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(PBS)   Feeling good about yourself because your concern about "blood diamonds" caused you to forego the traditional engagement ring and opt for a plain gold band instead? Ummm, yeah, about that gold   (pbs.org) divider line 162
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2013-07-10 12:53:42 PM  
And emeralds come from Colombia, and rubies come from Burman, and sapphires come from Pakistan. Most metal, plastic and electronic things around us are made in horrible conditions.  Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.
 
2013-07-10 01:14:15 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: And emeralds come from Colombia, and rubies come from Burman, and sapphires come from Pakistan. Most metal, plastic and electronic things around us are made in horrible conditions.  Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.


True, can't make most modern electronics without Tantalum, and you REALLY don't want to know the conditions its mined under. The average Tanatlum miner would probably cheerfully kill a family member just to swap places with a worker at FoxConn
 
2013-07-10 01:21:13 PM  
The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.
 
2013-07-10 01:21:19 PM  
I only buy organic free trade gold.
 
2013-07-10 01:23:02 PM  
Also:

web.gracesgraphics.com

Obligatory.
 
2013-07-10 01:27:29 PM  
My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.
 
2013-07-10 01:33:38 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.


I still better get a goddamn diamond.
 
2013-07-10 01:34:46 PM  
I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.
 
2013-07-10 01:45:29 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Pray 4 Mojo: The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.

I still better get a goddamn diamond.


Still after my credit card number huh?
 
2013-07-10 01:47:29 PM  
Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.
 
2013-07-10 01:54:53 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: CapeFearCadaver: Pray 4 Mojo: The gold band is traditional subby.

The diamond ring is a pretty new thing... relatively speaking... and a marketing fabrication.

I still better get a goddamn diamond.

Still after my credit card number huh?


One of these days.... Pray 4 Mojo, one of these days.
 
2013-07-10 02:01:50 PM  

basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.


Easy there, Thanos.

i.annihil.us
 
2013-07-10 02:06:12 PM  

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


CSB:  My great grandparents did the same.  But Grammy secretly squirreled away enough money to get Pappy a gold monogrammed ring.  One day he lost it while working on a car in the back yard.  It was lost for decades.  He found it while gardening many a year later, and the monogram had been worn off.  He put it back on and never took it off till the day he died.

Grandma gave it to me when I graduated high school and asked me if I wanted "H" (family name initial) or another monogram put back on to it.  I told her no.  I wanted to wear the ring I remember Pappy wearing.
 
2013-07-10 02:16:53 PM  
It's great how they use methods to mine the gold that throw away almost half of it...
 
2013-07-10 02:18:10 PM  
I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.
 
2013-07-10 02:20:37 PM  
The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.
 
2013-07-10 02:20:44 PM  

WhippingBoy: I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.


I was disappointed that there was no actual blood in the diamonds...
 
2013-07-10 02:21:13 PM  

Diogenes: basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.

Easy there, Thanos.

[i.annihil.us image 406x384]


Consumed Souls in the Soul Gem? The one place in the entire multiverse where Adam Warlock cracked a smile. Admittedly, just one, but that's one more than everywhere else put together.

Also, I love using the abuse of people worldwise as a reason to not buy diamonds, now gold, etc. Just human-trafficking free baby seal pelts! Oops, uh, edit button. Where's the edit button?
 
2013-07-10 02:21:50 PM  

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


My GF and I see eye to eye on almost everything. And she will nod her head in agreement when I tell her about how she has been manipulated to think that diamonds are valuable. And she will agree with me that most diamond store ads are demeaning to both men and women (a guy is a chump not worth marrying if he does not buy a gigantic diamond, and a women's self worth is tied to how big and flashy the diamond is). I think we are in agreement.

But then she sees sparkle in a Debeers ad on TV and reverts back to a "must have" mindset. It's very frustrating when staring down the barrel of engagement. I want to do it, but I don't want to buy the ring.
 
2013-07-10 02:22:01 PM  

WhippingBoy: I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.


if there were no cattle harmed then all you have is a shiny stone...have a herd of cattle slaughtered along with mining your ring then you have basically become the Green Lantern
 
2013-07-10 02:23:33 PM  
The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.
 
2013-07-10 02:23:53 PM  
Don't like it? Buy Alaskan gold.

/Yes it can be hard to tell where gold comes from.
//Deal with an Alaskan company.
 
2013-07-10 02:24:33 PM  

skinink: The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.


You sir, are a got dang job creator, and deserve a significant tax break!
 
2013-07-10 02:24:40 PM  
But look at those abs! I don't feel bad for that kid at all.

newshour.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-07-10 02:24:56 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-10 02:25:24 PM  

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


Best Uppity, Pretentious, Fark Comment Ever.

I am SO stealing this for later.
 
2013-07-10 02:25:37 PM  

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


hell we had almost no extra money, and neither of us are big on wearing jewelry, so i bought my wife's engagement and wedding rings for a total of around $50 from avon...an antique-design silver with cubic zirconia. she has gotten a LOT of compliments from people unaware that they weren't "real". she loves her rings and that's all that matters.

the morning of our wedding day i went to walmart and bought myself a simple titanium band for about $45. i never wear it anymore because i seriously hate wearing jewelry, so i'm getting a tattoo in its place when i can afford something so non-essential.
 
2013-07-10 02:25:44 PM  
I always thought it would be an interesting experiment to dress like a rich douchenozzle and pretend to go diamond shopping in Beverly Hills or the South Coast Plaza and demand that the rocks I purchase have at least one death associated with them. I'd pay 33% over sticker if it was a child.

I wonder how many bites I'd get?
 
2013-07-10 02:25:45 PM  
doesn't work in mines
blogs.villagevoice.com
 
2013-07-10 02:26:17 PM  
The people living in the area of the world's largest gold mine have it even worse.
 
2013-07-10 02:26:25 PM  
I don't have any desire or urge to get married unless it makes sense legally (if we were gonna start looking to adopt a kid, for example) or financially.

