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(WPTV)   Will the prosecution cry "Uncle" after GZ's uncle's testimony? Will the judge rule that the defense can't present a defense because it might cause the jury to decide "not guilty"? Will these Zimmerman trial threads ever end? Not today   (wptv.com) divider line 1158
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2013-07-08 03:49:50 PM

Tatsuma: DROxINxTHExWIND: The fact that you spelled his name wrong makes me totally believe that you were on his "team".

With as much evidence to disprove what he said, no wonder you think Zimmerman is guilty.


Meh. The guy is selling the idea that he was invested in the case. If he truly was, there were no shortage of media outlets where his name was spelled. I'm not sure how he missed all of them.

Just an observation, but you seem to be awfully giddy about your perception that the defense is winning the case. Normally, you at least act like a disinterested bystander, even when your words betray you. You're out in front of this one, though. I guess you're just celebrating the fact that this happened in Florida and no Jews were involved?
 
2013-07-08 03:50:50 PM

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


Well in his defense TM was only 5 and could probably kick his ass.
 
2013-07-08 03:51:33 PM

The Muthaship: the lord god: Only an idiot would burn their neighborhood over a court case not connected to themselves.

8 extra words.


IDK...if it was my kid and I honestly believed he was gunned down in cold blood and his killer walked. Maybe. But I do not think even Trey Treys father believed that.
 
2013-07-08 03:51:34 PM
@.@
 
2013-07-08 03:52:01 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-08 03:52:44 PM

Boojum2k: TheWhoppah: Facetious_Speciest: TheWhoppah

The MMA instructor just put the nail in GZ's coffin...
If GZ is so fat and bad at fighting, why would he confront a stranger on the sidewalk at night... unless he started the confrontation intending to use the weapon?

The only accounts of who confronted whom both agree Martin confronted Zimmerman.


Following someone in a vehicle and then getting out to follow them on foot is not something a helpless lame fat person would do unless perhaps they were emboldened by a weapon.

You plan on farking that chicken all the way to completion, aren't you?

Read the 911 transcript. Zimmerman had no intent to shoot anyone, he was reporting someone suspicious. Trayvon made it a physical confrontation.


No, he's right. Zimmerman wanted a confrontation, because that's what he was gunning for in all his other 'observe and reports' to the non-emergency police line.  It's also why he has killed so many kids.

/oh wait...

On a serious note, it's still kind of beyond me that people think someone (GZ) would want a confrontation where they would get to use their weapon, but the police ahead of time.  What would have happened if the police had been two minutes earlier under your particular scenario?  Saw him in the commission of a felony?
 
2013-07-08 03:52:51 PM
the lord god:
IDK...if it was my kid and I honestly believed he was gunned down in cold blood and his killer walked. Maybe. But I do not think even Trey Treys father believed that.

I wouldn't burn down my own town, but if I thought my child were murdered, I WOULD kill him.
/ITG
 
2013-07-08 03:52:52 PM

AngryDragon: TheWhoppah: If he can't fight, why would he confront a stranger in the dark unless he intended to use the firearm?

Look at all these bites.

I think you just leveled up to Master Troll.


... even after gave me a 0/10 ?!?
 
2013-07-08 03:52:58 PM

cretinbob: Magorn: redmid17: Elegy: Yes! Back at my desk and can watch the trial.

Thanks for the updates everyone that provided them.

MMA instructor is putting a nail in the coffin of Zimmerman being a fighter. "Scale of 1 to 10 how good was Mr Zimmerman when he came to you?" "Like 0.5"

"He's so bad I can't actually rate him on that scale."

But keep in mind that this is testimony from someone who thinks MMA bears any resemblance to actual fighting.   They might as well have called the Rex-Kwan-Do guy.    Bad slip by the prosecution letting this guy testify, I would have Voir Dire'd his status as an expert witness into oblivion.  Utterly laughable that anyone who teaches that crap that they call MMA would be considered an expert on street fighting of any kind.  Technique and training count for less than nothing in a real street fight, it's all about the desire to hurt the other person and a williness to put aside anything resembling a concept of fighting fair or "honor" to do it.  and I was taught that a long time ago  BY a martial arts instructor who held multiple black belts in Aikido, Tang-so-do, Hapkido, etc, but before that had grown up as the enforcer in street gang in one fo the rougher parts of SE DC

Not only that, this guy has a stake in his testimony. Free advertising.

