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(National Journal)   Alabama is a state so red that the highest profile Democratic poltician in the state became a Republican a few years ago and there are no Democrats elected to statewide office. As of right now, that's guaranteed to be true after 2014 as well   (nationaljournal.com) divider line 190
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2013-07-08 11:50:01 AM
roll tide
 
2013-07-08 11:57:27 AM
and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?
 
2013-07-08 12:02:04 PM

FlashHarry: and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?


Pfft! The South shall rise again!
 
2013-07-08 12:05:11 PM
WOw, that's pretty rough.  When you have a state so red that even the one elected black guy holding statewide office switches his party affiliation to Republican...in the deep South no less,   that's the definition of a One-party state.
 
2013-07-08 12:05:30 PM
 
2013-07-08 12:20:42 PM
The last time I was in Alabama (September 2012), I got to overhear somebody's cell phone conversation where they said, "Well, everybody knows Romney is going to roll Obama by at least 10 points anyway..."

I'm pretty sure he wasn't being sarcastic.
 
2013-07-08 12:27:43 PM
You can vote for any candidate you want, so long as it's the Red one.
 
2013-07-08 12:49:22 PM
You can lead a retard to the voting booth but you can't make him pull the correct lever.
 
2013-07-08 12:51:38 PM
Is this where I say I'm fine with the Confederacy getting a second chance of going its own way?
 
2013-07-08 01:15:09 PM
Euthanasia.

It's the only humane thing to do.
 
2013-07-08 01:16:20 PM
Why don't they go all the way and make the Democrat (sic) Party illegal?
 
2013-07-08 01:16:33 PM
At one time "better dead than red" meant something.
 
2013-07-08 01:18:51 PM
fishduck.com
 
2013-07-08 01:19:20 PM
I lived in Alabama for years and really liked it. Except for the politics. That was enough to drive me to the relative sanity of Florida.
 
2013-07-08 01:19:34 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: A bit old, but... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/opinion/25krugman.html


The good thing is that that nobody in Alabama could read that.
 
2013-07-08 01:19:37 PM
Probably has something to do with the fact that Southern Democrats ran roughshod over there unchecked for a while before the Civil Rights era focused on how big bigot jerks they were.

George Wallace was a Democrat too. Look it up.
 
2013-07-08 01:19:59 PM

WorldCitizen: Is this where I say I'm fine with the Confederacy getting a second chance of going its own way?


Okay, fine.  But dibs on Arizona going with the North.  I don't feel like moving.
 
2013-07-08 01:20:09 PM
That the sort of statewide mindset that resembles Best Korea.
 
2013-07-08 01:20:25 PM
Funny - it's the exact same way here in Texas, too.
 
2013-07-08 01:22:22 PM

dryknife: At one time "better dead than red" meant something.


to be fair they are brain dead... and now red

Dead Red Damnation
 
2013-07-08 01:22:53 PM
Alabama....at least we're not Mississippi!
 
2013-07-08 01:23:33 PM
Welcome to Alabama, the World's Largest Echo Chamber.
 
2013-07-08 01:24:37 PM

Abner Doon: WorldCitizen: Is this where I say I'm fine with the Confederacy getting a second chance of going its own way?

Okay, fine.  But dibs on Arizona going with the North.  I don't feel like moving.


No deal unless you can find a way to ship Ohio south.
 
2013-07-08 01:26:02 PM
I expect the usual rightist chorus to be in here with their usual cries of "one-party dictatorship".

Oh, wait, that only applies in states where the Dems hold the balance of power.
 
2013-07-08 01:26:06 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Alabama....at least we're not Mississippi!


Mississippi has legalized gambling.

Point: Mississippi
 
2013-07-08 01:26:44 PM
It would help if there were any Democrats on the ballots. Last election the options were (R) or (R)
 
2013-07-08 01:28:39 PM

rjakobi: Probably has something to do with the fact that Southern Democrats ran roughshod over there unchecked for a while before the Civil Rights era focused on how big bigot jerks they were.

George Wallace was a Democrat too. Look it up.


On the off chance you're serious...the Southern Strategy. Look it up.
 
2013-07-08 01:29:45 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Alabama....at least we're not Mississippi!


Are there special VIP rooms in Hell? I mean, really.
 
2013-07-08 01:31:05 PM

FlashHarry: and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?


Well, they're 46th in the nation in per capita GDP. On the other hand, their unemployment rate is better than the national rate by nearly a full point.
 
2013-07-08 01:32:48 PM
The curious thing about places like Alabama is they CHOOSE to be backwards morans who refuse to join the 20th Century. For them, it's almost a source of pride. Indignant pride, but still pride.

They have no one to blame but themselves.
 
2013-07-08 01:33:11 PM
I'd volunteer, but unless there's a ton of money involved I'm not going to set foot in Alabama.

