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(USA Today)   If you think you were surprised at Jason Collins announcing he was gay, just think how his ex-fiancée felt when he told her just hours before the news broke   (ftw.usatoday.com) divider line 19
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2013-07-09 03:14:47 PM
3 votes:
Didn't we already go over this story back when the news came out or am I imagining that thread?
2013-07-09 05:16:44 PM
2 votes:

Rwa2play: Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.

Hey look, someone that knows absolutely, positively jack shiat about the pressures of male athletes who are in the closet.


That may be, but can we at least acknowledge that carrying on a relationship for 8 years then waiting until a month before the wedding to call it off without an explanation is a pretty shiatty thing to do to someone you allegedly care about?

Being a closeted gay athlete doesn't give you the right to ruin other people's lives.
2013-07-09 03:54:52 PM
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: There's no more reason to assume she's absolutely right than there is for OP's supposition or any of the explanations I offered. Some require a bit more assumption (or "reaching") than others, but TFA also suggests she and J-Coll haven't been besties since then. It's entirely possible that something other than "Jason's a big meanie who just stopped talking to me one day and then he broke our engagement and only 4 years later did I find out it's cause he's gay" is the truth.


Certainly, but to her credit it sounds like she just wants to open dialogue for the sake of bringing closure. Whether there were actions on her part that led to Collins bringing the relationship to such an abrupt end or not, I'm not going to fault someone at least wanting to hear a direct explanation.

I'm not going to haul off and call Collins an asshole, either. Society didn't exactly make it easy on Collins to be who he is comfortably.
2013-07-09 02:36:03 PM
2 votes:

Ow! That was my feelings!: So the first openly gay NBA player is a jerk. They really are like everyone else.

//yes, lying to someone for years about your relationship is a dick move.


Or, perhaps, more difficult than you could ever farking imagine due to societal norms and one's psychological environment.
2013-07-09 05:12:46 PM
1 votes:

Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.


I'm sure our culture of discrimination and prejudice had nothing at all to do with that.
2013-07-09 05:10:40 PM
1 votes:

Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.


Hey look, someone that knows absolutely, positively jack shiat about the pressures of male athletes who are in the closet.
2013-07-09 03:58:58 PM
1 votes:
I know everyone is calling the guy heartless because he dumped her but isn't it much better than go ahead with the marriage? Plenty of gay people hide who they are by having straight relationships, it happens but at least he had the forethought of not getting married or having children with her. Did he know that he was gay when he started the relationship? Did he hang on in hopes that he was straight? There are a lot of variables before we go off branding the guy a monster
2013-07-09 03:38:00 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.

Because his decision to reveal portions of his private life is all about a woman he was engaged to back in the double-barrels a presidential term ago. While it's possible he just up and said "Peace, woman" without another word, more likely is that he wasn't fully comfortable admitting he's gay (or hadn't realized it beyond "I don't want to be with you"), which makes sense with a 4-year delay in between calling off the engagement and the big announcement. It's not as easy as finding out you're pregnant and announcing that to the world.

Or they had a few heart-to-hearts and she still can't understand his "decision" to be gay. TFA doesn't mention her age (weird, right?), but if she's north of 40 and/or from a conservative background, it's entirely possible she believes some prayer (or an "old-fashioned") would "cure" him.


Actually the article says that she didn't find out about teh ghey until after his coming out party and he still has not attempted to contact her.

I think the 4 year delay was because even in 2009 things were still not exactly progressive with regards to homosexuality. Now you have multiple states endorsing gay marriage, DOMA is overturned and while there is far from equality the pendulum has definitely swung away from the conservatives.

She is 35 now so this whole thing started when she was 23 and ended when she was 31. That's a lot of time to invest on what turned out to be a sham.

On another note I found out she is 6'6. Holy crap!
2013-07-09 03:35:36 PM
1 votes:

degenerate-afro: Didn't we already go over this story back when the news came out or am I imagining that thread?


I guess there's an interview with her in the new Cosmo magazine and she's out making the interview rounds. Probably the reason this is news again.
2013-07-09 03:17:44 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.

Because his decision to reveal portions of his private life is all about a woman he was engaged to back in the double-barrels a presidential term ago. While it's possible he just up and said "Peace, woman" without another word, more likely is that he wasn't fully comfortable admitting he's gay (or hadn't realized it beyond "I don't want to be with you"), which makes sense with a 4-year delay in between calling off the engagement and the big announcement. It's not as easy as finding out you're pregnant and announcing that to the world.

Or they had a few heart-to-hearts and she still can't understand his "decision" to be gay. TFA doesn't mention her age (weird, right?), but if she's north of 40 and/or from a conservative background, it's entirely possible she believes some prayer (or an "old-fashioned") would "cure" him.


Wow. I'm surprised you didn't pop a hamstring jumping to all those conclusions.
2013-07-09 02:58:12 PM
1 votes:

velvet_fog: I have a friend in college who recently came out as a lesbian. I'm happy for her, especially since she has a hot girlfriend. However, she dumped a long term boyfriend before coming out last year. I feel kinda bad for that guy - I wonder if he blames himself for her going the gay way.


A few years ago I had a girlfriend--well, somewhere between a fling and a girlfriend--who a couple years later decided to start living as a man.  I knew from the start she was bi trending towards lesbian so when I saw a messageboard post by her called "I'm coming out" I thought I knew what I was going to read, but needless to say I wasn't expecting that.  Most of the rest of the post consisted of various iterations of "The Third Man made me do this" and "if The Third Man hadn't dumped me (note: I dumped her because she was beyond crazy and at various points I was concerned for my safety) I'd still be happy to be a woman but now I feel tainted and I can't even look at myself in the mirror and and and...."

So, yeah, I kind of know how that guy feels.  I mean if she wanted to be F-to-M transgender, that's fine, but to claim that I was somehow at fault for it, I don't know man.
2013-07-09 02:55:17 PM
1 votes:

Igor Jakovsky: Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.


Because his decision to reveal portions of his private life is all about a woman he was engaged to back in the double-barrels a presidential term ago. While it's possible he just up and said "Peace, woman" without another word, more likely is that he wasn't fully comfortable admitting he's gay (or hadn't realized it beyond "I don't want to be with you"), which makes sense with a 4-year delay in between calling off the engagement and the big announcement. It's not as easy as finding out you're pregnant and announcing that to the world.

Or they had a few heart-to-hearts and she still can't understand his "decision" to be gay. TFA doesn't mention her age (weird, right?), but if she's north of 40 and/or from a conservative background, it's entirely possible she believes some prayer (or an "old-fashioned") would "cure" him.
2013-07-09 02:54:46 PM
1 votes:
 what is that unsightly mass on her pinky finger?
2013-07-09 02:34:00 PM
1 votes:
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2013-07-09 02:23:35 PM
1 votes:
So the first openly gay NBA player is a jerk. They really are like everyone else.

//yes, lying to someone for years about your relationship is a dick move.
2013-07-09 02:20:57 PM
1 votes:
Yup, strung her along for 8 years to the point of breaking the wedding a month prior with no explanation. She has spent the last 4 hurt and confused. Some hero. He farked over the one person who probably loved and trusted him the most.
2013-07-09 02:20:01 PM
1 votes:
dafuq is up with that pinky?
2013-07-09 01:12:47 PM
1 votes:
She should've been clued in when he kept accidentally saying "power-bottom" instead of "power-forward" every time they talked.
2013-07-09 01:00:42 PM
1 votes:
RTFA, subby.  Ex-fiancee.  From years prior.
 
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