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2013-07-08 11:53:13 PM  
Why animal shelters? Why not backyard BBQs?
 
2013-07-08 11:59:15 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Why animal shelters? Why not backyard BBQs?


They are likely equally clueless on how to slaughter a chicken and process it for cooking.

My grandma taught my sister & I how to do so when I was 8 & baby sister was 7-years old. About the only thing we weren't allow to do was gut the chicken & that was mainly because it was too easy to puncture the chicken's intestines with the very sharp knife we used.
 
2013-07-09 12:12:40 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Why animal shelters? Why not backyard BBQs?

They are likely equally clueless on how to slaughter a chicken and process it for cooking.

My grandma taught my sister & I how to do so when I was 8 & baby sister was 7-years old. About the only thing we weren't allow to do was gut the chicken & that was mainly because it was too easy to puncture the chicken's intestines with the very sharp knife we used.


Fair enough, I wouldn't know how to do it, either. But I'm sure google could help, or at least help me find someone who could do it for me. Laying hens aren't pets and shouldn't be dropped off at animal shelters, IMO. Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.
 
2013-07-09 12:16:05 AM  
Mitch Taylor's Bro: Laying hens aren't pets and shouldn't be dropped off at animal shelters, IMO. Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.

Yeah, I was about to say I wouldn't raise slaughter chickens in an urban environment. I'd love to raise them for eggs, but I think you'd need well over an acre according to zoning laws here. I'd also like to do goats for milk, and set up a aquaculture house to raise fish and plants in the same area (fish waste provides the food for the plants, plants provide the oxygen and microbes for the fish, not sure what the technical term for it is).

I'd like to do some legit sustainable living improvements, not just pay lip service to the idea.
 
2013-07-09 12:42:42 AM  
People these days don't know that hens only lay eggs for up to four years but can live for up to ten.
And they don't know how to kill and dress a chicken, apparently.

I'm not saying I'm one of the people that do. I feel bad that I don't know how to dress a chicken and I'm embarrassed that I didn't know that hens lived for six years past their egg-laying years. I obviously need to read more.
 
2013-07-09 12:58:44 AM  
So, you're saying KFC is going to have a special on 8 piece buckets?
 
2013-07-09 01:04:02 AM  
The best part is when the hipster doesn't make a proper cage, a fox comes into the neighborhood, summarily beheads the lot of the chickens one night and yada yada yada.

/true story
//makes me feel warm inside
 
2013-07-09 01:11:22 AM  
A problem that can be eaten, yada, yada, yada .... Brantgoose's Rule.
 
2013-07-09 01:39:02 AM  

Peki: I'd like to do some legit sustainable living improvements, not just pay lip service to the idea.


It's all I can do to sustain myself. Don't know how much more I could do to grow veggies in my 1-br condo :( I checked out this company called Window Farms at Maker Faire a few years ago, but decided my cats would knock that stuff down and get hydroponic stuff all over the place.
 
2013-07-09 05:25:24 AM  
you lot have a real issue with these 'hipsters' don't you.

a farker accused me of being a hispter the other day because I said 'le sigh'
 
2013-07-09 05:25:56 AM  

Lando Lincoln: People these days don't know that hens only lay eggs for up to four years but can live for up to ten. And they don't know how to kill and dress a chicken, apparently. I'm not saying I'm one of the people that do. I feel bad that I don't know how to dress a chicken and I'm embarrassed that I didn't know that hens lived for six years past their egg-laying years. I obviously need to read more.



On a commercial farm they get two years of laying out of them. After that egg production drops off. The hens end up in canned stock,broth or soup. Killing laying is a nasty stinky job with the scalding singing plucking etc.

 
2013-07-09 05:46:07 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Killing laying is a nasty stinky job with the scalding singing plucking etc.


What do they sing?
 
2013-07-09 05:47:50 AM  
 
2013-07-09 05:49:26 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Mid_mo_mad_man: Killing laying is a nasty stinky job with the scalding singing plucking etc.

What do they sing?


Arias, and only the fat hens.
 
2013-07-09 05:56:58 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Laying hens aren't pets and shouldn't be dropped off at animal shelters

 IMO. Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.

Easier said than done, for the hipster.  This requires many trips upstate to interview farmers and tour farms, checking to make sure the hen will be happy, cage free, etc etc.
 
2013-07-09 06:00:42 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Mid_mo_mad_man: Killing laying is a nasty stinky job with the scalding singing plucking etc.

