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(KTAR Phoenix)   DUIs, sexual harassment, and rape be damned. You work such long hours it's about time your boss brought alcohol back into the office   (ktar.com) divider line 73
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2013-07-09 06:45:53 AM
I often wonder about the mindset of people who think our society is only one beer away from turning into a rape orgy of epic proportions.  they must live very fearful lives, forever terrified that the next beer or the next bong hit will turn the entire world into a whirlwind of non-stop sex and violation.
 
2013-07-09 06:56:10 AM
  We need more alcohol in society.  Maybe it will relax these uptight, PC jack offs that now seem to be everywhere and run everything.
 
2013-07-09 07:01:13 AM

Weaver95: I often wonder about the mindset of people who think our society is only one beer away from turning into a rape orgy of epic proportions.


It's the new definitions of things like rape and the hordes of neo-puritains willing to press charges on your behalf.

Do you know what a rape orgy is in the minds of these moral crusaders? Trigger warning:

Man: Honey, it's our anniversary and the kids are away at college this year.
Woman: Finally. Let's have a glass of wine and relax alone at home and then have some consensual sex.
Man: Let's have two glasses of wine.
Woman: Okay. Consensually.
 
2013-07-09 07:42:14 AM
  We have a kegorator in our break room.  No rapes or DUIs yet.
 
2013-07-09 07:42:32 AM

Weaver95: I often wonder about the mindset of people who think our society is only one beer away from turning into a rape orgy of epic proportions.  they must live very fearful lives, forever terrified that the next beer or the next bong hit will turn the entire world into a whirlwind of non-stop sex and violation.


Lager Madness
 
2013-07-09 07:57:21 AM
I sure would like it, but it's pretty insensitive to all those recovering from alcohol addiction.  Not worth it, IMO.
 
2013-07-09 07:58:32 AM

Weaver95: I often wonder about the mindset of people who think our society is only one beer away from turning into a rape orgy of epic proportions.  they must live very fearful lives, forever terrified that the next beer or the next bong hit will turn the entire world into a whirlwind of non-stop sex and violation.


The chance would be a fine thing...


Seriously though it's just a manifestation of the deluded do-gooders who feel it's their mission in life to protect us from our baser instincts.  The irony being, they're often found out as the most noxious people on the planet anyway.
 
2013-07-09 07:58:55 AM

Weaver95: they must live very fearful lives, forever terrified that the next beer or the next bong hit will turn the entire world into a whirlwind of non-stop sex and violation.


Fear?  Christ, that sounds like paradise to me...
 
2013-07-09 07:59:16 AM
My old company was bought out by a company that refused to allow even sealed up shipments of wine to be delivered to the office.   Of course these are also the farging bastages who fired me over the phone after 23 years of service.

My current job involves drinking coffee to about 5PM and then switching to wine.
 
2013-07-09 07:59:24 AM
I don't remember anyone getting falling down drunky or rapey at our office parties. I think most people realize that you will be working with these people on Monday so it's best not to cut loose.

Basically, I'd have a couple of friendly drinks and get back to work. On days like that, I learned that buses actually drive themselves. On downhill straightaways at least.
 
2013-07-09 08:00:11 AM
Given the rate of dui conviction in our office and the rate of alcoholism beyond that, I am divided. It's one thing to drink to relax, but our deal is so stressful that we all drink to cope.
 
2013-07-09 08:06:38 AM

bmongar:   We have a kegorator in our break room.  No rapes or DUIs yet.


The boss and I have coffee cup margaritas about 4 Fridays a year, he has yet to bring up sexual extortion.
 
2013-07-09 08:08:13 AM
Used to work at a place where 4PM Friday was beer run time. People worked about 2 or 3 hours extra a week just because it was such a relaxed atmosphere.
 
2013-07-09 08:08:35 AM
If you have a company-imposed limit on the number of alcoholic drinks they're willing to give you, you're probably an easily replaceable cog that shouldn't be drinking lest management finds some excuse to let you go.
 
2013-07-09 08:08:53 AM
I worked in a brewery for a couple of years. The only reason they took kegs out of the unionized break rooms was the purchase of powered lift jacks.  Once people started driving forklifts around it was generally understood to be a bad idea to provide beer.  When I was there they still called the short breaks 'bar', as in "Hey bill go to bar."  If you needed to send someone to break from across a noisy room you would extend your thumb and little fingers leaving all other fingers curled and imitate a drinking motion.  This all happened before my time but the removal of the kegs was still the biggest gripe in any union management meetings.
 