But if we do, the SO damn well knows I want an affordable antique ring (definitely sans diamond) or heirloom if he wants to get me anything at all.  My Dad was an only child so I presume whatever my grandma may have had is in his possession somewhere, but I know neither of them had diamond anything anyway.

Basically,

Diogenes: Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.

CSB:  My great grandparents did the same.  But Grammy secretly squirreled away enough money to get Pappy a gold monogrammed ring.  One day he lost it while working on a car in the back yard.  It was lost for decades.  He found it while gardening many a year later, and the monogram had been worn off.  He put it back on and never took it off till the day he died.

Grandma gave it to me when I graduated high school and asked me if I wanted "H" (family name initial) or another monogram put back on to it.  I told her no.  I wanted to wear the ring I remember Pappy wearing.


This and that.

/don't even have a HS or College ring, although my Mom was kind of pissed I was so adamant about her not buying me either
//my HS letterman's jacket at least kept me warm, what would a ring bought from a catalog do?
 
2013-07-10 02:26:59 PM  

Diogenes: basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.

Easy there, Thanos.

[i.annihil.us image 406x384]


SOON

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-10 02:27:18 PM  
Actually, I feel good myself because I'm not dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks that are only "valuable" because some people are dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks.

If I just wanted a geological mechanism for completely wasting my money I'd just dig a hole and bury it. At least then I'd get some exercise.
 
2013-07-10 02:27:37 PM  
I only get my precious gold from crazed prospectors that speak authentic frontier gibberish.
 
2013-07-10 02:28:18 PM  
To hell with jewelry. I eliminated the middleman and bought my fiancee a little slave boy.
 
2013-07-10 02:30:03 PM  
Diogenes:
Grandma gave it to me when I graduated high school and asked me if I wanted "H" (family name initial) or another monogram put back on to it.  I told her no.  I wanted to wear the ring I remember Pappy wearing.

What if pappy was evil?
 
2013-07-10 02:30:09 PM  
That's why I only buy jewelry made from gold that was mined by Orcs.

classic.battle.net

/something need doing?
 
2013-07-10 02:30:18 PM  

Bonobo62: To hell with jewelry. I eliminated the middleman and bought my fiancee a little slave boy.


You're supposed to knock her up and she makes the little slave labor
 
2013-07-10 02:30:23 PM  
Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.
 
2013-07-10 02:30:26 PM  

skinink: The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.


My friend's SO works for a county records office.  He said, without hyperbole, that easily over half of the divorce papers he processed had marriage records from Clark County, NV.  We're in Michigan.

/and the most popular locations for folks fleeing child support or alimony were Florida, Texas, and Mississippi
//interesting trivia yet nothing terribly surprising about any of that
 
2013-07-10 02:33:22 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada.  Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design.   And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver.  Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet.  And the rings looked amazing.
 
2013-07-10 02:36:41 PM  

WhippingBoy: I specifically DEMANDED blood diamonds for my wife's engagement ring. It came with a notarized certificate assuring me that three underprivileged children, a goat, and three puppies died to provide me with a diamond.


Did you specify that the gold had to come from Nazi era bars that where made from the dental gold of holocaust victims? And did they have a mass spectometer reading to show it had enough mercury tobe dental gold?
 
2013-07-10 02:36:44 PM  

skozlaw: Actually, I feel good myself because I'm not dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks that are only "valuable" because some people are dumb enough to pay hard-earned money for silly-looking rocks.

If I just wanted a geological mechanism for completely wasting my money I'd just dig a hole and bury it. At least then I'd get some exercise.


Stop liking what I don't like!
 
2013-07-10 02:42:51 PM  
"Diamonds...that'll shut her up..."
 
2013-07-10 02:43:19 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.



pulitzercenter.org
www.ilo.org
1.bp.blogspot.com
^children mine workers^


The adults have taken up arms before. Guess how that worked out for them...
i.huffpost.com
a57.foxnews.com
i.usatoday.net
^mine workers on strike^

/My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.
 
2013-07-10 02:44:34 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: Diogenes:
Grandma gave it to me when I graduated high school and asked me if I wanted "H" (family name initial) or another monogram put back on to it.  I told her no.  I wanted to wear the ring I remember Pappy wearing.

What if pappy was evil?


Oh, he was.  I turn into a supervillain whenever I put the thing on.
 
2013-07-10 02:47:08 PM  
Tantalum has volumetric efficiency at a certain intermediate frequency range.  Co-fired ceramics are steadily moving into this regime.
 
2013-07-10 02:49:02 PM  
Platinum and moissonite.
 
2013-07-10 02:49:24 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


It is tainted because I keep it in my chones.
 
2013-07-10 02:51:07 PM  
My wife and I both have Tungsten Carbide rings that cost a total of $20, shipped with engravings. I don't need precious metals, stones, minerals, etc.

/getting a kick, etc.
 
2013-07-10 02:51:48 PM  
skozlaw:
If I just wanted a geological mechanism for completely wasting my money I'd just dig a hole and bury it. At least then I'd get some exercise.

"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."  - Warren Buffett
 
2013-07-10 02:55:00 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Smeggy Smurf: The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.


[pulitzercenter.org image 279x190]
[www.ilo.org image 420x278]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 300x225]
^children mine workers^


The adults have taken up arms before. Guess how that worked out for them...
[i.huffpost.com image 850x515]
[a57.foxnews.com image 660x371]
[i.usatoday.net image 490x360]
^mine workers on strike^

/My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.


They must not have been persistent enough.  If the police shot every mine worker there wouldn't be anyone left to mine.

/welcome to fark, where sociopathy is the norm.
 
2013-07-10 02:56:29 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

They're diamonds!
 
2013-07-10 02:58:34 PM  
The precious raw metals we use in jewelry though while twittastic pale in comparison in both size and scope to their need and use in electronic devices.

So think about that every time you upgrade your phone to the new and fantastic that you helped contribute to child labor in some far off nation.
 
2013-07-10 02:58:38 PM  

Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?
 
2013-07-10 03:00:32 PM  
GreenKarat.

Recycled platinum with a lab-made sapphire.  Reasonably comparable prices, and they'll do engraved designs as well.
 
