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(Mother Nature Network)   The good news is that mark on your arm isn't a spider bite like you thought it was. The bad news is it's probably a flea bite or MRSA   (mnn.com) divider line 44
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2013-07-09 07:36:10 AM  
Who is Mr. Sa and why is he biting people?
 
2013-07-09 07:57:29 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Who is Mr. Sa and why is he biting people?


Maybe he's a zombie.
 
2013-07-09 08:11:14 AM  

xanadian: I_Am_Weasel: Who is Mr. Sa and why is he biting people?

Maybe he's a zombie.


He can certainly make you look like one quickly enough...
 
2013-07-09 08:37:08 AM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-07-09 08:40:04 AM  
That is good news--I thought we would have to break up the band.
 
2013-07-09 08:43:26 AM  
HOW DO WE KILL IT??

/obscure?
 
2013-07-09 08:44:11 AM  
I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...
 
2013-07-09 08:48:47 AM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-07-09 08:49:04 AM  
I've had spider bites before, biopsied, etc.  Seeing how my hand is ballooning up right now w/ pain and itching, this is relevant to my interests (can't close my fist, need to get some antihistamine).  The bite was yesterday, and I live in an area where biting spiders are a rarity, unless it came w/ my little palm tree that's in my apt.  Looks like fang marks, but it could be multiple bites from something else, and for the first time ever, I'm getting a minor allergic reaction.

/boring story bro.
 
2013-07-09 08:54:46 AM  
Or it's lupus.

/Idiots, scared of your shadows.
 
2013-07-09 08:58:37 AM  
"I've been handling spiders for almost 20 years, and I've never been bitten,"
"I've had 100 recluse spiders running up my arm, and I've never been bitten by one," Vetter told LiveScience.


This man is either an idiot, lying, or both; and makes the rest of us scientists look bad.
 
2013-07-09 09:02:42 AM  

peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...


And what are the symptoms? I'm asking because my daughter and I have both gotten spots recently that my wife and I thought might be bites, although I wasn't convinced. They would end up with a red area about the size of a dime, eventually develop a small pus pocket, almost like a giant zit, and ache down at least an inch underneath. 3 weeks later, and I still have a small scab where the last one was. Been trying to figure out what they are...

Of course, the article doesn't mention that you can usually identify a spider bite by the two small holes in the center, and a stinging insect by a single tiny hole. I don't expect much of anything out of Live Science though, so this is actually a pretty well done article, considering the source.
 
2013-07-09 09:02:45 AM  
The article could have been useful if they had posted some photos so that we could actually compare what a spider bite looks like compared to a flea bite or MRSA infection.
 
2013-07-09 09:05:58 AM  

LoneVVolf: This man is either an idiot, lying, or both; and makes the rest of us scientists look bad.


It's this one that got me:  Buddle said he has observed spiders "moving their fangs back and forth against his skin," all to no avail.

Now I'll admit to doing stupid shiat in the lab, mostly involving supercooled gases, but the thought of letting a spider sit on my arm and try to bite me sets off all sorts of evolutionary fire alarms.
 
2013-07-09 09:08:11 AM  

northguineahills: I've had spider bites before, biopsied, etc.  Seeing how my hand is ballooning up right now w/ pain and itching, this is relevant to my interests (can't close my fist, need to get some antihistamine).  The bite was yesterday, and I live in an area where biting spiders are a rarity, unless it came w/ my little palm tree that's in my apt.  Looks like fang marks, but it could be multiple bites from something else, and for the first time ever, I'm getting a minor allergic reaction.

/boring story bro.


Get your ass to a doctor TODAY.

A couple of years ago I had what looked like a spider bite low on my leg, it swelled up incredibly large over 24 hours (to the point where the skin split & fluid was leaking out at a pretty good rate).  The next day it was still swollen but there was a dark spot in the middle of it about the size of a penny.  I called my doc & got an appointment for the next day, at which time the dark spot had grown to a little bigger than a quarter.  He said he didn't have a good idea what was going on & sent me to a wound specialist who's first appointment was the next day.  By the next day the spot was about silver dollar sized & the instant he walked into the room he asked if I knew where the hospital was & just how fast I could get there.  Trust me, that's NOT a good way to meet a doctor for the first time.  Anyway, the whole thing was (nonMRSA thankfully) necrotizing fasciitis (flesh eating bacteria) which kept me in the hospital for 2 weeks & 4 operations.  He later said that if I had waited one more day before seeing him that I would have lost the leg.  They eventually had to carve out a hole in my leg about the size of a dinner plate to get all the dying flesh.  Two years later & it's healing right on schedule.... it's closed up to about a saucer sized hole now.  And I consider myself very lucky seeing how bad it could have & should have been...

