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(WPTV)   Will the prosecution cry "Uncle" after GZ's uncle's testimony? Will the judge rule that the defense can't present a defense because it might cause the jury to decide "not guilty"? Will these Zimmerman trial threads ever end? Not today   (wptv.com) divider line 134
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2013-07-08 09:46:36 AM  
8 votes:
Will the judge reveal recover from his amnesia long enough to remember what happened in the boathouse?!   Will George reveal that he's pregnant with Trayvon's baby?!

Tune in for another episode of "Florida".
2013-07-08 08:34:16 AM  
5 votes:

nekom: doglover:
It's what's called a tragedy. Or a tradegy if you're dyslexic.

Or if you can't read cursvie.


It's really hard to read cursive on Fark because of the filter...
2013-07-08 03:52:01 PM  
4 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-07-08 10:30:54 AM  
4 votes:

Radioactive Ass: No. No you can not. What we have is W#8 saying that's what she thought that she heard. There is no recording of that phone call (in evidence, (maybe go ask the NSA if they have a copy in their servers somewhere).


"The prosecution calls Edward Snowden"
2013-07-08 03:00:16 PM  
3 votes:
I don't ever want my old Master to testify in court now.

"How would you rate him on a scale of 1 to 10."

"HAHAHAHAH.  I WOULD RATE HIM POTATO!"
2013-07-08 11:33:42 AM  
3 votes:
I'll admit, it's still funny to me that Zimmerman shops at Men's Wearhouse.

/shrug
2013-07-08 11:28:28 AM  
3 votes:

neversubmit: Yes please: genepool lifeboat: jehovahs witness protection: And the maximum sentence for being innocent is?

Probably a lifetime of harassment.

Yeah, but probably a short lifetime.  If you really want to see race riots, just wait until they convict whoever kills him.

White people haven't rioted since the 20's.


You, apparently, have forgotten the Cabbage Patch Dolls riots of the early '80s. Shudder.

3.bp.blogspot.com
2013-07-08 11:26:06 AM  
3 votes:
Is there some sort of bullpen where there is an endless supply of Farkers waiting to come in a post the exact same crap over and over.
2013-07-08 11:03:52 AM  
3 votes:

RaceBoatDriver: For all the acquitters, would Zimmerman make a good cop?


If he kills a black teen and gets away with it, I can imagine at least 3 cities asking him to be their police chief.
2013-07-08 09:53:27 AM  
3 votes:

The Muthaship: IdBeCrazyIf: ChaosStar: So you don't think he was defending himself?

He brazenly put himself in that situation which lead to the death of a person.through culpable negligence

Manslaughter

I can understand how someone would think he's guilty of manslaughter based on what they believe happened.  But, there's no evidence to support that conclusion.


The appeal to emotion on this is so overwhelming that no amount of evidence would ever get through to people. A video could surface of TM jumping GZ from behind while screaming "die, whitey!" and people would still be calling for GM to be convicted of murder.
2013-07-08 08:31:48 AM  
3 votes:
doglover:
It's what's called a tragedy. Or a tradegy if you're dyslexic.

Or if you can't read cursvie.
2013-07-08 05:44:40 PM  
2 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: The judge needs to die to with @georgezimmerman & the defense team- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07) July 8, 2013
Well somebody on Team Trayvon is getting a visit from the FBI.


from her profile:  I'AM SUCH A AMAZING HAPPY PERSON... THE WORLD NEEDS A BEAUTIFUL SMILE LIKE MINE TO BRIGHTEN UP THE DAY
2013-07-08 04:31:51 PM  
2 votes:
If Zimmerman was unfit, you must acquit.
2013-07-08 01:31:53 PM  
2 votes:

Yes please: nekom: What DOES Hispanic truly mean anyway?

It means "Spanish in origin or style." It's one of the few ethnic descriptions that hasn't been PCified beyond comprehension, and is therefore somewhat accurate when used correctly.


It means, "After I finish a college degree, I am white until further notice."
2013-07-08 12:51:36 PM  
2 votes:

willfullyobscure: over/under on the post count, anyone? I'll take $5 on 1300-1500 derpsposts.

[i.imgur.com image 318x174]


I doubt it.
There seems to be much less activity here than last week.

After the prosecution kept calling all those defense witnesses I think people got confused.
2013-07-08 12:36:29 PM  
2 votes:
Deucednuisance

For Fark's sake. All these threads and there are still people who don't understand what an "affirmative defense" is?

And that self-defense is a (if not the) textbook example of one?

And presume to speak with authority, despite that ignorance?

Oh, right, this is Fark. Never mind. Carry on.


This post is so ironic it's wearing tight jeans and oversized vintage glasses.
2013-07-08 12:25:56 PM  
2 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: I am going to say the same thing today as I did months ago, when I first learned of this story.

If an adult black man carrying a pistol pursued some unarmed white (or other non-black) 17-year-old kid in a nice Florida neighborhood... and shot him dead... not one person here would be arguing his innocence. Not one.


You're projecting your racism onto us.  If the teen attacks, it's his fault he gets shot.  Stop making this about race, this is about law.
2013-07-08 11:20:44 AM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: He was stalking him.


George Zimmerman KNEW he had 1 minute and 45 seconds with which to locate and dispatch his prey.
FACT
2013-07-08 11:10:18 AM  
2 votes:
RaceBoatDriver


For all the acquitters, would Zimmerman make a good cop?

