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2013-07-10 12:46:29 AM
And of course, his show was broadcast by PBS.
 
2013-07-10 01:32:20 AM
I am not a Christian, and I find most modern American "Christianity" to be odious, noxious, disgusting worship of hatred and greed.  Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.  I have very little positive to say about most of the people who call themselves "Christians" in the US.

Fred Rodgers was a good man.  I love him and everything that he stood for.  "Christians" should strive to follow his example.  He is more like the description of Jesus that I respect than any other self-proclaimed "Christian."

I might not ever be able to look at you and say "yeah, you're acting like Jesus," because there's no way to know for sure how Jesus actually acted.  But if I can look at your behavior and say "yeah, you're acting like Mister Rodgers," then you're OK in my book.

If you think your god wants you to act like Pat Robertson, Maggie Gallagher, Brian Fischer, and Bill Donohue, then the god you worship is an evil POS and I will oppose you every step of the way.

If you think your god wants you to act like Fred Rodgers, then you and I are on the same team, no matter what you think about the supernatural.
 
2013-07-10 01:42:39 AM

FloydA: I am not a Christian, and I find most modern American "Christianity" to be odious, noxious, disgusting worship of hatred and greed.  Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.  I have very little positive to say about most of the people who call themselves "Christians" in the US.

Fred Rodgers was a good man.  I love him and everything that he stood for.  "Christians" should strive to follow his example.  He is more like the description of Jesus that I respect than any other self-proclaimed "Christian."

I might not ever be able to look at you and say "yeah, you're acting like Jesus," because there's no way to know for sure how Jesus actually acted.  But if I can look at your behavior and say "yeah, you're acting like Mister Rodgers," then you're OK in my book.

If you think your god wants you to act like Pat Robertson, Maggie Gallagher, Brian Fischer, and Bill Donohue, then the god you worship is an evil POS and I will oppose you every step of the way.

If you think your god wants you to act like Fred Rodgers, then you and I are on the same team, no matter what you think about the supernatural.


Hey, can ya give us Episcopalians some slack, bro?  We're soft on abortion, against the death penalty, and very pro gay rights.  The church I used to go to had a male pastor who's married to the guy who runs the choir.  We're not ALL bad...
 
2013-07-10 01:54:08 AM
Let's make the most of this socialist day.  Let's allow the workers to control the mechanism of production in every way....
 
2013-07-10 02:06:43 AM
HighOnCraic:

Hey, can ya give us Episcopalians some slack, bro?  We're soft on abortion, against the death penalty, and very pro gay rights.  The church I used to go to had a male pastor who's married to the guy who runs the choir.  We're not ALL bad...


I absolutely love people who act like Christ is described[1].  Some of my best friends are Episcopalian, Methodist, and even Catholic.  If the Beatitudes are more important to you than Leviticus, we're solid, 5x5.  We might disagree on some supernatural issues, but as far as how we treat our neighbors, I'm right there with you.  I have a great deal of affection for people who follow the teachings of Jesus.  I just don't have any time for people who follow what passes for "Christianity" in the US.

As Gandhi said  "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Fred Rodgers was like your Christ.  If you act like him (which I know from experience, You do), then whatever you believe is fine with me.

American "Christians" often seem to be much more fond of Mammon and Abaddon than of Jesus.  I know that you aren't one of those, don't worry.  I'm not lumping you in with the crazies, of course.  But you've got to admit, they're the ones who are doing the most effective advertising for the brand right now.  They're the public face of Christianity; they're the ones we hear about.  The face of American Christianity today looks a lot more like "Jesus Camp" than "Mr. Rodgers' Neighborhood."

If you want to improve the public perception of your religion, those are the people who need to be opposed.  If you do, I suspect that most atheists will back you up.  I certainly will.


[1] (Most of the time I like the way that Jesus acted, but he had better stay the heck away from my fig trees, TYVM!  I take my gardening seriously.)
 
2013-07-10 03:18:11 AM
I firmly believe that if Jesus ever came to the U.S., conservatives would label him a bleeding-heart-liberal-socialist-commie and crucify him again.
 
