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(The Hill)   Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) says he thinks he may be the only US senator to have ever failed civics   (thehill.com) divider line 68
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2013-07-09 01:26:17 PM
Officially or unofficially, many of them fail on a daily basis.
 
2013-07-09 01:39:35 PM
Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz would like a word. (Among others.)
 
2013-07-09 01:39:57 PM
Depends. Does he mean the formal class, or the daily application of it?
 
2013-07-09 01:43:36 PM
I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.

I never had a civics class, per se.  Whatever they attempted to formally teach was kind of rolled up into history and social studies classes.
 
2013-07-09 01:48:13 PM

Diogenes: I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.

I never had a civics class, per se.  Whatever they attempted to formally teach was kind of rolled up into history and social studies classes.


I took an ethics course once. ONCE.

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2013-07-09 01:56:12 PM

Diogenes: I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.

I never had a civics class, per se.  Whatever they attempted to formally teach was kind of rolled up into history and social studies classes.


CSB: My high school Civics class was taught by an assistant football coach who proudly told us that he only took one class in the subject and got a D. At his community college.
 
2013-07-09 02:14:10 PM
I think it's interesting how proud he is of his constant failures in school, seeing as he pointed out two other classes.

It would be too easy to point to the letter next to his state and regard this as some sort of obvious sign.
 
2013-07-09 02:32:12 PM
that would explain this:


In 1997, Scott supported posting the Ten Commandments outside the county council chambers, saying it would remind members of the absolute rules they should follow. The county council then unanimously approved the display and Scott nailed a King James version of the Commandments to the wall. Shortly after, the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State sued. After an initial court ruling said the display was unconstitutional, the council settled to avoid accruing more legal fees.[24] Regarding the costs of the suit, Scott said, "Whatever it costs in the pursuit of this goal (of displaying the Commandments) is worth it."[24]
 
2013-07-09 02:39:24 PM
Failed civics? Spanish? English? How'd he?...

Oh, he's a Republican from SC. Carry on.

A fresh face in DC is potentially a good thing. Maybe he'll come up with an original idea.

Scott also called for the repeal of ObamaCare less than a week after the Obama administration pushed back the employer mandate from 2014 to 2015.

Or not.
 
2013-07-09 02:42:17 PM

kbronsito: that would explain this:


In 1997, Scott supported posting the Ten Commandments outside the county council chambers, saying it would remind members of the absolute rules they should follow. The county council then unanimously approved the display and Scott nailed a King James version of the Commandments to the wall. Shortly after, the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State sued. After an initial court ruling said the display was unconstitutional, the council settled to avoid accruing more legal fees.[24] Regarding the costs of the suit, Scott said, "Whatever it costs in the pursuit of this goal (of displaying the Commandments) is worth it."[24]


Nice.  King James version, to boot.  He probably failed Sunday school, too.
 
2013-07-09 03:10:33 PM
And South Carolina gets the representation it deserves.
 
2013-07-09 03:12:48 PM
"Parents need more choices so their kids will have a chance," Scott said. "Whatever can improve our education system should be on the table for discussion."

Great idea!  You can start by asking the state republican party to get behind actually funding state schools to a minimally adequate level - the way they were ordered to by a judge almost two decades ago.  Instead of their usually plan of cutting more funding so that kids already going to private schools can get a few bucks off their tuition.
 
2013-07-09 03:14:20 PM
Can we just stop with this Charter school stuff already?
 
2013-07-09 03:15:52 PM

Diogenes: I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.


Well, Tim Scott was born in 1965, so by the time he got to school states were no longer allowed to administer civics tests as a requirement for the vote.  No reason not to teach it in all classrooms then.
 
Bf+
2013-07-09 03:16:25 PM
FTFA: "They call you biignorant because you can't speak in any language."

Wow.
 
2013-07-09 03:18:00 PM
I thought that was  a requirement.
 
2013-07-09 03:24:55 PM
And this retard serves on an Education committee, too.  If he got a dishonorable discharge he'd be on the Armed Services committee.
 
2013-07-09 03:27:34 PM
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2013-07-09 03:29:17 PM

bdub77: Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz would like a word. (Among others.)


That's unfair to Senator Cruz. We have no idea what grade he got in Canadian civics.
 
2013-07-09 03:35:20 PM
The have a simple way of identifying those who failed civics the put an (R) after their names
 
2013-07-09 03:35:55 PM
I should run for Senate. Sounds easy.
 
