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(Daily Mail)   Not News: security humiliates civilian and makes them remove articles of clothes and metallic items. Fark: A disabled military vet in Dress Uniform and medals. Facepalm: He was there to receive another award   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 76
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2013-07-09 08:34:22 AM
America wanted zero tolerance security because America is scared, and this is one of the inevitable consequences. We've tolerated being presented with the option of having the TSA take nudie pictures of our kids, or having some TSA goon feel them up, for f*cks sake.

Don't b*tch and moan about it just because the guy is a vet.
 
2013-07-09 09:09:08 AM
Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.
 
2013-07-09 09:10:06 AM
God, you people are insane.
 
2013-07-09 09:10:52 AM
Nobody has ever seen Day of The Jackal?
 
2013-07-09 09:11:18 AM
Good thing I wasn't there or I would have gone to jail.
 
2013-07-09 09:14:42 AM

thatboyoverthere: into a private venue


The state capitol?
 
2013-07-09 09:15:12 AM

Aarontology

America wanted zero tolerance security because America is scared, and this is one of the inevitable consequences. We've tolerated being presented with the option of having the TSA take nudie pictures of our kids, or having some TSA goon feel them up, for f*cks sake.

Don't b*tch and moan about it just because the guy is a vet.

^ This

Gimli_Gloin

Good thing I wasn't there or I would have gone to jail.

Sure you would, Skippy. I guess we're all lucky they don't have many airports in mommie's basement.
mamemimo.com
 
2013-07-09 09:15:38 AM
In general I think a majority of TSA agents are okay. It's the few idiots that make all of them look bad. TSA at Logan airport seem to be really professional, but the agents at JFK in New York suck. I never want to fly from that airport again.
 
2013-07-09 09:16:06 AM
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)
 
2013-07-09 09:17:35 AM
A: can we really trust the Daily Mail to give us an accurate representation of what happened?

B: why the fark would you wear clothing covered in metal to the airport? I don't care who you are or what you're doing, that's stupid. Next time just wear something else and change your damn clothing, everybody knows they have metal detectors at airports.
 
2013-07-09 09:18:05 AM
Pathetic......
 
2013-07-09 09:18:40 AM

mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)


What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.
 
2013-07-09 09:18:43 AM

Molavian: God, you people are insane.


Yes, we are.

The left has even started calling people who question the government "treasonous" (during W's term, "dissent was the highest form of patriotism."  No more).  It's a run up to Kristallnacht all over again.
 
2013-07-09 09:19:27 AM
The majority of domestic terrorists are former military.
 
2013-07-09 09:19:31 AM
So let me get this straight. He goes into an airport wearing a metal all over himself and he's surprised the TSA searched him thoroughly

Come on, you know he didn't have to wear his Iron-man-esque dress-blues through the farking airport. He wasn't getting his new award in the airport.

Crying "muh vet status" when he gets scrutinized is a bit much.
 
2013-07-09 09:20:00 AM
I never thought I would take the side of TSA (and I suppose I'm mostly siding against the vet, instead of with the TSA), but:

"They also offer an expedited service, but you must call the agencies Military Severely Injured Joint Service Operations Center prior to traveling.

There is also a 'curb-to-gate' service for injured personnel and well as a pre-check program for military personnel at four airports."


It sounds like he didn't opt for the easy-breezy way to get through security with the minimum rigamarole, and instead just strolled through in his full dress blues.

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

/also, they didn't specify if this was one of the four airports with the curb-to-gate program in place.
 
2013-07-09 09:20:19 AM
How's that fought for freedom workin' out for ya, soldier?
 
2013-07-09 09:21:00 AM

KidneyStone: mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)

What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.


Oops. I was thinking ex-Marine.

/although saying former gets a lot of corrections as well
 
2013-07-09 09:22:15 AM
Wow, we sure love the TSA here on Fark!

This guy was asking for it!
 
2013-07-09 09:22:36 AM
Isn't this what america wanted after 9/11?
 
2013-07-09 09:24:13 AM

KidneyStone: mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)

What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.


From what I understand, "former Marine" is an acceptable term, when used without disrespect.

"Ex-Marine" will get your ass kicked.
 
2013-07-09 09:25:00 AM

GORDON: Molavian: God, you people are insane.

Yes, we are.

The left has even started calling people who question the government "treasonous" (during W's term, "dissent was the highest form of patriotism."  No more).  It's a run up to Kristallnacht all over again.


My crazy meter has gone off the charts. What "left" are you thinking of, that says questioning the government is treasonous? The left I know won't shut up about the NSA and fracking and all sorts of other things.
 
2013-07-09 09:25:17 AM
I really....really loathe the TSA these days. I don't like the machines so I always opt out. Mostly because it is my passive aggressive way to protest their ridiculousness.

This last time I opted out however they asked me if I had any medical device or something that would prevent me from going through. I said no and they told me then I had to go through the machine because the policies had changed. News to me so I asked to see the policy change in writing. Lots of stammering and talking to a supervisor finally allowed me my pat down. During the pat down the lectured me on wasting their time and how people like me are ruining security check-in procedures. Then they admitted to LYING to people because it is important to go through the machines. Really? Why is it so "important". The conspiracist in me thinks nefarious thoughts while the realist in me knows they were just lazy a-holes. Lying to people though is totally unacceptable.