Don't fark around, get to a doctor TODAY

/also don't google NF unless you have a REALLY strong stomach
 
2013-07-09 09:12:00 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: LoneVVolf: This man is either an idiot, lying, or both; and makes the rest of us scientists look bad.

It's this one that got me:  Buddle said he has observed spiders "moving their fangs back and forth against his skin," all to no avail.

Now I'll admit to doing stupid shiat in the lab, mostly involving supercooled gases, but the thought of letting a spider sit on my arm and try to bite me sets off all sorts of evolutionary fire alarms.


I suppose if you do it enough, you get use to the idea.  Kinda like when I spent a couple of summers working with a bee keeper.  When bees first start landing on you, there's a bit of a 'yikes!' factor but after a few stings, the whole thing becomes pretty 'meh'.
 
2013-07-09 09:14:11 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: LoneVVolf: This man is either an idiot, lying, or both; and makes the rest of us scientists look bad.

It's this one that got me:  Buddle said he has observed spiders "moving their fangs back and forth against his skin," all to no avail.

Now I'll admit to doing stupid shiat in the lab, mostly involving supercooled gases, but the thought of letting a spider sit on my arm and try to bite me sets off all sorts of evolutionary fire alarms.


There are mosquito researchers who allow boxes full of mosquitoes to feed on their arms.
 
2013-07-09 09:19:40 AM  
Only about a dozen of the approximately 40,000 spider species worldwide can cause serious harm to the average healthy adult human
I bet they all can be found in Australia

Nowadays, deaths from the bite are rare thanks to widow spider antivenom. Before this was developed, however, treatments for black widow bites included whiskey, cocaine and nitroglycerine,

Well fark the antivenom then doc, hit me up with a bottle of Jack and a couple 8-balls of coke! It's spider party city for me!
 
2013-07-09 09:21:05 AM  

Mikey1969: peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...

And what are the symptoms? I'm asking because my daughter and I have both gotten spots recently that my wife and I thought might be bites, although I wasn't convinced. They would end up with a red area about the size of a dime, eventually develop a small pus pocket, almost like a giant zit, and ache down at least an inch underneath. 3 weeks later, and I still have a small scab where the last one was. Been trying to figure out what they are...

Of course, the article doesn't mention that you can usually identify a spider bite by the two small holes in the center, and a stinging insect by a single tiny hole. I don't expect much of anything out of Live Science though, so this is actually a pretty well done article, considering the source.


In my experience, If you have MRSA infection you would not be questioning it after three weeks. My son has has this twice and
I can tell you, we were at the Doc within hours getting treatment. Swelling of epic proportions happens quickly. I dunno, I certainly would be showing it to some medical professional after three weeks of painful ugly though....

Even after quickly seeking treatment (within  like 2 hours of the puss filled nasty showing up),  he has scaring on his arms from the infection. We don't have insurance and are not real quick to run to the Doc's office. In these cases I had his carcass loaded in the car and was standing in front of the Doc within 30 minutes.  He had to return to the Doc daily for a couple days to have it reviewed.
The Doc's don't play when they have this crap show up in their office.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-09 09:22:07 AM  
Dear humans,

Please stop swatting us.

Love,
Spiders
 
2013-07-09 09:30:06 AM  

ZAZ: Dear humans,

Please stop swatting us.

Love,
Spiders


I have no problem with spiders. It's the huge purple/black hornets the size of your damn thumb that like to try and sting you in the eye that freak me the fark out.
 
2013-07-09 09:30:12 AM  

ZAZ: Dear humans,
Please stop swatting us.
Love,
Spiders


You and the house centipedes are perfectly welcome to live in my house so long as you stay in your own areas (basement and attic).  Invade MY space and you will be swatted.  kthnx.
 
2013-07-09 09:31:10 AM  
Those are two very different levels of "bad news."
 
2013-07-09 09:32:32 AM  
Clinic I worked in in NC people brought every form of spider and some not in all sorts of crushed states point to all the identifiers of it being a brown recluse, we happened to be near a university, the resident arachnid guy reviewed as many as he could for his own fun i guess and what he described as close to a million specimens his lab took from the clinic and others sent in never a single brown recluse.  It needs a better publicist millions of spiders are dying in fear of it
 
2013-07-09 09:35:14 AM  

WillofJ2: Clinic I worked in in NC people brought every form of spider and some not in all sorts of crushed states point to all the identifiers of it being a brown recluse, we happened to be near a university, the resident arachnid guy reviewed as many as he could for his own fun i guess and what he described as close to a million specimens his lab took from the clinic and others sent in never a single brown recluse.  It needs a better publicist millions of spiders are dying in fear of it


My co-worker insists that she sees them all the time at her place in Maryland. I keep trying to tell her that "seeing it all the time" and "recluse" are incompatible.
 
