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2013-07-09 01:03:34 AM  
Enh. If I'm playing a slot machine, I already know I'm going to lose. If I win somehow, great. If not, oh well.
 
2013-07-09 01:17:05 AM  
fta Canadian researchers report that the music and sound effects of slot machines help convey the illusion that you are winning.

The clicketyclack, clicketyclack, clicketyclack, and the ding, ding, ding, and the caching, caching, caching is what kept me glued to the pachinko machine for hours at a time when I was a kid. That may also be the reason the pachinko machine mysteriously disappeared one day.
 
2013-07-09 01:26:18 AM  
F*ck slot machines. The most boring form of gambling.
 
2013-07-09 01:35:57 AM  
Operant conditioning.  'Nuff said.
 
2013-07-09 03:08:02 AM  

SilentStrider: Enh. If I'm playing a slot machine, I already know I'm going to lose. If I win somehow, great. If not, oh well.


This.
 
2013-07-09 03:38:31 AM  
How to increase your odds? Don't play. That's it.
 
2013-07-09 04:47:36 AM  
Does this casino scenario sound familiar? You're pumping money into a slot machine, very much enjoying the sense that you're winning more often than you're losing. Your excitement mounts-right up until that startling, disheartening moment when your money runs out.

Nope. Never happened once in my life. I grew up with video games, starting with the Atari 2600. Beeps, boops, bells, and whistles do not distract me from the score.
 
2013-07-09 04:58:50 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: How to increase your odds? Don't play. That's it.


Actually, chief, that doesn't increase your odds.

You wanna win at something, you have to play. Not playing is forfeiture and thus ad hoc defeat.

If you want to win at gambling, you have to the house. That's all.
 
2013-07-09 05:26:00 AM  

doglover: If you want to win at gambling, you have to the house. That's all.


Or play poker.  I mean, against people who are worse at poker than you are.
 
2013-07-09 05:27:48 AM  

Sid_6.7: F*ck slot machines. The most boring form of gambling.


I deal cards at a casino.  When my table goes dead I generally end up standing there and staring at people playing the slots...I cannot for the life of me understand why people play penny slot machines.  Earlier tonight I watched a woman hit the smallest "jackpot" on a penny machine three times within 10 minutes.  That left her up by a whopping $30.
 
2013-07-09 06:27:52 AM  

doglover: Adolf Oliver Nipples: 

If you want to win at gambling, you have to the house. That's all.


Romanes eunt domes: People called Romans go the house?
 
2013-07-09 06:29:52 AM  
I never understood the interest in gambling. Grew up in a city that legalized riverboat gambling when I was 17 and watched people gambling themselves broke.
Always seemed like I could find better ways to squander my excess cash...
 
2013-07-09 06:37:28 AM  
I don't understand how you wouldn't know how much you've won. If you start with $50 and end with $25 you didn't win. Not a hard concept.
 
2013-07-09 06:41:20 AM  
I've never been to a casino but I imagine people who play slots are a lot like me when I used to go to arcades, when they existed.  Except when I brought $20 to an arcade I knew I was going to leave with nothing.  If you play slots there's at least a slim chance you could leave with something higher than 0, for what I assume is a similar level of entertainment.
 
2013-07-09 06:42:12 AM  
Why You Keep Losing at Slot Machines

Because you keep playing slot machines? Cripes the damn things are mathematically programmed to make you lose, following specific state laws.
 
2013-07-09 06:42:59 AM  
What I've found is that slot machines will typically pay out a small winning, like $60, a few spins in. This is to get you hooked. Then with the extra money, you convince yourself that you might as well play a bit longer and see what happens, looking for lightning to strike twice. Over the course of the next half hour or so the payouts are paltry, if at all. And eventually you end up back at what you started with or some tiny amount that isn't worth the time to cash out. They also use slips rather than coins in a lot of casinos now so you don't really have a physical feel of how much you're holding.

So my strategy to win at slots is to play only for a short time. Maybe 10 spins. If I have won by that time, I cash out. If I haven't, I'm only down a couple bucks. It works every time and in every casino.
 
2013-07-09 06:44:03 AM  

Sid_6.7: F*ck slot machines. The most boring form of gambling.