What do they sing?


This obviously
 
2013-07-09 06:01:06 AM  
The Man just wants to keep urban chickens down.
 
2013-07-09 06:07:49 AM  

Peki: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Laying hens aren't pets and shouldn't be dropped off at animal shelters, IMO. Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.

Yeah, I was about to say I wouldn't raise slaughter chickens in an urban environment. I'd love to raise them for eggs, but I think you'd need well over an acre according to zoning laws here. I'd also like to do goats for milk, and set up a aquaculture house to raise fish and plants in the same area (fish waste provides the food for the plants, plants provide the oxygen and microbes for the fish, not sure what the technical term for it is).

I'd like to do some legit sustainable living improvements, not just pay lip service to the idea.


Aquaponics. Throw in some Vermiculture with your plant waste too. Fish like worms. Chickens do too.
 
2013-07-09 06:08:23 AM  

aevorea: i upped my meds-up yours: Mid_mo_mad_man: Killing laying is a nasty stinky job with the scalding singing plucking etc.

What do they sing?

Arias, and only the fat hens.


well done!


/no, thats how I order my chicken... ;)
 
2013-07-09 06:08:47 AM  
Chickens? Hard? My experiences with them have always pretty much been dust 'em every now-and-then, feed 'em, water 'em, let them out of the coop during the day and everybody will be happy as a clam.

Never thought of chickens as time-consuming. You have to be supremely lazy to abandon a chicken for being too much to handle.
 
2013-07-09 06:11:06 AM  

Lando Lincoln: People these days don't know that hens only lay eggs for up to four years but can live for up to ten.
And they don't know how to kill and dress a chicken, apparently.

.


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CHICKEN PANTS!!!
 
2013-07-09 06:12:36 AM  

gameshowhost: The best part is when the hipster doesn't make a proper cage, a fox comes into the neighborhood, summarily beheads the lot of the chickens one night and yada yada yada.


Lol, reminds me of what took my last flock. A god-damn black bear roamed into my yard and ripped apart the sheet metal (!!!) side of my coop.

Ate most of my birds and scared the life out of the last two. :(

I wish I only had to worry about foxes.
 
2013-07-09 06:14:17 AM  
+1 for use of the word "sojourn"
 
2013-07-09 06:14:34 AM  
Urban chickens
ts4.mm.bing.net ?
 
2013-07-09 06:18:39 AM  
I don't get this. Why would you just not eat the damn things? They're livestock, not pets. WTF did they think the end of the chicken's life was going to be like? Just kill and eat the damn things already. If nothing else, just take them to Chinatown or upscale restaurant and sell them as meat to some butcher. Yeah, I don't know how to slaughter a chicken either, but I'm also not raising any, so I don't have a responsibility to need to know how.

Even better question: Why aren't the animal shelters doing any of this either, or at least referring these people to game wardens, food banks, or something?
 
2013-07-09 06:25:57 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.


A farmer may not want them. They're worried that they may be carrying something that could spread to the rest of their birds. Just like the pond supply place near me won't just take fish people don't want, same reason. They're not going to risk the rest of their animals because of some stupid farking hipster.

Any one who drops off chickens or any animals at a shelter should be fined to pay for their upkeep. If you're going to be an irresponsible douche with animals, pets or otherwise, you should be forced to pay. And take a dick punch.
 
2013-07-09 06:26:08 AM  
"urban chickens"?

i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-07-09 06:27:50 AM  
We have 2 hens in our yard and they couldn't be easier to take care of. They are much easier than dogs and not much more work than cats.

Plus cats and dogs don't lay eggs.

If you can't take care of a chicken, good luck having a dog or a human child. Jesus.
 
2013-07-09 06:29:38 AM  
But, are the shelters local?
 
2013-07-09 06:43:32 AM  
What an abandoned chicken may look like.
 
2013-07-09 06:50:32 AM  

abhorrent1: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.

A farmer may not want them. They're worried that they may be carrying something that could spread to the rest of their birds. Just like the pond supply place near me won't just take fish people don't want, same reason. They're not going to risk the rest of their animals because of some stupid farking hipster.

Any one who drops off chickens or any animals at a shelter should be fined to pay for their upkeep. If you're going to be an irresponsible douche with animals, pets or otherwise, you should be forced to pay. And take a dick punch.


if people have to pay a fine to take chickens to an animal (say that fast) shelter they'll just dump them at the side of the road
 
2013-07-09 06:50:35 AM  

boozel: Chickens? Hard? My experiences with them have always pretty much been dust 'em every now-and-then, feed 'em, water 'em, let them out of the coop during the day and everybody will be happy as a clam.