2013-07-09 03:38:54 PM
"I think I'm the only United States senator to have ever failed civics," Scott said in his first Senate floor speech.

"I also failed Spanish and English," Scott recounted. "When you fail Spanish and English, they don't call you bilingual, no sir. They call you biignorant because you can't speak in any language."


Sounds like the kind of guy you can have a beer with. I think I'll vote for him.
 
2013-07-09 03:42:51 PM
He used his story of growing up a single-parent household in South Carolina to explain his personal and political beliefs. Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

...and this makes me really want to vote for him. I only vote for candidates who hate civics and government.
 
2013-07-09 03:47:17 PM

Dust: I think it's interesting how proud he is of his constant failures in school, seeing as he pointed out two other classes.

It would be too easy to point to the letter next to his state and regard this as some sort of obvious sign.


See, this is the kind of black people that racists like.  Doesn't threaten them as much as those ivory tower elitists like the Obamas.
 
2013-07-09 03:49:12 PM

Dust: I think it's interesting how proud he is of his constant failures in school, seeing as he pointed out two other classes.

It would be too easy to point to the letter next to his state and regard this as some sort of obvious sign.


Even too easier,
 
2013-07-09 03:49:52 PM

Diogenes: I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.

I never had a civics class, per se.  Whatever they attempted to formally teach was kind of rolled up into history and social studies classes.


When I was in High School you had to take a senior level "Government" class in order to graduate. Nothing but the structure, history, and operation of US Federal and California State government. I can't believe we graduate kids from high school now without even a basic understanding if how our government works.

Scratch that, I can absolutely believe it. I don't want to but I can.
 
2013-07-09 03:53:09 PM
It's unclear to me why subbies bother to put the political party in the headline when the person in the headline says or does something stupid or applies his phallus liberally to a chicken (ironic adverb applied intentionally).
 
2013-07-09 04:01:58 PM

Bf+: FTFA: "They call you biignorant because you can't speak in any language."

Wow.


If only?
 
2013-07-09 04:05:12 PM
This guy is proud just how dumb he is. This is who you farkers are electing to represent you. Stupid and intentionally ignorant, just like your average american.
 
2013-07-09 04:06:33 PM

Ned Stark: I should run for Senate. Sounds easy.


Getting appointed is even easier.

It will be interesting if they primary him in 2016.
 
2013-07-09 04:06:33 PM
I don't think he is... The smaller number is the ones who passed...
 
2013-07-09 04:12:57 PM
FTFA: Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

What the hell does that have to do with getting good grades or not? Plenty of people make good grades and don't get jack shiat done in their lives.
 
2013-07-09 04:13:32 PM
For you whippersnappers:

Civics = History(world or American), and/or Social Studies classes

The term "social studies" came into vogue in the 70s, but pretty much anything that falls into those two categories is what used to known as "Civics".

/get off my lawn.
 
2013-07-09 04:14:41 PM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: When I was in High School you had to take a senior level "Government" class in order to graduate. Nothing but the structure, history, and operation of US Federal and California State government. I can't believe we graduate kids from high school now without even a basic understanding if how our government works.


Not only did my HS do this, but my college made you take a 1-semester hour class that went over the Articles of Confederation, Declaration of Independence, and US Constitution (with all Amendments), and providing not just the texts, but the generally accepted interpretations, and the history of why the texts and interpretations were what they were.

And I know some of the kids that graduated with me from both institutions.  If this stuff confuses him, I know people who have careers as busboys - not jobs, but full-fledged, long-term careers - who are demonstrably a couple orders of magnitude more intelligent and educated than him.
 
2013-07-09 04:15:01 PM
FTFA: Scott said the Senate should have a broader conversation on school choice and charter schools. "Parents need more choices so their kids will have a chance," Scott said. "Whatever can improve our education system should be on the table for discussion."

Is this guy a liberal plant or something? Why would you tell people your views on education after admitting you flunked your own studies? How is this person supposed to be credible?
 
2013-07-09 04:15:57 PM

Somacandra: FTFA: Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

What the hell does that have to do with getting good grades or not? Plenty of people make good grades and don't get jack shiat done in their lives.


Then the irony is he ends up making a living on the govt payroll
 
2013-07-09 04:16:48 PM
What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!
 