I don't consider slot machines gambling. Gambling implies you have a chance of winning. Stay at a slot machine long enough and you are guaranteed to lose money. It is a fundamentally different thing from say, poker, where although you will probably still lose your ass in the long run, its not a certainty.
/I don't do either
 
2013-07-09 06:45:53 AM  
Studies show that people easily distracted by bright lights and loud noises are also extremely gullible. It's like casinos prey on the lowest form of humanity. Shocking.
When I lived in Tampa, I went with some friends to the Hard Rock Casino. Between the noise and cigarette smoke, I lasted about 5 minutes.
 
2013-07-09 06:46:00 AM  
How to increase your odds of winning?

Yeah, no.  Not listening to the music does not change your odds.  Not playing reduces your odds of coming out ahead to 0.  If you want to increase your odds, play machines with better odds.  The odds are generally listed, especially in Vegas but in other places as well.  For video poker machines you can look the odds up online based on the pay tables.

There are Deuces Wild video poker machines that (if played properly) pay out 102.7%  Of course, this requires you to play perfectly and play a LOT.  Putting in $1000 nets you $27 over time.  On a quarter machine playing 5 quarters per play, that requires 800 hands (about 2 hours of play) and a bankroll of around $2000-3000 to account for fluctuations over time---essentially the amount of time between Royal Flushes.  So if you feel like pursuing this as a career, you are probably looking at making close to minimum wage and staring at a screen all day pushing buttons.

Of course if you join the slot club you can get comps, so maybe free meals and drinks, A/C. an occasional room. But you also probably have your jackpots reported to the IRS.  Livin' the high life!
 
2013-07-09 06:47:05 AM  
It's not just the machines. The lack of clocks in the casino keeps you from figuring out how much time you've wasted. The casinos I've been to also pump in this droning white noise in the background that lulls you into a trance state if you listen to it long enough.
 
2013-07-09 06:47:36 AM  
Actually, headphones won't increase your odds, nothing will. You have no control over your odds when playing a slot machine. No matter what your odds will be predetermined and negative.

At best it will make you more likely to realize that you have shiatty odds and are losing money.
 
2013-07-09 06:47:50 AM  
once again another misleading headline from a subby who has zero reading comprehension of the article.

cancelling out the noise has zero effect on the odds.

cancelling out the noise has an effect on your perception of wins and losses.

it's even the damn byline of the article, "Canadian researchers report that the music and sound effects of slot machines help convey the illusion that you are winning".
 
2013-07-09 06:48:20 AM  

IAAl: So if you feel like pursuing this as a career, you are probably looking at making close to minimum wage and staring at a screen all day pushing buttons.


Suckers! Get a real job.
 
2013-07-09 06:55:19 AM  
I have noticed that with video slots the big thing is getting the free spins or bonus games rather than a jack pot. People play and play and play until they get the bonus game.
 
2013-07-09 07:00:48 AM  
I played slots for the first time in vegas about 15 years ago.  Played a slot for a while, finally won about $150.  Moved to another machine, same thing.. did it 3 times, ended up leaving $450 net profit.  10 years ago tried again, didn't win anything.  5 years ago tried $20, lost it all.  I don't play slots anymore.

I actually like the new computerized roulette tables, makes it much less intimidating when a real person isn't standing there.  When I played that I came out ahead $200.  I don't gamble much, if I can't win something on $20, I walk away.

When casinos advertise on billboards (our slots pay out 97%), that should be a clue.  You are guaranteed to lose 3 percent of the time, perhaps more
 
2013-07-09 07:01:35 AM  

calbert: once again another misleading headline from a subby who has zero reading comprehension of the article.

cancelling out the noise has zero effect on the odds.

cancelling out the noise has an effect on your perception of wins and losses.

it's even the damn byline of the article, "Canadian researchers report that the music and sound effects of slot machines help convey the illusion that you are winning".


I think you just aren't as clever as subby, who knows that your choice of accessories influences computers' programming. That's why I wear an eyepatch whenever I go to the ATM--it'll give you an extra 5 bucks for every 20 withdrawn!

/no, really, try it
//and post pictures of your success
 
2013-07-09 07:04:09 AM  
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2013-07-09 07:04:24 AM  

Harv72b: Sid_6.7: F*ck slot machines. The most boring form of gambling.