No, the only good cop is...

so of the two, treyvon would be the better cop.
2013-07-08 10:57:23 AM  
2 votes:
binaryapi.ap.org
Sums up how prosecutors feel about most of their witnesses
2013-07-08 10:53:36 AM  
2 votes:
2013-07-08 10:52:41 AM  
2 votes:
Remember:

Trayvon Martin:
nazirahantigua.typepad.com

George Zimmerman:
img1.etsystatic.com
2013-07-08 10:47:14 AM  
2 votes:

nekom: So Zimmerman was a real human being, with good friends.  Not in fact a raging lunatic who can't get out a sentence without half a dozen racial slurs.  Why so many character witnesses when the technical aspects of this case so heavily favor the defense?


I don't know man. This witness is really white. I'm starting to smell a conspiracy.
2013-07-08 10:31:04 AM  
2 votes:
Smackledorfer

Depending on the situation, so is the angry guy stalking you at night, being racist, and physically assaulting you.

...but enough about Martin.

/ba-dum-chhh
2013-07-08 09:43:13 AM  
2 votes:

The Muthaship: I listened to the testimony on satellite radio as I drove to Chicago Friday.  Jesus, Dr, Bao is a moron!


That may be your opinion now, but you can change it in an hour. Or a week. Or a year.
2013-07-08 08:08:22 AM  
2 votes:

nekom: LasersHurt: "Will the jury likely acquit because he was the only survivor of stupid shiat?"

That's probably what's going to happen in a nutshell.  UNLESS the jury lets emotions override the letter of the law.


Neither way is good, if you ask me. And you didn't. But I told you anyway.
2013-07-08 07:21:55 AM  
2 votes:
Imbibe!
2013-07-09 01:19:05 PM  
1 votes:

stellarossa: Popcorn Johnny: The judge didn't grant the defense motion to throw out the case, so Zimmerman must be guilty. That's what Team Trayvon has been rolling with on Facebook and other sites. Never mind the fact that judges never grant a motion to dismiss after hearing half the case.

Plus judge wants the jury to take the heat from the AA community for acquittal. She doesn't want them turning up at her house demanding answers.


They would probably burn her house to ground since they are threatening to kill people if a not guilty verdict is delivered.  I know I'm taking shelter for a few days after the trial in case some nut case racist black person decides I'm the white boy they want to murder.
2013-07-09 04:46:09 AM  
1 votes:
tenpoundsofcheese:
don't forget the big THREE

George Zimmerman.
He went against the WHITE police in an incident in which a BLACK HOMELESS person was beaten.

Oh, and those same people testimony supported George ZImmerman's story.


And yet we still haven't heard this story in the news.  Fair and balanced.
2013-07-08 09:48:33 PM  
1 votes:
kendelrio:
Favorite Asian food. Mine is mei goreng Indonesian style.

That's a tough one.  I really can't say anything bad about curry, but on the other hand, smoked salmon with wasabi is pretty awesome too.  It's a shame you can't get good Indian food here in podunk nowhere, and the only sushi out there is the habachi grill.  At least there's an Asian supermarket down in Morgantown, less than an hour drive with the new expressway.

Also, to keep on topic, I'm willing to switch my opinion and argue for Zimmerman's guilt for some proper Indian food.
2013-07-08 08:47:00 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Somebody needs to assassinate @georgezimmerman & his defense team 🔫🔪💣🔨⛽- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07)


Looking at some of her earlier tweets, she posted a pic that implies she's single.  Call me shocked.  She seems so reasonable... so low-maintenance.
2013-07-08 08:46:57 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Mi-5:

Now, if the defense gets toxicology report in, the prosecution will only have to bring in an expert to show the effects of THC on the human body and effect on behavior.  If and when that expert says that the likely effects are "euphoria", "laughter", etc., no matter how quick or adept the defense is at trying to suppress that testimony, you can't "unring" a bell, and that will stick with the jury throughout the duration.

Bringing up the link to pot and paranoia is all the defense needs to do.



Just because you're not paranoid don't mean the CreepyAssCrackers are not watching you.
2013-07-08 08:39:16 PM  
1 votes:

phygz: Yep

[i2.cdn.turner.com image 780x583]


You know the color of that piece of plastic reminds me a lot of the stuff we used in relation to wrapping up, bagging and tagging radiological stuff back in my navy days. That watermelon ice tea must be some pretty toxic stuff to be getting that type of treatment.

Example:
www.oseh.umich.edu
/as hot as the radioactive stuff it contains
2013-07-08 07:45:47 PM  
1 votes:
Cletus C.:
It's why you need to be careful walking in cities. You never know when pot smokers are going to throw themselves off buildings because they think they can fly.

I used to get all jazzed up about the great insights and ideas marijuana brought out in me. I finally accepted that most of them were stupid and sucked. But still great in the moment.


The tell tale sign that they're about to jump out a window is playing the piano ridiculously fast.  Then you know it's imminent.

And I get that sentiment for sure!  I used to think I just played the most farking EPIC awesome guitar track in the history of mankind.  Then I played the recording the morning after, and good LAWD it sucked.
2013-07-08 07:41:38 PM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: ThrowedOff: Popcorn Johnny: Somebody needs to assassinate @georgezimmerman & his defense team 🔫🔪💣🔨⛽- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07) July 8, 2013


LOL

I just bookmarked her Twitter account to refer to later  to see her Tweet about the upcoming FBI visit.

A fun thing to do is just retweet it, and add "cc: @FBI".