2013-07-09 04:17:37 PM

Somacandra: FTFA: Scott said the Senate should have a broader conversation on school choice and charter schools. "Parents need more choices so their kids will have a chance," Scott said. "Whatever can improve our education system should be on the table for discussion."

Is this guy a liberal plant or something? Why would you tell people your views on education after admitting you flunked your own studies? How is this person supposed to be credible?


There you go again, assuming logic and intelligence have a place in this discussion.
 
2013-07-09 04:18:01 PM
"I think I'm the only United States senator to have ever failed civics," Scott said in his first Senate floor speech.

Yea, that's the type of people we need in the Senate.

Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

Sounds like a bullshiat story.

"Parents need more choices so their kids will have a chance," Scott said. "Whatever can improve our education system should be on the table for discussion."

How about we make every single school better, so parents don't have to make choices?

Scott also called for the repeal of ObamaCare

fark it, I'm out.
 
2013-07-09 04:20:12 PM

Craptastic: What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!


No one wants to vote for someone who's smarter than they are.

Explains a lot.

/Idiocracy is inevitable, no matter what Randall Munroe says.
 
2013-07-09 04:20:31 PM

Somacandra: How is this person supposed to be credible?


You're own credibility is diminishing.  Font up, man!  We want to hear what you have to say and some of us have old eyes.
 
2013-07-09 04:28:55 PM
Failed civics?  He belongs in the House.
 
2013-07-09 04:29:58 PM

Jake Havechek: For you whippersnappers:

Civics = History(world or American), and/or Social Studies classes

The term "social studies" came into vogue in the 70s, but pretty much anything that falls into those two categories is what used to known as "Civics".

/get off my lawn.


I always thought that was a public vs. private/parochial school thing. I went to Catholic school and had Social Studies. My public school friends had Civics.

meh
 
2013-07-09 04:34:30 PM

The Green Manalishi: He used his story of growing up a single-parent household in South Carolina to explain his personal and political beliefs. Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

...and this makes me really want to vote for him. I only vote for candidates who hate civics and government.


Too bad he didn't choose the "work hard" option.
 
2013-07-09 04:34:35 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Craptastic: What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!

No one wants to vote for someone who's smarter than they are.

Explains a lot.

/Idiocracy is inevitable, no matter what Randall Munroe says.


Remember at the beginning of Obama's first term, when he was talking to us like adults, and the narrative was "he's too professorial! he's being condescending! no one likes being lectured!"

Basically: fark the media.
 
2013-07-09 04:39:22 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Craptastic: What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!

No one wants to vote for someone who's smarter than they are.

Explains a lot.

/Idiocracy is inevitable, no matter what Randall Munroe says.


Idiocracy has existed in one form or another since the dawn of civilization.
 
2013-07-09 04:44:35 PM

Craptastic: What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!


The idea is, "I was a lazy bumpkin failing these classes who was that way because of my non-"traditional" family. Then I met a swell small business owner (the greatest people in the world) who taught me the value of hard work and I buckled down and made it all the way to the Senate"

Of course, your mileage may vary.
 
2013-07-09 04:46:04 PM

dywed88: Craptastic: What kind of person would vote for a guy who is an avowed dumbass?

OH!

Quelle surprise!

The idea is, "I was a lazy bumpkin failing these classes who was that way because of my non-"traditional" family. Then I met a swell small business owner (the greatest people in the world) who taught me the value of hard work and I buckled down and made it all the way to the Senate"

Of course, your mileage may vary.


Sorry, forgot to point out the shot at lazy good-for-nothings living on the goverment dime.
 
2013-07-09 04:57:00 PM

Aquapope: And this retard serves on an Education committee, too.  If he got a dishonorable discharge he'd be on the Armed Services committee.


Those who can't do, teach.

//those who can't teach, go into politics.
 
2013-07-09 04:58:44 PM
csb

I never took civics

/csb
 
2013-07-09 05:00:06 PM
"I also failed Spanish and English," Scott recounted. "When you fail Spanish and English, they don't call you bilingual, no sir. They call you biignorant because you can't speak in any language."

Well, Senator, in case you get bicurious, there's how to say "My hovercraft is full of eels in Yiddish:
"מיין פראָם ( שוועבשיף ) איז פֿול מיט ווענערס" You're welcome.
 
2013-07-09 05:16:01 PM

BitwiseShift: Well, Senator, in case you get bicurious, there's how to say "My hovercraft is full of eels in Yiddish:
"מיין פראָם ( שוועבשיף ) איז פֿול מיט ווענערס" You're welcome.


