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(C|Net)   Netflix: Why are we doing earnings calls when we have all of this streaming bandwidth?   (cnet.com ) divider line
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2013-07-09 08:30:49 AM  
"Earnings Call" is not available for streaming.
 
2013-07-09 08:43:45 AM  
Because you won't be able to get it to stream if you use Verizon for an ISP.
 
2013-07-09 08:54:41 AM  
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2013-07-09 09:16:57 AM  
I have a question. Why is "The Details" in every single streaming movie category right now? And why do you only add 10 or so legitimate hollywood films to your streaming service once every 3 months?

/Considering huluplus if this keeps up
 
2013-07-09 09:22:35 AM  

xkillyourfacex: I have a question. Why is "The Details" in every single streaming movie category right now? And why do you only add 10 or so legitimate hollywood films to your streaming service once every 3 months?

/Considering huluplus if this keeps up


Because movies, especially "legitimate hollywood films" are expensive.  There's a market for exclusive second-run movies, whether it's the premium networks (HBO, Showtime, etc.) or the cable networks (FX, ABC Family, etc.)  Netflix doesn't have much competition for reruns of 30 Rock or Parks and Recreation, but cable networks are willing to pay a lot of money for Hollywood movie rights, which makes it difficult for Netflix to get a good movie selection while keeping its price at $8/month.

And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.
 
2013-07-09 09:40:46 AM  

rugman11: And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.


Plus commercials that you can't fast forward thru...
 
2013-07-09 10:03:48 AM  
Well here's an idea - add some actual decent movies to netflick and you won't have all that bandwith to yourself. I don't think I plan to keep my account much longer, most of the TV shows are dated (80s or so) and movie selection (try to find any action heroes for example). Nothing.

Pretty much most of the good stuff is on DVD, however I am not interested when I can stream it instead.
 
2013-07-09 10:15:54 AM  

Torgo_of_Manos: rugman11: And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.

Plus commercials that you can't fast forward thru...


That is my biggest complaint about HuluPlus. I'm already paying, why the fark do I have to watch a commercial as well?
 
2013-07-09 10:33:51 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Torgo_of_Manos: rugman11: And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.

Plus commercials that you can't fast forward thru...

That is my biggest complaint about HuluPlus. I'm already paying, why the fark do I have to watch a commercial as well?


This is the primary reason I don't go with HuluPlus. I'm not going to pay them to throw ads at me.
 
2013-07-09 10:49:25 AM  
2 years ago, hollywood wanted a total figure (all studios) of 2 Billion dollars for licensing new movies.

This year, the studios want a combined TWENTY BILLION dollars to maintain those licenses.

/they think they can make more money hosting their own streaming service is my guess.
//it won't work, I don't want to maintain multiple accounts to watch different stuidos movies... and I'm sure you don't either.
 
2013-07-09 10:49:32 AM  

Misconduc: Well here's an idea - add some actual decent movies to netflick and you won't have all that bandwith to yourself.


Hollywood stopped making those a while back.   Now it's all shiatty live action cartoon comic book remakes for 13 year old boys who need their pathos dumbed down to costumed protagonists using superpowers to defeat grease painted villains.
 
2013-07-09 10:53:54 AM  

rugman11: And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.


Hulu Plus is worth their pittance of a monthly fee simply for their exclusive rights to the Criterion Collection.   Still, I agree it's not really a Netflix replacement, more of a supplement.    In the end it costs as much as seeing a mid-afternoon matinee at the local Multiplex 64 to see Reluctant Superhero Teenage Vampire Romance Part 3.
 
2013-07-09 11:44:55 AM  
Netflix is for cable-cutters that have young children.

That's where they make money.
 
2013-07-09 12:04:10 PM  

Vertdang: 2 years ago, hollywood wanted a total figure (all studios) of 2 Billion dollars for licensing new movies.

This year, the studios want a combined TWENTY BILLION dollars to maintain those licenses.