I deal cards at a casino.  When my table goes dead I generally end up standing there and staring at people playing the slots...I cannot for the life of me understand why people play penny slot machines.  Earlier tonight I watched a woman hit the smallest "jackpot" on a penny machine three times within 10 minutes.  That left her up by a whopping $30.


Two weeks ago, I took a girls trip to the local casino, played penny slots starting with 20 dollars and left with $150. My sister spent 50-75 and left with over $500. So whatever.
 
2013-07-09 07:04:28 AM  
plus I'm getting a kick out of Canadian researchers wasting time and money studying something that is an actual design feature with the intended purpose of doing exactly what the researchers discovered it does.

up next, Canadian researchers discover that applying the brakes on a car help to slow it down.
 
2013-07-09 07:05:28 AM  

toyotaboy: I actually like the new computerized roulette tables


You actually trust a freakin' computer?

What's wrong with you? Do you want the house to just take your money. At least with a real person, it's unlikely they're gonna be able to rig a roulette wheel. There's inspections and, if you do the odds, no reason. Roulette pays out every single spin for the house.
 
2013-07-09 07:06:01 AM  
How about a nice game of chess?
 
2013-07-09 07:06:09 AM  

calbert: once again another misleading headline from a subby who has zero reading comprehension of the article.

cancelling out the noise has zero effect on the odds.

cancelling out the noise has an effect on your perception of wins and losses.

it's even the damn byline of the article, "Canadian researchers report that the music and sound effects of slot machines help convey the illusion that you are winning".


And I think the headline was lost on you, it has another meaning.  It's called a joke.  It's referring to the odds you won't play again at a losing game.
 
2013-07-09 07:06:52 AM  

Sid_6.7: F*ck slot machines. The most boring form of gambling.


They are kind of boring but if I'm hemorrhaging money at the tables, I'll wander off and play them for little while.
Also, don't play the farking 14 line machines. Play the single line. They only plays the win music if you actually win.
 
2013-07-09 07:13:26 AM  

Dracolich: And I think the headline was lost on you, it has another meaning. It's called a joke. It's referring to the odds you won't play again at a losing game.


You must be the subby. This "explanation" is as poor a quality as the headline is.

Why is it that people who put double spaces after their periods are almost universally ignorant?
 
2013-07-09 07:15:19 AM  

IAAl: How to increase your odds of winning?

Yeah, no.  Not listening to the music does not change your odds.  Not playing reduces your odds of coming out ahead to 0.  If you want to increase your odds, play machines with better odds.  The odds are generally listed, especially in Vegas but in other places as well.  For video poker machines you can look the odds up online based on the pay tables.

There are Deuces Wild video poker machines that (if played properly) pay out 102.7%  Of course, this requires you to play perfectly and play a LOT.  Putting in $1000 nets you $27 over time.  On a quarter machine playing 5 quarters per play, that requires 800 hands (about 2 hours of play) and a bankroll of around $2000-3000 to account for fluctuations over time---essentially the amount of time between Royal Flushes.  So if you feel like pursuing this as a career, you are probably looking at making close to minimum wage and staring at a screen all day pushing buttons.

Of course if you join the slot club you can get comps, so maybe free meals and drinks, A/C. an occasional room. But you also probably have your jackpots reported to the IRS.  Livin' the high life!


I stick to the blackjack on those machines. Dump in a $20, sit at the bar and drink free for a couple of hours, then pull the $18 to $22 out. No, that's not gambling, that's just playing for free booze, but still works for me.
 
2013-07-09 07:17:36 AM  

calbert: once again another misleading headline from a subby who has zero reading comprehension of the article.

cancelling out the noise has zero effect on the odds.

cancelling out the noise has an effect on your perception of wins and losses.

it's even the damn byline of the article, "Canadian researchers report that the music and sound effects of slot machines help convey the illusion that you are winning".


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2013-07-09 07:19:28 AM  

calbert: plus I'm getting a kick out of Canadian researchers wasting time and money studying something that is an actual design feature with the intended purpose of doing exactly what the researchers discovered it does.

up next, Canadian researchers discover that applying the brakes on a car help to slow it down.