She made one threatening the judge afterwards. If that kid can go to jail for months for a sarcastic Facebook post then this woman needs the chair.
2013-07-08 07:20:34 PM  
1 votes:

ThrowedOff: Popcorn Johnny: Somebody needs to assassinate @georgezimmerman & his defense team 🔫🔪💣🔨⛽- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07) July 8, 2013


LOL

I just bookmarked her Twitter account to refer to later  to see her Tweet about the upcoming FBI visit.


A fun thing to do is just retweet it, and add "cc: @FBI".
2013-07-08 06:33:12 PM  
1 votes:

TheWhoppah: So a weak, fat out of shape wimp decides to follow a suspicious guy at night that appears to be high on drugs... and he knows the cops are coming but he gets out of the vehicle anyway to get a closer look, at night... a closer look at the asshole on drugs that is always getting away with it.  Is this the Chewbaca defense?


If you'd bother to follow the trial, it's come out that Zimmerman was only outside of his vehicle to find a physical address. The cops needed an address. Now, that's only according to Zimmerman but as he did a video walk-through, his location within the complex and the visible lack of addresses on the backs of the apartment buildings make his story plausible. But it's still good to see Sharpton shills still out in full force. How much is he paying you, if I might ask?
2013-07-08 06:31:35 PM  
1 votes:

Mi-5: Popcorn Johnny: Which goes even further to suggest that Zimmerman had no interest in confronting Martin and only left his vehicle so he could see where Martin ran off to.

But that goes against him in light of the fact that he called the police, they were on their way, and he could have given description, direction, and last sighting to the police.  Women on that panel will not think they would follow TM if they were in the same situation,  so why would GZ do that?


That will be a devastating track for the prosecution when they bring him up on charges of getting out of your car in the first degree and felonious ambulation.
2013-07-08 06:14:06 PM  
1 votes:

Mi-5: Popcorn Johnny: Which goes even further to suggest that Zimmerman had no interest in confronting Martin and only left his vehicle so he could see where Martin ran off to.

But that goes against him in light of the fact that he called the police, they were on their way, and he could have given description, direction, and last sighting to the police.  Women on that panel will not think they would follow TM if they were in the same situation,  so why would GZ do that?


you ability to read minds is amazing.
2013-07-08 06:12:35 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: What description did Zimmerman have to give that would have led the police to Martin? All he knew is it was some black lid in a hoodie.


Freudian slip. We'll allow it....
2013-07-08 06:04:44 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Somebody needs to assassinate @georgezimmerman & his defense team 🔫🔪💣🔨⛽- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07) July 8, 2013


LOL


I just bookmarked her Twitter account to refer to later  to see her Tweet about the upcoming FBI visit.
2013-07-08 05:42:44 PM  
1 votes:

The judge needs to die to with @georgezimmerman & the defense team

- JPRETTYVON (@LOVERGRL07) July 8, 2013

Well somebody on Team Trayvon is getting a visit from the FBI.
2013-07-08 05:33:13 PM  
1 votes:
washington-babylon:
Same here- Grandfather on my Mother's side is Howe (English), Grandmother is Henderson (Scottish) and some Irish slave family that we cannot trace very far back. Dad's side is Cherokee and Goodwin (Saxon English), tracing direct lineage from Harold Godwinson.

We should start a mutt power movement!  I've got the English side traced out (Horner) all the way back to royalty, not that that's impressive, pretty much anyone with English ancestry can make that claim, and the further back you go, it gets a little tenuous.  Actually the nursery rhyme "Little Jack Horner" was about an actual person, an ancestor of mine.  I forget what it's a metaphor for, some kinda crooked land deal with a king or something.  The Irish side (Rice) founded a town near here.  The German side is mostly Baumgardner (like 20 different ways to spell it), I forget where the French came from but it's French Canadian.

We are a new race, we will prevail.
2013-07-08 05:27:41 PM  
1 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: Testiclaw: Haven't stepped foot in these threads until today, and shook my head upon reading the comments asking where the exertion comes from if you're on the ground trying to stop blows aimed at your face.

If you say/ask something like this, regardless of what "high school fights" you claim to have experienced, you know nothing.

Zilch, nada, zippo.

I don't have any side in the TM/GZ case, but have, ahem, experience in the combative arts.

/BJJ
//Combat JJ
///Judo
////No-Gi submission grappling
//Been beat up by MMA dudes as a spar target
//I can't strike to save my life, so I choke

All I see here are a bunch of Bs and Js, grappling and submissions. So I imagined that you had a black belt in gimping.


I don't have a Black Belt in anything, so I would take that if I could.
2013-07-08 05:23:08 PM  
1 votes:

Testiclaw: Haven't stepped foot in these threads until today, and shook my head upon reading the comments asking where the exertion comes from if you're on the ground trying to stop blows aimed at your face.

If you say/ask something like this, regardless of what "high school fights" you claim to have experienced, you know nothing.

Zilch, nada, zippo.

I don't have any side in the TM/GZ case, but have, ahem, experience in the combative arts.

/BJJ
//Combat JJ
///Judo
////No-Gi submission grappling
//Been beat up by MMA dudes as a spar target
//I can't strike to save my life, so I choke


All I see here are a bunch of Bs and Js, grappling and submissions. So I imagined that you had a black belt in gimping.
2013-07-08 05:12:46 PM  
1 votes:
If Trayvon was high as shiat, you must acquit!!!!!
2013-07-08 05:02:39 PM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Cletus C.: If there's one thing we know about marijuana, it's that it makes you violently aggressive.  So yes, very important evidence.

It absolutely does not rule it out.