Never thought of chickens as time-consuming. You have to be supremely lazy to abandon a chicken for being too much to handle.


Came to say this. Other than occasionally treating a respiratory infection or something, there's not a lot of work involved in raising chickens. The main thing is to keep their environment clean, otherwise just give them food and fresh water, pretty much.
 
2013-07-09 06:51:18 AM  
Well, the Urban Chickens were ok, I guess, until they got so popular. I gave mine to a shelter before anyone really knew what Urban Chickens were all about. I still eat eggs every now and then, but its not the same.
 
2013-07-09 06:51:22 AM  

LewDux: NSFC


Good stuff.
 
2013-07-09 06:55:29 AM  

Lando Lincoln: People these days don't know that hens only lay eggs for up to four years but can live for up to ten.
And they don't know how to kill and dress a chicken, apparently.

I'm not saying I'm one of the people that do. I feel bad that I don't know how to dress a chicken and I'm embarrassed that I didn't know that hens lived for six years past their egg-laying years. I obviously need to read more.


Huh-uh! We had chickens when I was just a little poo, and though they stopped putting out an egg a day each, they were still laying until they were quite old.

Then they were allowed to retire, live out their days, and were given a decent burial by way of saying thanks for all the eggs. :)
 
2013-07-09 06:58:07 AM  

Claude Ballse: I don't get this. Why would you just not eat the damn things? They're livestock, not pets. WTF did they think the end of the chicken's life was going to be like? Just kill and eat the damn things already. If nothing else, just take them to Chinatown or upscale restaurant and sell them as meat to some butcher. Yeah, I don't know how to slaughter a chicken either, but I'm also not raising any, so I don't have a responsibility to need to know how.



Birds that have stopped laying due to age taste nasty and are tough as hell.  I've tried drowning them in spice for Mexican meals or BBQ, and that still doesn't work. The birds you get at the grocery are only a couple of months old, not 3-4 years old. No upscale restaurant is going to take in an older bird that is nasty and stringy.  Further its messy, smelly work to pluck and butcher a chicken, something you don't want in a commercial kitchen.  Plus the restaurant can't guarantee the health of the bird either.  You can't have paying customers getting sick.

/dogs eat very well when we have to cull the non-laying hens.
 
2013-07-09 07:01:57 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Well, the Urban Chickens were ok, I guess, until they got so popular. I gave mine to a shelter before anyone really knew what Urban Chickens were all about. I still eat eggs every now and then, but its not the same.


*golf clap*

In all seriousness though, I really don't get the "urban livestock" thing. It's not that I don't like the idea of being more sustainable, but I worry about public health. Keeping livestock in densely populated areas is a recipe for disease mutations & outbreaks. Just look at large cities in China and what they go through often with different strains of bird influenzas jumping to humans.

Leave animals to actual farmers. If you live in the city and want to be sustainable, stick to planting a garden. It's easier, more efficient per acre, and safer for everyone.
 
2013-07-09 07:05:21 AM  
lulz. moneyed hipsters who don't understand how to care for anything except themselves.
 
2013-07-09 07:23:50 AM  

Lady J: you lot have a real issue with these 'hipsters' don't you.

a farker accused me of being a hispter the other day because I said 'le sigh'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gv3ADNVJdU
 
2013-07-09 07:23:53 AM  
We have six suburban chooks. Suprisingly easy to maintain when four people are doing it. The kids love it even though they get the poop maintenance.
 
2013-07-09 07:25:07 AM  
I read that as "urban children" and was very confused. Need coffee stat.
 
2013-07-09 07:28:48 AM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Bathia_Mapes: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Why animal shelters? Why not backyard BBQs?

They are likely equally clueless on how to slaughter a chicken and process it for cooking.

My grandma taught my sister & I how to do so when I was 8 & baby sister was 7-years old. About the only thing we weren't allow to do was gut the chicken & that was mainly because it was too easy to puncture the chicken's intestines with the very sharp knife we used.

Fair enough, I wouldn't know how to do it, either. But I'm sure google could help, or at least help me find someone who could do it for me. Laying hens aren't pets and shouldn't be dropped off at animal shelters, IMO. Just find a farmer who wants them fercrissakes.