That is ridiculous.  He is "advertising" that he took a person from a 0.5/10 to a 1/10 after a year of work.  WTF would use that as an advertising pitch.

If he said got George from a 0.5 to a 5, that would be advertising.


From the little bit I saw though, I don't think he's really helped the defense much.

Why do people say things like this?  "I didn't see much, but here is my opinion based on the small amount I saw"

 
2013-07-08 03:53:25 PM
cretinbob

Forget it. The helpless lame fat people who are busy defending Martin don't get it, and don't want to get it.

Lol.
 
2013-07-08 03:53:35 PM

nekom: cretinbob:
I was referring to the MMA instructor's testimony and questions directed by the defense.
Portraying Zimmerman as a pussy who can't defend himself without a weapon isn't very smart.
I did miss what happened earlier and haven't gone through the thread for the Fark slant yet.

On the flip side of that, his argument for self defense rests on the fact that he feared for his life.  They want the jury to believe that Martin would have had no problem gaining the upper hand and kicking this guy's ass.


I know that's what they are trying to say, but the way they said it...not so good.

And his buddy, Mr. ""I suggested that you keep one loaded in the chamber," Osterman ...Did they turn the a/c off for him during his testimony friday, because god damn if he wasn't sweating like a pig.
 
2013-07-08 03:53:43 PM

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


Yeah, no expereinced neighborhood watch person would get out of thier car in their own neoghborhood to keeps tabs on the location of someone acting suspicious when there has been a history of robberies in the exact area in question.
 
2013-07-08 03:54:04 PM
Tracy Martin on the stand. Welp.
 
2013-07-08 03:55:34 PM
Dude is really skating and trying to take back his denial that it was his son screaming on the tape.
 
2013-07-08 03:55:40 PM

cretinbob: TheWhoppah: Following someone in a vehicle and then getting out to follow them on foot is not something a helpless lame fat person would do unless perhaps they were emboldened by a weapon.

Forget it. The helpless lame fat people who are busy defending Martin don't get it, and don't want to get it.

Of course he wasn't fat at the time.

ANyway I just popped back in to mention the testimony of Mr. MMA talking about how physically exhausting a fight is. Then think about how Zimmerman wasn't out of breath. It takes like 20 minutes for your body to recover from strenuous activity if you aren't in constant tip-top shape. The cops arrived after...less than 2?


You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.  Hardly requires exertion.  Also, you point out that GZ wasn't fat at the time and you're correct, he was 185 (from police report) and Martin was weighed in at 158 (+/- the weight of about 1/5 of a heart).  Its interesting that everyone that talks about the huge difference in weight can't tell that 27 pounds isn't the same as a 40 pound difference.
 
2013-07-08 03:56:08 PM
TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


You forgot the wannabe cop part. Zimmerman is the police equivalent of an arsonist who sets fires because he wants to be a firefighter.
The difference is we don't tolerate that shiat and the cops embrace it.
 
2013-07-08 03:56:55 PM

nekom: the lord god:
IDK...if it was my kid and I honestly believed he was gunned down in cold blood and his killer walked. Maybe. But I do not think even Trey Treys father believed that.

I wouldn't burn down my own town, but if I thought my child were murdered, I WOULD kill him.
/ITG


As a parent I agree in principal. In reality I would use every legal means to ruin that persons life. Violence will never bring one person back to life.
 
2013-07-08 03:57:30 PM

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


0-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-07-08 03:57:46 PM

Tatsuma: Dude is really skating and trying to take back his denial that it was his son screaming on the tape.


Dammit.  I really wanted to see this guy up there too.
 
2013-07-08 03:57:55 PM

TheWhoppah: I'm sorry but a pussy wimp girly-man is not going to be getting out of his car to observe a suspicious person in the dark unless he is packing heat and are willing to use it.
If you can't see this then you are so far up GZ's ass that you only see confirmation bias.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-08 03:58:22 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Meh. The guy is selling the idea that he was invested in the case. If he truly was, there were no shortage of media outlets where his name was spelled. I'm not sure how he missed all of them.