You can for any reason opt out of those machines and you DON'T have to give them even one gawd damn clue as to why. Luckily I always arrive at the airport with time to spare so even if they make me wait an hour (which the do sometimes just to be dicks) I'm never in danger of missing a flight.
 
2013-07-09 09:27:12 AM

croesius: KidneyStone: mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)

What's a former Marine? I know an assload of Marines and every single one of them will correct anyone saying former Marine.

From what I understand, "former Marine" is an acceptable term, when used without disrespect.

"Ex-Marine" will get your ass kicked.


Nah, not by any Marines I know. They'll just call you an asshole
 
2013-07-09 09:28:31 AM

thatboyoverthere: Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.


It's not a private venue, it's the state capitol building, which is public property.  Furthermore, he was specifically invited as a Marine veteran and therefore expected to appear in uniform.  It's sure easy for you to sit there at your keyboard and mock this Marine's sacrifice.

Also, am I seriously the only one who read the farking article?  He wasn't wearing his blues through the airport.  Airport TSA tried to make him lift his injured arm (he says he "wasn't bothered" by that incident).  It was the capitol building security that told him to remove his uniform.  I think it would have been fantastic if he had just said "fark it" and gone home without telling his hosts.  Let the asshole security officer explain why the event was ruined.
 
2013-07-09 09:30:25 AM

Moosecakes: GORDON: Molavian: God, you people are insane.

Yes, we are.

The left has even started calling people who question the government "treasonous" (during W's term, "dissent was the highest form of patriotism."  No more).  It's a run up to Kristallnacht all over again.

My crazy meter has gone off the charts. What "left" are you thinking of, that says questioning the government is treasonous? The left I know won't shut up about the NSA and fracking and all sorts of other things.


He picks the person on the left who said the worst thing and then claims that they speak for all those on the left.
 
2013-07-09 09:31:56 AM
Terrorists win again. What were you fighting for?
 
2013-07-09 09:34:43 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: thatboyoverthere: Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.

It's not a private venue, it's the state capitol building, which is public property.  Furthermore, he was specifically invited as a Marine veteran and therefore expected to appear in uniform.  It's sure easy for you to sit there at your keyboard and mock this Marine's sacrifice.

Also, am I seriously the only one who read the farking article?  He wasn't wearing his blues through the airport.  Airport TSA tried to make him lift his injured arm (he says he "wasn't bothered" by that incident).  It was the capitol building security that told him to remove his uniform.  I think it would have been fantastic if he had just said "fark it" and gone home without telling his hosts.  Let the asshole security officer explain why the event was ruined.


We mock his sacrifice because it was for NOTHING.
 
2013-07-09 09:35:54 AM
Simple solution: Don't join the military. Just don't do it. Nothing good will ever come of it.
 
2013-07-09 09:41:20 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: thatboyoverthere: Daily Mail. Which means that a member of the 'core' was told that he couldn't bring his bottlecap medals and his swords into a private venue.

It's not a private venue, it's the state capitol building, which is public property.  Furthermore, he was specifically invited as a Marine veteran and therefore expected to appear in uniform.  It's sure easy for you to sit there at your keyboard and mock this Marine's sacrifice.

Also, am I seriously the only one who read the farking article?  He wasn't wearing his blues through the airport.  Airport TSA tried to make him lift his injured arm (he says he "wasn't bothered" by that incident).  It was the capitol building security that told him to remove his uniform.  I think it would have been fantastic if he had just said "fark it" and gone home without telling his hosts.  Let the asshole security officer explain why the event was ruined.


I was commenting on the fact that the Daily Mail has a notorious reputation for embellishing and.or completely making up shiat for a story.  Check out their "Story" on a woman dentist who removed all of her ex-boyfriend's teeth. They later admitted they made it up.
 
2013-07-09 09:44:22 AM
Sounds like a TSA agent has watched one too many episodes of "Homeland".
 
2013-07-09 09:48:34 AM
Opt-out early, opt-out often.  If 10% of travelers were not scared lemmings who went along with everything for "safety," then it would put a serious wrench in the apparatus of the security state.  Make them pat you down.  Make those body scanners collect dust.
 
2013-07-09 09:48:44 AM
well, if these people dressed in decorated marine dress uniforms would just stop blowing up women and children we wouldnt have to do this right?
 
2013-07-09 09:51:10 AM

Joe Blowme: well, if these people dressed in decorated marine dress uniforms would just stop blowing up women and children we wouldnt have to do this right?



Oh that's a good one. 8/10
 
2013-07-09 09:53:05 AM
There are many pieces of shiat to eat for breakfast ITT, if you're into that sort of thing.

"bottlecap medals"

"sacrifice for nothing"

Keyboard warriors, you sure showed him!
 
2013-07-09 10:02:27 AM

thatboyoverthere: Joe Blowme: well, if these people dressed in decorated marine dress uniforms would just stop blowing up women and children we wouldnt have to do this right?


