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2013-07-10 11:23:26 AM

The Southern Dandy: and I mean REAL tacos, not Taco Bell tacos


that you eat while wearing a real pancho, not a Sears pancho.
 
2013-07-10 11:24:06 AM

eddiesocket: Mikey1969: I think everyone is misreading this... They are telling people to break down stereotypes, NOT to assume that all Mexicans eat tacos and wear sombreros. I'm not sure I really see the problem with that part.

No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


They can't grasp the fact that there's a problem when so many people (managers, in fact) actually think this way that such information to the contrary must be printed in a company manual to tell them otherwise.
 
2013-07-10 11:33:22 AM

doubled99: No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


The same work manuals have sections explaining not to bring illegal drugs and handguns to work as well. Something else that you would think doesn't need to be explained. It's the nature of such literature.
But don't let that stop your manufactured racial outrage


I love that you pretend not to see the difference. Or maybe you're just very very dumb.
 
2013-07-10 11:45:50 AM
Is it true that not all white men can jump?
 
2013-07-10 12:04:40 PM
No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


The same work manuals have sections explaining not to bring illegal drugs and handguns to work as well. Something else that you would think doesn't need to be explained. It's the nature of such literature.
But don't let that stop your manufactured racial outrage

I love that you pretend not to see the difference. Or maybe you're just very very dumb.



You sound oppressed
 
2013-07-10 12:15:51 PM

Cantankerous Gnome: wambu: Cantankerous Gnome: [img152.imageshack.us image 766x766]
/oblig

WTF did ou find that?

On another Fark thread many years ago.  I promptly saved it cause it was awesome, so I just did a quick GIS this time since I knew what I was looking for.


Old but a classic.  However, the third panel is the best part.
 
2013-07-10 12:26:47 PM

doubled99: No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


The same work manuals have sections explaining not to bring illegal drugs and handguns to work as well. Something else that you would think doesn't need to be explained. It's the nature of such literature.
But don't let that stop your manufactured racial outrage

I love that you pretend not to see the difference. Or maybe you're just very very dumb.


You sound oppressed


Yeah. I'm going with "very very dumb".
 
2013-07-10 12:45:20 PM
Pfffft everyone eats tacos.
 
2013-07-10 12:56:12 PM
No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


The same work manuals have sections explaining not to bring illegal drugs and handguns to work as well. Something else that you would think doesn't need to be explained. It's the nature of such literature.
But don't let that stop your manufactured racial outrage

I love that you pretend not to see the difference. Or maybe you're just very very dumb.


You sound oppressed

Yeah. I'm going with "very very dumb".


Actually, I'm only a little dumb.
You, however, are an annoying little sissy with your panties in a bunch. Try to live through this terrible offense to your daily life, if you can.
 
2013-07-10 02:10:24 PM

KrispyKritter: Keep pretending racism, bigotry and stereotypes don't exist among all sorts of people, and also don't exist for very good reasons.


heathenworld.com
 
2013-07-10 02:13:25 PM

KimNorth: kingoomieiii: KimNorth: Ice NEVER EVER deports the mother illegal

"The mother illegal". Holy shiat, bro, the phrasing doesn't get much more dehumanizing than that.

Then don't be THAT!


"I've decided I'm going to use 'illegal' as a noun, and never refer to you as a person, and if you don't like it I'd suggest not being illegal" is the same line of reasoning as "I've decided that from now on, any black person I see that isn't acting like me is a n*gger, and if they don't like it, they can act like me"
 
2013-07-10 02:44:59 PM

Silverstaff: /I think that's the big sampler platter of national/racial stereotypes, at least from the American perspective


Being an international mutt I'd like to fit any of those stereotypes, but I'm hung over from a bottle of vodak and not really up to cheese.
 
2013-07-10 03:23:54 PM

offmymeds: Is it true that not all white men can jump?


I can't. I have to walk with a cane on account of my knee. Stereotype proven!
 