Good lord. If anything would send these threads from "Maximum Trolling" to "Plaid" it would be a "Martin was hopped up on goofballs" defense.
2013-07-08 04:57:57 PM  
1 votes:

Abuse Liability: was not intoxicated at the time of the incident


Dr. Bao said he was.  After he said he wasn't.  Then he said it had no effect, or some effect.  Or somewhere in between.  This is opinion.  No fact.
2013-07-08 04:37:30 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Judge, we ask you please to strike EVERYTHING the defense has said off the record, please.


What is funny, is if they DID, Z would still walk.
2013-07-08 04:36:19 PM  
1 votes:

FC Exile: My personal technique involves closing fast and then repeatedly lifting and slamming the opponent into the ground as violently as possible. But that's just me.


Bruce Banner, is that you?
2013-07-08 04:34:44 PM  
1 votes:
Judge, we ask you please to strike EVERYTHING the defense has said off the record, please.
2013-07-08 04:33:25 PM  
1 votes:

FC Exile: Fights I've been in thread.


My record makes Abuse Liability look like Rocky Marciano.
2013-07-08 04:31:28 PM  
1 votes:
Fights I've been in thread.
2013-07-08 04:29:25 PM  
1 votes:

washington-babylon: nekom: This text is now purple:
You're going to have to help out with that slavery-as-origin-of-racism angle. The Irish suffered under German racism, but I don't see much slavery having gone on to cause it.

Oh sure racism has existed pretty much since human civilization has.  I just think that slavery was a key factor in it in the case of the USA.  There was a time when it was common for a LOT of people to actually believe that they were less than human, inferior and not fit to live amongst us, even some who argued that slavery was to their benefit.  That's why even after slavery officially ended, blacks were viewed as inferior and treated as such for many many generations.  It takes a LONG time to heal those kind of wounds.

I find it humorous that so many people think that Slavery=Black People in fields. There was a large amount of whites enslaved in the U.S. and other places around the world at the same time. A large portion of these were Irish (in fact, a certain book called "Kidnapped" by R.L. Stevenson was written with this as a main plot point). A great many of these people were stolen children, either orphans or children of families who were of the wrong religious or political faction.  Now, I will agree that the majority that were enslaved were Black (or Native American) especially toward the 1860's, I just wish to point out that there were victims from MANY races. This fact is not taught in grade schools today, and has been all but forgotten by most people in the U.S. The last places that it is seriously discussed are obscure history journals and the occasional rare college history lecture.


s3.amazonaws.com

Only Blacks were slaves!!!!!
2013-07-08 04:29:22 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Crap!  Now I'm in an airport and no feeds are working.   Everyone here must be downloading porn.


Checking up on the latest plane crashes.
Updating their wills.
2013-07-08 04:22:54 PM  
1 votes:
Crap!  Now I'm in an airport and no feeds are working.   Everyone here must be downloading porn.
2013-07-08 04:12:45 PM  
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2013-07-08 04:08:03 PM  
1 votes:
media.screened.com

Tracy Martin is the Duke of New York...FACT!
2013-07-08 04:02:13 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob: You forgot the wannabe cop part. Zimmerman is the police equivalent of an arsonist who sets fires because he wants to be a firefighter.
The difference is we don't tolerate that shiat and the cops embrace it.


Someone should bring you up on charges! You are really killing it!

sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
2013-07-08 04:00:43 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: I guess you're just celebrating the fact that this happened in Florida and no Jews were involved?


Better than celebrating this because a black person was involved like some try-hard race baiting trolls around here, such as yourself.  Put the cards away, race isn't an issue here.  Or are you just attempting to piss off a mod enough to delete your posts, so you can cry about that too, even ask to be banned and then talk about running off to youtube as if it's a threat and not something most of us would welcome, your complete absence.

Was nice there, for a couple days we didn't have you in these threads.
2013-07-08 03:57:55 PM  
1 votes:

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


i.imgur.com
2013-07-08 03:57:30 PM  
1 votes:

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


0-media-cdn.foolz.us
2013-07-08 03:50:50 PM  
1 votes:

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


Well in his defense TM was only 5 and could probably kick his ass.
2013-07-08 03:49:05 PM  
1 votes:

TheWhoppah: If he can't fight, why would he confront a stranger in the dark unless he intended to use the firearm?


Look at all these bites.

I think you just leveled up to Master Troll.
2013-07-08 03:40:04 PM  
1 votes:
If he can't fight, why would he confront a stranger in the dark unless he intended to use the firearm?
2013-07-08 03:35:14 PM  
1 votes:
just to be clear, is this what an MMA expert may look like? I mean, he DID take a self-defense class, right?

images.wikia.com

/breakthewristwalkaway
2013-07-08 03:29:49 PM  
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Raiden333: I have to admit, before the trial I was 100% on Team <b>Treyvon</b>, but every day of this sways me more and more to Not Guilty. Doesn't help that the prosecution is godawful at this.

The fact that you spelled his name wrong makes me totally believe that you were on his "team".


So did rachel jeantel
2013-07-08 03:06:46 PM  
1 votes:

Elegy: Subtle media bias 101:

MSNBC keeps doing these "reenactments" and they keep putting the black guy on the bottom.

[i.imgur.com image 300x197]


Oh man, that brazzers tag at the bottom. I spit coffee all over my work laptop because of that.
2013-07-08 02:56:44 PM  
1 votes:
"He's still learning how to punch"
2013-07-08 02:55:28 PM  
1 votes:
Yes! Back at my desk and can watch the trial.