2013-07-10 07:45:30 AM
Political garbage can would be an appropriate name for so many sites
 
2013-07-10 07:59:21 AM
i595.photobucket.com
"Hello, neighbor.  Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"
 
2013-07-10 08:09:47 AM

FloydA: If you think your god wants you to act like Pat Robertson, Maggie Gallagher, Brian Fischer, and Bill Donohue, then the god you worship is an evil POS and I will oppose you every step of the way.


It is easier to hate and walk away than to forgive and help.
 
2013-07-10 08:12:56 AM

FloydA: Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.


Same here. If someone feels the need to let me know they are Christian I take it as a warning that they have no control over their own morals and are letting me know that I am to be taken advantage of.

So-called "Christian businesses" are the worst. I'd much rather do business with someone who doesn't live their life and run their business like they'll be forgiven at the end.
 
2013-07-10 08:14:54 AM

Lorelle: I firmly believe that if Jesus ever came to the U.S., conservatives would label him a bleeding-heart-liberal-socialist-commie and crucify him again.


That is absolutely true, although the same would be true for Ronald Reagan.
 
2013-07-10 08:16:18 AM
TFA: You see, the entire conservative ethos is built around the notion that no one ELSE is special.

Fixed that for you Mr Blog Writer.
 
2013-07-10 08:18:20 AM
I currently have  a conflict between some of my nephews.  One is something of a free spirit the other a fire and brimstone Christian.

The free spirit nephew would like to mend fences.  The Christian nephew refuses because of precieved wrongs (the basis of the conflict).  I reminded the christian nephew of the story of the prodigal son.  The christian nephew told me I was using Jesus's word for evil and that I was going to hell.  He doesn't talk to me anymore.
 
2013-07-10 08:21:15 AM
Since I've moved to Pittsburgh, I've discovered that pretty much everybody who was here when Mr. Rogers was alive, they've all got a Mr. Rogers story. There's the guy whose bike chain got fouled up on his way to class at Pitt, and he stopped right in front of WQED's offices- and Mr. Rogers happened to pop outside and helped him fix his bike. There's the other guy, who saw Mr. Rogers walking down the street looking grumpy. "Hey, Mr. Rogers, you of all people should know better than to walk around with a scowl!" he teased Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers stopped, straightened his spine, put on a smile and said, "You're right. I guess we all need a little reminder, sometimes."
 
2013-07-10 08:24:26 AM

t3knomanser: Since I've moved to Pittsburgh, I've discovered that pretty much everybody who was here when Mr. Rogers was alive, they've all got a Mr. Rogers story. There's the guy whose bike chain got fouled up on his way to class at Pitt, and he stopped right in front of WQED's offices- and Mr. Rogers happened to pop outside and helped him fix his bike. There's the other guy, who saw Mr. Rogers walking down the street looking grumpy. "Hey, Mr. Rogers, you of all people should know better than to walk around with a scowl!" he teased Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers stopped, straightened his spine, put on a smile and said, "You're right. I guess we all need a little reminder, sometimes."


There are so few truly decent human beings in the world these days.  I've always thought he must have been one of them.
 
2013-07-10 08:27:27 AM

Kyosuke: So-called "Christian businesses" are the worst. I'd much rather do business with someone who doesn't live their life and run their business like they'll be forgiven at the end.


I knew a guy who claimed to run a "Christian" business and he fleeced a lot of other "Christians" until he closed shop. Last I heard he was going to become a preacher.
 
2013-07-10 08:32:50 AM
Slightly off topic, but I was behind an SUV yesterday with a huge sticker in the back window that read "Christ is NOT Conservative!!"

I imagine he's had his share of universal sign language directed at him and a few surprise brake tests from the God Squad.
 
2013-07-10 08:33:49 AM
After reading the article, I agree with what he is saying.  Conservatives have become a major force of evil in this country who daily ignore the gospels or twist their meaning to promote profits.
 
2013-07-10 08:40:29 AM
Didn't read TFA yet, but a pic of Mr. Rodgers flipping a double bird is awesome in any context.

Bonus
 
2013-07-10 08:45:32 AM
It simply is amazing the level of hatred conservatives have for Christians who actually follow Jesus' words about compassion, love, tolerance, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, generosity, selflessness, and generally being a good person.
 
2013-07-10 08:45:33 AM
They're not trying to be the people Mr. Rogers knew they could be.
 
2013-07-10 08:46:00 AM

Dr.Zom: I knew a guy who claimed to run a "Christian" business and he fleeced a lot of other "Christians" until he closed shop. Last I heard he was going to become a preacher.