2013-07-10 03:25:18 PM

Coelacanth: Try working in a casino public area department, or kitchen stewards, or housekeeping with Mexicans. I've never worked with a more racist hateful bunch in my life. At one casino where I worked, the casino porters were calling an African-American shift supervisor a n*gger to his face if they didn't get the station they wanted, and SURPRISE, the Mexican HR employees never did a thing to stop it, except to fire the shift supervisor.
That's just one story out of hundreds.


So you are saying that since THOSE Mexicans are racist, you should be too?

Man, its is becoming harder and harder to stave off Godwin's law.
 
2013-07-10 03:26:11 PM

doubled99: No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


The same work manuals have sections explaining not to bring illegal drugs and handguns to work as well. Something else that you would think doesn't need to be explained. It's the nature of such literature.
But don't let that stop your manufactured racial outrage

I love that you pretend not to see the difference. Or maybe you're just very very dumb.


You sound oppressed

Yeah. I'm going with "very very dumb".

Actually, I'm only a little dumb.
You, however, are an annoying little sissy with your panties in a bunch. Try to live through this terrible offense to your daily life, if you can.


At exactly no point did I declare it a terrible offense. It's just a sad commentary on racist idiots who need to consult a manual to learn how to talk to Mexican employees. It's like something Michael Scott would write.
 
2013-07-10 03:30:27 PM
KimNorth:
Ice NEVER EVER deports the mother illegal or not unless she is a big time criminal and or has been told to leave by a high court before and left and returned illegally.

upload.wikimedia.org

Seems like you haven't had that happen to a friend of yours, huh there sport?
 
2013-07-10 04:24:30 PM
Dammit, and now I'm in the mood for tacos.  And there isn't a decent Mexican restaurant in miles from here.
 
2013-07-10 04:32:50 PM

Mouser: Dammit, and now I'm in the mood for tacos.  And there isn't a decent Mexican restaurant in miles from here.


-_-
 
2013-07-10 04:36:28 PM

freetomato: I can't quite wrap my brain around the fact a fabulous mansion can be on a hill overlooking a shantytown.


Take a walk from the white house about 5 blocks. . .
 
2013-07-10 05:26:18 PM
The Mexicans I know only wear sombreros if it's one hellacious party--the kind where you just realize that the Mrs. will be having you sleep with the dogs for a week, afterwards. Of course, by that point, pretty much everybody is drunk enough to think it's a good idea to wear a sombrero.

Other than that, it's gimme hats or cowboy hats, like the rest of us.
 
2013-07-10 05:54:14 PM
Yeah, reading all this kinda makes me want tacos, too.

We actually have a good taco place right downstairs (ie, ground level and across the street).

Maybe tomorrow.
 
2013-07-10 06:17:45 PM

Silly_Sot: The Mexicans I know only wear sombreros if it's one hellacious party--the kind where you just realize that the Mrs. will be having you sleep with the dogs for a week, afterwards. Of course, by that point, pretty much everybody is drunk enough to think it's a good idea to wear a sombrero.

Other than that, it's gimme hats or cowboy hats, like the rest of us.


Yeah, I see more Mexicans wearing cowboy hats down here in Texas then I do white people.
 
2013-07-10 07:10:08 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Silly_Sot: The Mexicans I know only wear sombreros if it's one hellacious party--the kind where you just realize that the Mrs. will be having you sleep with the dogs for a week, afterwards. Of course, by that point, pretty much everybody is drunk enough to think it's a good idea to wear a sombrero.

Other than that, it's gimme hats or cowboy hats, like the rest of us.

Yeah, I see more Mexicans wearing cowboy hats down here in Texas then I do white people.


It's the same in CA. The only ones I ever see wearing sombreros are mariachis.
 
2013-07-10 07:50:13 PM
Why does every band on Sabado Gigante dress up in identical Mexican band uniforms including giant sombreros? About the only variation from one band to the next is the color scheme.
 
2013-07-10 10:00:30 PM
In regards to the first three, I almost hope that they are joking and racist.  Because if they legitimately thought that they had to spell out to supervisors this stuff they need to fire their whole HR department for not requiring that applicants be able to go a day without a safety helmet and not sustain major cranial damage.
 
2013-07-10 10:12:32 PM

eddiesocket: JasonOfOrillia: A) How do you know that Americanized Mexicans aren't only wearing sombreros at home?