Thanks for the updates everyone that provided them.

MMA instructor is putting a nail in the coffin of Zimmerman being a fighter. "Scale of 1 to 10 how good was Mr Zimmerman when he came to you?" "Like 0.5"
2013-07-08 02:53:49 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Well the gym teacher is destroying the idea that Zimmerman was a fighter, knew how to fight, or was in shape.


He also looks like a blend of Michael Douglas and Anthony Weener
2013-07-08 02:49:09 PM  
1 votes:
Remember when us lynch mobbers surrounded OJ Simpson and the other malefactors in that Neverendum on race relations? Good times!
2013-07-08 02:47:25 PM  
1 votes:

Deucednuisance: Ace Rimmer: Umm... affirmative defense means you are saying "Yes, I did it, but here's why it isn't a crime"

How is that functionally any different than what I said?

"Here's why is isn't a crime"... "because this is what actually happened".

If you're you're going to claim the former, you kinda have to do the latter.

And the claim itself is insufficient:

"Yes, I shot that man, but it wasn't a crime because a giant rabid gorilla was charging at me, so I fired at it, but it leaped into the clouds, sprouted leathery wings and flew away, so my shot went awry" would demand some sort of proof, would it not?


I'm stunned by your insistence on doubling down on your stupidity. Even on Fark, you're a rare bird.

I gave you a legal citation. It's called Montijo. It's not only recent and on point, it's the appellate district for Seminole County.

You responded with Wikipedia and Angela Corey's press conference.

Even after all of these threads, where jackass after jackass boldly pronounces legalisms that are utterly, exactly wrong, you are actually the first one who has decided to take your ignorance to the next level. You've gone from being wrong to aggressively, actively wrong.

A claim of self-defense must be disproven by the prosecution, beyond reasonable doubt.

I can't make you go read Montijo. I can only hope to convince you that you are seriously uninformed if you don't.

Remain uninformed if you like. It's your loss.
2013-07-08 02:45:01 PM  
1 votes:
So, did that "mounting" demonstration go better than the "if the gloves do not fit, you must acquit"?

If you believe in the mount, the shooting did not count!
2013-07-08 02:42:52 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder if on cross, DLR will ask to be mounted too?
2013-07-08 02:30:25 PM  
1 votes:

creepy ass-cracka: Basically, DLR is using any opportunity he gets to talk about how tragic the death of child is, doesn't matter who he's questioning. Nothing he's saying on cross hurts what the defense has tried to establish.


David Lee Roth? Too easy...

(This is home) See, a gun is real easy
(This is Mean Street) in this desperate part of town
(This is home) Turns you from hunted into hunter (Yeah)
(This is Mean Street) You go an' hunt somebody down
Wait a minute, ah (This is home) Somebody said "Fair warning", Lord
(This is Mean Street) Lord, strike that poor boy down!

Mean Streets- Van Halen
2013-07-08 02:05:59 PM  
1 votes:
I'm watching HLN and they just had a shot of Tracie Martin and there's a woman directly behind him with blonde hair that's kinda mussed up whose face is completely blocked by Martins and I did a double take because for a second there it looked like he was wearing a blonde wig.
2013-07-08 02:00:43 PM  
1 votes:
Jaffa calling

The original image from in trial:
i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
2013-07-08 01:39:00 PM  
1 votes:

siva: because it is readily apparent that Trayvon Martin wouldn't have died if Zimmerman had acted with a small bit of restraint and common decency.


He should totally have let Trayvon beat him to death, that would have been the decent thing to do.
2013-07-08 01:38:44 PM  
1 votes:
What is the difference between "Twitters" and "Tweets"? Is that just something on the long list of things this judge doesn't know?
2013-07-08 01:31:45 PM  
1 votes:

Loadmaster: Limeyluv: Just get ready for the riots in case they find him not guilty.

I predict race riots no matter what the verdict is.


I have decreed that there shall be no race riots, and so shall it be.....
2013-07-08 01:27:50 PM  
1 votes:

bigpete53: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: KellyX: bigpete53: KellyX: You still really consider Florida to be the "deep south"... There's a reason it's purple

Everything north of Orlando is pretty deep South. Especially when you get up to the point where you're even with the panhandle.

Somehow I don't consider Daytona Beach as "deep south" nor Jacksonville for that matter... (Palm Coast, St. Augustine, or Sanford...) I don't know the panhandle region as well, but somehow I don't think it's rapid racism like you'd find in SC or AL areas...

Florida isn't the deep south. There are some areas, like Live Oak, that are indistinguishable from rural Georgia, but no one lives in those areas. Coastal Florida (where the people live) is very cosmopolitan. Anyone suggesting that 2013 Florida is "deep south" is either an idiot, or lying for political reasons.

Drive I-10 through northern Florida and tell me it isn't deep South. Just because the large metro areas aren't deep South doesn't mean the rural areas aren't. I live in NOLA, and I have no problem saying that areas just 30 minutes outside the city limits are still Deep South. Heck, 90% of those swamp shows are shot within 100 miles of NOLA.


Yeah, the areas of Florida that no one lives in are very Deep South. Brilliant point.
2013-07-08 01:08:58 PM  
1 votes:

stellarossa: LasersHurt: stellarossa: Popcorn Johnny: The judge didn't grant the defense motion to throw out the case, so Zimmerman must be guilty. That's what Team Trayvon has been rolling with on Facebook and other sites. Never mind the fact that judges never grant a motion to dismiss after hearing half the case.

