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(TSN)   For those who aren't fans, yes the season is over & yes they still do things during the summer. For us fans, the Hockey Hall of Fame is announcing this year's inductees at 3pm Eastern. Nieds seems to be a lock, but the others?   (tsn.ca) divider line 39
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2013-07-09 08:28:44 AM  
Chelios is also a lock subby.
I think Shanahan gets the nod but it's not a sure thing. After that, God only knows...
 
2013-07-09 08:33:28 AM  
His best nickname is Naselheimer.

But yeah...I assume both he and Chelios are a lock.
 
2013-07-09 08:38:20 AM  
Niedermayer is getting in today. Chelios is getting in someday, maybe today -- three Norris trophies spread over ten years and five first-team selections makes you a Hall of Famer even if you didn't play till you're geriatric. I wouldn't begrudge Blake, Karyia or Naslund. Kariya and Naslund both had better careers than you realize. Both three time first-team all-stars and Hart runners-up. Naslund has that stupid-handsome Swede gene. Blake is more borderline. Very good offensively for a very long time, but he was never truly one of the best defensemen in the league -- even if he did win a Norris. Brind'amour probably shouldn't get in, but he has that "leadership" tag that can vault players reputations above what the numbers say.
 
2013-07-09 08:43:36 AM  
Of course Chelios is a lock, however I was pushing up against the 250 character limit for the headline... so...

Shanahan probably should get the nod but will the voters be able to get past his "as miserable & inconsistent as Campbell" job performance recently.  Blake will probably get in eventually but I don't know if he should get the first year nod. Brind'Amour has the numbers that the committee likes but with him too I don't think he'll get the first year nod.

It would be nice if this is the year that Makarov finally gets in, sadly I doubt it though.

We'll find out in about 6 hours one way or another I guess.
 
2013-07-09 09:00:16 AM  
*phone ring*

"Hello."

"Hello Mr Niedermeyer, we're calling to congratulate you on being selected for entry in the Hockey Hall of Fame."

"Wow, thank you.  This is such an honor.  I am so pleased to..."  CLANG!!

"Hello?  Scotta re you there?"

"Yes, sorry.  Daniel Alfredsson was just congratulating me.  Good thing I was wearing my chest protector."
 
2013-07-09 09:19:40 AM  
Chelios is also a lock, Kariya could get in on a first-year ballot too.  Kariya is a Hall of Famer, the only question is whether he's a first ballot-type.  I'm not sure Naslund is really hall worthy though.  395 goals and 869 points look like big numbers, until you realize he only had three seasons with 80+ points.
 
2013-07-09 09:26:11 AM  
Niedermonster and Chelly are both locks.  Niedermayer had the classic Ted Kazcinski playoff beard, difficult to ignore that.  Chelios lost a week to drowning his sorrows after losing in the Cup Finals to Pittsburgh.  Shanny should have been in last year.  Kariya probably not today, but soon.  Naslund and Brind'Amour both possible but longer shots than the others.
 
2013-07-09 10:11:27 AM  
Holy crap....Kariya is eligible already??? Seems like I just saw him playing a season or two ago.

Getting old sucks :-)

/Hope Chelios gets in
//Watched him here at Wisconsin when I was a wee laddie
 
2013-07-09 10:14:03 AM  

Flappyhead: *phone ring*

"Hello."

"Hello Mr Niedermeyer, we're calling to congratulate you on being selected for entry in the Hockey Hall of Fame."

"Wow, thank you.  This is such an honor.  I am so pleased to..."  CLANG!!

"Hello?  Scotta re you there?"

"Yes, sorry.  Daniel Alfredsson was just congratulating me.  Good thing I was wearing my chest protector."


Awesome - and completely true....

