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(Daily Mail)   Not News: security humiliates civilian and makes them remove articles of clothes and metallic items. Fark: A disabled military vet in Dress Uniform and medals. Facepalm: He was there to receive another award   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 23
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2013-07-09 08:34:22 AM  
5 votes:
America wanted zero tolerance security because America is scared, and this is one of the inevitable consequences. We've tolerated being presented with the option of having the TSA take nudie pictures of our kids, or having some TSA goon feel them up, for f*cks sake.

Don't b*tch and moan about it just because the guy is a vet.
2013-07-09 11:06:49 AM  
4 votes:

Bslim: We mock his sacrifice because it was for NOTHING.


His sacrifice was service in a volunteer military that is entirely subordinate to our democratically elected government.

The tragedy was the misuse of that military, but responsibility for that misuse lies with our politicians.  This is a cornerstone of what makes our country great.  If you want to mock anything, mock the people who sent him to Iraq, not the fact that he was willing to put his life on the line in service to his country.
2013-07-09 09:28:31 AM  
4 votes:

thatboyoverthere: Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.


It's not a private venue, it's the state capitol building, which is public property.  Furthermore, he was specifically invited as a Marine veteran and therefore expected to appear in uniform.  It's sure easy for you to sit there at your keyboard and mock this Marine's sacrifice.

Also, am I seriously the only one who read the farking article?  He wasn't wearing his blues through the airport.  Airport TSA tried to make him lift his injured arm (he says he "wasn't bothered" by that incident).  It was the capitol building security that told him to remove his uniform.  I think it would have been fantastic if he had just said "fark it" and gone home without telling his hosts.  Let the asshole security officer explain why the event was ruined.
2013-07-09 09:25:17 AM  
4 votes:
I really....really loathe the TSA these days. I don't like the machines so I always opt out. Mostly because it is my passive aggressive way to protest their ridiculousness.

This last time I opted out however they asked me if I had any medical device or something that would prevent me from going through. I said no and they told me then I had to go through the machine because the policies had changed. News to me so I asked to see the policy change in writing. Lots of stammering and talking to a supervisor finally allowed me my pat down. During the pat down the lectured me on wasting their time and how people like me are ruining security check-in procedures. Then they admitted to LYING to people because it is important to go through the machines. Really? Why is it so "important". The conspiracist in me thinks nefarious thoughts while the realist in me knows they were just lazy a-holes. Lying to people though is totally unacceptable.

You can for any reason opt out of those machines and you DON'T have to give them even one gawd damn clue as to why. Luckily I always arrive at the airport with time to spare so even if they make me wait an hour (which the do sometimes just to be dicks) I'm never in danger of missing a flight.
2013-07-09 09:35:54 AM  
3 votes:
Simple solution: Don't join the military. Just don't do it. Nothing good will ever come of it.
2013-07-09 09:48:34 AM  
2 votes:
Opt-out early, opt-out often.  If 10% of travelers were not scared lemmings who went along with everything for "safety," then it would put a serious wrench in the apparatus of the security state.  Make them pat you down.  Make those body scanners collect dust.
2013-07-09 09:25:00 AM  
2 votes:

GORDON: Molavian: God, you people are insane.

Yes, we are.

The left has even started calling people who question the government "treasonous" (during W's term, "dissent was the highest form of patriotism."  No more).  It's a run up to Kristallnacht all over again.


My crazy meter has gone off the charts. What "left" are you thinking of, that says questioning the government is treasonous? The left I know won't shut up about the NSA and fracking and all sorts of other things.
2013-07-09 09:19:31 AM  
2 votes:
So let me get this straight. He goes into an airport wearing a metal all over himself and he's surprised the TSA searched him thoroughly

Come on, you know he didn't have to wear his Iron-man-esque dress-blues through the farking airport. He wasn't getting his new award in the airport.

Crying "muh vet status" when he gets scrutinized is a bit much.
2013-07-09 09:14:42 AM  
2 votes:

thatboyoverthere: into a private venue


The state capitol?
2013-07-09 09:10:06 AM  
2 votes:
God, you people are insane.
2013-07-09 12:24:16 PM  
1 votes:

FormlessOne: Aarontology: America wanted zero tolerance security because America is scared, and this is one of the inevitable consequences. We've tolerated being presented with the option of having the TSA take nudie pictures of our kids, or having some TSA goon feel them up, for f*cks sake.

Don't b*tch and moan about it just because the guy is a vet.