Plus judge wants the jury to take the heat from the AA community for acquittal. She doesn't want them turning up at her house demanding answers.

So we're both surprised that the Prosecution/Martin camp still maintains their side of the argument? Because we're scared of black people?

The hell is wrong with you people?

Go ask her that. She doesn't want to the the one to make the call and therefore be the focal point for AA rage that, inevitabley, will come from an acquittal for Zimm.


I thought one of the 12 Steps had to do with making amends.
2013-07-08 12:56:24 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Mid_mo_mad_man: Martin is the one to blame for his death.

While I don't feel any laws were broken and Martin earned his death, it's still a loss when a 17 year old kid is so farked up they need to be put down.

If society had a place for violent young thugs to get out of that life one step at a time, instead of just kicked out of regular people school, we might have caught him and people like him before shiat like this goes down. If Martin hadn't been suspended from school it would have been better for Zimmerman, better for Martin, better for everyone.

When citizens kill each other instead of helping expand prosperity, it's always a tragedy.


I'm sorry, your well-reasoned comment doesn't belong on this forum. I believe you have accidentally clicked on 'Fark.com' instead of the site you meant.
2013-07-08 12:47:18 PM  
1 votes:
willfullyobscure

Because Murica in general and the deep south in particular has a long, ugly history of white men murdering black boys on account of their skin color and then getting away with it thanks to the support of the local authorities and courts?

But a white man didn't murder a black boy, and this didn't take place in the Deep South. So...huh?
2013-07-08 12:39:58 PM  
1 votes:
There should be no expectation that a 28 year old boy will exercise better judgement than a 17 year old hardened thug.
2013-07-08 12:27:48 PM  
1 votes:

ELKAY: Mr_Fabulous: I am going to say the same thing today as I did months ago, when I first learned of this story.

If an adult black man carrying a pistol pursued some unarmed white (or other non-black) 17-year-old kid in a nice Florida neighborhood... and shot him dead... not one person here would be arguing his innocence. Not one.

This


Unlike you two, there are a lot of adults who don't make their decisions based on race but rather facts.
2013-07-08 12:27:17 PM  
1 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: If an adult black man carrying a pistol pursued some unarmed white (or other non-black) 17-year-old kid in a nice Florida neighborhood... and shot him dead... not one person here would be arguing his innocence. Not one.


Wrong. If hypothetical "white kid" had beaten the black guy into the concrete, and was shot in self-defense, you'd find pretty much the same people here defending him for it.

The people projecting racism into this case are the ones with the strongest dose of it.
2013-07-08 12:27:04 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: The defense is slamming the fark out of the prosecution. This isn't even fair.


We need a Shorp of the defense as the globe trotters, and the prosecution as the Generals.
2013-07-08 12:26:18 PM  
1 votes:

Mr_Fabulous: I am going to say the same thing today as I did months ago, when I first learned of this story.

If an adult black man carrying a pistol pursued some unarmed white (or other non-black) 17-year-old kid in a nice Florida neighborhood... and shot him dead... not one person here would be arguing his innocence. Not one.


Including you?

You are obviously speaking for yourself.  That is your issue, don't project it on everyone else.
2013-07-08 12:16:09 PM  
1 votes:
Sadly, I still think there is a chance for George to be convicted of something. The case so far, does not even come close to warranting being convicted of so much as jaywalking. Manslaughter is not even in the realm of possibility according to the evidence.

Hope he is cleared of all, and can go full out on offense with massive lawsuits against a whole bunch of people and companies. Nutrisystem would help too.
2013-07-08 12:06:48 PM  
1 votes:
Seriously, is the state prosecutor retarded?


'If you had never met George Zimmerman before and never heard his voice before, could you identify it today if I made you listen to it'


WELL NO SHIAT SHERLOCK: the sequel.
2013-07-08 12:04:42 PM  
1 votes:
Bunch of creepy ass crackers in this thread. Plus, racism!
2013-07-08 12:03:37 PM  
1 votes:

gregscott: dittybopper: The Muthaship: I listened to the testimony on satellite radio as I drove to Chicago Friday.  Jesus, Dr, Bao is a moron!

Great Scott!

What??!!


You shut your whore mouth you farkin' imposter!
2013-07-08 12:03:02 PM  
1 votes:

ELKAY: heili skrimsli: ChaosStar: ELKAY: He is a liar. He commited perjury and parts of his story of what happened that night have been proven wrong

Citation needed

Pretty hard to commit perjury when you've never actually been under oath.

He lied in court about his financial situation when determining his bond.


Yep..totally guilty of murder now!

You solved the case Sherlock!
2013-07-08 11:58:42 AM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: You haven't been paying attention to the actual evidence and testimony, have you?


Weighing facts and being objective?

Where the fark do you think you are, some place teeming with reasonable adults?
2013-07-08 11:57:34 AM  
1 votes:

The Singing Bush: And she was totally a reliable witness. Speaker of the gospel, I tell ya.


Are you retarded, sir?
2013-07-08 11:56:40 AM  
1 votes:
LasersHurt:

There's also no evidence to support that he's an innocent man who was attacked and had to defend himself. It's just that he's the only one alive to tell his side.

Presumed innocent. But you didn't just forget that, you forgot the lacerations on the back of his head, the smashed in face, and the eyewitness testimony that "the guy in the red sweater" was getting pummeled, and the "guy doing the pummeling" was the one motionless on the ground after the altercation.