***

Re: the people mentioning Kariya

As probably the biggest Ducks fan here on Fark (at least from what I've seen on the threads), I should be all for this but I'm not (and no, it's not leftover long ago butthurt about the way that he left the team).  His Anaheim years were incredible & if he had stayed with the one team & kept the production fairly high there would be no question about it.  Watching him & Teemu work together was just a joy to behold (probably the big reason why I don't begrudge him going to COL as they wanted to play together again - the big FU over the money on the other hand....).  Once he left Anaheim though his production was never again as good & he was constantly injured.  It's his later half of his career that makes me question whether or not he should ultimately be in the HHOF.  Of course there are plenty of arguments along the lines of "if 'x' is in The Hall, Paul should be too" & seeing some who are the 'x', I really can't argue that too much.  He was certainly much better than some of them.

If anything he shouldn't be voted in until or after Teemu is eligible... hopefully a decade from now or so.

/if he does get in his display needs a looping clip of the '03 SCF hit by Stevens that not only knocked him out but stopped his breathing & then him coming back a while later to score.  That is one of the 'Jesus, hockey players are tough' moments of all time.
 
2013-07-09 11:23:26 AM  

Wolsey: Chelios is also a lock subby.
I think Shanahan gets the nod but it's not a sure thing. After that, God only knows...


Shanahan was jilted last year because all of the Torontonians on the committee needed to make sure Sundin got in right away.

Three of the four slots should be obvious: Niedermayer, Chelios, Shanahan.  But, since they are so obvious, the odds are 50/50 one gets left out.  I'd actually find these guys and high five them if it was Chelios.

The fourth could be Blake, but I personally think it is time they correct another old mistake and put Andreychuk in.

And, of course, Pat Burns will inexplicably get overlooked again.
 
2013-07-09 11:37:30 AM  
Resolute:

And, of course, Pat Burns will inexplicably get overlooked again.

Sadly this is true.  I still can't believe they passed on him the first year.
 
2013-07-09 12:00:38 PM  

gretzkyscores: Holy crap....Kariya is eligible already??? Seems like I just saw him playing a season or two ago.

Getting old sucks :-)

/Hope Chelios gets in
//Watched him here at Wisconsin when I was a wee laddie


I remember watching him at UMaine when I was in college(URI, but URI hockey did not exist, so I followed my home state's team).
 
2013-07-09 12:05:39 PM  

Recoil Therapy: /if he does get in his display needs a looping clip of the '03 SCF hit by Stevens that not only knocked him out but stopped his breathing & then him coming back a while later to score.  That is one of the 'Jesus, hockey players are tough' moments of all time.


No stats, no 'career summary', just that clip. It's really all he needs to get in.

/If Owen Nolan were a HoF-er, it'd be the called shot in the All-Star Game.
 
2013-07-09 12:41:06 PM  

Resolute: And, of course, Pat Burns will inexplicably get overlooked again.


I hope not, Really pulling for Burns. Fred Shero's also in the running though...
 
2013-07-09 12:56:33 PM  
Pat.
Farking.
Burns.

That is all.
 
2013-07-09 01:11:18 PM  
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2013-07-09 01:13:14 PM  

Resolute: Three of the four slots should be obvious: Niedermayer, Chelios, Shanahan.  But, since they are so obvious, the odds are 50/50 one gets left out.  I'd actually find these guys and high five them if it was Chelios.

The fourth could be Blake, but I personally think it is time they correct another old mistake and put Andreychuk in.


or Fleury.
 
2013-07-09 01:32:39 PM  
There are a lot of guys you could make a case for, but I don't think any will get enough votes. Roenick, Kariya, Blake, Brind'Amour, Naslund, hell even Lindros...
Magilny, Makarov... Andreychuk, Housley, Fleury...
 
2013-07-09 02:02:08 PM  
As for the Philadelphia market goes, Lindros owned Philly like Iverson, but did the love affair last long enough?  Nope.  I am not an avid fan as many of you, but I believe it is a little too soon for him.  His career was too short IMO and shouldn't get in at all.  If he dominated for 5 years, would that be long enough?
 