Trololo.

Also, I have something to add to my "learn to pronounce" list, apparently.
 
2013-07-09 05:26:22 PM

Car_Ramrod: Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

Sounds like a bullshiat story.


Not at all.  In fact, after telling him that, he had Scott help him with a special project back in the storeroom.  You know, the place with no windows where the lights no longer work.
 
2013-07-09 05:35:05 PM
He should just keep his school transcripts/grades secret, then, because he's black, any speculation would be racist. Super Smart.
 
2013-07-09 05:41:24 PM
Only in the US do political leaders wear their ignorance on their sleeve as a badge of honor.
 
2013-07-09 05:44:17 PM
FTFA: "We do not simply need a delay in the employer mandate," Scott said. "We need a repeal in the employer mandate."

I couldn't agree with him more.  Single payer FTW like civilized countries have.  To hell with Bull Crap/Bull Shiat.
 
2013-07-09 05:44:32 PM

lockers: This guy is proud just how dumb he is. This is who you farkers are electing to represent you. Stupid and intentionally ignorant, just like your average american.


The art of humility is lost on you.
 
2013-07-09 06:00:17 PM

The Green Manalishi: He used his story of growing up a single-parent household in South Carolina to explain his personal and political beliefs. Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

...and this makes me really want to vote for him. I only vote for candidates who hate civics and government.


"Bad government--indeed, bloated, inefficient, corrupt, and unfair government--is the only kind of conservative government there is. Conservatives cannot govern well for the same reason that vegetarians cannot prepare a world-class boeuf bourguignon: If you believe that what you are called upon to do is wrong, you are not likely to do it very well."

Alan Wolfe
 
2013-07-09 06:05:58 PM
 
2013-07-09 06:11:01 PM
Maybe, but a lot of others do a good imitation.
 
2013-07-09 06:26:35 PM

Diogenes: I guess it's somewhat impressive they even tried to teach it.

I never had a civics class, per se.  Whatever they attempted to formally teach was kind of rolled up into history and social studies classes.


In the educational/curriculum sense, "civics" is the old word for "social studies".  Integrated courses on policy, history and domestic culture.

So... the course you took called "social studies" is what's being talked about here.
 
2013-07-09 06:50:22 PM
"Hmm, a guy who couldn't pass a test designed for teenagers. I'd better trust him with the authority to set budgets for the nuclear weapon disposal program"
 
2013-07-09 07:20:12 PM
i.imgur.com

FTFY, subby.
 
2013-07-09 07:51:09 PM

Somacandra: Is this guy a liberal plant or something? Why would you tell people your views on education after admitting you flunked your own studies? How is this person supposed to be credible?


Take it from a different angle:  The conventional education system failed him.  He was lucky enough to be picked up by an alternative that worked(for him, for a given value of 'worked'.  The guy did manage to get elected).  Ergo he as a unique perspective on the conventional system's failings and perhaps ideas on how to moderate them.

Sort of like how maybe having an ex-con helping with the justice system might make some sense.
 
2013-07-09 09:30:17 PM

The Green Manalishi: "I think I'm the only United States senator to have ever failed civics," Scott said in his first Senate floor speech.

"I also failed Spanish and English," Scott recounted. "When you fail Spanish and English, they don't call you bilingual, no sir. They call you biignorant because you can't speak in any language."

Sounds like the kind of guy you can have a beer with. I think I'll vote for him.


Yeah that was AWESOME when people voted for GWB.

You've never been called "a competent steward of your own self interest" or even know what a steward or self interest is, right?
 
2013-07-09 09:47:06 PM

Somacandra: FTFA: Scott wasn't doing well in high school until a small business owner befriended him and taught him that he would have to work hard to succeed rather than rely help from the government.

What the hell does that have to do with getting good grades or not? Plenty of people make good grades and don't get jack shiat done in their lives.


Good grades is soshalism!  And makes babby Jeebus cry.
 
2013-07-09 11:26:07 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Somacandra: How is this person supposed to be credible?

You're own credibility is diminishing.  Font up, man!  We want to hear what you have to say and some of us have old eyes.


A house guest here Farked with the default font on my wife's laptop. Grrrrrr.
 
Bf+
2013-07-10 10:22:05 AM
Apparently he took English lessons from Sarah Palin.
/and she quit half-way through
 
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