2013-07-10 03:01:30 PM  
Technically, women who demand a diamond engagement ring are even worse than the assholes who want endangered rhino horn to give them magic sexual powers.
 
2013-07-10 03:02:42 PM  
The great thing about not being a hippie is not having to feel guilty about everything.  Well, one of the great things, that is.
 
2013-07-10 03:03:06 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada. Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design. And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver. Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet. And the rings looked amazing.


Inherited silver is really an awesome way to go. My Grandma had some beloved old family silverware from the late 1800s which got stolen when I was in grade school, and by the time the cops recovered it from the teenage junkie down the road, it was dented and scratched to hell, some of the knives had the blades snapped off, part of it had been melted into a nuggety mess...it wasn't good.

So she has been calmly parceling it out to the various grandsons and granddaughters' fiances over the years, having a cross necklace made for a relative's fortieth birthday, gifts for milestone wedding anniversaries, monogrammed cufflinks for the boys and simple silver pendants with a religious symbol for the girls when they graduate from college...all kinds of things. She has a regular jeweler who does most of the work and slowly but surely, the family silver is being parceled out to the actual family.

When my cousin informed Grandma as a college senior that she was converting to marry her Jewish fiance, the dear old lady simply went to her jeweler and had said cousin's graduation pendant done as a Star of David, because family means family. My atheist cousin admitted to Grandma that she doesn't believe in a God and Grandma accepted it calmly and rationally, then went a little batshiat in private because she couldn't figure out how the hell to manage cousin's graduation necklace. Eventually it was decided to have it made up as a little mortar and pestle, to reflect said cousin's majoring in pharmacy, and all was well...until said cousin got engaged to a nice atheist boy from the Physics department. Grandma had to talk him into accepting family-silver wedding rings, and since the traditional Scripture engraving inside simply wouldn't do, she went online and found over a hundred quotes on the subject of love and commitment by secular authors, including one from Dr. Richard Feynman that she particularly liked and which the happy couple wound up choosing.

Everyone in the family save my baby goddaughter-to-be, who is two days old today, has something made from the family silver. Grandma will be bestowing a little cross pendant at her christening this Sunday, which she had made big enough for her to wear all her life, and which will do for the most special of occasions until she grows up. Grandma decided to have it made along the plan of the graduation pendants because living until this latest baby is in her twenties isn't something she expects to do, but she wanted to be sure that said baby had something. I'm not sure how much of the original silver she has left (it was originally a service for twelve, complete with marrow scoops and fish knives and all kinds of arcane tableware only Miss Manners would recognize,) but with the way she's managed it, instead of a single heirloom over which everyone would fight, she's created a splendid tradition that somehow covers everyone.
 
2013-07-10 03:03:51 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Stop liking what I don't like!


I don't think you know how that meme works.
 
2013-07-10 03:07:41 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.


Agreed. Mrs Clam and I both inherited our grandmothers' diamond rings. She gets to feel smug for not wasting money and wearing authentic misery diamonds at the same time.
 
2013-07-10 03:11:21 PM  

STRYPERSWINE: The great thing about not being a hippie is not having to feel guilty about everything.  Well, one of the great things, that is.


This!

Bought Mrs. Kimpak a diamond engagement and wedding ring, well within my budget.  I don't feel one bit guilty.
 
2013-07-10 03:15:06 PM  
Ever since I've learned of their existence, it's been clear that the only wedding band for me is one made of meteorite and dinosaur bone.
 
2013-07-10 03:15:23 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?


The point, as I understand it, is that you can participate in the diminution of demand for blood items currently in production, but that you cannot diminish demand for blood items in days past.  If people become suddenly disinterested in blood items today, folks may stop dying.  But nothing can stop a dead person from dying.
 
2013-07-10 03:16:42 PM  
duh that's why my ring is made of white gold not black gold
 
2013-07-10 03:16:55 PM  

Bonobo62: To hell with jewelry. I eliminated the middleman and bought my fiancee a little slave boy.


Just so you know, I'm posting this on my Facebook and pretending I made it up
 
2013-07-10 03:18:40 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.


Scab Diamonds. I like it.
 
2013-07-10 03:21:07 PM  
Not like most of those kids have schools to go to instead.

/what is the number one way to develop a real economy?  Government run universal education, of course.  But that's "socialism" for the Derpists.
 
2013-07-10 03:21:51 PM  
We have tattooed ring fingers.

Can't yank this shiat off and throw it at him in a fight... well I suppose I could, it would definitely get a message across.
 
2013-07-10 03:23:24 PM  

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


+1, would buy from again.
 
2013-07-10 03:24:08 PM  

basemetal: I need for all of my precious stones and metals to have as many consumed souls as possible.


Well sure, how else can they be imbued with power?


Say what you like about child-labor, but at least they're not growing obese in front of mind-numbing video games.

And this, from the article: Speaking in his native dialect, Karim smiles when he is asked what he wants to do with his life. "I came here to make money," he says. "My dream is to make enough money so I don't have to do this anymore."

Yeah, I say the same goddamn thing every goddamn morning when I come to work.
 
2013-07-10 03:25:32 PM  
I bought a blood diamond, and was exceptionally upset it wasn't red.
 
2013-07-10 03:25:32 PM  

SpiderQueenDemon: StreetlightInTheGhetto: My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada. Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design. And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver. Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet. And the rings looked amazing.

Inherited silver is really an awesome way to go. My Grandma had some beloved old family silverware from the late 1800s which got stolen when I was in grade school, and by the time the cops recovered it from the teenage junkie down the road, it was dented and scratched to hell, some of the knives had the blades snapped off, part of it had been melted into a nuggety mess...it wasn't good.

So she has been calmly parceling it out to the various grandsons and granddaughters' fiances over the years, having a cross necklace made for a relative's fortieth birthday, gifts for milestone wedding anniversaries, monogrammed cufflinks for the boys and simple silver pendants with a religious symbol for the girls when they graduate from college...all kinds of things. She has a regular jeweler who does most of the work and slowly but surely, the family silver is being parceled out to the actual family.