Stop being farking stupid.

JasonOfOrillia: B) I thought we were all here to mock comically bad training materials

That's what most of us were doing. You, however, were defending it as important information.

Mikey1969: I think everyone is misreading this... They are telling people to break down stereotypes, NOT to assume that all Mexicans eat tacos and wear sombreros. I'm not sure I really see the problem with that part.

No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?


*scans eddiesocket's comments*  Yeah, you're not mocking, you just being uptight and judgmental.  Not only that but you are making ungrounded assertions.  Someone as pedantic as you should at least try to get it right.  Life is way to ridiculous for someone like you.
 
2013-07-10 10:29:37 PM

JasonOfOrillia: eddiesocket: JasonOfOrillia: A) How do you know that Americanized Mexicans aren't only wearing sombreros at home?

Stop being farking stupid.

JasonOfOrillia: B) I thought we were all here to mock comically bad training materials

That's what most of us were doing. You, however, were defending it as important information.

Mikey1969: I think everyone is misreading this... They are telling people to break down stereotypes, NOT to assume that all Mexicans eat tacos and wear sombreros. I'm not sure I really see the problem with that part.

No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?

*scans eddiesocket's comments*  Yeah, you're not mocking, you just being uptight and judgmental.  Not only that but you are making ungrounded assertions.  Someone as pedantic as you should at least try to get it right.  Life is way to ridiculous for someone like you.


It was passed out in the context of a training manual for supervisors.  That seems pretty farking grounded to me.  If I worked at Target and member of upper management had handed me a manual that thought might improve my relations with Hispanics and it said "Just remember, not all mexicans like tacos," you would be reading about the first workplace violence incident that used the phrase "training guide sodomy".
 
2013-07-10 10:45:21 PM

pueblonative: JasonOfOrillia: eddiesocket: JasonOfOrillia: A) How do you know that Americanized Mexicans aren't only wearing sombreros at home?

Stop being farking stupid.

JasonOfOrillia: B) I thought we were all here to mock comically bad training materials

That's what most of us were doing. You, however, were defending it as important information.

Mikey1969: I think everyone is misreading this... They are telling people to break down stereotypes, NOT to assume that all Mexicans eat tacos and wear sombreros. I'm not sure I really see the problem with that part.

No, we're not misreading it. We're mocking the fact that apparently educated managers needed to be told that not all Mexicans  wear sombreros. This was in a farking work manual. That means people needed to be told this. That's a problem. How do you not see that?

*scans eddiesocket's comments*  Yeah, you're not mocking, you just being uptight and judgmental.  Not only that but you are making ungrounded assertions.  Someone as pedantic as you should at least try to get it right.  Life is way to ridiculous for someone like you.

It was passed out in the context of a training manual for supervisors.  That seems pretty farking grounded to me.  If I worked at Target and member of upper management had handed me a manual that thought might improve my relations with Hispanics and it said "Just remember, not all mexicans like tacos," you would be reading about the first workplace violence incident that used the phrase "training guide sodomy".


The ungrounded assertion I was referring to was where eddiesocket stated "C) you neatly avoided all reference to the fact that the manual flat-out says Mexicans are dumber than Cubans."  This is, of course, false.  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.  After eddiesocket accused me of ignoring elements of the document he made this silly assertion.  When I responded to his comment pointing out how silly he was being he neatly avoided all reference to the fact.

For future reference, pueblonative, may you should scan what eddiesocket has been saying.  He hasn't been mocking the source document like everyone else.  He just seems to be unpleasant and angry.
 
2013-07-10 11:26:09 PM
 JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.
 
2013-07-10 11:28:31 PM
Target should sell of their old manuals to Fox News and recoup some of the cost.
 
2013-07-10 11:30:16 PM

kingoomieiii: KimNorth: kingoomieiii: KimNorth: Ice NEVER EVER deports the mother illegal

"The mother illegal". Holy shiat, bro, the phrasing doesn't get much more dehumanizing than that.

Then don't be THAT!