Yeah I was under the impression that this was all by design, and were known properties, the sounds in a casino are intended to mildly disorient you and they build them like labyrinths to help keep you inside longer, etc.

I seem to remember reading or seeing on a documentary that in some cases the casinos actually pump in some level of artificial noise as well but I may well be imagining that part.
 
2013-07-09 07:33:16 AM  
Losing is winning and war is peace.
 
2013-07-09 07:49:22 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: I don't understand how you wouldn't know how much you've won. If you start with $50 and end with $25 you didn't win. Not a hard concept.


I don't understand how you wouldn't know what the words in the article mean. They're written in standard English. Not a hard concept.
 
2013-07-09 07:54:28 AM  

toyotaboy: When casinos advertise on billboards (our slots pay out 97%), that should be a clue. You are guaranteed to lose 3 percent of the time, perhaps more


That's not what that means.
 
2013-07-09 08:04:31 AM  
You can actually discern the sounds of the slot machine in front of you?

In every casino I've been to, the entire room is constantly filled with a sustained Eno chord resulting from hundreds of machines making their noises simultaneously.
 
2013-07-09 08:05:29 AM  
The best way to avoid losing money at the casino is to check out what the casinos take in before you go.

Pennsylvania breaks it all down by type of game.  The casinos ***never*** lose.

http://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/?p=216
 
2013-07-09 08:10:02 AM  

ryarger: DoBeDoBeDo: I don't understand how you wouldn't know how much you've won. If you start with $50 and end with $25 you didn't win. Not a hard concept.

I don't understand how you wouldn't know what the words in the article mean. They're written in standard English. Not a hard concept.


The point being made is consistent with TFA. Keep track of wins and losses based on the amount of money you put in and how much you have left instead of on sound cues from the machines.
 
2013-07-09 08:13:01 AM  
That's right.   The only time you can reliably do well is with things like poker.    The house takes a rake but all it takes are people worse than you to lose their money to you rather than to the casino.

I pretty much doubled up one day playing at a table with a guy who had to be the worst player I've seen in a real casino.    He'd lose, go buy more chips, and lose more.    I'm not sure I could tolerate doing that.   He even had room service deliver dinner at the table (which he paid for, poker doesn't comp well).     But I guess that's what a gambling addiction will do for you.   At least it made me and my other table mates happy.
 
2013-07-09 08:13:32 AM  
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Casinos like to take your money and are very good at it.
/GIS Rick Romero Facebook is interesting
 
2013-07-09 08:15:53 AM  
Pick the crappiest-looking machine in the most remote part of the casino. Casinos will put a few machines at a higher payout so that they can advertise it. And they don't pick their most used machines for that.
 
2013-07-09 08:25:25 AM  

SilentStrider: Enh. If I'm playing a slot machine, I already know I'm going to lose. If I win somehow, great. If not, oh well.


That's exactly what I do.  If you aren't writing off gambling losses as an entertainment expense, but instead go in expecting to win, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.  Do the maths, study it out.  I'll take whatever I plan to spend and get it in $5's.  I play $5 on a machine, if it gets to $10 I cash out and pocket the winnings.  When it hits 0, it's gone.  Usually I'll walk out with around 60 cents on the dollar that I spent, though I do always play a customary $20 hand of blackjack on the way out, which I have never won.
 
2013-07-09 08:29:41 AM  
No place more depressing than a casino.  On the Gulf coast, I went into one and saw a whole line of people at Progressive Nickel slot machines, each one on a hoverround, hooked up to an oxygen bottle, shoving cigarettes into and out of the holes in their throats, all hoping for the big miracle.  I thought maybe the vibe was different in Vegas, but alas, it's the same.

If you gamble money with the full expectation of losing, and do it for the 'entertainment' factor, then you get your moneys worth I suppose. But the bottom line is still the same, sheep getting fleeced.
 
2013-07-09 08:33:11 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What I've found is that slot machines will typically pay out a small winning, like $60, a few spins in. This is to get you hooked.


In the immortal (approximate) words of Harry Anderson: If you think they'll let you win a few just to get you hooked, you're already hooked and halfway to the boat.
 
2013-07-09 08:33:28 AM  

Harry Freakstorm


/GIS Rick Romero Facebook is interesting


How interesting is it if you spell his name correctly?


Ric, not Rick
 
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