When my cousin informed Grandma as a college senior that she was converting to marry her Jewish fiance, the dear old lady simply went to her jeweler and had said cousin's graduation pendant done as a Star of David, because family means family. My atheist cousin admitted to Grandma that she doesn't believe in a God and Grandma accepted it calmly and rationally, then went a little batshiat in private because she couldn't figure out how the hell to manage cousin's graduation necklace. Eventually it was decided to have it made up as a little mortar and pestle, to reflect said cousin's majoring in pharmacy, and all was well...until said cousin got engaged to a nice atheist boy fro ...


chirho.me
 
2013-07-10 03:30:03 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Say what you like about child-labor, but at least they're not growing obese in front of mind-numbing video games.


I hear diamond mining really stimulates the intellect.
 
2013-07-10 03:31:19 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Not like most of those kids have schools to go to instead.

/what is the number one way to develop a real economy?  Government run universal education, of course.  But that's "socialism" for the Derpists.


It doesn't always work.  In fact, the case could be made that it works with success inverse in proportion to the socialism in the remainder of the country's governance.

www.dc4mf.org
 
2013-07-10 03:32:00 PM  

SpiderQueenDemon: StreetlightInTheGhetto: My friend bought a ring for his boyfriend before they got married in Canada. Found a admittedly really cool design of interlinking parts and had his friend's dad - a jeweler - make rings based off that design. And, IIRC, made out of inherited silver. Something entirely unique with a story and honest design and craftsmanship about it - that was really sweet. And the rings looked amazing.

Inherited silver is really an awesome way to go. My Grandma had some beloved old family silverware from the late 1800s which got stolen when I was in grade school, and by the time the cops recovered it from the teenage junkie down the road, it was dented and scratched to hell, some of the knives had the blades snapped off, part of it had been melted into a nuggety mess...it wasn't good.

So she has been calmly parceling it out to the various grandsons and granddaughters' fiances over the years, having a cross necklace made for a relative's fortieth birthday, gifts for milestone wedding anniversaries, monogrammed cufflinks for the boys and simple silver pendants with a religious symbol for the girls when they graduate from college...all kinds of things. She has a regular jeweler who does most of the work and slowly but surely, the family silver is being parceled out to the actual family.

When my cousin informed Grandma as a college senior that she was converting to marry her Jewish fiance, the dear old lady simply went to her jeweler and had said cousin's graduation pendant done as a Star of David, because family means family. My atheist cousin admitted to Grandma that she doesn't believe in a God and Grandma accepted it calmly and rationally, then went a little batshiat in private because she couldn't figure out how the hell to manage cousin's graduation necklace. Eventually it was decided to have it made up as a little mortar and pestle, to reflect said cousin's majoring in pharmacy, and all was well...until said cousin got engaged to a nice atheist boy fro ...


CSB...

Seriously though, your Granny is cool.
 
2013-07-10 03:33:29 PM  

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


Can comments be submitted for Best Of Fark somehow?
 
2013-07-10 03:33:34 PM  
Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.
 
2013-07-10 03:35:05 PM  

sigdiamond2000: My wife and I forwent engagement jewelry of any kind, because, frankly, we're better than you people.

I also don't own a TeeVee and I use a non-ironic rotary phone.

Pretty much King Sh*T of F*ck Island over here.


Ditto. No pre-wedding crap. We bought our wedding bands several months after the wedding ('cause who f*cking cares, right?), and they're made out of solid tungsten carbide. For you downtrodden geek-flap calculator-f*cks out there, that's "WC" in molecular formula-speak.

/King F*ck of Sh*t Island
 
2013-07-10 03:35:59 PM  

megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.


I think I love you.
 
2013-07-10 03:45:50 PM  
Oh, and to totally kill the romance:  http://www.foodispower.org/slavery-in-the-chocolate-industry/

Delicious, delicious, romantic slavery.
 
2013-07-10 03:49:32 PM  
Jewelry is the human equivalent of a baboon's red ass.  And about as dignified.

Prove you're civilized and forgo it altogether.
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-10 03:50:41 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: The precious raw metals we use in jewelry though while twittastic pale in comparison in both size and scope to their need and use in electronic devices.

So think about that every time you upgrade your phone to the new and fantastic that you helped contribute to child labor in some far off nation.


Do your part to help by recycling your old phones and electronics instead of sending them to the landfill. Also buy a phone that isn't made in China by some child/slave/worker. The Google Nexus 4 and LG Optimus G is made in S.Korea. Motorola will be producing the Moto X in the USA soon.

/ Looking forward to the Optimus G2, Nexus 5 and Key Lime Pie.
// http://www.thefullsignal.com/google/google-nexus-5/15248/what-does-lg - optimus-g2-tell-us-about-nexus-5
/// http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/nexus-5-coming-in-october-with-and r oid-key-lime-pie-based-on-lg-optimus-g2
//// Slashies!
 
2013-07-10 03:53:55 PM  

Lord Farkwad: IdBeCrazyIf: The precious raw metals we use in jewelry though while twittastic pale in comparison in both size and scope to their need and use in electronic devices.

So think about that every time you upgrade your phone to the new and fantastic that you helped contribute to child labor in some far off nation.

Do your part to help by recycling your old phones and electronics instead of sending them to the landfill. Also buy a phone that isn't made in China by some child/slave/worker. The Google Nexus 4 and LG Optimus G is made in S.Korea. Motorola will be producing the Moto X in the USA soon.

/ Looking forward to the Optimus G2, Nexus 5 and Key Lime Pie.
// http://www.thefullsignal.com/google/google-nexus-5/15248/what-does-lg - optimus-g2-tell-us-about-nexus-5
/// http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/nexus-5-coming-in-october-with-and r oid-key-lime-pie-based-on-lg-optimus-g2
//// Slashies!


moto x will be built in ft worth, about 12 miles from my house
 
2013-07-10 03:57:21 PM  

megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.


Stop teasing us.  We already know you won't put out for booze.  I've tried, girl.  :D
 
2013-07-10 03:59:46 PM  

Kimpak: STRYPERSWINE: The great thing about not being a hippie is not having to feel guilty about everything.  Well, one of the great things, that is.

