IdBeCrazyIf: Seems like only the extremists are upset over the military stepping in, and sounds increasingly like the moderates and liberals are telling them to go farking fly a kite.
IamAwake: In our first trip to Iraq in the early 90s, the military was pretty self-sufficient with most things, logistics aside. A mere decade later - not so much. Converting the contractors to regulars is one thing, but why were the regulars turned into contractors in the last 10-20 years in the first place?
plewis: Yes and no. The MB actually is the moderate islamist organization in the middle east. Their ouster in Egypt negatively impacts the Brotherhood orgs in Syria, Tunisia, and Jordan. The various jihadist factions are now pointing to Cairo and saying-- "See, democracy won't allow a legitimately elected Islamic org to stay in power. We have to go kill people and seize power if we want it." The tough spot the military has put itself in- Even though they weren't big fans of the MB, they have now given legitimacy to large-scale unrest as a form of political participation and weakened their position for governing /maintaining order going forward. The next civilian branch formed may face the same protests when the economy or social landscape gets rough. Does the military then remove them and further weaken their position? Rinse, repeat every 6 months until the country becomes a chaotic protest culture that devolves into civil war? Democracy is chipping away at the military's control of Egypt. They need a civilian branch they can work with co-operatively and one they are willing to defend in the face of widespread protests and economic stress.Yes, but it was an Islamist organization in an increasingly secular country. Egyptians looked around at Afghanistan and Iran and decided that that wasn't acceptable. They tried the democratic process, appealing to the officials in charge and appealing to the courts. They got nowhere so they went to the streets. The military benefits from a stable society and did what they did the last time people went to the streets. The funny thing about the Military in Egypt is that they have no ideology. They simply want everyone to chill the fark out. WHY? Because they are both a military and the largest diversified corporation in the country, running hotels, manufacturing, etc. Unrest is bad for business.
plewis: Many will die or blow themselves up.
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