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(USA Today)   Documents reveal that Aaron Hernandez really did want to be Ray Lewis   (usatoday.com) divider line 32
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2013-07-10 08:24:55 AM  
What poor planning. Definitely not the Patriot Way.
 
2013-07-10 09:29:02 AM  
"I'm angry because you're chilling with the wrong people."

Dude, you're a millionaire.  If you're that upset, drop the guy and buy new friends.
 
2013-07-10 09:37:13 AM  
Typical behavior for a tattooed meat head.
 
2013-07-10 09:44:18 AM  
If he wanted to be Ray Lewis, he should have had some witnesses who won't testify against him.
 
2013-07-10 09:53:08 AM  
How stupid do you have to be to throw away millions of dollars and fame over a friend associating with people you don't like.  Granted there may have been more to it than that, but really?  Come on man.

And the brazenness that the whole act took seems to indicate (as stated in many other articles) this is not the first time he's killed someone, it's just the first time he's been caught.
 
2013-07-10 09:54:42 AM  

k4mi: How stupid do you have to be to throw away millions of dollars and fame over a friend associating with people you don't like.  Granted there may have been more to it than that, but really?  Come on man.

And the brazenness that the whole act took seems to indicate (as stated in many other articles) this is not the first time he's killed someone, it's just the first time he's been caught.


The dude has "sociopath" written all over him.  Probably in those tattoos somewhere.
 
2013-07-10 09:55:47 AM  

k4mi: How stupid do you have to be to throw away millions of dollars and fame over a friend associating with people you don't like.  Granted there may have been more to it than that, but really?  Come on man.

And the brazenness that the whole act took seems to indicate (as stated in many other articles) this is not the first time he's killed someone, it's just the first time he's been caught.


Probably thought Lloyd was stealing money from the drug ring they were operating.
 
2013-07-10 10:00:09 AM  

deanis: Typical behavior for a tattooed meat head.


Absolutely. I heard from his sister's girlfriend's cousin's hairdresser who heard from her mom's boyfriend's nephew's friend bob's niece's dad who is the body piercer who pierced Sage Steele and Linda Cohn's bellybuttons who works with the tattoo artist, the same one who also designed Chris Berman's awesome old school tribal FUPA tattoo, that the tattoos jumped right off his arms and committed the murders themselves. The trial's gonna be difficult because the tattoo artist is being charged as an accessory to murder but he fled to Japan where he now exclusively tattoos the meatiest of yakuza "meatheads" in exchange for protection from extradition.

/the summer's eve is strong with this one.
 
2013-07-10 10:08:54 AM  

FrancoFile: "I'm angry because you're chilling with the wrong people."

Dude, you're a millionaire.  If you're that upset, drop the guy and buy new friends.


Well, to be fair, it was probably more like "I'm angry that you're chilling with people that know I killed people last year, and I'm afraid you're going to blab about it."
 
2013-07-10 10:15:47 AM  

Dog Welder: k4mi: How stupid do you have to be to throw away millions of dollars and fame over a friend associating with people you don't like.  Granted there may have been more to it than that, but really?  Come on man.

And the brazenness that the whole act took seems to indicate (as stated in many other articles) this is not the first time he's killed someone, it's just the first time he's been caught.

The dude has "sociopath" written all over him.  Probably in those tattoos somewhere.


He's hispanic.  He has "sociópata" written all over him.  That's probably why you couldn't find it.
 
2013-07-10 10:30:57 AM  

Dog Welder: The dude has "sociopath" written all over him.  Probably in those tattoos somewhere.


I came here to say something along the lines of this. In no way am I excusing the alleged crimes, but we're clearly not talking about a rational person who, at some point, may have stopped to think "Hey, this whole murdering thing may potentially jeopardize my career."
 
2013-07-10 10:34:39 AM  
Thug 4 life


/with no possibility of parole
 
2013-07-10 10:43:59 AM  
This guy thought he could outwit the police, but the only people he'll be trying to outwit now are the inmates during a game of scrabble............in jail
 
2013-07-10 11:04:44 AM  

natural316: This guy thought he could outwit the police, but the only people he'll be trying to outwit now are the inmates during a game of scrabble............in jail


In between attempts to maintain his "tight end" status.
 
2013-07-10 11:12:36 AM  
AH wanted to be a first round HOFer?
 
2013-07-10 11:21:07 AM  

FrancoFile: "I'm angry because you're chilling with the wrong people."

Dude, you're a millionaire.  If you're that upset, drop the guy and buy new friends.


But... Respect!
 
2013-07-10 11:53:29 AM  

Lost Thought 00: k4mi: How stupid do you have to be to throw away millions of dollars and fame over a friend associating with people you don't like.  Granted there may have been more to it than that, but really?  Come on man.

And the brazenness that the whole act took seems to indicate (as stated in many other articles) this is not the first time he's killed someone, it's just the first time he's been caught.

Probably thought Lloyd was stealing money from the drug ring they were operating.


And there hasn't been anything remotely suggest that he was part of a drug ring.