2013-07-09 09:36:25 AM  

no_tan_lines: In my experience, If you have MRSA infection you would not be questioning it after three weeks. My son has has this twice and
I can tell you, we were at the Doc within hours getting treatment. Swelling of epic proportions happens quickly. I dunno, I certainly would be showing it to some medical professional after three weeks of painful ugly though....


That's good news...

The bad news is that I have no idea what we had and if it's gonna come back. My daughter had faint infection tracers coming from hers. Weird spot is that they were in roughly the same place, mine was just a week after hers and I had one less spot...
 
2013-07-09 09:36:30 AM  
Old treatments for black widow bites included whiskey, cocaine and nitroglycerine,
Come here little spider.
 
2013-07-09 09:39:24 AM  

LoneVVolf: "I've been handling spiders for almost 20 years, and I've never been bitten,"
"I've had 100 recluse spiders running up my arm, and I've never been bitten by one," Vetter told LiveScience.

This man is either an idiot, lying, or both; and makes the rest of us scientists look bad.


It's LiveScience, shiattiest "science" website I've ever seen...

Mirandized: The article could have been useful if they had posted some photos so that we could actually compare what a spider bite looks like compared to a flea bite or MRSA infection.


See above statement regarding LiveScience...
 
2013-07-09 09:41:34 AM  

ZAZ: Dear humans,

Please stop swatting us.

Love,
Spiders


LOL, had one a few weeks ago that decided overnight that the electric eye sensor on the garage door opener was a great place to build her egg sac. Nobody bothered to tell me that the garage door was open all morning(And nobody thought to troubleshoot). Sorry, but that baby's babies are no more. You can't really relocate those things.
 
2013-07-09 09:43:13 AM  

Mikey1969: peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...

And what are the symptoms? I'm asking because my daughter and I have both gotten spots recently that my wife and I thought might be bites, although I wasn't convinced. They would end up with a red area about the size of a dime, eventually develop a small pus pocket, almost like a giant zit, and ache down at least an inch underneath. 3 weeks later, and I still have a small scab where the last one was. Been trying to figure out what they are...

Of course, the article doesn't mention that you can usually identify a spider bite by the two small holes in the center, and a stinging insect by a single tiny hole. I don't expect much of anything out of Live Science though, so this is actually a pretty well done article, considering the source.


I've had something very similar. Had it, went away for a couple of weeks, came back, and has subsided with no more pain, but there's still a mark there that's been there for a little while. I've got my yearly appt with my dermatologist on Friday, and I'm going to ask about it. EIP if you want me to let you know what I found out.
 
2013-07-09 09:57:03 AM  
I love spiders but I will admit the close up pics of them do kind of creep me out
 
2013-07-09 10:03:29 AM  
TheChaosPath:

I've had something very similar. Had it, went away for a couple of weeks, came back, and has subsided with no more pain, but there's still a mark there that's been there for a little while. I've got my yearly appt with my dermatologist on Friday, and I'm going to ask about it. EIP if you want me to let you know what I found out.

Thanks dude... BTW, checking out your website now. Looks very good, hope you've got some Stone Brewing reviews on there, or plans for some. :-)
 
2013-07-09 10:20:58 AM  

Mikey1969: TheChaosPath:

I've had something very similar. Had it, went away for a couple of weeks, came back, and has subsided with no more pain, but there's still a mark there that's been there for a little while. I've got my yearly appt with my dermatologist on Friday, and I'm going to ask about it. EIP if you want me to let you know what I found out.

Thanks dude... BTW, checking out your website now. Looks very good, hope you've got some Stone Brewing reviews on there, or plans for some. :-)


Thanks! They're definitely on the list - my brewing buddy is a big fan of them, so I'll be asking his opinion on which one to go to first. Do you have a favorite of theirs?
 
2013-07-09 10:38:43 AM  

TheChaosPath: Thanks! They're definitely on the list - my brewing buddy is a big fan of them, so I'll be asking his opinion on which one to go to first. Do you have a favorite of theirs?


My absolute favorite is Arrogant Bastard. Been drinking it since about '96 when they carried it at the brewery I worked at in Phx. Looks like I got in on the ground floor. Really though, nothing they make is bad. All of the their IPAs are good, even their light stuff like Levitation is good. Their barleywine(Old Guardian) is absolutely amazing, too.

BTW, Utah has some good beers, but the most noteworthy currently would be Epic Brewing. If you have a chance and haven't checked them out, I would recommend it. The rest of the breweries hold their own, too. Squatter's, Uinta, Wasatch...
 
