nice.
2013-07-10 11:20:44 PM  
1 votes:

limeyfellow: On the good side, slave labour being used to mine gold made Pat Robertson lots and lots of money.


Im sure Pat has no qualms about that.
2013-07-10 10:01:34 PM  
1 votes:
On the good side, slave labour being used to mine gold made Pat Robertson lots and lots of money.
2013-07-10 06:32:00 PM  
1 votes:

MutantMotherMouse: We place more value on things than lives.


I think the vast quantities of both things and lives is evidence that we overvalue both.
2013-07-10 05:47:01 PM  
1 votes:
Buy Canadian.

Blood and conflict free diamonds and gold, certified under the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme since 2002. Not perfect, perhaps, but the best we've got.
2013-07-10 05:05:04 PM  
1 votes:

browntimmy: Let's categorize the types of people who are impressed by big shiny rocks. We have the Icy Hot Stuntaz, the mentally handicapped, small children, cartoon cat burglars, and a large percentage of women. One of these groups might want to think about distancing themselves from the others.


Probably kids.

Small things are choking hazards.
2013-07-10 04:54:49 PM  
1 votes:
If you must have diamonds, just buy Canadian. All we do is fark over the Natives and Territories for their fair share of the mineral rights, so It's more of a twisted arm diamond than a blood diamond. Also, they have little polar bears etched on 'em!
2013-07-10 04:09:36 PM  
1 votes:
My wife got no diamonds. I gave her the wedding band from my great-great-grandmother, 130 years old, or thereabouts.  The ring, that is.  Guess she's a couple years older.  Hers and my great-great-grandfather's names and wedding date engraved inside, almost illegible.

She was happy and she likes it.  I like her.

CapeFearCadaver: I still better get a goddamn diamond.


You sound like you'll be disappointed. Frequently.
2013-07-10 03:35:05 PM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


Ditto. No pre-wedding crap. We bought our wedding bands several months after the wedding ('cause who f*cking cares, right?), and they're made out of solid tungsten carbide. For you downtrodden geek-flap calculator-f*cks out there, that's "WC" in molecular formula-speak.

/King F*ck of Sh*t Island
2013-07-10 03:18:40 PM  
1 votes:

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.


Scab Diamonds. I like it.
2013-07-10 03:16:55 PM  
1 votes:

Bonobo62: To hell with jewelry. I eliminated the middleman and bought my fiancee a little slave boy.


Just so you know, I'm posting this on my Facebook and pretending I made it up
2013-07-10 03:15:23 PM  
1 votes:

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?


The point, as I understand it, is that you can participate in the diminution of demand for blood items currently in production, but that you cannot diminish demand for blood items in days past.  If people become suddenly disinterested in blood items today, folks may stop dying.  But nothing can stop a dead person from dying.
2013-07-10 03:15:06 PM  
1 votes:
Ever since I've learned of their existence, it's been clear that the only wedding band for me is one made of meteorite and dinosaur bone.
2013-07-10 03:01:30 PM  
1 votes:
Technically, women who demand a diamond engagement ring are even worse than the assholes who want endangered rhino horn to give them magic sexual powers.
2013-07-10 03:00:32 PM  
1 votes:
GreenKarat.

Recycled platinum with a lab-made sapphire.  Reasonably comparable prices, and they'll do engraved designs as well.
2013-07-10 02:58:38 PM  
1 votes:

Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?
2013-07-10 02:58:34 PM  
1 votes:
The precious raw metals we use in jewelry though while twittastic pale in comparison in both size and scope to their need and use in electronic devices.

So think about that every time you upgrade your phone to the new and fantastic that you helped contribute to child labor in some far off nation.
2013-07-10 02:55:00 PM  
1 votes:

Ego edo infantia cattus: Smeggy Smurf: The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.


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^children mine workers^


The adults have taken up arms before. Guess how that worked out for them...
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^mine workers on strike^

/My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.


They must not have been persistent enough.  If the police shot every mine worker there wouldn't be anyone left to mine.

/welcome to fark, where sociopathy is the norm.
2013-07-10 02:51:07 PM  
1 votes:
My wife and I both have Tungsten Carbide rings that cost a total of $20, shipped with engravings. I don't need precious metals, stones, minerals, etc.

/getting a kick, etc.
2013-07-10 02:36:44 PM  
1 votes:

skozlaw: Actually, I feel good myself because I'm not dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks that are only "valuable" because some people are dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks.

If I just wanted a geological mechanism for completely wasting my money I'd just dig a hole and bury it. At least then I'd get some exercise.


Stop liking what I don't like!
2013-07-10 02:33:22 PM  
1 votes:

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada.  Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design.   And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver.  Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet.  And the rings looked amazing.
2013-07-10 02:30:26 PM  
1 votes:

skinink: The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.


My friend's SO works for a county records office.  He said, without hyperbole, that easily over half of the divorce papers he processed had marriage records from Clark County, NV.  We're in Michigan.

/and the most popular locations for folks fleeing child support or alimony were Florida, Texas, and Mississippi
//interesting trivia yet nothing terribly surprising about any of that
2013-07-10 02:30:23 PM  
1 votes:
Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.
2013-07-10 02:30:09 PM  
1 votes:
That's why I only buy jewelry made from gold that was mined by Orcs.

classic.battle.net

/something need doing?
2013-07-10 02:26:17 PM  
1 votes:
The people living in the area of the world's largest gold mine have it even worse.
2013-07-10 02:24:56 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-07-10 02:23:33 PM  
1 votes:
The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.
2013-07-10 02:22:01 PM  
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.


if there were no cattle harmed then all you have is a shiny stone...have a herd of cattle slaughtered along with mining your ring then you have basically become the Green Lantern
2013-07-10 02:20:44 PM  
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.


I was disappointed that there was no actual blood in the diamonds...
2013-07-10 02:20:37 PM  
1 votes:
The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.
2013-07-10 02:18:10 PM  
1 votes:
I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.
2013-07-10 02:16:53 PM  
1 votes:
It's great how they use methods to mine the gold that throw away almost half of it...
2013-07-10 01:54:53 PM  
1 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: CapeFearCadaver: Pray 4 Mojo: The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.

I still better get a goddamn diamond.

Still after my credit card number huh?


One of these days.... Pray 4 Mojo, one of these days.
2013-07-10 01:45:29 PM  
1 votes:

CapeFearCadaver: Pray 4 Mojo: The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.

I still better get a goddamn diamond.


Still after my credit card number huh?
2013-07-10 01:14:15 PM  
1 votes:

God Is My Co-Pirate: And emeralds come from Colombia, and rubies come from Burman, and sapphires come from Pakistan. Most metal, plastic and electronic things around us are made in horrible conditions.  Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.


True, can't make most modern electronics without Tantalum, and you REALLY don't want to know the conditions its mined under. The average Tanatlum miner would probably cheerfully kill a family member just to swap places with a worker at FoxConn
 
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