That seems redundant.
 
2013-07-10 08:51:32 AM

FloydA: HighOnCraic:

Hey, can ya give us Episcopalians some slack, bro?  We're soft on abortion, against the death penalty, and very pro gay rights.  The church I used to go to had a male pastor who's married to the guy who runs the choir.  We're not ALL bad...


I absolutely love people who act like Christ is described[1].  Some of my best friends are Episcopalian, Methodist, and even Catholic.  If the Beatitudes are more important to you than Leviticus, we're solid, 5x5.  We might disagree on some supernatural issues, but as far as how we treat our neighbors, I'm right there with you.  I have a great deal of affection for people who follow the teachings of Jesus.  I just don't have any time for people who follow what passes for "Christianity" in the US.

As Gandhi said  "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Fred Rodgers was like your Christ.  If you act like him (which I know from experience, You do), then whatever you believe is fine with me.

American "Christians" often seem to be much more fond of Mammon and Abaddon than of Jesus.  I know that you aren't one of those, don't worry.  I'm not lumping you in with the crazies, of course.  But you've got to admit, they're the ones who are doing the most effective advertising for the brand right now.  They're the public face of Christianity; they're the ones we hear about.  The face of American Christianity today looks a lot more like "Jesus Camp" than "Mr. Rodgers' Neighborhood."

If you want to improve the public perception of your religion, those are the people who need to be opposed.  If you do, I suspect that most atheists will back you up.  I certainly will.


[1] (Most of the time I like the way that Jesus acted, but he had better stay the heck away from my fig trees, TYVM!  I take my gardening seriously.)


The fig tree incident and the "you'll always have the poor" speech showed that Jesus could be a jerk as much as anyone. It's interesting that they weren't removed from the bible along with the gnostic gospels.
 
2013-07-10 08:55:02 AM
Someone's blog sucks.
 
2013-07-10 08:57:46 AM

Aarontology: It simply is amazing the level of hatred conservatives have for Christians who actually follow Jesus' words about compassion, love, tolerance, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, generosity, selflessness, and generally being a good person.


None of those things are in their main scripture, Atlas Shrugged.
 
2013-07-10 09:00:35 AM
I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".
 
2013-07-10 09:06:14 AM
Mr. Rogers was a goddamn national treasure, and the Fox drones need to shut their whore mouths..
 
2013-07-10 09:06:35 AM

FloydA: I am not a Christian, and I find most modern American "Christianity" to be odious, noxious, disgusting worship of hatred and greed.


...and even some of the "good" ones tell you that if you don't subscribe to their beliefs ( eg. "are you saved?"), your soul will burn for eternity...

/ stuff like that drove me to Agnosticism
// religions based on fear creep me out..
 
2013-07-10 09:10:39 AM

Aarontology: It simply is amazing the level of hatred conservatives have for Christians who actually follow Jesus' words about compassion, love, tolerance, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, generosity, selflessness, and generally being a good person.


Like I said earlier, it is easier to hate and walk away so they listen to those who preach rationalizing following the easy road of ignoring those in need.  See that homeless person?  Bahhh! Probably a drug adict who chose to put themselves in that position.  Walk away.  Look how easy that was!
 
2013-07-10 09:15:39 AM

Mr. Cat Poop: I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".


If I am not mistaken, God was never mentioned specifically in Mr. Roger's shows.
 
2013-07-10 09:17:45 AM

HighOnCraic: Hey, can ya give us Episcopalians some slack, bro?  We're soft on abortion, against the death penalty, and very pro gay rights.  The church I used to go to had a male pastor who's married to the guy who runs the choir.  We're not ALL bad...


I assume that church isn't in Indiana, because that's ILLEGAL now. Or something. Honestly, I'd like to see a church gay marry a couple in Indiana and force the issue with a legal "Come at me bro," and blow a goddamn hole in this whole thing while hammering home that granting gay marriages IS PART OF FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

Incidentally, the rabbi who did my Bar Mitzvah was a lesbian. Kind of irritatingly feel-good hippie type, but better than the dour, droning near-Orthodox rabbis we went to before.
 
2013-07-10 09:21:19 AM

Kyosuke: FloydA: Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.