But yeah, other than those details, there's no evidence... Your response does make me wonder however, just what are YOU guilty of... I know you're guilty of something - using evidence, prove to me you did NOT rape a transexual truck stop hooker in 1994...
2013-07-08 11:53:05 AM  
1 votes:

ELKAY: Would you feels safe if George Zimmerman lived in your neighborhood?


I would rather have him as my neighbor than some of my actual neighbors.
2013-07-08 11:48:59 AM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Hobodeluxe: Nah George will get rich

How much money would he have to make from this in order for you to want to trade places with him?

And where will this money come from?


NBC most likely
2013-07-08 11:48:08 AM  
1 votes:
Geez, this guy's gonna have a flashback on the stand.
2013-07-08 11:43:34 AM  
1 votes:

jaybeezey: ELKAY: I really hope GZ doesn't get off. The last thing we need in this country is a bunch of a$$hole vigilante's thinking they now have a hunting license for black teenagers.

He clearly did not act as a reasonable or responsible person that night and deserves a manslaughter charge.

Right? Because it's such a prevalent attitude now. I'd hate for it to get bolstered.

Most everyone i know is just chomping at the bit to have his/her life turned inside out on national TV so they can smoke some kid.

Don't live in fear and hate and everything will be OK.


Would you feels safe if George Zimmerman lived in your neighborhood?

Would you feel safe if a George Zimmerman wannabe lived in your neighborhood?

I wouldn't. I think this man with past assault charges and domestic violence charges who has now killed a teenager under questionable circumstances should not be allowed to own a fire arm.

He clearly acted with reckless disregard for human life, he is a proven liar, his story from that night does not add up, and while there is not enough evidence for murder I think manslaughter is a slam dunk. I hope the jury has that option.
2013-07-08 11:42:29 AM  
1 votes:

limeyfellow: What I yet to see though is why stand your ground laws don't apply to Trayvon Martin.



uhhhh, because Trayvon isn't on trial?

He is also dead.
2013-07-08 11:40:00 AM  
1 votes:
IF simmerman actually takes the stand I call "legal malpractice" by his attorneys. I think the guy is guilty as hell and should spend 20 years in jail, but professionally my analysis is that the Defense has "reasonable doubt" in the bag right now, and putting Zimm on is a huge mistake. It will allow all sorts of currently excluded testimony in, and the only thing it can do is hurt his case.
2013-07-08 11:35:32 AM  
1 votes:
I certainly hope this jury doesn't find Zimmerman guilty, as it might state a new precedent that gun owners in America should be careful and follow the letter of the law.
2013-07-08 11:34:01 AM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Actually as far as we know, Zimmerman didn't use racial epithets.


"These" "They" C'mon, we all know what he meant! ;)
2013-07-08 11:33:31 AM  
1 votes:
Why is everyone talking about buying clothes for George Zimmerman? Doesn't he get free clothes from his Men's Wearhouse stores?
2013-07-08 11:26:13 AM  
1 votes:

WillofJ2: Much like those bank robbing movies where they test response time that is why he called 60 times in the past for this one special day when everything was right and he could finally get one of those farking A$$hole punks that always get away, I see it now


"The prosecution would like to call WillofJ2 to the stand!"
2013-07-08 11:22:48 AM  
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Cletus C.: He was stalking him.

George Zimmerman KNEW he had 1 minute and 45 seconds with which to locate and dispatch his prey.
FACT


Much like those bank robbing movies where they test response time that is why he called 60 times in the past for this one special day when everything was right and he could finally get one of those farking A$$hole punks that always get away, I see it now

(sarcasm)
2013-07-08 11:17:03 AM  
1 votes:

heili skrimsli: WillofJ2: This line of questioning is as dead horse sand BDLR is beating it over and over again

He seems to like to repeat 'assholes' and 'farking punks' as much as he can in front of every female witnesses the defense puts on the stand.


George Carlan would be proud
2013-07-08 11:16:12 AM  
1 votes:

creepy ass-cracka: Hi guys, I'm just tuning in now... Is this woman another voice recognition expert or something?


White female supporter of the patriarchy.
2013-07-08 11:15:09 AM  
1 votes:

Yes please: genepool lifeboat: jehovahs witness protection: And the maximum sentence for being innocent is?

Probably a lifetime of harassment.

Yeah, but probably a short lifetime.  If you really want to see race riots, just wait until they convict whoever kills him.


White people haven't rioted since the 20's.
2013-07-08 11:14:06 AM  
1 votes:
The judge finally overruled a defense objection, thank god she was looking biased
2013-07-08 11:13:00 AM  
1 votes:

RaceBoatDriver: For all the acquitters, would Zimmerman make a good cop?


No, because he didn't shoot Trayvon 52 times the moment Trayvon pretended to have a gun in his waistband.
2013-07-08 11:06:32 AM  
1 votes:

Facetious_Speciest: The Muthaship

We're currently going through people who know Zimmerman testifying it's him yelling for help on the 911 calls.


Sure sounds like him.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
2013-07-08 11:06:15 AM  
1 votes:

RaceBoatDriver: For all the acquitters, would Zimmerman make a good cop?


Well, he shot and killed with one shot.  LAPD can't even do that with 50+ shots.

Also, for those needing a fresher on the law in Florida, and one reporter's opinion.

Link
2013-07-08 11:05:36 AM  
1 votes:

RaceBoatDriver: For all the acquitters, would Zimmerman make a good cop?


No such thing.
2013-07-08 11:04:22 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: nekom: Mr. Eugenides:
Remember, the prosecution showed that Martin initiated the physical confrontation.