// Only way I'd join a party is as a candidate.
 
2013-07-08 01:34:28 PM

rjakobi: Probably has something to do with the fact that Southern Democrats ran roughshod over there unchecked for a while before the Civil Rights era focused on how big bigot jerks they were.

George Wallace was a Democrat too. Look it up.


Top hue! Good one, dude!
 
2013-07-08 01:35:01 PM
Alabama is third in Infant mortality, ninth in poverty, 47th in college graduates, 28th in unemployment rate, 33rd in average salary, 38th in doctors per thousand, 20th in collecting largesse from the Feds--in other words, Alabama is right up there in terms of good places to drop out of school and then watch your children die, at best mediocre in every other baseline of desirability. Hell, they only come in 20th in terms of friendliness to business, which means not only do you have to live in squalor, you're not even buying gold-plated toilet seats for the job creators. Another GOPistan to avoid.
 
2013-07-08 01:35:12 PM

theknuckler_33: FlashHarry: and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?

Well, they're 46th in the nation in per capita GDP. On the other hand, their unemployment rate is better than the national rate by nearly a full point.


Low-paying call centers galore out there.
 
2013-07-08 01:38:35 PM
This isn't as South-centric as you'd think. In much of the Midwest, Democrats only run for offices with higher concentrations of liberals living in the district, or at best you get a Democrat who pulled the short straw. My last state ballot had numerous Republican vs. Republican races, and unchallenged ones as well.
 
2013-07-08 01:39:45 PM

clambam: Alabama is third in Infant mortality, ninth in poverty, 47th in college graduates, 28th in unemployment rate, 33rd in average salary, 38th in doctors per thousand, 20th in collecting largesse from the Feds--in other words, Alabama is right up there in terms of good places to drop out of school and then watch your children die, at best mediocre in every other baseline of desirability. Hell, they only come in 20th in terms of friendliness to business, which means not only do you have to live in squalor, you're not even buying gold-plated toilet seats for the job creators. Another GOPistan to avoid.


You don't understand Alabamians. They take PRIDE in that shiat. See how they aren't 50th in anything? That's the motto in Alabama, there's always someone worse.
 
2013-07-08 01:42:12 PM
Ah, yes, Alabama, where those erudite, worldly voters were among the first to vote in favor of being tougher on Mess'cans so'ns they could take their country back. And then, it was time to harvest the crops, and the state reaction was...

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Oh, that's right, they voted themselves into a shiat sandwich. Let's just sit back, deny the state money from the evil fed'rl gubmint that they hate so much, and watch it, "Hey ya'll, watch this!!!" itself to death.
 
2013-07-08 01:43:56 PM

Bane of Broone: theknuckler_33: FlashHarry: and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?

Well, they're 46th in the nation in per capita GDP. On the other hand, their unemployment rate is better than the national rate by nearly a full point.

Low-paying call centers galore out there.


I don't know about that. Surely they have a much lower cost of living than many other parts of the country and clearly that will put downward pressure on per capita GDP.

At the same time, the 5 largest employers in the state are government jobs. Very bootstrappy.
 
2013-07-08 01:45:46 PM
This is the state where its constitution specifically mandates segregated education. The portions to that effect are of course moot due to the federal constitution, but the said part is that twice in recent memory (2004 and 2011, I think?), Alabama voters were given the opportunity to strike that language from their constitution, a nice symbolic gesture. In both cases, the repeal failed.

The arguments given were pretty transparent too. The primary argument (IIRC) was that by removing the requirement for segregated schools, the state would then somehow be required to provide schooling for every student which would (scary voice) raise taxes.

For the record, Alabama already requires schooling for every student.

So, you've got a nice trifecta of Teahadism: racism (the refusal to repeal a horribly racist law, even if just symbolically), fear of education (oh no, we might have to educate our kids!), and fear of taxes (oh no, we have to come up with some flimsy excuse for this - let's work taxes in somehow so we don't feel bad about our racist selves!)
 
2013-07-08 01:46:35 PM

Donnchadha: The last time I was in Alabama (September 2012), I got to overhear somebody's cell phone conversation where they said, "Well, everybody knows Romney is going to roll Obama by at least 10 points anyway..."

I'm pretty sure he wasn't being sarcastic.


According to the article, he DID. .... in Alabama.

The article is awfully light on any WHY it is that the state has so completely rejected the Democrats. There must be a better answer than "they'se dumb, hur hur"
 
2013-07-08 01:47:42 PM

EyeballKid: Ah, yes, Alabama, where those erudite, worldly voters were among the first to vote in favor of being tougher on Mess'cans so'ns they could take their country back. And then, it was time to harvest the crops, and the state reaction was...