Dude, many times I ended up writing Barak Obama instead of Barack Obama. That's because there's also a guy called Ehud Barak even though I know fully well who Obama is. I am not used to the spelling 'Barack' but I am used to Barak. Sometimes, when people are presented with alternate versions of names, or straight up names, that they are not used to, they sometimes will err when it comes to spelling them

DROxINxTHExWIND: Just an observation, but you seem to be awfully giddy about your perception that the defense is winning the case. Normally, you at least act like a disinterested bystander, even when your words betray you. You're out in front of this one, though. I guess you're just celebrating the fact that this happened in Florida and no Jews were involved?


I am happy that the defense is winning because all of the evidence out there points to Zimmerman killing him in self-defense, and I'm happy that it looks like he will be released rather than convicted due to a witch hunt.
 
2013-07-08 03:58:25 PM

Cletus C.: HAMMERTOE: Cletus C.: Zimmerman playing Paul Blart is, was and always will be the problem. Without that asshattery a person isn't dead and another on trial. Farking dumbass.

Haven't you ever seen an "uplifting" news report, or movie or story where the citizens of a rough neighborhood "take back" their streets from the thugs/ prostitutes/ gang-bangers/ hoods? At some point in every one of these offerings, there is an early climactic moment where a confrontation occurs. Usually multiple confrontations. Early in the story, the confrontation goes in favor of the antagonist(s) of the story. And, the "turning point" involves the confrontation going in favor of the people trying to "take back their streets." Well, this is no different. This country is built upon the foundational principle that we as citizens, bear the personal right (and responsibility) of seeing to the protection of our selves, our neighbors, and our neighborhoods.

What's really on trial here is the continued viability of using "Angry Black Man Syndrome" as a mitigating factor in anti-social behavior. Zimmerman observed Martin coming out of a neighbor's back yard, dressed in clothing which obscured him enough to prevent positive identification, so he followed Martin, and summoned the authorities. Nowhere here is antisocial behavior displayed. Martin, on the other hand, led Zimmerman into a secluded area, where the confrontation and altercation took place. Martin was not only taller than Zimmerman, he was also a football player. One does not become a football player by displaying traits tending towards passivity. The testimony of Martin's "friend" clearly demonstrates the antisocial, racist mindset of his clique.

Ironically, Obama claims that Martin "could have been his son". If Martin was Obama's son, Obama would never have been elected President. The "Creepy-ass Cracker" mentality would have instantly doomed him from the start.

What a load of carp. Zimmerman was "led" by Martin. He was stalking him. ...


Zimmerman was a watch commander.. That's what they do . observe report and continue to observe. Usually at some point you need to follow to observe.
 
2013-07-08 03:59:39 PM

ELKAY: jaybeezey: ELKAY: I really hope GZ doesn't get off. The last thing we need in this country is a bunch of a$$hole vigilante's thinking they now have a hunting license for black teenagers.

He clearly did not act as a reasonable or responsible person that night and deserves a manslaughter charge.

Right? Because it's such a prevalent attitude now. I'd hate for it to get bolstered.

Most everyone i know is just chomping at the bit to have his/her life turned inside out on national TV so they can smoke some kid.

Don't live in fear and hate and everything will be OK.

Would you feels safe if George Zimmerman lived in your neighborhood?

Would you feel safe if a George Zimmerman wannabe lived in your neighborhood?

I wouldn't. I think this man with past assault charges and domestic violence charges who has now killed a teenager under questionable circumstances should not be allowed to own a fire arm.

He clearly acted with reckless disregard for human life, he is a proven liar, his story from that night does not add up, and while there is not enough evidence for murder I think manslaughter is a slam dunk. I hope the jury has that option.


Yeah, i'd be fine with it. But then i don't cowar at the thought of people owning guns. It'd be nice to know that someone was looking out and taking an interest in the community other than the jerks from the HOA.
 
2013-07-08 04:00:43 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: I guess you're just celebrating the fact that this happened in Florida and no Jews were involved?