Same here. If someone feels the need to let me know they are Christian I take it as a warning that they have no control over their own morals and are letting me know that I am to be taken advantage of.

So-called "Christian businesses" are the worst. I'd much rather do business with someone who doesn't live their life and run their business like they'll be forgiven at the end.


At its best, religion can serve as moral guidance to be better. At its worst, religion can serve as a moral justification to be worse. On one end of the spectrum, you look to greater powers to find direction of how to be a better person. On the other end, you see the fact that you're looking to greater powers as proof that you are a better person than those who don't, and your actual actions are secondary to that superiority.
 
2013-07-10 09:25:54 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: The fig tree incident and the "you'll always have the poor" speech showed that Jesus could be a jerk as much as anyone. It's interesting that they weren't removed from the bible along with the gnostic gospels.



The Only Commandment is "TRY not to be a dick."
Everybody fails every once in a while, the important part is that you made an honest effort.
 
2013-07-10 09:28:41 AM

FloydA: I am not a Christian, and I find most modern American "Christianity" to be odious, noxious, disgusting worship of hatred and greed.  Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.  I have very little positive to say about most of the people who call themselves "Christians" in the US.


The ironic thing was that Fred Rogers really was an ordained minister, and he felt his calling to bring good to the world was being carried out through his tv show.

He was a TRUE christian. He never preached at anyone. He lived a clean life but never tried to impose it on others. And he always tried to see the best in everyone, regardless of who they were.

So of course, these Fox News sociopaths hate him out of burning fits of jealousy.
 
2013-07-10 09:28:51 AM

Muta: Aarontology: It simply is amazing the level of hatred conservatives have for Christians who actually follow Jesus' words about compassion, love, tolerance, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, generosity, selflessness, and generally being a good person.

Like I said earlier, it is easier to hate and walk away so they listen to those who preach rationalizing following the easy road of ignoring those in need.  See that homeless person?  Bahhh! Probably a drug adict who chose to put themselves in that position.  Walk away.  Look how easy that was!


ranoom local survey matches that
most people whether dem or rep would define the homeless as; someone who dont have a home

and then there were the ones who defined homeless as either druggies or crazy
(not many-((be grateful)) but always rep)
 
2013-07-10 09:30:25 AM

Bloody William: At its best, religion can serve as moral guidance to be better. At its worst, religion can serve as a moral justification to be worse. On one end of the spectrum, you look to greater powers to find direction of how to be a better person. On the other end, you see the fact that you're looking to greater powers as proof that you are a better person than those who don't, and your actual actions are secondary to that superiority.


Exactly right, and when you add a mob mentality to the latter, that's when it starts getting scary.
 
2013-07-10 09:31:02 AM

Mr. Cat Poop: I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".


I hated that farking show.  Our  holier than thou neighbors shoved that down our throats as kids whenever they watched us and we couldn't play outside.
 
2013-07-10 09:31:07 AM

Muta: I currently have  a conflict between some of my nephews.  One is something of a free spirit the other a fire and brimstone Christian.

The free spirit nephew would like to mend fences.  The Christian nephew refuses because of precieved wrongs (the basis of the conflict).  I reminded the christian nephew of the story of the prodigal son.  The christian nephew told me I was using Jesus's word for evil and that I was going to hell.  He doesn't talk to me anymore.


That is some serious nutbaggery right there.
 
2013-07-10 09:31:51 AM

FloydA: I am not a Christian, and I find most modern American "Christianity" to be odious, noxious, disgusting worship of hatred and greed.  Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.  I have very little positive to say about most of the people who call themselves "Christians" in the US.

Fred Rodgers was a good man.  I love him and everything that he stood for.  "Christians" should strive to follow his example.  He is more like the description of Jesus that I respect than any other self-proclaimed "Christian."

I might not ever be able to look at you and say "yeah, you're acting like Jesus," because there's no way to know for sure how Jesus actually acted.  But if I can look at your behavior and say "yeah, you're acting like Mister Rodgers," then you're OK in my book.

If you think your god wants you to act like Pat Robertson, Maggie Gallagher, Brian Fischer, and Bill Donohue, then the god you worship is an evil POS and I will oppose you every step of the way.

If you think your god wants you to act like Fred Rodgers, then you and I are on the same team, no matter what you think about the supernatural.


will you have my babies?
 