If you live in a urban area just look for a cool Mexican old school family to clean the chickens. I gave a live one to my neighbors because my snake would not eat it.
 
2013-07-09 07:30:22 AM  

Bob Down: We have six suburban chooks. Suprisingly easy to maintain when four people are doing it. The kids love it even though they get the poop maintenance.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-09 07:30:44 AM  

DangerGentleman: lulz. moneyed hipsters who don't understand how to care for anything except themselves.


Even that's debatable.  Not sure if a steady diet of Porkslap Pale Ale and authentic Peruvian/Burmese fusion take-out equates to taking care of yourself.
 
2013-07-09 07:34:15 AM  
Hipster chicken farming has been linked to salmonella outbreaks...

http://now.msn.com/chicken-salmonella-outbreaks-linked-to-backyard-a nd -urban-coops

What a hipster chicken farmer may look like:

blu.stb.s-msn.com
 
2013-07-09 07:39:00 AM  

Winterssnowykiss: Claude Ballse: I don't get this. Why would you just not eat the damn things? They're livestock, not pets. WTF did they think the end of the chicken's life was going to be like? Just kill and eat the damn things already. If nothing else, just take them to Chinatown or upscale restaurant and sell them as meat to some butcher. Yeah, I don't know how to slaughter a chicken either, but I'm also not raising any, so I don't have a responsibility to need to know how.


Birds that have stopped laying due to age taste nasty and are tough as hell.  I've tried drowning them in spice for Mexican meals or BBQ, and that still doesn't work. The birds you get at the grocery are only a couple of months old, not 3-4 years old. No upscale restaurant is going to take in an older bird that is nasty and stringy.  Further its messy, smelly work to pluck and butcher a chicken, something you don't want in a commercial kitchen.  Plus the restaurant can't guarantee the health of the bird either.  You can't have paying customers getting sick.

/dogs eat very well when we have to cull the non-laying hens.


Old hens are for stewing, not frying or roasting. Their meat's pretty tough which is advantageous in a stewpot as it won't fall apart after long, slow cooking. The best way to fix them is with rolled (preferably) or dropped (meh) dumplings, seasoned with savory and a little chopped parsley plus salt, pepper and onions of course.
 
2013-07-09 07:40:49 AM  
We have backyard chickens.

The farkers won't stop plucking off each others feathers.  If we decide to get rid of them, I doubt I'd take them to a shelter.  I'd eat them, they have already half plucked themselves.
 
2013-07-09 07:43:30 AM  
Ok, I have 7 chickens so here are some non-hype answers to all your speculations:

They lay best in the first 2 years, then it's 20% reduction per year.  Farmers cull after 2 years, I'll cull at 3-4 years.
Yes, lots of emotional housewives keep them long after as pets.
There are a range of motivations for urban chickens and the kill vs no-kill is a touchy subject.
The effort to care for them is minimal but constant.  It's also NOT CHEAP.  These are not cheap eggs but they are darn good eggs!!!
You can't just give chickens away.  A new bird in an established flock will be brutally attacked and most likely killed.  Anyone who gets in to this who doesn't have a resource for killed sick or injured birds is probably negligent.  That said, idiots are in every hobby and profession so cut the rest of us some slack.
The article is amazingly sensationalized and there are tons of positive urban chicken articles out there.  As is the rest of the media, Fark greenlights far more cynical stories that dusty stories.
Chickens take very little space to properly maintain.  That said, zoning laws are arbitrary and vary all over the map.
And as for disease:  chickens produce far less waste than dogs.  I also don't leave chicken waste all over the sidewalk, in your front yard, along the bike path, in the park, etc etc...  Our city health inspector stated if owning dogs were as new of an idea as chickens then dogs are a far bigger threat than chickens any day.  And what is a 'salmonella outbreak' when I get 5 eggs a day?  Look how many national recalls happen from factory farms.  Millions of pounds of meat and produce.  I just got a call from my grocery store:  metal fragments may be found in my recent purchase of cottage cheese.  The risk factors of small flocks (and small farms in general) compared to factory produces food is absurdly limited by comparison.  But hey, enjoy your McSlime burgers...
 
2013-07-09 07:45:02 AM  
I talked a colleague out of getting 3 hens for her backyard using egg math; no less than a dozen eggs a week for her and her husband (no kids). She realized she had no need for that many eggs and dropped the idea.
 
2013-07-09 07:45:17 AM  

Lando Lincoln: People these days don't know that hens only lay eggs for up to four years


That is false.
 
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