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Oh, that's right, they voted themselves into a shiat sandwich. Let's just sit back, deny the state money from the evil fed'rl gubmint that they hate so much, and watch it, "Hey ya'll, watch this!!!" itself to death.


Yeah that didn't work out so well for them when the executives of Mercedes-Benz were detained because they didn't have proper American documentation. I'm serious, Alabama people are really dumb. I have met small animals with larger cognitive skills than your typical Alabama Man.
 
2013-07-08 01:49:11 PM

Confabulat: EyeballKid: Ah, yes, Alabama, where those erudite, worldly voters were among the first to vote in favor of being tougher on Mess'cans so'ns they could take their country back. And then, it was time to harvest the crops, and the state reaction was...

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Oh, that's right, they voted themselves into a shiat sandwich. Let's just sit back, deny the state money from the evil fed'rl gubmint that they hate so much, and watch it, "Hey ya'll, watch this!!!" itself to death.

Yeah that didn't work out so well for them when the executives of Mercedes-Benz were detained because they didn't have proper American documentation. I'm serious, Alabama people are really dumb. I have met small animals with larger cognitive skills than your typical Alabama Man.


You know, to their credit, they did actually enforce that law against *gasp* white people as well. Not saying it was a good or right law, just that I was surprised that it wasn't entirely enforced selectively against people who were (or looked) Hispanic.
 
2013-07-08 01:50:17 PM

BojanglesPaladin: The article is awfully light on any WHY it is that the state has so completely rejected the Democrats. There must be a better answer than "they'se dumb, hur hur"


I've been there, it's an oddly culty state. I've spent most of my life in Florida, and Floridians all hate each other or ignore each other. No one in Tampa gives a rat's ass about someone in Ft. Walton Beach or Miami for god's sake, screw those assholes.

Alabama people tend to see themselves against the world. They are united in a cause against, I dunno, modern thinking, modern ways of life, that sort of thing. And a Mobile boy will feel attached to a Huntsville boy, even if they've never visited their respective cities. They're just weirdoes, man, really.
 
2013-07-08 01:50:18 PM
driving from DC to New Orleans, as I have done many times, takes you on a cultural road trip of the south in all its glorious variation,  especially if one of your travelling companions is a slightly-built make with mid-back length purple hair.  North Carolina was friendly enough if provincal (Waffle House waitress exclaiming incredously  "honey, is your hair PURPLE?  Did you DYE it that way?  Where on earth can you get PURPLE hair dye"  etc)  GA was scarily and agressively xenophobic.  (Trooper who pulled us over for speeding gave us a friendly warning to stay on the interstates because 'round those parts some of the local law "might not like our type").  And MS was, poor as hell, but incredibly hopistable and welcoming (first rest stop in the state was an antebellum mansion where nice old ladies served you complimentary glasses of Coca-cola and urged you to set a spell on the lovely old couches and chairs scattered around).  But Alabama?  it was just...agressively awful and inhospitable in every way.  Their welcome center rest stop was a dingy strip of grass off the interstate with huge iron bars on the vending machiness and prominent signs that loiterers would be proscuted by the state police (at a rest stop no less) and signs in the washroom forbidding the filling of water bottles...and that was the HIGH point of the trip through AL
 
2013-07-08 01:50:24 PM
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2013-07-08 01:50:26 PM

rjakobi: Probably has something to do with the fact that Southern Democrats ran roughshod over there unchecked for a while before the Civil Rights era focused on how big bigot jerks they were.

George Wallace was a Democrat too. Look it up.


Those southern democrats became republicans.
 
2013-07-08 01:52:37 PM

theknuckler_33: Bane of Broone: theknuckler_33: FlashHarry: and how is alabama doing vis-a-vis economic growth, education, infant mortality, etc.?

Well, they're 46th in the nation in per capita GDP. On the other hand, their unemployment rate is better than the national rate by nearly a full point.

Low-paying call centers galore out there.

I don't know about that. Surely they have a much lower cost of living than many other parts of the country and clearly that will put downward pressure on per capita GDP.

At the same time, the 5 largest employers in the state are government jobs. Very bootstrappy.


when there's nothing to spend money on, you don't need an income.
 
2013-07-08 01:56:10 PM
Alabama just sits there every day making me feel better about Georgia.

/and insulating me from Mississippi
//I can see Alabama from my front porch
///slashies and burnies
 
2013-07-08 01:56:18 PM

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Holy crap, look at Eastern Kentucky! I'd say there are plenty of Klan rallies there, but the fire might just terrify them and send them back to their caves.
 
2013-07-08 01:59:58 PM
Meh.  Democrats dominated Alabama state politics for the past 100 years,  and the  state was pretty screwed up all that time, too.

/Both sides are bad.  Vote FSM.
 
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