Well, it's more that they couldn't prove that Zimmerman did.  Martin PROBABLY did, we'll never know for sure, but there's certainly copious amounts of reasonable doubt, which means advantage: defense.

Nope, Martin's girlfriend testified that Martin turned back to confront Zimmerman.  There has been zero evidence presented to suggest that Zimmerman initiated the physical approach.


If you're trying to make a point and start with this, just stop and consider your other options.
2013-07-08 10:46:29 AM  
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: Because we are getting in legalese territory which always requires things being added. And I did answer the question, no he was not defending himself to the physical level the event elevated to.


It is a little known fact that a women being raped has to try to rape the man raping her back and has to wait for the man raping her to escalate the level of violence by hitting her before she can hit him.
2013-07-08 10:29:33 AM  
1 votes:

LasersHurt: nekom: LasersHurt: "Will the jury likely acquit because he was the only survivor of stupid shiat?"

That's probably what's going to happen in a nutshell.  UNLESS the jury lets emotions override the letter of the law.

Neither way is good, if you ask me. And you didn't. But I told you anyway.


Move to strike! Malicious accusery.
2013-07-08 10:22:08 AM  
1 votes:
"Well, Mr. Whipple, if one shot does the job, we don't usually shoot 50 times.  We aren't the LAPD."
2013-07-08 10:22:04 AM  
1 votes:
Work obligations will keep me out of the thread for most of the morning and early afternoon.

I will, however, pop in from time to time with amusing material.

A reading of the script for "Murderous Racism: The George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin Story"

An amusing gif
2013-07-08 10:16:56 AM  
1 votes:
Thread is suffering some shrinkage already....
2013-07-08 10:12:38 AM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Why did this go from green to red? Farkers demand their GZ vs TM thread!!!!!


These threads are great.

Go to one thread for your daily gun control, death penalty, racism, anti cops  comments all in one

One thread to rule them all.

the only think missing is abortion.
2013-07-08 09:59:12 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: dittybopper: Popcorn Johnny: Why did this go from green to red? Farkers demand their GZ vs TM thread!!!!!

This.

Not saying you guys are scary, but you guys are scary.  Fark is more than just a Zimmerman trial clearinghouse .  For now, we have the trial threads though.  So, in order to keep them, please fasten your seatbelts, use etiquette suitable for a dinner party, and try not to upset the apple cart too much.

Got it?  Good.

Now, what have I missed in the trial this morning?  And who has the best feed?


Hey, if you look at the breasts of this thread, you'll see I'm the one trying to inject a bit of class.
2013-07-08 09:58:53 AM  
1 votes:

Mid_mo_mad_man: The only thing tragic is the railroading of Zimmerman. Martin is the one to blame for his death. His actions led to his own death.


yeah walking home from the store talking to a girl is illegal. he didn't have a right to defend himself from a stalker in the dark who never identified himself.
a man who's word we're supposed to take as gospel. a known liar with a violent past that should have made him ineligible to license a firearm. a hot head who lost his job as a bouncer because he had anger management and is a recovering alcoholic. who's story sounds like a Dirty Harry movie with the strained dialogue. Who was negligent in his watch captain's training and duties.
2013-07-08 09:58:43 AM  
1 votes:

QueenMamaBee: stellarossa: Popcorn Johnny: The judge didn't grant the defense motion to throw out the case, so Zimmerman must be guilty. That's what Team Trayvon has been rolling with on Facebook and other sites. Never mind the fact that judges never grant a motion to dismiss after hearing half the case.

Plus judge wants the jury to take the heat from the AA community for acquittal. She doesn't want them turning up at her house demanding answers.

I can see where my mind is headed.... I took that as Alcoholics Anonymous.

/not caffinated enough this morning


Well, we *did* start drinking (or, rather, imbibing) in the boobies...
2013-07-08 09:57:36 AM  
1 votes:
How come no questions about the content of his CHL class? In TX, they go over SYG in great detail. The instructor will also proudly tell you that you can kill a person for stealing your neighbor's TV. Yet we "value l
2013-07-08 09:55:17 AM  
1 votes:
stellarossa: ...acquittal for Zimm

NOT GUILTY!
th00.deviantart.net


2013-07-08 09:47:37 AM  
1 votes:

stellarossa: speculation after reading what the J4T crowd are saying.


If it's any consolation, I live in a largely black area. I'll let you know if things get out of hand. I doubt they will; most people seem more concerned with, you know, their jobs, and mowing their lawns and stuff.
2013-07-08 09:46:40 AM  
1 votes:

stellarossa: Popcorn Johnny: The judge didn't grant the defense motion to throw out the case, so Zimmerman must be guilty. That's what Team Trayvon has been rolling with on Facebook and other sites. Never mind the fact that judges never grant a motion to dismiss after hearing half the case.

Plus judge wants the jury to take the heat from the AA community for acquittal. She doesn't want them turning up at her house demanding answers.


I can see where my mind is headed.... I took that as Alcoholics Anonymous.

/not caffinated enough this morning
2013-07-08 09:43:46 AM  
1 votes:
oldfarthenry

Kinda looks like Michael Moore was right about the dangers of armed paranoid white 'merikuns.

The only armed white 'merikuns were the cops that showed up.
2013-07-08 09:00:28 AM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: I listened to the testimony on satellite radio as I drove to Chicago Friday.  Jesus, Dr, Bao is a moron!


Great Scott!
2013-07-08 07:45:04 AM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Imbibe!


Oh I like it, much classier.
 
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