Better than celebrating this because a black person was involved like some try-hard race baiting trolls around here, such as yourself.  Put the cards away, race isn't an issue here.  Or are you just attempting to piss off a mod enough to delete your posts, so you can cry about that too, even ask to be banned and then talk about running off to youtube as if it's a threat and not something most of us would welcome, your complete absence.

Was nice there, for a couple days we didn't have you in these threads.
 
2013-07-08 04:00:59 PM

TheWhoppah: The MMA instructor just put the nail in GZ's coffin...
If GZ is so fat and bad at fighting, why would he confront a stranger on the sidewalk at night... unless he started the confrontation intending to use the weapon?
QED


Zimmerman has been known to confront a stranger in the Alps.
 
2013-07-08 04:01:07 PM

Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.


But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled

www.blowoutcards.com
 
2013-07-08 04:01:14 PM
I'm 100% sure wouldn't be able to recognize the screams of any of my nephews or brothers-in-law.
Is that normal?  Does that make me a bad uncle?
That said, I' sure I would recognize the screams of my own children... especially if they scream familiar like "No No Noooooooooo!"
 
2013-07-08 04:02:13 PM

cretinbob: You forgot the wannabe cop part. Zimmerman is the police equivalent of an arsonist who sets fires because he wants to be a firefighter.
The difference is we don't tolerate that shiat and the cops embrace it.


Someone should bring you up on charges! You are really killing it!

sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2013-07-08 04:04:17 PM

cretinbob: Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.

But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled

[www.blowoutcards.com image 640x617]


Also someone who has had their face pummeled:
0.tqn.com
/hot
 
2013-07-08 04:04:37 PM

cretinbob: Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.

But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled

[www.blowoutcards.com image 640x617]


Still waiting for you to offer any evidence that he should be out of breath.  Even if his face wasn't "pummeled" (as subjective as that description is), There would have to be injuries on Martin to show that he did indeed exert himself.  The fight lasted roughly one minute (according to witness testimony) and GZ spent most of his time on the ground trying to block the assault to his face.  Where does the exertion come in?
 
2013-07-08 04:04:44 PM

Magorn: redmid17: Elegy: Yes! Back at my desk and can watch the trial.

Thanks for the updates everyone that provided them.

MMA instructor is putting a nail in the coffin of Zimmerman being a fighter. "Scale of 1 to 10 how good was Mr Zimmerman when he came to you?" "Like 0.5"

"He's so bad I can't actually rate him on that scale."

But keep in mind that this is testimony from someone who thinks MMA bears any resemblance to actual fighting.   They might as well have called the Rex-Kwan-Do guy.    Bad slip by the prosecution letting this guy testify, I would have Voir Dire'd his status as an expert witness into oblivion.  Utterly laughable that anyone who teaches that crap that they call MMA would be considered an expert on street fighting of any kind.  Technique and training count for less than nothing in a real street fight, it's all about the desire to hurt the other person and a williness to put aside anything resembling a concept of fighting fair or "honor" to do it.  and I was taught that a long time ago  BY a martial arts instructor who held multiple black belts in Aikido, Tang-so-do, Hapkido, etc, but before that had grown up as the enforcer in street gang in one fo the rougher parts of SE DC


Street fighting is more about cardio than anything else.

Most street fights end up with two guys wrestling, grappling, holding onto one another and gasping for air....very little punches are thrown.

/streetfighter
//I hear people try to tap nowadays though
 
2013-07-08 04:06:02 PM
Whelp, I guess this explains why the prosecution didn't object to the hearsy testimony from Serino and the other cop on what Tracy Martin said. The defense agreed to put Tracy Martin on the stand and the prosecution now gets a crack at him in cross.

Trying to walk back that damning "no" as shock just has fast as they can.
 
2013-07-08 04:06:17 PM

cretinbob: Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.

But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled

[www.blowoutcards.com image 640x617]


Frankie Edgar looks like that when he gets hit once......

marks don't tell a tale, everyone is different
 
2013-07-08 04:06:40 PM
I will say this, listening to a father talking about how he learned he lost his son is pretty damn sad.
 