2013-07-09 02:25:29 PM  
Chelios
Makarov
Neidermeyer
Shanahan
James Creighton
 
2013-07-09 02:30:47 PM  
I wonder if Lindros' Mom has called all the voting members yet.
 
2013-07-09 02:52:50 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: As for the Philadelphia market goes, Lindros owned Philly like Iverson, but did the love affair last long enough?  Nope.  I am not an avid fan as many of you, but I believe it is a little too soon for him.  His career was too short IMO and shouldn't get in at all.  If he dominated for 5 years, would that be long enough?


No.

He had some great numbers, but he was a spoiled brat who got his way at least twice more than he should have hockey wise. and as Batmanatee eluded to, some very enabling parents.
 
2013-07-09 03:07:08 PM  
Chelios is in.
Niedermier
and Shanahan
 
2013-07-09 03:08:44 PM  
Geraldine Heaney in on the womens side

Fred Shero is the builder this year... still no Burns
 
2013-07-09 04:00:32 PM  
They have a hall of fame for Hockey?
 
2013-07-09 04:03:09 PM  
What the farking fark, HHOF?  Pat Burns > Fred Shero

The rest of the inductees this year I've got no problem with.
 
2013-07-09 04:08:13 PM  
Fisty Bum: I know nothing about hockey.
 
2013-07-09 04:19:16 PM  

PacificaFitz: They have a hall of fame for Hockey?


As far as the Halls of Fame go, the HHOF is by far the best.  Just a very cool setup.
 
2013-07-09 04:31:41 PM  

PacificaFitz: They have a hall of fame for Hockey?


yup
 
2013-07-09 05:00:17 PM  
Congrats, Cheli, you da man.
 
2013-07-09 05:30:13 PM  

PacificaFitz: They have a hall of fame for Hockey?


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2013-07-09 06:49:38 PM  
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I wasn't aware you could get into the HoF for best being know for somebody who was good at getting concussed. There really is a snowflake award for everything.
 
2013-07-09 07:45:13 PM  
Chelly should go in as a blackhawk, but will shanny go in as a whaler or a wing?
 
2013-07-09 08:01:41 PM  

45cal: Chelly should go in as a blackhawk, but will shanny go in as a whaler or a wing?


Wing. He was only with the Whalers for two seasons... and he was on three cup teams in Detroit.
 
2013-07-09 09:04:33 PM  
Phil Housley and Dave Andreychuk should both be in the HHOF on stats alone.

And yet they never get any consideration.
 
2013-07-09 09:07:49 PM  

45cal: Chelly should go in as a blackhawk, but will shanny go in as a whaler or a wing?


You're thinking of baseball.

Hockey players aren't inducted into the HHOF as a member of any particular team. They're simply inducted as players.
 
2013-07-09 09:57:13 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Phil Housley and Dave Andreychuk should both be in the HHOF on stats alone.

And yet they never get any consideration.



Unfortunately, I think the committee uses 'shot length of goals' as a determining metric...
 
2013-07-10 06:40:26 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Phil Housley and Dave Andreychuk should both be in the HHOF on stats alone.

And yet they never get any consideration.


I am shocked that you're advocating for those two. Just shocked.

Seriously, though, I think both get in eventually. You can't forever ignore their numbers. But based on comparisons to their generation they don't loom as large. They weren't dominating their peers and all. Which is enough to make them wait, but not to keep them out.

The ones I have my doubts about from this class are Lindros and Kariya. Both had stellar peaks and respectable careers, but I just don't see either as having had the resumé to qualify. Neither would be an outrage for admission, but they would seem a bit weak or desperate. Same with Blake. None of those guys are undeserving, per se, but they'd seem a little out of place.
 
2013-07-10 12:47:42 PM  
I think the only thing that might help Lindros get in at some point in the future is his international record. He was a beast for Canada at all levels and its the HHOF not the NHL HOF. He will still need a weak class which shouldn't happen for some time. The players who got in this year were unquestionably correct. Burns should be in though.
 
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