2013-07-09 08:09:05 AM

Tomahawk513: I sure would like it, but it's pretty insensitive to all those recovering from alcohol addiction.  Not worth it, IMO.


They can take care of themselves and there's a bar right around the corner anyway.
 
2013-07-09 08:11:17 AM
My only problem with this is that it would take away my motivation to get home and have a cold beer after a long day at the office.

I'd be in danger of becoming a workaholic.
 
2013-07-09 08:11:53 AM
I should also add that the non-union break room had a fully stocked beer fridge and that after work we were able to go enjoy free beers and discuss our day.  The amount of work that got done in that room was well worth the (pretty small without taxers and shipping) cost of the beer.
 
2013-07-09 08:14:43 AM
We have beer at work quite frequently.  You aren't allowed to work after you start drinking, do iCal, the first one my get out of work free beer.

/alcohol expected at all functions
 
2013-07-09 08:15:07 AM
Yeah, not seeing that trend come back in this sue happy nation.

/sir, will you please tell the jury in your own words why you allowed alcohol to be served at your work place, allowing your employee to leave work impaired, and thus causing him to wreck into my clients car killing their daughter who was on the way to soccer practice.......
 
2013-07-09 08:15:57 AM
If it would help me tap dat ass of the new lady in HR, I for one welcome a company kegger
 
2013-07-09 08:17:22 AM

Weaver95: I often wonder about the mindset of people who think our society is only one beer away from turning into a rape orgy of epic proportions.  they must live very fearful lives, forever terrified that the next beer or the next bong hit will turn the entire world into a whirlwind of non-stop sex and violation.


Came to say pretty much this. A couple beers after work and suddenly the marginally attractive girl from accounting is bent over the copier like Jodie Foster in The Accused? Seriously?
 
2013-07-09 08:17:23 AM
Ouch. That's going to be hard on the recovering alcoholics.

But what I really don't like about this is that it's just another way for Them to keep us happy *staying* at work, well in excess of the "40 hour" work week. And before you go snarking that nobody works a 40 hour week anyway, that's my point. People fought and died to achieve the 40 hour work week. In my father's day, it was a sign of success. Today, we humblebrag about working 50-70 hours.

When did that happen? Why did we participate?

It happened when we applauded in-house dry cleaning and gyms. We allowed it because, hey: free beer. At work.

I'd rather have the cash, thanks. Let me meet my work friends (or not) at a bar. Let's say on Thursday, after 5pm. You know: after we've punched out.

/end rant
 
2013-07-09 08:19:58 AM
I worked at a company where alcohol was served on site. Management style was... insultingly bad would be a good term.

How about just give me shorter work weeks and better wages instead, thanks.
 
2013-07-09 08:20:38 AM

brimed03: Ouch. That's going to be hard on the recovering alcoholics.


Have you ever considered what that other 38 hours a week is like for us non-recovering alcoholics, you insensitive bastard?
 
2013-07-09 08:22:58 AM
brimed03:Today, we humblebrag about working 50-70 hours.

When did that happen? Why did we participate?



I'm not participating. It's not that hard. You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-07-09 08:26:20 AM
Our office has a beer fridge.
 
2013-07-09 08:27:14 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: brimed03: Ouch. That's going to be hard on the recovering alcoholics.

Have you ever considered what that other 38 hours a week is like for us non-recovering alcoholics, you insensitive bastard?


Ok, I guffawed.
 
2013-07-09 08:31:18 AM
Our office has tons of booze on display in one conference room.  In 5 years, I've never seen a single bottle opened.  I think they put it there to f*ck with us.
 
2013-07-09 08:32:11 AM
Our office only works half a day on Christmas Eve. Back in the day someone made a beer run and we's all gather in the board room and shoot the shiat before departing for home. THen we got a new CEO who lost a leg in a drunk motorcycle accident 40+ years ago and suddenly thought alcohol was a tool of the debil.

/glad that little prick is gone now
 
2013-07-09 08:36:25 AM
The problem isn't the beer at happy hour.  It's the beer at happy hour, the poker match that breaks out in the CFO's office, and said CFO pulling out the bottles of Crown Royal from his desk during saidpoker game.  The next thing you know it's 11pm, you're blind drunk, and you're still way out in the 'burbs at the office.

/or so I've heard.
 