2013-07-08 04:07:01 PM

Giltric: Magorn: redmid17: Elegy: Yes! Back at my desk and can watch the trial.

Thanks for the updates everyone that provided them.

MMA instructor is putting a nail in the coffin of Zimmerman being a fighter. "Scale of 1 to 10 how good was Mr Zimmerman when he came to you?" "Like 0.5"

"He's so bad I can't actually rate him on that scale."

But keep in mind that this is testimony from someone who thinks MMA bears any resemblance to actual fighting.   They might as well have called the Rex-Kwan-Do guy.    Bad slip by the prosecution letting this guy testify, I would have Voir Dire'd his status as an expert witness into oblivion.  Utterly laughable that anyone who teaches that crap that they call MMA would be considered an expert on street fighting of any kind.  Technique and training count for less than nothing in a real street fight, it's all about the desire to hurt the other person and a williness to put aside anything resembling a concept of fighting fair or "honor" to do it.  and I was taught that a long time ago  BY a martial arts instructor who held multiple black belts in Aikido, Tang-so-do, Hapkido, etc, but before that had grown up as the enforcer in street gang in one fo the rougher parts of SE DC

Street fighting is more about cardio than anything else.

Most street fights end up with two guys wrestling, grappling, holding onto one another and gasping for air....very little punches are thrown.

/streetfighter
//I hear people try to tap nowadays though


Ken?
 
2013-07-08 04:07:18 PM

Abuse Liability: Where does the exertion come in?


Know how I know you've never been in a fight?
 
2013-07-08 04:08:03 PM
media.screened.com

Tracy Martin is the Duke of New York...FACT!
 
2013-07-08 04:08:38 PM

cretinbob: Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.

But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled by a professional face pummeler, not a 17 year old with no training

 
2013-07-08 04:09:15 PM

lousyskater: Abuse Liability: Where does the exertion come in?

Know how I know you've never been in a fight?


I've likely been in plenty more fights than you.  The ones that last fifty two seconds don't leave me out of breath for minutes after, even when I'm the aggressor.  I've actually been in about 7 fights (all before leaving high school), but thanks for playing.
 
2013-07-08 04:09:56 PM

redmid17: Giltric: Magorn: redmid17: Elegy: Yes! Back at my desk and can watch the trial.

Thanks for the updates everyone that provided them.

MMA instructor is putting a nail in the coffin of Zimmerman being a fighter. "Scale of 1 to 10 how good was Mr Zimmerman when he came to you?" "Like 0.5"

"He's so bad I can't actually rate him on that scale."

But keep in mind that this is testimony from someone who thinks MMA bears any resemblance to actual fighting.   They might as well have called the Rex-Kwan-Do guy.    Bad slip by the prosecution letting this guy testify, I would have Voir Dire'd his status as an expert witness into oblivion.  Utterly laughable that anyone who teaches that crap that they call MMA would be considered an expert on street fighting of any kind.  Technique and training count for less than nothing in a real street fight, it's all about the desire to hurt the other person and a williness to put aside anything resembling a concept of fighting fair or "honor" to do it.  and I was taught that a long time ago  BY a martial arts instructor who held multiple black belts in Aikido, Tang-so-do, Hapkido, etc, but before that had grown up as the enforcer in street gang in one fo the rougher parts of SE DC

Street fighting is more about cardio than anything else.

Most street fights end up with two guys wrestling, grappling, holding onto one another and gasping for air....very little punches are thrown.

/streetfighter
//I hear people try to tap nowadays though

Ken?


Gil.

Or G.T. if we're friends.

Gil Tyler Richardson if you're my mom and I'm in trouble.
 
2013-07-08 04:10:22 PM

lousyskater: Abuse Liability: Where does the exertion come in?

Know how I know you've never been in a fight?


Want to know how I know you're out of shape?
 
2013-07-08 04:10:59 PM
And his bullshiat of 'Well just trying to figure out why the defendant got out of his car to chase my son' made me lose a lot of sympathy.
 
2013-07-08 04:11:15 PM
So, Z's friends and family were disturbed by the screams for help, but M's father re-played the tape 20 times?

Why would a father want to hear what he thought was his son screaming for help over and over again?
 