Came here for this, leaving happy.

As for those of you offended that a vet would be treated just like anyone else - a possible threat - remember that some of the nastier domestic terrorists, such as Lee Harvey Oswald and Timothy McVeigh, were also vets. Our ridiculous security theater recognizes that vets are Americans, too, and all Americans are considered possible threats. We're supposed to be afraid of  everybody, and so any action is justified in our need for "zero tolerance". Otherwise, why would we smile & nod when the TSA gropes us, or feel ambivalence when our government ignores the Constitution and spies on us, or shrug when obvious threats, like protestors, are stomped by over-zealous cops in surplus military gear?

Yes, he's been inconvenienced, harassed, and treated like dirt - but, that's to be expected. He's an American, in America. It's the new reality of fear, and he's not special.


Plus, the moment policy changes to say "People in military uniforms will be exempt from searches" is the moment someone who wants to blow up a plane goes out and buys a facsimile in order to bypass security. It's like having a giant sign in your front lawn that says "This house is protected by a security system, except for the second window on the north side"

You'd also probably end up with a bunch of people donning a uniform just to bypass security because they just don't want to deal with it.
2013-07-09 10:49:56 AM  
1 votes:
Lee Harvey Oswald - USMC
Timothy McVeigh - US Army, Gulf War Vet, Bronze Star
Terry Nichols - US Army
Michael Fortier - US Army
Nidal Malik Hasan - US Army
Clayton J. Lonetree - USMC
Morris Cohen - US Army
John Anthony Walker, Jr. - USN
David Sheldon Boone - US Army
Ronald William Pelton - USAF
James W. Hall, III - US Army
  
All honorably discharged, (except Nichols, who was a hardship discharge). Military Service does not presume your innocence. All Americans are subject to scrutiny in Homeland, and rolling up in your uniform with your medals and awards and ribbons and What Not do not exempt you from being search, weighed, measured, annotated, documented, calibrated, screened, homogenized, and X-rayed by the TSA, NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA, DHS, DEA, NRO, AFISRA, INSCOM, MCIA, ONI, OICI, TFI, INR, NASA, and the USDA.

Get your shiat together, Homelanders, and quit screwing around. There's a war on. A war on Terror. And Poverty and Drugs. Three wars. We're fighting a three-front war, with an Escalated Police Action on the Mexican Border. And don't forget that Korean thing is still just a "Cease Fire", there's no treaty or armistice, and it could light up at any moment.

Get your shiat together.

GYST.
2013-07-09 10:22:45 AM  
1 votes:
I hope the outrage in the article is from the paper not from the captain. If he is the one making a stink about this he needs to get some perspective. We, and I mean other military, sure as hell inconvenienced some innocent people because we were just doing our job.
2013-07-09 09:31:56 AM  
1 votes:
Terrorists win again. What were you fighting for?
2013-07-09 09:30:25 AM  
1 votes:

Moosecakes: GORDON: Molavian: God, you people are insane.

Yes, we are.

The left has even started calling people who question the government "treasonous" (during W's term, "dissent was the highest form of patriotism."  No more).  It's a run up to Kristallnacht all over again.

My crazy meter has gone off the charts. What "left" are you thinking of, that says questioning the government is treasonous? The left I know won't shut up about the NSA and fracking and all sorts of other things.


He picks the person on the left who said the worst thing and then claims that they speak for all those on the left.
2013-07-09 09:24:13 AM  
1 votes:

KidneyStone: mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)

What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.


From what I understand, "former Marine" is an acceptable term, when used without disrespect.

"Ex-Marine" will get your ass kicked.
2013-07-09 09:22:36 AM  
1 votes:
Isn't this what america wanted after 9/11?
2013-07-09 09:19:27 AM  
1 votes:
The majority of domestic terrorists are former military.
2013-07-09 09:18:40 AM  
1 votes:

mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)


What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.
2013-07-09 09:17:35 AM  
1 votes:
A: can we really trust the Daily Mail to give us an accurate representation of what happened?

B: why the fark would you wear clothing covered in metal to the airport? I don't care who you are or what you're doing, that's stupid. Next time just wear something else and change your damn clothing, everybody knows they have metal detectors at airports.
2013-07-09 09:16:06 AM  
1 votes:
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)
2013-07-09 09:11:18 AM  
1 votes:
Good thing I wasn't there or I would have gone to jail.
2013-07-09 09:09:08 AM  
1 votes:
Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.
 
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