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(BBC)   Is this really the worst Australia side ever? Will Anderson swing the momentum towards England? Will David Warner punch anyone? It's your Ashes first test thread, day one   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 41
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2013-07-10 08:24:25 AM
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2013-07-10 08:25:18 AM
Well Warner's been shipped out to South Africa as punishment (a dreadful fate, no matter what he did), so that answers that question.

And I can only assume the inclusion of a 19-year-old left arm spinner on debut is purely to try and troll Pietersen.

Eng 98/2 at lunch, probably just edging it
 
2013-07-10 08:43:05 AM
Australia pretty much wasted the new ball. It was swinging like mad for a while there. The cloud cover is still around though, and there's been a few hints of reverse.

Would have been nice if Haddin had managed to snaffle that leg glance from Pietersen just before lunch, but it was a very difficult chance.
 
2013-07-10 08:45:45 AM
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2013-07-10 09:13:18 AM
Cricket is just one sport I can't wrap my head around the rules. I've read them before on Wikipedia while watching on TV. Still no clue. Good luck, chaps.
 
2013-07-10 09:17:29 AM
I'm disappointed that Root fell so easily.  I was counting on him for at least 50.
 
2013-07-10 09:25:28 AM
TROTT! This is not going as planned
 
2013-07-10 10:24:53 AM
is this streaming anywhere?
 
2013-07-10 10:34:59 AM

johnny queso: is this streaming anywhere?


i should qualify this.  is it streaming anywhere for free for a yankee that doesn't understand cricket, but would like to watch?
 
2013-07-10 10:48:28 AM

johnny queso: johnny queso: is this streaming anywhere?

i should qualify this.  is it streaming anywhere for free for a yankee that doesn't understand cricket, but would like to watch?


WillowTV youtube channel shows same-day highlights.  Have to pay for full stream
https://www.youtube.com/user/willow

You can get ball-by-ball live text commentary at Cricinfo
http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/engine/current/match/5669 32 .html
 
2013-07-10 11:28:09 AM

johnny queso: johnny queso: is this streaming anywhere?

i should qualify this.  is it streaming anywhere for free for a yankee that doesn't understand cricket, but would like to watch?


http://www.cricvid.com/
 
2013-07-10 11:30:27 AM
Oh dear.  England just lost Bairstow and Broad.  They'll be bowled out this afternoon, I bet.
 
2013-07-10 11:42:13 AM
England all out for 215.  This is not going to go 5 days unless England have a crazy 2nd innings.
 
2013-07-10 11:45:11 AM
have you seen the size of my trophy?
 
2013-07-10 11:56:42 AM

FrancoFile: England all out for 215.  This is not going to go 5 days unless England have a crazy 2nd innings.


wtfamIreading.jpg

I assumed England would go for 450 at least batting first.  It would be hilarious if this Aussie team somehow pulled itself together and won the Ashes.
 
2013-07-10 11:57:42 AM

macadamnut: johnny queso: johnny queso: is this streaming anywhere?

i should qualify this.  is it streaming anywhere for free for a yankee that doesn't understand cricket, but would like to watch?

http://www.cricvid.com/


thanks for this.
 
2013-07-10 12:08:08 PM
First Aussie wicket down, Watson 13.
 
2013-07-10 12:08:08 PM
And there goes Watson. Just the start England needed.
 
2013-07-10 12:09:31 PM
And another.
 
2013-07-10 12:10:18 PM
The crowd sounds like an EPL match.
 
2013-07-10 12:10:44 PM
At least AUS have avoided the follow-on...
 
2013-07-10 12:29:24 PM
What the hell? It takes me 20 minutes to get home from work and in that time Aus have lost three wickets. Why does that never happen when I'm actually watching?
 
2013-07-10 01:01:58 PM
This might not make it to the weekend. What a game
 
2013-07-10 01:03:51 PM
Australia 53/4.  Wow.
 
2013-07-10 01:32:09 PM
That was a hell of a first day.
 
2013-07-10 01:35:52 PM
so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?
 
2013-07-10 01:41:22 PM

johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?


Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.
 
2013-07-10 01:52:54 PM

Trapper439: johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?

Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.


thanks, i need to study this out.  fun to watch but i dont know why the bowlers and hitters change if there is no out made.  watching at work with the sound off, so i am not getting any analysis.  i will do some reading this afternoon.
 
2013-07-10 01:55:10 PM

johnny queso: Trapper439: johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?

Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.

thanks, i need to study this out.  fun to watch but i dont know why the bowlers and hitters change if there is no out made.  watching at work with the sound off, so i am not getting any analysis.  i will do some reading this afternoon.


Always 2 hitters on the field.  And bowlers are limited to 6 balls at a time (an "over" is 6 balls).
 
2013-07-10 01:58:27 PM

FrancoFile: johnny queso: Trapper439: johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?

Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.

thanks, i need to study this out.  fun to watch but i dont know why the bowlers and hitters change if there is no out made.  watching at work with the sound off, so i am not getting any analysis.  i will do some reading this afternoon.

Always 2 hitters on the field.  And bowlers are limited to 6 balls at a time (an "over" is 6 balls).


And batsmen stay batting after a zero (no run) or an even number of runs scored. Odd numbers (1 most often and 3 less commonly) will mean that the "resting" batsman has switched positions and is "at bat."
 
2013-07-10 02:00:31 PM

FrancoFile: johnny queso: Trapper439: johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?

Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.

thanks, i need to study this out.  fun to watch but i dont know why the bowlers and hitters change if there is no out made.  watching at work with the sound off, so i am not getting any analysis.  i will do some reading this afternoon.

Always 2 hitters on the field.  And bowlers are limited to 6 balls at a time (an "over" is 6 balls).


ahh, that explains a lot.  thanks.
 
2013-07-10 02:44:09 PM

soopey: Cricket is just one sport I can't wrap my head around the rules. I've read them before on Wikipedia while watching on TV. Still no clue. Good luck, chaps.


The rules of cricket, dumbified:

Cricket is played by teams of 11. The goal of the batting team is to score 'runs.' The goal of the fielding team is to prevent runs and record 'outs' which are sometimes referred to as 'wickets.' In normal play, each team gets one turn batting, which is called an 'innings.' The match ends when all hitters on both teams are out or at the moment when the second team has scored more total runs than the first. In 'first-class' and 'test' cricket each team gets more than one innings at bat and the match can take days to complete.

Cricket is played on a circular field. Top-level fields have a diameter of about 150 yards. A thick rope runs around the circumference. It is called the 'boundary.' Most of the play takes place on a rectangular strip of ground at the centre of the field. It is called the 'pitch'. There is a set of 'wickets' at each end of the pitch. These serve as targets for the 'bowler' on the fielding team. The wickets are a set of two pegs supported by three longer sticks -- called the 'stumps' -- which are stuck in the ground vertically. They sit in the area behind a line drawn across the pitch. This area is called the 'crease.'

Cricket bats are paddle shaped and much wider than baseball bats. The hitting side is slightly concave and curves upward at the toe. The ball is slightly smaller than a baseball and very hard. It is covered in red or white leather and has a single wide seam running around the equator. The balls is used until it is broken or lost. The condition of the ball greatly affects its movement in the air and off the bounce.

Two players on the batting team play at a time. Both are called 'batsmen.' They stand in opposite creases and carry their bats at all times. Only one batsman hits at a time, they both run at the same time. Their goal is to score as many runs as they can without being called out. When a batsman is out, he is replaced by another team member. His team bats until all 11 players have hit and the 10th is called out with no one to replace him. Because the team needs two batsmen at all times, one batsman is always left not out at the end of the teams' innings.

When fielding, all 11 players are on the field at a time. The bowler's 'bowls' by delivering the ball overhand towards the wicket behind the batsman at the opposite end of the pitch. The bowler typically runs towards the batter before releasing the ball. Normally, the bowler bounces the ball as this makes it more difficult to hit. Bowlers who rely on speed are called 'fast bowlers.' Bowlers who use movement to trick the batter are called 'spin bowlers.' The other 10 players are 'fielders.' Fielders can be positioned anywhere on the field manner according to strategy. Only one is allowed to wear catching gloves and protective equipment. He is called the 'wicket-keeper.' Typically he stands behind the hitting batsman and tries to block the ball from going backwards. Apart from the bowler and the wicketkeeper there are no assigned positions. There are many names for positions fielders can take on the field but these can be confusing.

The hitting batsman can hit the ball in any direction. After any hit, the batsmen can try to score runs. They do this by running from one crease to the other. Every time they swap ends they score one run. If the ball is hit well, they can try to score multiple runs. They can also choose not to run, if they don't think they can score. If the hitting batsmen end up in the other crease after scoring an odd number of runs, the other batsman takes over. A batted ball that crosses the boundary after touching the ground is automatically worth four runs. A ball that crosses the boundary in the air is worth six runs.

The fielding team typically records outs in three ways. If the bowler bowls a ball so that it gets behind the hitting batsman and hits his wicket, that batsman is out. This is called being 'bowled out.' A slight variation of this is when a ball that would have hit the wicket instead hits any part of the batsman's body, except his bat. This is called a 'leg before wicket' or LBWs. High-level cricket uses ball tracking technology to determine LBWs. Next, if a fielder catches a hit ball before it touches the ground, the hitting batsman is out. This is called being 'caught out.' If a fielder catches a ball in the air and lands outside of the boundary, the batter is not out. Finally, if a fielder hits the stumps with the ball -- either by throwing or with the ball in his hand -- while no part of the nearest batsman or his bat is touching the ground in his crease, that batsman is 'run out.' This typically happens when the batsmen a caught trying to score runs, but can happen at any time they are outside of their crease such as if they step out of the crease attempting to hit the ball. There are other ways a batsman may be out that are much more rare.