2013-07-10 09:34:07 AM

Kyosuke: FloydA: Generally speaking, if someone tells me they are a "Christian" in America, I assume, based on experience, that they intend to steal as much money as they can, and spend all of their energy abusing minorities.

Same here. If someone feels the need to let me know they are Christian I take it as a warning that they have no control over their own morals and are letting me know that I am to be taken advantage of.

So-called "Christian businesses" are the worst. I'd much rather do business with someone who doesn't live their life and run their business like they'll be forgiven at the end.


The "preacher" who used to live down the street from me peddled pills out of his house and is currently in jail in the next county over for helping to cover up a murder.
 
2013-07-10 09:37:20 AM

rev. dave: After reading the article, I agree with what he is saying.  Conservatives have become a major force of evil in this country who daily ignore the gospels or twist their meaning to promote profits.


cafewitteveen.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-10 09:39:24 AM
Not even 4chan disses on Mr. Rogers.
 
2013-07-10 09:39:41 AM
I recall one anecdote about the fact that Michael Keaton used to work as a stage hand on the show. One day MK was assigned to work the "Picture Picture", and when Mister Rogers would open up the side panel to insert a film reel or videocassette, MK would say "What sins have you to confess, my son?".
 
2013-07-10 09:42:48 AM

Tomahawk513: Mr. Cat Poop: I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".

I hated that farking show.  Our  holier than thou neighbors shoved that down our throats as kids whenever they watched us and we couldn't play outside.


If you really want to know how ridiculous religion is, just look at how it's presented to children. My wife is a Christian so I get to see the books and movies aimed at kids. I am always astounded that people still believe this crap. I teach my kids critical thinking on the side, so I think they'll turn out ok.
 
2013-07-10 09:52:11 AM

Aarontology: It simply is amazing the level of hatred conservatives have for Christians who actually follow Jesus' words about compassion, love, tolerance, forgiveness, turning the other cheek, generosity, selflessness, and generally being a good person.


Because it holds up a giant mirror to them and they see their failings as not just Christians but human beings as well.
 
2013-07-10 09:54:49 AM

urbangirl: There are so few truly decent human beings in the world these days. I've always thought he must have been one of them.


To add a strange religious twist back to this, there's an old Jewish legend/belief/whatever that claims that there are 36 people in the world who are so wonderful, so kind and holy that god saves the world because they're so great. They may not even know it, and no one else does either, but there you are. Mr. Rogers may have been one. :)

NB: IANAJewishScholarThingy, so apologies for errors. The term for these people is Tzadikim Nistarim.
 
2013-07-10 09:57:10 AM

Tomahawk513: Mr. Cat Poop: I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".

I hated that farking show.  Our  holier than thou neighbors shoved that down our throats as kids whenever they watched us and we couldn't play outside.


They did about 3 movies that are really damn good. Pirates Who Don't Do Anything is absolutely fantastic. But once you get off that path, it gets weird and uncomfortable fast.
 
2013-07-10 10:04:55 AM

Aidan: urbangirl: There are so few truly decent human beings in the world these days. I've always thought he must have been one of them.

To add a strange religious twist back to this, there's an old Jewish legend/belief/whatever that claims that there are 36 people in the world who are so wonderful, so kind and holy that god saves the world because they're so great. They may not even know it, and no one else does either, but there you are. Mr. Rogers may have been one. :)

NB: IANAJewishScholarThingy, so apologies for errors. The term for these people is Tzadikim Nistarim.



...or bodhavistas.
 
2013-07-10 10:05:44 AM

SlothB77: Political garbage can would be an appropriate name for so many sites


So in other words, you have nothing to contribute to the conversation?
 
2013-07-10 10:07:22 AM

Tomahawk513: Mr. Cat Poop: I hope they feel the same way about Veggie Tales. Each one ends with "Remember, God made you special, and he loves you very much".

I hated that farking show.  Our  holier than thou neighbors shoved that down our throats as kids whenever they watched us and we couldn't play outside.


When my girls were little I torrented all of the VeggieTales (even built out the metadata in TVDB so it would work with the media center properly).  I found them more entertaining than anything else that could hold a 2-4 yr old's attention.  Silly Songs with Larry were always fun.  While your neighbors may have shoved that down your throat, I think the show itself did a good job of showing restraint while doing what they wanted to do.
 
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