That is farking insane. I'll pay for Netflix streaming as it is even though I biatch about how over half the damned catalog isn't available for streaming. I'd pay $25 a month if I could get the full catalog and more recent releases. There is no god damned way I'm going to pay $9.99 to every damned studio who wants exclusive control of their back catalog and new releases.

It's bad enough that I have to either wait a year or buy the damned DVD if I want to watch a movie someplace other than in a theater with a crowd of inbred cretins who can only stop playing angry birds long enough to yell at the screen. fark it, more Dust and EVE time for me then.
 
2013-07-09 12:29:38 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: It's bad enough that I have to either wait a year or buy the damned DVD if I want to watch a movie someplace other than in a theater with a crowd of inbred cretins who can only stop playing angry birds long enough to yell at the screen. fark it, more Dust and EVE time for me then.


This is exactly why I love RedBox so much. Especially with the recent Dr. Pepper free movie rental promo that means getting new release Blu-Rays is only about 50 cents.

2 adults + popcorn and a drink (GF almost always wants to get them...) = almost $30
RedBox rental (without discount) = $1.60 for a Blu-Ray

Hell- in most cases, simply buying the Blu-Ray is going to be cheaper than a trip to the theater...
 
2013-07-09 01:10:44 PM  

Ashyukun: This is exactly why I love RedBox so much.


Netflix is good for me, because there are so few new movies that I want to see anyway.  2/3 of my neflix DVD movies are stuff from the 80's or earlier (Grosse Point Blank, though followed by The Hobbit), or films that didn't have a big theatric release.  Mrs Demented missed a TON of older movies, so its fun to watch them with her and have her see them for the first time, or sit her through stranger stuff like eXisteNce or Brazil.  When I walk up to a redbox, I see a wall of crap movies I have no interest in and walk away.  I get that it's great if you want a movie NOW, but with my schedule, it's so much better to get a movie in the mail and watch it in a day or two when I feel like it.
 
2013-07-09 01:32:38 PM  

PhDemented: Netflix is good for me, because there are so few new movies that I want to see anyway.  2/3 of my neflix DVD movies are stuff from the 80's or earlier (Grosse Point Blank, though followed by The Hobbit), or films that didn't have a big theatric release.  Mrs Demented missed a TON of older movies, so its fun to watch them with her and have her see them for the first time, or sit her through stranger stuff like eXisteNce or Brazil.  When I walk up to a redbox, I see a wall of crap movies I have no interest in and walk away.  I get that it's great if you want a movie NOW, but with my schedule, it's so much better to get a movie in the mail and watch it in a day or two when I feel like it.


The GF and I have rather differing tastes in movies (and most entertainment in general), and there are a decent number of new movies that at least one of us has an interest in seeing- but very few that we're willing to pony up the ridiculous amount it costs to see them in the theater these days. But being able to pick one up for roughly a dollar while getting groceries and watching at our leisure at home works quite well. We've not hit the point where we need Netflix or the likes to show each other movies that we really like but the other has never seen- we still have plenty in our own collections that meet that criteria. :P

I had Netflix (and before that Greencine) for quite a while when I had a long commute on the train, it was great to have a new DVD (usually an anime series) to pop in and watch half of on the commute in to work and the other half on the ride home. Kept it around for a good while, but found that a diminishing amount of time and having gone through most of what I really wanted to see from their selection didn't make it worthwhile any more.
 
2013-07-09 02:38:18 PM  

Vertdang: //it won't work, I don't want to maintain multiple accounts to watch different stuidos movies... and I'm sure you don't either.


Indeed.  It's the reason I go with Steam for my video game purchases.  It's not that I like Steam (I fully understand it is a DRM mechanism) its that I can pick up games from a multitude of different publishers whilst EA's Origin system and Ubisoft's uPlay are primarily there to see EA and Ubisoft titles respectively.

I'm also sure that each hypothetical subscription you'd take out would cost $15p/m and naturally be available to only one country (which is a farking retarded thing to do on a global communications network).  It'll also feature regular ad breaks for 'your enjoyment' as well.
 
2013-07-09 03:28:29 PM  
Redbox just announced they're teaming up with Verizon to offer a new subscription model.    $8 a month = 4 Kiosk DVD Rentals + Unlimited streaming from their online catalog.   No idea what their catalog will look like.
 