Oh that's a good one. 8/10


Thats right, actually looking into thoses DOING the blowing up of planes and busses would be racist so we must search everyone.... farking retarded policy
 
2013-07-09 10:21:34 AM
thatboyoverthere:
I was commenting on the fact that the Daily Mail has a notorious reputation for embellishing and.or completely making up shiat for a story.

No, you weren't.  You were talking smack about Marines from the safety of your keyboard.
 
2013-07-09 10:22:45 AM
I hope the outrage in the article is from the paper not from the captain. If he is the one making a stink about this he needs to get some perspective. We, and I mean other military, sure as hell inconvenienced some innocent people because we were just doing our job.
 
2013-07-09 10:23:58 AM

MrJesus: "sacrifice for nothing"


Yeah, you're right. He didn't sacrifice for nothing. He sacrificed so he could be strip-searched for no good reason! The nerve of these keyboard warriors!
 
2013-07-09 10:24:33 AM
What a Marine terrorist bedecked with medals may looks like:

www.vaguespace.net
 
2013-07-09 10:34:47 AM

thurstonxhowell: MrJesus: "sacrifice for nothing"

Yeah, you're right. He didn't sacrifice for nothing. He sacrificed so he could be strip-searched for no good reason! The nerve of these keyboard warriors!


Shut your troll hole, newb.
 
2013-07-09 10:43:35 AM
Boy, that sounds familiar. Can't quite place my finger on that one... I bet if we could remember history this would surely parallel something.

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2013-07-09 10:49:56 AM
Lee Harvey Oswald - USMC
Timothy McVeigh - US Army, Gulf War Vet, Bronze Star
Terry Nichols - US Army
Michael Fortier - US Army
Nidal Malik Hasan - US Army
Clayton J. Lonetree - USMC
Morris Cohen - US Army
John Anthony Walker, Jr. - USN
David Sheldon Boone - US Army
Ronald William Pelton - USAF
James W. Hall, III - US Army
  
All honorably discharged, (except Nichols, who was a hardship discharge). Military Service does not presume your innocence. All Americans are subject to scrutiny in Homeland, and rolling up in your uniform with your medals and awards and ribbons and What Not do not exempt you from being search, weighed, measured, annotated, documented, calibrated, screened, homogenized, and X-rayed by the TSA, NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA, DHS, DEA, NRO, AFISRA, INSCOM, MCIA, ONI, OICI, TFI, INR, NASA, and the USDA.

Get your shiat together, Homelanders, and quit screwing around. There's a war on. A war on Terror. And Poverty and Drugs. Three wars. We're fighting a three-front war, with an Escalated Police Action on the Mexican Border. And don't forget that Korean thing is still just a "Cease Fire", there's no treaty or armistice, and it could light up at any moment.

Get your shiat together.

GYST.
 
2013-07-09 11:01:49 AM
My sibling recently got a job on a military base. On his first day going up to post, he was stopped by a guard who told him that his beard made him look just like Snowden, and that he should remove it.

I say the guard is jealous that he can't grow beards whenever he feels like it.

/as if Snowden would be driving around in the open
//if he were stupid enough to come back, that is
 
2013-07-09 11:06:04 AM

mrlewish: As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing actually traveling in those? (airport) Highly uncomfortable and you know they will buzz the metal detectors. Then again I wouldn't trust the airlines not to lose his uniform bag.  Though I suspect they will let him check at the door.
As a former Marine I can ask. WTF are you doing making him take his uniform off? (capital building)


What's this "former Marine" of which you speak?
 
2013-07-09 11:06:49 AM

Bslim: We mock his sacrifice because it was for NOTHING.


His sacrifice was service in a volunteer military that is entirely subordinate to our democratically elected government.

The tragedy was the misuse of that military, but responsibility for that misuse lies with our politicians.  This is a cornerstone of what makes our country great.  If you want to mock anything, mock the people who sent him to Iraq, not the fact that he was willing to put his life on the line in service to his country.
 
2013-07-09 11:08:52 AM
Maybe he was in uniform because he was traveling, officially for his unit, and was required to be in uniform because it was military travel.
 
2013-07-09 11:10:42 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Also, am I seriously the only one who read the farking article?  He wasn't wearing his blues through the airport.  Airport TSA tried to make him lift his injured arm (he says he "wasn't bothered" by that incident).  It was the capitol building security that told him to remove his uniform.  I think it would have been fantastic if he had just said "fark it" and gone home without telling his hosts.  Let the asshole security officer explain why the event was ruined.


Actually, the article includes a photo of Cpl. Kemnitz in his dress uniform being frisked by a TSO.

I haven't been to the Capitol in a while, but I'm pretty sure that security is still provided by CHP Officers, not the TSA.
 
2013-07-09 11:20:59 AM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Get your shiat together, Homelanders, and quit screwing around. There's a war on. A war on Terror. And Poverty and Drugs. Three wars. We're fighting a three-front war, with an Escalated Police Action on the Mexican Border.


Four if you count the unfolding "War on Guns."
 
2013-07-09 11:26:45 AM

DarkVader: The majority of domestic terrorists are former military.


No, they're Democrats.
 
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