This!

Bought Mrs. Kimpak a diamond engagement and wedding ring, well within my budget.  I don't feel one bit guilty.


+1 add a new stone for the anniversary to the list for me. Farkers shrug off the horrible shiat their possessions do to the planet every day. Clinging to one is natural, I suppose. The human cost sucks, to be sure, but it's hardly as simple as "the world stops buying diamonds today, and all these kids suddenly have a wonderful life." My money, well it's just money -- it's there to spend.
 
2013-07-10 04:03:09 PM  
SpiderQueenDemon: When my cousin informed Grandma as a college senior that she was converting to marry her Jewish fiance, the dear old lady simply went to her jeweler and had said cousin's graduation pendant done as a Star of David, because family means family. My atheist cousin admitted to Grandma that she doesn't believe in a God and Grandma accepted it calmly and rationally, then went a little batshiat in private because she couldn't figure out how the hell to manage cousin's graduation necklace. Eventually it was decided to have it made up as a little mortar and pestle, to reflect said cousin's majoring in pharmacy, and all was well...until said cousin got engaged to a nice atheist boy from the Physics department. Grandma had to talk him into accepting family-silver wedding rings, and since the traditional Scripture engraving inside simply wouldn't do, she went online and found over a hundred quotes on the subject of love and commitment by secular authors, including one from Dr. Richard Feynman that she particularly liked and which the happy couple wound up choosing.

I think your Grandma's an awesome lady.
 
2013-07-10 04:03:48 PM  
Speaking in his native dialect, Karim smiles when he is asked what he wants to do with his life. "I came here to make money," he says. "My dream is to make enough money so I don't have to do this anymore."

So, he's just like any other American wage-slave...
 
2013-07-10 04:07:53 PM  
There are other things you do that harms the world too, no reason to be caught up on one little thing.

I for one like seal fur and enjoyed that one time I tried whale.
 
2013-07-10 04:09:36 PM  
My wife got no diamonds. I gave her the wedding band from my great-great-grandmother, 130 years old, or thereabouts.  The ring, that is.  Guess she's a couple years older.  Hers and my great-great-grandfather's names and wedding date engraved inside, almost illegible.

She was happy and she likes it.  I like her.

CapeFearCadaver: I still better get a goddamn diamond.


You sound like you'll be disappointed. Frequently.
 
2013-07-10 04:09:38 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?


You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.
 
2013-07-10 04:12:15 PM  

Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.


static.comicvine.com
 
2013-07-10 04:19:07 PM  

megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.


I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.
 
2013-07-10 04:19:20 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.


Except an cell phone at least serves some functional purpose where as jewellery is stupid.
 
2013-07-10 04:21:16 PM  

skinink: The diamonds in my wife's wedding ring are blood diamonds. The gold band were forged from goldmines in Burkina Faso worked by children. The ring was manufactured by underpaid Chinese workers in Shanghai. The ring was smuggled in to America by an illegal immigrant from Mexico. The ring was delivered to me by a Russian Mobster pimp. And my wedding was in Vegas.


SMBC Valentine's Day
 
2013-07-10 04:22:57 PM  

Fano: I only get my precious gold from crazed prospectors that speak authentic frontier gibberish.


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2013-07-10 04:24:04 PM  

manimal2878: God Is My Co-Pirate: Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.

Except an cell phone at least serves some functional purpose where as jewellery is stupid.


Jewelry is like a good suit or well-designed car. It elevates you socially and improves your standing among peers, helping you secure future social and monetary advancements.

It is as useless as a peacock's feathers.
 
2013-07-10 04:29:14 PM  
Soon-to-be fiance's rings will almost certainly be Ti, as will mine (at least primarily- previous wedding band was Ti with a Pt). On the fence about the gem for the engagement ring, but it pretty much certainly won't be a diamond- she's far too interesting and unique for that. Yeah, Ti is likely mined under pretty lousy circumstances either, but as an engineer I get how useful it is beyond being pretty...
 
2013-07-10 04:30:48 PM  

Carousel Beast: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?

You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.


Wow. I was asking a semiserious question but it's ok, go ahead and freak out. When do blood minerals stop being blood minerals? When those who initially profited from them are dead? At some point we get to stop feeling bad about making jewelry out of blood diamonds so when does that happen?
 
2013-07-10 04:31:16 PM  
My ring is Titanium and is all scratched up after 8 years.  If I got another, it would be tungsten for sure.
 
2013-07-10 04:35:19 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Carousel Beast: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?

You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.

Wow. I was asking a semiserious question but it's ok, go ahead and freak out. When do blood minerals stop being blood minerals? When those who initially profited from them are dead? At some point we get to stop feeling bad about making jewelry out of blood diamonds so when does that happen?


Depends on how much we sympathize with the victims.

Blood diamonds? Just look the other way.
Holocaust dental gold? Oh hell naw.
 
2013-07-10 04:35:26 PM  
CZ's set in silver. . .it goes kind of like this:

"I couldn't wear that.  Everyone would know!"  Then, it's  "Hey!  That ring fell overboard!  Oh, well, I can just get another.  Or, you know, three. . ."  After that, it's, "Nobody ever gets it right about which one is real and which isn't.  Why on earth would I bother paying for the real stuff?"

CZ's are like potato chips, bet you can't wear just one.  Also, lab-created sapphires and rubies. . .indistinguishable from the dug-up ones because they're too perfect.  Yeah, there's a hard decision.
 
2013-07-10 04:35:33 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: CapeFearCadaver: I still better get a goddamn diamond.

You sound like you'll be disappointed. Frequently.


You sound like you miss jokes and have no idea what sarcasm means and stand there gaping at people in utter confusion. Frequently.
 
2013-07-10 04:39:00 PM  
The whole freaking planet is built on blood and blood sacrifices.  The only reasons we have computers is because of the slaves squashed under the pyramids during it's construction.  Don't be taking people's jobs away.
 
2013-07-10 04:39:42 PM  

Beeblebrox: Calmamity: Why someone would pay a bunch of money for a clear rock OR a bunch of smudgy yellow metal is absolutely beyond me.