"I've decided I'm going to use 'illegal' as a noun, and never refer to you as a person, and if you don't like it I'd suggest not being illegal" is the same line of reasoning as "I've decided that from now on, any black person I see that isn't acting like me is a n*gger, and if they don't like it, they can act like me"


Have they made a law about that? No? Then shut the fark up asshat!
 
2013-07-10 11:32:57 PM

KimNorth: kingoomieiii: KimNorth: kingoomieiii: KimNorth: Ice NEVER EVER deports the mother illegal

"The mother illegal". Holy shiat, bro, the phrasing doesn't get much more dehumanizing than that.

Then don't be THAT!

"I've decided I'm going to use 'illegal' as a noun, and never refer to you as a person, and if you don't like it I'd suggest not being illegal" is the same line of reasoning as "I've decided that from now on, any black person I see that isn't acting like me is a n*gger, and if they don't like it, they can act like me"

Have they made a law about that? No? Then shut the fark up asshat!


zing.
 
2013-07-10 11:54:27 PM

freetomato: JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.


An Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread sounds even less fun than this one.:)
 
2013-07-11 12:08:16 AM

KimNorth: Have they made a law about that? No? Then shut the fark up asshat!


I would have had no problem if you'd said "Illegal immigrant mothers". I just think it's interesting that you took a noun, "mother", and an adjective, "illegal", and reversed their usage. Because you're a racist.

(Or just a tough-on-crime asshole, which also means racist).
 
2013-07-11 12:12:22 AM

JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.

An Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread sounds even less fun than this one.:)


The thread really needs your strong, conservative opinion.
 
2013-07-11 12:15:45 AM

freetomato: JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.

An Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread sounds even less fun than this one.:)

The thread really needs your strong, conservative opinion.


How is my opinion conservative?
 
2013-07-11 12:37:54 AM

JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.

An Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread sounds even less fun than this one.:)

The thread really needs your strong, conservative opinion.

How is my opinion conservative?


Your comfort with casual racism led me to that. I most certainly could be wrong. My lack of compassion for how hard inmates are made to work had me branded as a conservative (ie cold blooded and lacking humanity, which is what I equate conservatives with, anymore) just the other night here. Not much room for middle ground these days. But I fail to see how this "guide" is anything but ignorant, and I have great eyesight. Your defense of it is either willfully obtuse, or you are a bigot and don't want to own it. There is no excuse, in this day and age, for the verbiage used in that handbook.
 
2013-07-11 01:37:02 AM

DrFuko: Coelacanth: Try working in a casino public area department, or kitchen stewards, or housekeeping with Mexicans. I've never worked with a more racist hateful bunch in my life. At one casino where I worked, the casino porters were calling an African-American shift supervisor a n*gger to his face if they didn't get the station they wanted, and SURPRISE, the Mexican HR employees never did a thing to stop it, except to fire the shift supervisor.
That's just one story out of hundreds.

So you are saying that since THOSE Mexicans are racist, you should be too?

Man, its is becoming harder and harder to stave off Godwin's law.


So it's racist to point out people who are racists?
 
2013-07-11 08:05:13 AM

freetomato: JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOfOrillia: freetomato: JasonOOrillia:  The document in question does state that Mexicans are less educated than Cubans but as we all should know education does not equal intelligence.

Please go into the Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread and express that opinion.

An Elizabeth Hasselbeck thread sounds even less fun than this one.:)

The thread really needs your strong, conservative opinion.

How is my opinion conservative?

Your comfort with casual racism led me to that. I most certainly could be wrong. My lack of compassion for how hard inmates are made to work had me branded as a conservative (ie cold blooded and lacking humanity, which is what I equate conservatives with, anymore) just the other night here. Not much room for middle ground these days. But I fail to see how this "guide" is anything but ignorant, and I have great eyesight. Your defense of it is either willfully obtuse, or you are a bigot and don't want to own it. There is no excuse, in this day and age, for the verbiage used in that handbook.


My comfort with casual racism?  You got that from my comments sections of the document that state that Mexicans are less educated that Cubans?  I don't know if that is true or not but I could see being true.  The argument I made before about that is political refugees are probably going to be better educated than economic migrants.  I don't see how that is racist especially since I would guess that it holds true for all or most cases when comparing populations of political refugees to economic migrants.
 
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