I always thought that Lloyd was running his mouth about partying with Hernandez and let something slip about Hernandez messing around with other women, and that got back to Hernandez's fiance. And with Hernandez being a trigger happy hothead, he decided the way to deal with it was to kill him.
 
2013-07-10 11:56:50 AM  
They already said that Lloyd was hanging out with individuals related to the last shooting Hernandez was involved in.  Rival gangmembers or something like that.  Pretty easy to figure out why Hernandez wouldn't want anyone in his crew hanging with the enemy.
 
2013-07-10 12:13:54 PM  
I thought one of Ray Lewis' cronies did the killin', but Ray Ray covered it up.
 
2013-07-10 12:49:37 PM  
In first grade I got in trouble at school and my teacher gave me a note to take home about the incident that required my parents signature. I got a copy of my some checks that my mom had written and tried to mimic the signature.

In my 1st-year old eyes, I thought I was doing OK and I could get away with it, but in reality it absolutely looked like the writing of a first-grader so I got in even more trouble.

Seems Hernandez' brain worked in a same way. He must have thought that he was so clever and that by smashing his cell phone and his home security system and dropping off the body a full half mile away that they'd never pin the crime to him. Or maybe he thought that being that he's rich he can buy his way out of anything with superior attorneys or even bribing officials.

Not only is he likely a sociopath, but I think his brain hasn't matured into adulthood yet.
 
2013-07-10 01:11:39 PM  
So when is ESPN going to hire him?
 
2013-07-10 01:15:35 PM  

baltimoreron: AH wanted to be a first round HOFer?


Whats a first round HOFer?
 
2013-07-10 01:18:21 PM  

king of vegas: Not only is he likely a sociopath, but I think his brain hasn't matured into adulthood yet.


Frankly its probably just a combination of growing up in violent gang culture, being stupid because he never had to learn shiat he was so fast and good at catching, and the performance enhancing drugs they all take messing with his endocrine system.  He also seems to exhibit the basic indicators of sociopathy as I (a layman) understand them.  He's glib and superficially charming with what seems to beno thought for consequences.  Last summer he had to go to the hospital because he put his fist through a window in a fit.

There's been a MARKED rise in the average number of NFL player arrests in the last few years.  It went up like 30%.  I think they all migrated to something new and harder to detect and its a little more dangerous than any of them or their trainers initially thought.  Hernandez was always a bad seed though it looks like.
 
2013-07-10 01:49:33 PM  

Super_pope: king of vegas: Not only is he likely a sociopath, but I think his brain hasn't matured into adulthood yet.

Frankly its probably just a combination of growing up in violent gang culture, being stupid because he never had to learn shiat he was so fast and good at catching, and the performance enhancing drugs they all take messing with his endocrine system.  He also seems to exhibit the basic indicators of sociopathy as I (a layman) understand them.  He's glib and superficially charming with what seems to beno thought for consequences.  Last summer he had to go to the hospital because he put his fist through a window in a fit.

There's been a MARKED rise in the average number of NFL player arrests in the last few years.  It went up like 30%.  I think they all migrated to something new and harder to detect and its a little more dangerous than any of them or their trainers initially thought.  Hernandez was always a bad seed though it looks like.


Wait, wait.... your positing its a newly crafted PED that caused this, along with a rise in other arrests?  Super Derp.
 
2013-07-10 02:18:04 PM  

Halstread: Wait, wait.... your positing its a newly crafted PED that caused this, along with a rise in other arrests?  Super Derp.


No no! He's suggesting that everyone ELSE'S behavior can be attributed to a mysterious new PED, but Aaron Hernandez is just a bad seed. Also, the mysterious new PED doesn't just stop at violent assaults, but causes the player to flaunt the law in general! Anything from public intoxication to cheating on their taxes! You take this new PED and it just makes you wanna be baaaaaad!
 
2013-07-10 02:21:51 PM  

Broktun: I thought one of Ray Lewis' cronies did the killin', but Ray Ray covered it up.


Not even close.  The "cronies" were all found no guilty.  The states "star witness" was a guy who attacked Ray and his friends in the club, then chased after their vehicle shooting at it.

Lewis plead to obstruction for throwing away a suit he was wearing, with blood on it, from helping his friend who'd had his head split open during the fight.

Lewis took the plea under the advisement of his agent and attorney's because the NFL was talking about an extended ban and him losing out on millions upon millions of dollars.

The state never had any evidence whatsoever that Ray Lewis was ever actively involved in stabbing the guy, or ever covered for anyone who did.
 
2013-07-10 03:10:06 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Broktun: I thought one of Ray Lewis' cronies did the killin', but Ray Ray covered it up.

Not even close.  The "cronies" were all found no guilty.  The states "star witness" was a guy who attacked Ray and his friends in the club, then chased after their vehicle shooting at it.

Lewis plead to obstruction for throwing away a suit he was wearing, with blood on it, from helping his friend who'd had his head split open during the fight.

Lewis took the plea under the advisement of his agent and attorney's because the NFL was talking about an extended ban and him losing out on millions upon millions of dollars.

The state never had any evidence whatsoever that Ray Lewis was ever actively involved in stabbing the guy, or ever covered for anyone who did.