Fortunately my wife feels the same. We used our money as a down payment on a house. That we live in.

[static.comicvine.com image 265x310]


Because rock money would be better spent paying down the principal of their home loan, that's why not.
 
2013-07-10 04:40:47 PM  

super_grass: Jewelry is like a good suit or well-designed car. It elevates you socially and improves your standing among peers, helping you secure future social and monetary advancements.

It is as useless as a peacock's feathers.


So it's good for attracting mates then?
 
2013-07-10 04:41:13 PM  

super_grass: Wow. I was asking a semiserious question but it's ok, go ahead and freak out. When do blood minerals stop being blood minerals? When those who initially profited from them are dead? At some point we get to stop feeling bad about making jewelry out of blood diamonds so when does that happen?

Depends on how much we sympathize with the victims.

Blood diamonds? Just look the other way.
Holocaust dental gold? Oh hell naw.


That's probably the saddest most accurate answer there is.
 
2013-07-10 04:42:35 PM  

hstell: CZ's set in silver. . .it goes kind of like this:

"I couldn't wear that.  Everyone would know!"  Then, it's  "Hey!  That ring fell overboard!  Oh, well, I can just get another.  Or, you know, three. . ."  After that, it's, "Nobody ever gets it right about which one is real and which isn't.  Why on earth would I bother paying for the real stuff?"

CZ's are like potato chips, bet you can't wear just one.  Also, lab-created sapphires and rubies. . .distinguishable from the dug-up ones because they're too perfect.  Yeah, there's a hard decision.

 
2013-07-10 04:44:19 PM  

Wangiss: My ring is Titanium and is all scratched up after 8 years.  If I got another, it would be tungsten for sure.


Mine got a fair bit scratched up in the 3 years I wore it- but it still looked good, and weighted NOTHING even with the Pt inset band. A Tungsten ring of the same volume would weigh roughly 4x what the Ti would...
 
2013-07-10 04:44:33 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: Smeggy Smurf: The diamonds are mere chips.  The rubies came from a lab.  My lack of caring about the suffering of those who will do nothing to defend themselves is huge.


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^children mine workers^


The adults have taken up arms before. Guess how that worked out for them...
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^mine workers on strike^

/My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.


Thanks for posting this.

Was well aware of the strikers but hadn't seen photos.  More f--king people should.
 
2013-07-10 04:44:34 PM  

trappedspirit: The whole freaking planet is built on blood and blood sacrifices.  The only reasons we have computers is because of the slaves squashed under the pyramids during it's construction.  Don't be taking people's jobs away.


Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
 
2013-07-10 04:44:51 PM  
Sorry, I need to stop and eat.  Got the branededz.  :(
 
2013-07-10 04:46:15 PM  

Carousel Beast: You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.


Preach it.

I'd throw in that we should accept bad things happened *and learn from them*, but yep.
 
2013-07-10 04:48:43 PM  

trappedspirit: super_grass: Jewelry is like a good suit or well-designed car. It elevates you socially and improves your standing among peers, helping you secure future social and monetary advancements.

It is as useless as a peacock's feathers.

So it's good for attracting mates then?


The venacular for it is "SWAG".
 
2013-07-10 04:49:06 PM  
Hold the phone. HOLD THE PHONE

You mean old-world and industrialist commodities end up being exploited out of the people that they lie under? Say it ain't so.

/can't wait for this crap to end.
 
2013-07-10 04:49:10 PM  
Somewhere rich Conservatives and Libertarians are getting boners while reading this article.
 
2013-07-10 04:52:46 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Carousel Beast: You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.

Preach it.

I'd throw in that we should accept bad things happened *and learn from them*, but yep.


computers are the same thing as engagement rings, you're both correct!
 
2013-07-10 04:54:49 PM  
If you must have diamonds, just buy Canadian. All we do is fark over the Natives and Territories for their fair share of the mineral rights, so It's more of a twisted arm diamond than a blood diamond. Also, they have little polar bears etched on 'em!
 
2013-07-10 04:56:22 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: /My lack of caring about farkwits posting on fark is huge.


Your snark detector is defective.
 
2013-07-10 04:59:25 PM  

Ashyukun: Wangiss: My ring is Titanium and is all scratched up after 8 years.  If I got another, it would be tungsten for sure.

Mine got a fair bit scratched up in the 3 years I wore it- but it still looked good, and weighted NOTHING even with the Pt inset band. A Tungsten ring of the same volume would weigh roughly 4x what the Ti would...


Yeah, this thing is three grams.  I'll take the weight of Tungsten.
 
2013-07-10 05:03:57 PM  
Let's categorize the types of people who are impressed by big shiny rocks. We have the Icy Hot Stuntaz, the mentally handicapped, small children, cartoon cat burglars, and a large percentage of women. One of these groups might want to think about distancing themselves from the others.
 
2013-07-10 05:05:04 PM  

browntimmy: Let's categorize the types of people who are impressed by big shiny rocks. We have the Icy Hot Stuntaz, the mentally handicapped, small children, cartoon cat burglars, and a large percentage of women. One of these groups might want to think about distancing themselves from the others.


Probably kids.

Small things are choking hazards.
 
2013-07-10 05:10:11 PM  
Is there anything that we want that is bought with the blood of others? We could be 100% self-sustaining, living off the land, and the land itself was won by bloodshed some time in the past. Mankind is a horrible affliction on this rock. Plenty for everything for everyone and we'll never learn to share. We place more value on things than lives.
 
2013-07-10 05:13:38 PM  

super_grass: browntimmy: Let's categorize the types of people who are impressed by big shiny rocks. We have the Icy Hot Stuntaz, the mentally handicapped, small children, cartoon cat burglars, and a large percentage of women. One of these groups might want to think about distancing themselves from the others.

Probably kids.

Small things are choking hazards.


Or women for the same reason.
 
2013-07-10 05:14:28 PM  

MutantMotherMouse: Is there anything that we want that is bought with the blood of others? We could be 100% self-sustaining, living off the land, and the land itself was won by bloodshed some time in the past. Mankind is a horrible affliction on this rock. Plenty for everything for everyone and we'll never learn to share. We place more value on things than lives.