2013-07-08 04:11:35 PM
Man, BDLR is really turning on the skeezy emotional schmaltz in cross.

I do feel bad for Tracy Martin, hard to lose a kid.
 
2013-07-08 04:12:39 PM

Tatsuma: I will say this, listening to a father talking about how he learned he lost his son is pretty damn sad.


This whole case is pretty damn sad. Especially when you look back through the time-line and see how many missed opportunities, from both parties, there were for a different, non-lethal outcome.
 
2013-07-08 04:12:45 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-07-08 04:13:03 PM

nekom: washington-babylon:
That is correct. I am aware of that fact (and also aware that the Native American slave trade flourished for an estimated 300 years), however I was pointing out the fact that even at the end of the Civil war there were slaves from almost every race being held against their will in the U.S. Whether or not one race was the majority or not doesn't give them any more right to pull the "Because slavery" card. I have ancestors on my mother's side who were Irish slaves, so I could have equal right to pull that card if chose to. Oddly enough, youNever hear any of the other enslaved races from that time period pull that card. Why is that? What is so different?

Well, it's not EXACTLY the same situation.  I don't hold anyone accountable for what their ancestors may have done, and it is important to move forward, but the Irish were eventually accepted and treated just the same as other whites.  It's easier to get over the past when you aren't STILL an underclass.  Blacks fought for years, DECADES for every right they have.  Tooth and nail, finding resistance at every turn.  Ok they can't LEGALLY be slaves, but no voting.  OK they can vote, but must drink from the colored fountain.  I can understand if some of them are still a tad bitter, I can't say I wouldn't be.  A country brings their ancestors over to be slaves, then gets mad at them when they try to be our equals.  I'd be a bit pissed.


I agree with you as far as this is concerned. Oddly enough though, the Irish were and are still treated as an underclass themselves, albeit not so broadly in America as elsewhere.
 
2013-07-08 04:13:29 PM
This should be interesting. This is the fired chief of Sanford PD.
 
2013-07-08 04:13:53 PM

HAMMERTOE: Cletus C.: Zimmerman playing Paul Blart is, was and always will be the problem. Without that asshattery a person isn't dead and another on trial. Farking dumbass.

Haven't you ever seen an "uplifting" news report, or movie or story where the citizens of a rough neighborhood "take back" their streets from the thugs/ prostitutes/ gang-bangers/ hoods? At some point in every one of these offerings, there is an early climactic moment where a confrontation occurs. Usually multiple confrontations. Early in the story, the confrontation goes in favor of the antagonist(s) of the story. And, the "turning point" involves the confrontation going in favor of the people trying to "take back their streets." Well, this is no different. This country is built upon the foundational principle that we as citizens, bear the personal right (and responsibility) of seeing to the protection of our selves, our neighbors, and our neighborhoods.

What's really on trial here is the continued viability of using "Angry Black Man Syndrome" as a mitigating factor in anti-social behavior. Zimmerman observed Martin coming out of a neighbor's back yard, dressed in clothing which obscured him enough to prevent positive identification, so he followed Martin, and summoned the authorities. Nowhere here is antisocial behavior displayed. Martin, on the other hand, led Zimmerman into a secluded area, where the confrontation and altercation took place. Martin was not only taller than Zimmerman, he was also a football player. One does not become a football player by displaying traits tending towards passivity. The testimony of Martin's "friend" clearly demonstrates the antisocial, racist mindset of his clique.

Ironically, Obama claims that Martin "could have been his son". If Martin was Obama's son, Obama would never have been elected President. The "Creepy-ass Cracker" mentality would have instantly doomed him from the start.



Viewing reality through the lens of revenge movies?  You're either a farking idiot, a troll or both.  Given the nonsensical second paragraph, I'm leaning towards the latter but if it's the former, go back to jerking off to Death Wish and leave the grown ups alone.
 
2013-07-08 04:15:05 PM

cretinbob: Abuse Liability: You're not doing much fighting if you're getting your face pummeled.

But he wasn't getting his face pummeled.

This is someone who has had his face pummeled

[www.blowoutcards.com image 640x617]


weird.  He didn't even have his nose broken the way George did.
 
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