2013-07-09 05:27:41 PM  

Ashyukun: Monkeyhouse Zendo: It's bad enough that I have to either wait a year or buy the damned DVD if I want to watch a movie someplace other than in a theater with a crowd of inbred cretins who can only stop playing angry birds long enough to yell at the screen. fark it, more Dust and EVE time for me then.

This is exactly why I love RedBox so much. Especially with the recent Dr. Pepper free movie rental promo that means getting new release Blu-Rays is only about 50 cents.

2 adults + popcorn and a drink (GF almost always wants to get them...) = almost $30
RedBox rental (without discount) = $1.60 for a Blu-Ray

Hell- in most cases, simply buying the Blu-Ray is going to be cheaper than a trip to the theater...




Yeah, thanks to that Batman movie I can't sneak food in anymore.

/fark you batman movie
 
2013-07-09 05:28:51 PM  

PhDemented: Ashyukun: This is exactly why I love RedBox so much.

Netflix is good for me, because there are so few new movies that I want to see anyway.  2/3 of my neflix DVD movies are stuff from the 80's or earlier (Grosse Point Blank, though followed by The Hobbit), or films that didn't have a big theatric release.  Mrs Demented missed a TON of older movies, so its fun to watch them with her and have her see them for the first time, or sit her through stranger stuff like eXisteNce or Brazil.  When I walk up to a redbox, I see a wall of crap movies I have no interest in and walk away.  I get that it's great if you want a movie NOW, but with my schedule, it's so much better to get a movie in the mail and watch it in a day or two when I feel like it.


I'm guessing you don't play MMOs.
 
2013-07-09 07:08:51 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: PhDemented: Ashyukun: This is exactly why I love RedBox so much.

Netflix is good for me, because there are so few new movies that I want to see anyway.  2/3 of my neflix DVD movies are stuff from the 80's or earlier (Grosse Point Blank, though followed by The Hobbit), or films that didn't have a big theatric release.  Mrs Demented missed a TON of older movies, so its fun to watch them with her and have her see them for the first time, or sit her through stranger stuff like eXisteNce or Brazil.  When I walk up to a redbox, I see a wall of crap movies I have no interest in and walk away.  I get that it's great if you want a movie NOW, but with my schedule, it's so much better to get a movie in the mail and watch it in a day or two when I feel like it.

I'm guessing you don't play MMOs.


No, no I do not (well, a little LOTRO, but only because it's FTP and I'm a LOTRO nerd)... mostly a single player gamer (Skyrim, Dark Souls, Witcher 2, Borderlands, Dragons Dogma, etc are my more recently played games)
 
2013-07-09 09:01:23 PM  

rugman11: xkillyourfacex: I have a question. Why is "The Details" in every single streaming movie category right now? And why do you only add 10 or so legitimate hollywood films to your streaming service once every 3 months?

/Considering huluplus if this keeps up

Because movies, especially "legitimate hollywood films" are expensive.  There's a market for exclusive second-run movies, whether it's the premium networks (HBO, Showtime, etc.) or the cable networks (FX, ABC Family, etc.)  Netflix doesn't have much competition for reruns of 30 Rock or Parks and Recreation, but cable networks are willing to pay a lot of money for Hollywood movie rights, which makes it difficult for Netflix to get a good movie selection while keeping its price at $8/month.

And Hulu Plus's movie selection is significantly worse than Netflix, so good luck with that.


I'd pay $35-40/month if Netflix put their entire DVD collection on streaming.
 
2013-07-10 07:30:56 PM  
SurfaceTension: I'd pay $35-40/month if Netflix put their entire DVD collection on streaming.

The problem isn't with Netflix (they would happily do that), the problem is, old media owns the licenses and they don't want to do that because fark you that's why pay us MORE and MORE for all of our content, no matter how old it is.

// this is why netflix is currently experimenting with producing their own shows. They can get around the stupidity of old media.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/01/technology/innovation/netflix-house- of -cards/index.html
 
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