If the bowler bowls a legal delivery, it is called a 'ball.' A set of six balls is called an 'over.' After each over, a different player bowls from the opposite end of the pitch to the other batsman. Bowlers may bowl any number of overs, but cannot bowl two consecutively. Any fielder may bowl. Bowlers who are not bowling serve as fielders.

An illegal delivery is either called a 'no ball' for balls delivered improperly or a 'wide' for balls that are too wide or high to be hit. The batsman is allowed to try to hit a no ball or a wide and he cannot be called out on them except if he is 'run out.' Both a no ball and a wide result in a penalty run being scored for the batting team.

A cricket score refers to both the number of runs scored and the number of wickets surrendered.

Batsmen in first-class and test cricket typically hit very conservatively so as to avoid going out. A skilled batsman may bat for hours and can score over 100 runs in a match.

/ There, now you can watch cricket
 
2013-07-10 03:11:01 PM

Trapper439: johnny queso: so i understand england sucked when they were in.  is australia taking advantage or are they sucking as well?

Sucking for the most part. Watson and Cowan played atrocious shots (although in fairness you can't blame Cowan because he's simply not good enough for Test cricket).

Rogers LBW was kind of unlucky. Very close decision. He was right to go for the review, even if it didn't work.

The ball that got Clarke however was a thing of beauty. Inswinger that cut away sharply off the pitch and nicked off stump. You won't see a better piece of bowling than that.


A little lunchtime wiki has answered most of my questions including what lbw is and correspondingly why the guy was dismissed when he got hit in the leg.
Looking forward to tomorrow.
 
2013-07-10 03:19:03 PM

johnny queso: thanks, i need to study this out.  fun to watch but i dont know why the bowlers and hitters change if there is no out made.  watching at work with the sound off, so i am not getting any analysis.  i will do some reading this afternoon.


Here's an explanation of cricket written by an American. There are a couple of inaccuracies, but it's pretty much right:

http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ABOUT_CRICKET/EXPLANATION/CRICKET_ EX PLAINED_AMERICAN.html
 
2013-07-10 04:22:42 PM
-You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.
-Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.
-When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.
-Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
-When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.
-There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.
-When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game
 
2013-07-11 08:13:17 AM
So, what do you reckon, Agar can start at number three in the second innings?  It's amazing where you can find better batsmen than Ed Cowan . . .

(Note to Americans: Agar is a nineteen-year-old bowler whose selection in a goddamn Ashes test at that age is generally accepted as an act of desperation.  Not that he's bad, just too young for the job he's been given, and shouldn't have had in the first place -- it's not his job to score runs.  Imagine if the Preds started Seth Jones in their first regular season game, and he scored a hat trick.)
 
2013-07-11 08:16:45 AM
What a brilliant partnership between Hughes and Agar!! Brilliant! Come on Aussies!!
 
2013-07-11 08:18:10 AM
caira: (Note to Americans: Agar is a nineteen-year-old bowler whose selection in a goddamn Ashes test at that age is generally accepted as an act of desperation.  Not that he's bad, just too young for the job he's been given, and shouldn't have had in the first place -- it's not his job to score runs.  Imagine if the Preds started Seth Jones in their first regular season game, and he scored a hat trick.)

They're probably not arsed about this. I shut it off after it was 117-9, thought Anderson was just going to clean up quickly. Glad my mate just texted "Agar. Now." to me.
 
2013-07-11 08:44:31 AM
What an absolutely incredible session of cricket that was. Historic, even.

Agar has the highest score by a debutant batting at 11 in 136 years of Test cricket. Phenomenal.

TonnageVT: I shut it off after it was 117-9, thought Anderson was just going to clean up quickly. Glad my mate just texted "Agar. Now." to me.


You owe that mate beer, and lots of it.
 
2013-07-11 09:31:05 AM

TonnageVT: caira: (Note to Americans: Agar is a nineteen-year-old bowler whose selection in a goddamn Ashes test at that age is generally accepted as an act of desperation.  Not that he's bad, just too young for the job he's been given, and shouldn't have had in the first place -- it's not his job to score runs.  Imagine if the Preds started Seth Jones in their first regular season game, and he scored a hat trick.)

They're probably not arsed about this. I shut it off after it was 117-9, thought Anderson was just going to clean up quickly. Glad my mate just texted "Agar. Now." to me.


I'm an ice hockey fan in Australia, I'm used to explaining sports to people who aren't arsed. ;)  And, yeah, your mate is owed copious quantities of beer, of the kind not advertised during cricket matches . . .

/Australia, where a B's fan sees a guy in a Habs guernsey and says "hi there, friend!"
 
2013-07-11 10:02:08 AM
Agar out for 98. So close to becoming the first 11 to ever get a Test century...

I feel drained.
 
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