Which happened after the murder weapon, one of two knives his friend bought the day before, his clothes and all bio evidence in the vehicle had been properly disposed of, and the limo driver changed his account of what he saw after a visit from Ray's "people".

It's like justice was... held up in some way.
 
2013-07-10 05:00:20 PM  

WinoRhino: Halstread: Wait, wait.... your positing its a newly crafted PED that caused this, along with a rise in other arrests?  Super Derp.

No no! He's suggesting that everyone ELSE'S behavior can be attributed to a mysterious new PED, but Aaron Hernandez is just a bad seed. Also, the mysterious new PED doesn't just stop at violent assaults, but causes the player to flaunt the law in general! Anything from public intoxication to cheating on their taxes! You take this new PED and it just makes you wanna be baaaaaad!


That actually could be the plot to a good sci-fi book.  Mad scientist develops undetectable PED and sells it to pro-athletes and their trainers.  But the PED, over a few months, makes some of them into violent psychopaths.  Hmm.
 
2013-07-10 08:01:30 PM  
If he wanted to be Ray-Ray he would have used a knife. Duh,
 
2013-07-11 12:25:55 AM  

Broktun: I thought one of Ray Lewis' cronies did the killin', but Ray Ray covered it up.


That was what his lawyer wanted everyone to believe then paid off the right people and paid to have Rays bloody clothing hidden.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not even close. The "cronies" were all found no guilty. The states "star witness" was a guy who attacked Ray and his friends in the club, then chased after their vehicle shooting at it.

Lewis plead to obstruction for throwing away a suit he was wearing, with blood on it, from helping his friend who'd had his head split open during the fight.

Lewis took the plea under the advisement of his agent and attorney's because the NFL was talking about an extended ban and him losing out on millions upon millions of dollars.

The state never had any evidence whatsoever that Ray Lewis was ever actively involved in stabbing the guy, or ever covered for anyone who did.


That is not even remotely true, he was arrested for murder after all the witnesses identified him as the attacker, most of them never showed up, and he didnt hide the suit he refused to say who went back and got it after the limo driver said he dropped him off to strip nude behind a fast food dumpster. He took the plea deal because his attorney hid enough evidence to make it hard to get a conviction.

The state had quite a bit of evidence he stabbed the guy, but when witnesses are partiers who refused to testify or had past criminal histories its hard to get a jury conviction. What is more telling was how his attorney quietly arranged a pay off of the victim to head off a public civil trial, Ravens fans still refuse to admit Ray is a farking scumbag, he should be in prison.
 
2013-07-11 12:36:57 AM  

steamingpile: Broktun: I thought one of Ray Lewis' cronies did the killin', but Ray Ray covered it up.

That was what his lawyer wanted everyone to believe then paid off the right people and paid to have Rays bloody clothing hidden.

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not even close. The "cronies" were all found no guilty. The states "star witness" was a guy who attacked Ray and his friends in the club, then chased after their vehicle shooting at it.

Lewis plead to obstruction for throwing away a suit he was wearing, with blood on it, from helping his friend who'd had his head split open during the fight.

Lewis took the plea under the advisement of his agent and attorney's because the NFL was talking about an extended ban and him losing out on millions upon millions of dollars.

The state never had any evidence whatsoever that Ray Lewis was ever actively involved in stabbing the guy, or ever covered for anyone who did.

That is not even remotely true, he was arrested for murder after all the witnesses identified him as the attacker, most of them never showed up, and he didnt hide the suit he refused to say who went back and got it after the limo driver said he dropped him off to strip nude behind a fast food dumpster. He took the plea deal because his attorney hid enough evidence to make it hard to get a conviction.

The state had quite a bit of evidence he stabbed the guy, but when witnesses are partiers who refused to testify or had past criminal histories its hard to get a jury conviction. What is more telling was how his attorney quietly arranged a pay off of the victim to head off a public civil trial, Ravens fans still refuse to admit Ray is a farking scumbag, he should be in prison.


Why do you insist on making shiat up? If the state had plenty of evidence that he stabbed the guy they could have used that to counter any witnesses that said otherwise. What they had were a bunch of witnesses from the very start that identified a tall skinny black man wearing a long fur coat as the stabber. And that is one of the people who was eventually charged with murder and latter acquitted because the jury found he was acting in self defense.

But why am I even trying to argue with you on this? You are going to just make more shiat up.
 
2013-07-11 09:35:19 AM  

WinoRhino: No no! He's suggesting that everyone ELSE'S behavior can be attributed to a mysterious new PED, but Aaron Hernandez is just a bad seed. Also, the mysterious new PED doesn't just stop at violent assaults, but causes the player to flaunt the law in general! Anything from public intoxication to cheating on their taxes! You take this new PED and it just makes you wanna be baaaaaad!


I said I think most of them use PEDs.  Widespread use of these drugs and contribute to increased aggression which sometimes leads to criminal violence.  They change up roids all the time as new things come out, some of which have more pronounced negative side effects than previous drugs, although obviously some evolutions have less.  Average arrests of NFL players has jumped 33% since 2008.  I don't think the football has gotten dramatically different over that time period, not so much so that your average criminality shoots up by a third.
 
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