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(SPIE.org)   Evidence for currently existing Life on Mars. This is a repeat of 1976, just with better data   (spie.org) divider line 59
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2013-07-08 04:35:18 PM
Ive been saying this for 8 months.

Life exists on Mars. It's near certain
 
2013-07-08 04:52:41 PM
img.dailymail.co.uk

Approve.

/fark you, ABC.
 
2013-07-08 05:23:52 PM
We shall see.

/personally, I could see it happening
 
2013-07-08 05:59:32 PM
OK, but where are my green Martian babes?
 
2013-07-08 06:03:34 PM
This could get very interesting.
 
2013-07-08 06:28:55 PM
Wonder if we'll ever know?
 
2013-07-08 06:32:13 PM
Im trying to make my first attempt at the Mars eqivalent of the Kerbin solar system, so if there isn't life there now there may be in the next few days once I strand a few Kermen there.

/obligatory KSP space thread sidebar
 
2013-07-08 06:44:00 PM
Without solid evidence, its probably just false-positives from the trash left over after Jesus's last house party.
 
2013-07-08 06:44:26 PM

Hot Lunch: OK, but where are my green Martian babes?


I want a triple-titted prostitute.
 
2013-07-08 06:47:10 PM
DRTFA but I thought the discovery of those goofy bastards  Halicephalobus mephisto pretty much changed the living shiat out of everything...
 
2013-07-08 07:06:59 PM
media1.break.com
 
2013-07-08 07:11:51 PM
Sounds like a god awful small affair.
 
2013-07-08 07:22:32 PM
But can they explain how Mickey Mouse grew up to be a cow?
 
2013-07-08 07:39:45 PM
That was a lot of them tricky word things on that page. /sign me up for the 3 titty chicks too
 
2013-07-08 07:42:32 PM
Quit landing in craters and start landing near known caves, next to the caps, and in the Big Valley.
 
rpm
2013-07-08 07:47:28 PM
International society for optics and photonics?

Shouldn't this be in Nature or Science? I question the level of peer review if this is where it ended up.
 
2013-07-08 07:48:21 PM
Clearly this is exactly how NASA would announce such a finding. A small post on an obscure website.

Good enough for me, MUST be true.
 
2013-07-08 07:49:18 PM
Oh yeah? How do you explain the face, pyramids and canals?
 
2013-07-08 07:54:12 PM

OceanVortex: Clearly this is exactly how NASA would announce such a finding. A small post on an obscure website.

Good enough for me, MUST be true.


I just listened to an interview with Buzz Aldran. NASA has a good plan for going to mars using robots to prefabricate a base and refuling station on the Moon and at L2, and people like Buzz have a good philosophy that if we go it's to colonize, but they are being budget farked every year.
 
2013-07-08 07:55:40 PM
NOUGAT....SOFT....CARAMEL....MILK.....CHOCOLATE....COATING......PLEASU RE YOU CAN'T MEASURE
 
2013-07-08 08:01:45 PM

nmemkha: Without solid evidence, its probably just false-positives from the trash left over after Jesus's last house party.


Some people wouldn't know solid evidence if it smacked them 'cross the face with it's tentacle.
 
2013-07-08 08:02:16 PM

Tenga: Quit landing in craters and start landing near known caves, next to the caps, and in the Big Valley.


They tried that but Barbara Stanwyck kept shooting the rovers with her shotgun....
 
2013-07-08 08:28:07 PM

rpm: International society for optics and photonics?

Shouldn't this be in Nature or Science? I question the level of peer review if this is where it ended up.


Bonus points for all the self-citations he references.
 
2013-07-08 08:28:54 PM
Better send up a probe.

cdn.static.ovimg.com
 
2013-07-08 08:36:41 PM
man i hope they don't find life there
 
2013-07-08 08:44:49 PM
If there is, it's a god awful small affair.
 
2013-07-08 08:54:39 PM

Tenga: Quit landing in craters and start landing near known caves, next to the caps, and in the Big Valley.


bp0.blogger.com

"Nick!  Heath!  Jared!  There's a fire in the barn!"
 
2013-07-08 08:56:46 PM

OceanVortex: Clearly this is exactly how NASA would announce such a finding. A small post on an obscure website.

Good enough for me, MUST be true.


It looks like an interpretation of the publicly released SAM results.   Though I don't buy that interpretation.  Even if  the Viking results were life, Curiosity was not designed to answer that question.  So I doubt this will convince anyone not already convinced by the original 1976 results.

If they guy who cut the budget of the Viking science experiments is still alive, can we slap him?   The original designer anticipated the objections that were eventually made.  He would have had separate experiments which left-handed organics were for some runs in one and right-handed organics were added in others.  To save money a racemic mixture was used.   If the appropriate chemical reactions occurred only in the right-handed version or only in the left-handed version then the life hypothesis would have been much more strongly supported.  If both the left and right-handed versions of the molecules reacted, then it would be almost certainly weird chemistry.
 
2013-07-08 08:58:56 PM

Tenga: Quit landing in craters and start landing near known caves, next to the caps, and in the Big Valley.


Can't communicate with the rover if it goes into a cave and the caps get too cold, you only get about half a year in.  The Mariner Valleys would be interesting, though.  I believe the reason they went here is because the impact exposed layers of sedimentary history going back millions of years.
 