You should join my organic farm commune.
Nevermind, it's in Gold Country.
 
2013-07-10 05:19:35 PM  

vudukungfu: megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.

I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.


Heh heh...

I never expect to make it through the engagement anyway.

Also, that's what the bail money is for.
 
2013-07-10 05:28:27 PM  
We both used family heirloom rings to hitched. After the wedding they went back in the safe and the titanium rings went on. $10 from tanga.com.

Recently I had a man ring made from my grandfathers gold teeth. It has the family crest on it.
I wear it on Sundays and such.
 
2013-07-10 05:29:09 PM  

Wangiss: MutantMotherMouse: Is there anything that we want that is bought with the blood of others? We could be 100% self-sustaining, living off the land, and the land itself was won by bloodshed some time in the past. Mankind is a horrible affliction on this rock. Plenty for everything for everyone and we'll never learn to share. We place more value on things than lives.

You should join my organic farm commune.
Nevermind, it's in Gold Country.


I'm far too hypocritical and lazy to live in a commune.
 
2013-07-10 05:47:01 PM  
Buy Canadian.

Blood and conflict free diamonds and gold, certified under the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme since 2002. Not perfect, perhaps, but the best we've got.
 
2013-07-10 05:49:13 PM  
That is, the diamonds are certified. I don't think this certification applies to gold.
 
2013-07-10 05:57:12 PM  
Diamonds?
 
2013-07-10 06:00:11 PM  
cdn.kveller.com
Remember, no guy in recorded history has ever gotten in trouble for giving jewelry.
 
2013-07-10 06:25:57 PM  

super_grass: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Carousel Beast: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?

You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.

Wow. I was asking a semiserious question but it's ok, go ahead and freak out. When do blood minerals stop being blood minerals? When those who initially profited from them are dead? At some point we get to stop feeling bad about making jewelry out of blood diamonds so when does that happen?

Depends on how much we sympathize with the victims.

Blood diamonds? Just look the other way.
Holocaust dental gold? Oh hell naw.


Well your blood diamand just isnt bloody enough unless its set in holocaust dental gold.
 
A7
2013-07-10 06:26:04 PM  
If it keeps Sally Struthers and "Feed the children" rip-off charities from my TV, it's a good start.
 
2013-07-10 06:28:49 PM  
We used Ring Pops for our civil union ceremony last month.
 
2013-07-10 06:28:50 PM  

cynicalbastard: [cdn.kveller.com image 300x211]
Remember, no guy in recorded history has ever gotten in trouble for giving jewelry.


Unless she finds out that the ring you gave her is the same one you gave your previous girlfriend. An ex roomie of mine did that. It got ugly quick.
 
2013-07-10 06:29:41 PM  

Ashyukun: as an engineer I get how useful it is beyond being pretty...


Maybe this is a stupid question, but what use does a ring have except being pretty? Actually, make that two stupid questions. Why do I care about other uses of a material for things I don't plan on using it for?

I mean, I wouldn't buy a gold chalice because of gold's electrical properties.
 
2013-07-10 06:32:00 PM  

MutantMotherMouse: We place more value on things than lives.


I think the vast quantities of both things and lives is evidence that we overvalue both.
 
2013-07-10 07:08:39 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?


Plus by buying jewelry you are telling retailers and everyone who sees you wearing it that jewelry is still worth a lot of money. I feel the same way about those with CZ unless they exclaim to everyone "It is CZ!"- you are still reinforcing to people that diamonds are valuable and required.

That said, I agree with the lot of you that say that people suffer to make a LOT Of our [basically] worthless goods. I think you can improve your karma by consuming less, shopping at Goodwill or other charity-based second hand stores, or buying from the certified fair labor bla bla bla items.

/I don't wear rings because I have man hands so it isn't a problem for me...
 
2013-07-10 07:24:16 PM  
Geez, this is horrible.  I don't need gold from these places, there is plenty of gold where I live.  My neighbor's houses are real gold mines.
 
2013-07-10 07:26:29 PM  
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
One child's suffering is another man's engagement ring.

/at least he is learning a good work ethic.
 
2013-07-10 07:58:18 PM  
Bitcoins are the only ethical mining product.
 
2013-07-10 08:04:50 PM  
Well, preppers and assorted consiracy nutbags who completely, totally drove up the value of gold to insane amounts:

What do you have to say for yourselves?
 
2013-07-10 08:08:28 PM  

megarian: vudukungfu: megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.

I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Heh heh...

I never expect to make it through the engagement anyway.

Also, that's what the bail money is for.


I don't get it.  What's the skid-steer used for?
 
2013-07-10 08:09:28 PM  
Bought my ring through Blue Nile, who has conflict free diamonds (kimberly process) I suppose it could be subverted at some point.

They also adhere to "the Golden rules' which could of course, be horsehiat, but doesn't matter in my case, the ring is platinum.  Wonder if that's safe.
 
2013-07-10 08:17:43 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Ashyukun: as an engineer I get how useful it is beyond being pretty...

Maybe this is a stupid question, but what use does a ring have except being pretty? Actually, make that two stupid questions. Why do I care about other uses of a material for things I don't plan on using it for?

I mean, I wouldn't buy a gold chalice because of gold's electrical properties.


Beyond being pretty, it's also somewhat symbolic- and in my case, being an aerospace engineer and working with it in much of what I do, it's important to me. Granted, aircraft-grade aluminum would technically be MORE important- but it's neither as pretty or considered as precious as Ti is- but it's got a considerable significance for me...

Also- it's easier to make 'tension' settings with, completely wrongly named as they may be...
 
2013-07-10 08:35:48 PM  

ski9600: megarian: vudukungfu: megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.

I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Heh heh...

I never expect to make it through the engagement anyway.

Also, that's what the bail money is for.

I don't get it.  What's the skid-steer used for?


Shhhhhhh!

You'll ruin the surprise!
 