2013-07-09 10:53:34 AM  

Deep Contact: Old treatments for black widow bites included whiskey, cocaine and nitroglycerine,
Come here little spider.


At the same time? Sounds like a Hell of a party, guaranteed to make you forget about the spider bite for a week or two.
 
2013-07-09 10:55:29 AM  

Mikey1969: TheChaosPath: Thanks! They're definitely on the list - my brewing buddy is a big fan of them, so I'll be asking his opinion on which one to go to first. Do you have a favorite of theirs?

My absolute favorite is Arrogant Bastard. Been drinking it since about '96 when they carried it at the brewery I worked at in Phx. Looks like I got in on the ground floor. Really though, nothing they make is bad. All of the their IPAs are good, even their light stuff like Levitation is good. Their barleywine(Old Guardian) is absolutely amazing, too.

BTW, Utah has some good beers, but the most noteworthy currently would be Epic Brewing. If you have a chance and haven't checked them out, I would recommend it. The rest of the breweries hold their own, too. Squatter's, Uinta, Wasatch...


I've had a couple of Epic's, did like their Doppelbock quite a bit. Have the Uinta Sea Legs Baltic Porter up review sometime very soon. I think I'll definitely give that Stone Barleywine a go, definitely like that style.
 
2013-07-09 12:43:28 PM  
Lyme - biological warfare
 
2013-07-09 01:14:46 PM  

peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...


had MRSA and would be getting a kick out of these replies but it cost me my leg....


/busier than a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest....
 
2013-07-09 01:19:09 PM  

Mikey1969: peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...

And what are the symptoms? I'm asking because my daughter and I have both gotten spots recently that my wife and I thought might be bites, although I wasn't convinced. They would end up with a red area about the size of a dime, eventually develop a small pus pocket, almost like a giant zit, and ache down at least an inch underneath. 3 weeks later, and I still have a small scab where the last one was. Been trying to figure out what they are...


Yeah, that's probably MRSA. I just finished my second round of antibiotics, and they are starting to go away. your physical description of the abscesses is exactly why I didn't see a doctor for a while.. thought it was just really bad acne. MRSA sounds super scary, but my doctor told me that unless you get it in a clinical/hospital setting, or have an already weak immune system, it's not that big a deal, besides being difficult to clear up. But, yes... go see a doctor.
 
2013-07-09 01:19:51 PM  
I love spider bites!

Every time it happens I get to spend two weeks in the hospital with fevers between 103 and 105.5, delirious, and fighting cellulitis in both my legs.

Apparently my immune system thinks that the only response to a spider bite is the nuclear option, and then everything goes to hell.

/Doc said that it will eventually kill me.
 
2013-07-09 02:21:22 PM  

AnEvilBeagle: Mikey1969: peewinkle: I have MRSA so I am really getting a kick...

And what are the symptoms? Been trying to figure out what they are...

Yeah, that's probably MRSA. I just finished my second round of antibiotics, and they are starting to go away. your physical description of the abscesses is exactly why I didn't see a doctor for a while.. thought it was just really bad acne. MRSA sounds super scary, but my doctor told me that unless you get it in a clinical/hospital setting, or have an already weak immune system, it's not that big a deal, besides being difficult to clear up. But, yes... go see a doctor.

My son has had MRSA  twice, about 6 months apart. Of the 6 guys he worked with at the time, 5 ended up with MRSA infections within that time frame. According to the Doc who treated all 5 men, they 'caught' it at work. So, the statement that hospital or weak immune system may have been debunked. Health Dept was notified because so many men working in one place had the same ailment. Best they could figure is that the infection was carried in to the shop via customer vehicles (auto mechanics). Unhappy shop owner had to shut down, epic cleaning had to happen.

I purchase a lot of that 'tincture of brown stuff' they put on you pre surgery for use on mechanic arm boo boo situations. That silver gel goopa in a tube works well as a barrier to MRSA too from our usage history of the past few years. All I know is when I see what looks like a ingrown hair turn an arm or leg into OMFG! appearance within hours...I'm finding a Doc pronto!

 
2013-07-09 03:27:25 PM  
Funny story, when I first discovered I had MRSA, my mother thought the gigantic boil on my arm was a brown recluse spider bite.
 
2013-07-09 08:01:49 PM  
There are different forms of MRSA.  I caught mine while in the hospital after having a hip replacement surgery.  It comes and goes; I've been hospitalized three times since in order to receive IV antibiotics.  (Hospitals are the leading cause of people catching it).

If you even suspect that you may have it, see a doctor ASAP.  Some of the strains can kill you within a week.
 
2013-07-09 09:51:58 PM  
I can vouch for the whiskey and cocaine treatment. I've been using it as a preventative measure for years, and have never had symptoms.
 
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