2013-07-08 09:00:53 PM
Wasn't there some research somewhere that said it would have been possible for an asteroid to have hit Earth, and then flung pieces of earth into the solar system with some possibly hitting Mars thus bringing microbial life to that planet? Been a while since I've looked into that.
 
2013-07-08 09:01:24 PM

gameshowhost: DRTFA but I thought the discovery of those goofy bastards  Halicephalobus mephisto pretty much changed the living shiat out of everything...


I had not heard of those before. Thank you.
 
2013-07-08 09:01:40 PM

RedVentrue: nmemkha: Without solid evidence, its probably just false-positives from the trash left over after Jesus's last house party.

Some people wouldn't know solid evidence if it smacked them 'cross the face with it's tentacle.


Oh you mean like an actual life form instead of "the possibility of life" hand-waving? Sorry, not impressed.

Yeah, call me when you got that tiger. What? I should believe without proof? That's not science.
 
2013-07-08 09:11:39 PM

RedVentrue: nmemkha: Without solid evidence, its probably just false-positives from the trash left over after Jesus's last house party.

Some people wouldn't know solid evidence if it smacked them 'cross the face with it's tentacle.


Some people wouldn't know a possessive pronoun if it smacked them across the face with an extra apostrophe.
 
2013-07-08 09:14:02 PM

Lordserb: Wasn't there some research somewhere that said it would have been possible for an asteroid to have hit Earth, and then flung pieces of earth into the solar system with some possibly hitting Mars thus bringing microbial life to that planet? Been a while since I've looked into that.


Yes, or vice versa, if life originated on Mars first back when it hadn't lost most of it's atmosphere due to having such low gravity.
 
2013-07-08 09:14:03 PM

talkertopc: gameshowhost: DRTFA but I thought the discovery of those goofy bastards  Halicephalobus mephisto pretty much changed the living shiat out of everything...

I had not heard of those before. Thank you.


WTF I made that name up
 
2013-07-08 09:24:27 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

"It's ALIVE!"
 
2013-07-08 09:25:38 PM

nmemkha: Yeah, call me when you got that tiger. What? I should believe without proof? That's not science.


I don't think you quite appreciate the earnest, naive fervor some people have for space.
 
2013-07-08 09:32:05 PM
Well, that's just Hunky Dory.
 
2013-07-08 09:38:25 PM
I'm curious what would happen if microbial life is discovered. Would Marian life completely take colonization or terraforming off the table due to concerns about contamination destroying the native life? If so, is there ANY world we could colonize if life is common enough that it forms on any planet with conditions halfway hospitable to humans? There likely would be no way to do it without wrecking native ecosystems, or possibly derailing potential evolution of sentience millions of years in the virologist roof that world. Unless you did some magical Genesis Device stuff on a dead rock, I don't know how you could colonize or terraform a world in clear conscience.
 
2013-07-08 09:40:28 PM
Millions of years in the future I mean. WTF android tablet keyboard?
 
2013-07-08 10:09:14 PM

Mad_Radhu: I don't know how you could colonize or terraform a world in clear conscience.


i hate people like you.
 
2013-07-08 10:39:37 PM
fire up the quattro!
 
2013-07-08 10:42:55 PM
Levin shows MSL meteorological data proving that liquid water can exist on Mars right now.

If that work was already published, it needed citation not reproduction as original research.

If not, it was worthy of its own paper.

Liquid water is where we should go looking for life on Mars.
 
2013-07-08 11:01:33 PM

OceanVortex: Clearly this is exactly how NASA would announce such a finding. A small post on an obscure website.

Good enough for me, MUST be true.


Damned if they hype it, damned if they bury it.
www.enterprisemission.com
 
2013-07-08 11:05:55 PM
Lovelock already proved there's no life on Mars. The atmosphere is in chemical equilibrium.
 
2013-07-08 11:11:47 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: nmemkha: Yeah, call me when you got that tiger. What? I should believe without proof? That's not science.

I don't think you quite appreciate the earnest, naive fervor some people have for space.


While I share your opinions on looking for another place to live in this solar system, what do you think of travel to other systems? No FTL, just generational ships.
 
2013-07-08 11:30:15 PM

mr lawson: Mad_Radhu: I don't know how you could colonize or terraform a world in clear conscience.

i hate people like you.


It is an interesting ethical dilemma. Do you terraform a planet and replace the native organisms with Earth ones? For Mars, you can just stick the microbes in a zoo because the planet is inhospitable to higher lifeforms anyway, but what do you do if you arrive at a planet with higher life forms that have the evolutionary potential for sentience? Do you colonize and prevent a new intelligence from potentially taking hold? It is definitely something that will cause debate at some point in the future. Does humanity have the "right" to colonize the stars at the expense at native life forms?
 
2013-07-08 11:44:55 PM
Microbial life?

Ew.

www.gojo.com
 
2013-07-09 12:06:30 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Lovelock already proved there's no life on Mars. The atmosphere is in chemical equilibrium.


Atmospheric homeostasis, even if proven, isn't proof that life doesn't exist.
 
2013-07-09 01:11:20 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Lovelock already proved there's no life on Mars. The atmosphere is in chemical equilibrium.


*lovecock joke*
 
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