2013-07-10 08:37:18 PM  
I want one of these: http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls = org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=np&biw=1280&bih=642&tbm=isch&sa =1&q=tungsten+carbide+ring&btnG=Search&oq=tungsten+carbide+ring&aq=f&a qi=g2g-m2&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=62739l66596l0l6l6l0l1l1l0l261l1070l0.2.3

(tungsten carbide for linkophobes) Cheap, extremely durable, and attractive, they match a lot of what I normally wear.

/Now to find someone I can stand being with forever.
 
2013-07-10 08:51:31 PM  

megarian: ski9600: megarian: vudukungfu: megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.

I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Heh heh...

I never expect to make it through the engagement anyway.

Also, that's what the bail money is for.

I don't get it.  What's the skid-steer used for?

Shhhhhhh!

You'll ruin the surprise!


Don't forget the handcuffs.
 
2013-07-10 08:54:17 PM  

OgreMagi: megarian: ski9600: megarian: vudukungfu: megarian: Perfect engagement:

Go to ring store...fark it, so to Tiffany's and pick out omgThePerfectRing! See how much the ring is, including taxes. Write down the price.

Go to a really good booze store. Buy a *shiatton* of really good booze. Spend the remainder on a cabin rental in the middle of farking nowhere. Rent a Bobcat. Take it to cabin.

Have an epic weekend. Any remaining monies can be used for bail.

The end.

I'm pretty sure Fish and Game in any state frowns on the prostitution of wild cats.
Can't you just buy one a ring and promise you'll marry it?
I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Heh heh...

I never expect to make it through the engagement anyway.

Also, that's what the bail money is for.

I don't get it.  What's the skid-steer used for?

Shhhhhhh!

You'll ruin the surprise!

Don't forget the handcuffs.


Yeah yeah...I learned my lesson the last time. Now I carry a spare.
 
2013-07-10 09:27:44 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: But look at those abs! I don't feel bad for that kid at all.

[newshour.s3.amazonaws.com image 512x288]


I know, right? He must be a total gym rat.
 
2013-07-10 10:01:34 PM  
On the good side, slave labour being used to mine gold made Pat Robertson lots and lots of money.
 
2013-07-10 10:47:10 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-10 11:20:44 PM  

limeyfellow: On the good side, slave labour being used to mine gold made Pat Robertson lots and lots of money.


Im sure Pat has no qualms about that.
 
2013-07-11 12:29:04 AM  
Plain silver for me, stainless steel for the wife (allergic to precious metals).
 
2013-07-11 01:15:52 AM  

abfalter: I was disappointed that there was no actual blood in the diamonds...


Talk to these guys.
 
2013-07-11 04:00:31 AM  

belhade: Plain silver for me, stainless steel for the wife (allergic to precious metals).


That always weirds me out.  How can you be allergic to a non-reactive substance like Gold?  I mean, it has no valence electrons, or its highest-energy orbitals are full (RIP Bohr).  So how in the world is it going to cause any sort of reaction in anything?  Is it the trace amounts of Mercury or something?

I have a friend with antimony poisoning.  That's weird, too, but Chem 101 proffered sufficient explanation.
 
2013-07-11 07:46:51 AM  

super_grass: manimal2878: God Is My Co-Pirate: Don't use your iPhone to get all snitty about jewellery.

Except an cell phone at least serves some functional purpose where as jewellery is stupid.

Jewelry is like a good suit or well-designed car. It elevates you socially and improves your standing among peers No it doesn't.  This is the kind of thing poor ignorant people believe.  Wearing the same thing that a rich socially connected person does, does not make you the same., helping you secure future social and monetary advancements.

It is as useless as a peacock's feathers.


You sound like a woman, guess what, no straight man cares who designed your purse, it's just a bag.
 
2013-07-11 10:44:45 AM  

Wangiss: How can you be allergic to a non-reactive substance like Gold?


Rings are not pure gold. Anything less than 24kt is alloyed with other stuff.
 
2013-07-11 01:33:43 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Carousel Beast: To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wangiss: Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or you can buy antique jewelry secure in the knowledge that whoever was mutilated in its manufacture is long dead.

Also, unlike those places that advertise nonstop on the radio, you are actually getting something unique. But too many people think used jewelry is somehow tainted.

The people who died for it may be long dead but it was the materials for old jewelry were probably mined in the most horrific conditions imaginable. Spanish mines in the Americas, where most silver is from, made the conditions in the article look like a holiday resort.

Is there a statue of limitations for blood items? It's not ok to but them directly but to buy them second hand years later is fine?

You understand that your comfy, modern civilization was built upon millennia of what you'd consider the most abhorrent barbarism, right? So, either accept that bad things happened in the past and you can't change it, and focus on prevention of bad things in the future, or just go kill yourself so you're not exploiting thousands of generations of poor, suffering humanity so you can post on Fark.

Wow. I was asking a semiserious question but it's ok, go ahead and freak out. When do blood minerals stop being blood minerals? When those who initially profited from them are dead? At some point we get to stop feeling bad about making jewelry out of blood diamonds so when does that happen?


Doh!

Sorry, that came across way more intensely than I meant. Sounds like an attack, and what I mean to say is, if it's in the past, and you can't change it, then don't sweat it. Don't buy something in the present like a "blood" material if it concerns you, so that you're not reinforcing the behavior. But when you get to a secondhand sale - even if it's only seconds old - the original transaction has already reinforced the behavior, and yours just isn't.

Again, that's if you care. I don't buy jewelry or precious metals that aren't components of my electronics, and frankly, even if I did, I wouldn't care about the conditions of those that had to procure them.
 
2013-07-11 04:20:23 PM  

BATMANATEE: If you must have diamonds, just buy Canadian. All we do is fark over the <B>Natives</B> and Territories for their fair share of the mineral rights, so It's more of a <B>twisted arm</B> diamond than a blood diamond. Also, they have little polar bears etched on 'em!


Was that an Indian burn reference?  If so, nice.
 
2013-07-11 04:22:32 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Wangiss: How can you be allergic to a non-reactive substance like Gold?

Rings are not pure gold. Anything less than 24kt is alloyed with other stuff.


I addressed that.
 
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