2013-07-09 08:37:48 AM
Once a month or so during decent weather we'd fire up the grill and cook some brats and people would bring other food and even the CEO would bring in beer.     At one point we even got the company to purchase a grill (we'd been using one of mine for a while).    Yeah that was another thing that came crashing down with the regime change.
 
2013-07-09 08:39:18 AM

WTFDYW: Back in the day someone made a beer run and we's all gather in the board room and shoot the shiat before departing for home. THen we got a new CEO who lost a leg in a drunk motorcycle accident 40+ years ago and suddenly thought alcohol was a tool of the debil.


So this is what people whine about their jobs these days?
 
2013-07-09 08:40:04 AM
I work for a French company. In our US offices, you are subject to random testing and will be dismissed if you come to work with alcohol in your system.

In Paris, you could buy wine in the cafeteria (bien sûr!), and it was SOP to have wine & champagne at office gatherings. People rarely drank at lunch, though. I got a glass of nouveau in November one year (they always had a big display set up). My colleagues looked at me and said, "You know that's crap wine, right?"

Same company, same business. Just one was farked up with Puritan morals.
 
2013-07-09 08:43:36 AM

GoldSpider: So this is what people whine about their jobs these days?


Adults don't like being treated like children. Who would have guessed, right?

People aren't machines and when management forgets that and starts treating employees like a piece of hardware, morale and productivity slips a lot more than if you had an impromptu cookout or happy hour a couple times a month.
 
2013-07-09 08:47:49 AM
Back in the .COM bubble days we used to have beer and liquor in the break room, a fun time was had by all,  of course that company didn't survive.
 
2013-07-09 08:50:57 AM
While flying out here to Kuwait I was sitting next to an Army Ranger with 30 years in service.  He was bemoaning how lame the Army has gotten and how anti-alcohol it has become.  He had a ton of stories about drinking in various cities, even taking beer out on training exercises.  He says the Army is boring these days.  Hell, my dad tells stories of having beer vending machines in barracks in the 60s.
 
2013-07-09 08:51:46 AM
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2013-07-09 08:52:13 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Adults don't like being treated like children. Who would have guessed, right?


Says someone who evidently doesn't work at an actual job with actual people.
 
2013-07-09 08:52:32 AM
Too many people watching mad men and getting jealous.
 
2013-07-09 08:52:39 AM

Tom_Slick: Back in the .COM bubble days we used to have beer and liquor in the break room, a fun time was had by all,  of course that company didn't survive.


That was probably more a function of the business model (or lack of one) than the been and liquor in the break room. I could not believe some of the insane companies that got funding.
 
2013-07-09 08:52:51 AM
GoldSpider

No. We have better things to do like getting rid of people like you.
 
2013-07-09 08:53:23 AM
We have a monthly happy hour where I work.  The wine is crap and so is the beer, but it is free and I have yet to see anyone there overdo it at the event (except perhaps at the bar after said happy hour where there are occasional 'after parties').  So far nobody's been harmed, except for their tastebuds.
 
2013-07-09 08:56:10 AM
I drink to escape the office, it would ruin it for me.
 
2013-07-09 08:59:53 AM

GoldSpider: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Adults don't like being treated like children. Who would have guessed, right?

Says someone who evidently doesn't work at an actual job with actual people.


So your contention is that adults need to be treated like children and enjoy it? I'd love to see you support that assertion. Please, enlighten me.
 
2013-07-09 09:02:19 AM
back when I worked for a news & mag. wholesale dist. we offered pizza and a few beers to the guys that loaded the trucks after a 8+ hour shift that ended when one driver ran over and killed a policeman and left the accident. True story he got killed in a freak accident a few months later when a landscapers ladder flew through his windshield.Some said it wasn't a accident.
 
2013-07-09 09:04:20 AM
Werner Herzog on chickens (somebody screwed up the video and put 'hipsters' instead - appropriate for this thread, though).

Also, this thread needs a soundtrack: Chicken Strut.
 
2013-07-09 09:05:04 AM
Oops - this is the booze thread, not the chicken thread.  Sorry.
 
2013-07-09 09:07:57 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I drink to escape the office, it would ruin it for me.


Exactly
 
2013-07-09 09:18:12 AM
when I first started working at Borders (many years ago),it was actually written into the handbook that we were allowed one drink on our break off work premises. It wasn't too long before they changed it, but while it lasted (and sometime after), it was a policy many of us utilized and it never caused problems. I think customer service actually improved.
 
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