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2013-07-08 08:14:10 AM
Meh, slideshow.
 
2013-07-08 08:17:46 AM
At least it's not one of those "Next picture, new page and, oh by the way new ads" types of slideshow.
 
2013-07-08 08:19:15 AM
ww1.hdnux.com

Somebody didn't put their seat-back in the upright position.
 
2013-07-08 08:19:20 AM
wow the planes still in colour
 
2013-07-08 08:30:50 AM
Looks like the breastpumps did okay. That's good.
 
GBB
2013-07-08 08:33:14 AM
See people?  This is what happens when you turn on your cell phone during landing.
 
2013-07-08 08:39:25 AM
What I'm wondering is how many people were injured because they weren't wearing a seat belt. I see it all the time while flying, the plane gets close to the ground and people unbuckle, thinking everything is safe.
 
2013-07-08 08:41:06 AM
It's a testament to safety procedures, protocols and engineering design that only two people died in that crash. Honestly had this happened even ten years ago the death toll would have been much much higher.

Amazing
 
2013-07-08 08:41:24 AM
You can see where the missile hit.
 
2013-07-08 08:42:27 AM
Related stories:
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dafuq?
 
2013-07-08 08:48:47 AM

Deep Contact: You can see where the missile hit.


It was a torpedo that show out from the water. It hit the tail.  This is no Cold War
 
2013-07-08 08:53:02 AM
Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

A Honda Civic that's averaging 50 mph legally has to have one for each passenger and the driver, but a jumbo jet that falls out of the sky from an initial top speed of hundreds of miles per hour just has it's passengers using a lap belt?  Hell, a 5pt harness would be a step up.
 
2013-07-08 08:56:03 AM
That was a hot fire to melt holes in the fuselage like that.
 
2013-07-08 09:01:01 AM
Wow, 9 photos, all but maybe 1 has been in every article regarding the event.
 
2013-07-08 09:06:43 AM

Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

A Honda Civic that's averaging 50 mph legally has to have one for each passenger and the driver, but a jumbo jet that falls out of the sky from an initial top speed of hundreds of miles per hour just has it's passengers using a lap belt?  Hell, a 5pt harness would be a step up.


Adds weight, which increases costs
 
2013-07-08 09:16:38 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

A Honda Civic that's averaging 50 mph legally has to have one for each passenger and the driver, but a jumbo jet that falls out of the sky from an initial top speed of hundreds of miles per hour just has it's passengers using a lap belt?  Hell, a 5pt harness would be a step up.

Adds weight, which increases costs


Not to mention that when a plane like this goes down, an airbag isn't likely to do much other than knock you out.
 
2013-07-08 09:18:41 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

A Honda Civic that's averaging 50 mph legally has to have one for each passenger and the driver, but a jumbo jet that falls out of the sky from an initial top speed of hundreds of miles per hour just has it's passengers using a lap belt?  Hell, a 5pt harness would be a step up.

Adds weight, which increases costs


There are also a whole lot more car wrecks than there are airplane crashes.
 
2013-07-08 09:19:28 AM

Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?


Padded seatbacks. It's basically the same thought process behind why buses and second- and third-row seats don't have frontal airbags. There's also the unpredictable deployment angle if you attach them to a reclining forward seat, and the question about how you handle the seat tray, unpredictable items on the tray, or unpredictable lap items. These are generally questions that don't need to be asked for the driver of a car, and rarely come up for front-seat passengers.
 
2013-07-08 09:26:17 AM

peewinkle: Not to mention that when a plane like this goes down, an airbag isn't likely to do much other than knock you out.


And they've already redesigned seats to prevent injury from sudden stops too, so there is that as well. Which obviously works given that only two people died in what would other wise been a horrific accident.
 
2013-07-08 09:53:41 AM

Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

A Honda Civic that's averaging 50 mph legally has to have one for each passenger and the driver, but a jumbo jet that falls out of the sky from an initial top speed of hundreds of miles per hour just has it's passengers using a lap belt?  Hell, a 5pt harness would be a step up.


Well, option A is to put 400 small explosives on a plane... hmmm...

Also frontal airbags are designed to protect you from a sudden stop flinging you forward... Unless the plane hits a wall, they usually shed frontal momentum relatively slowly.

They'd also slow down evacuation.
 
2013-07-08 10:40:25 AM
Please be careful opening the overhead bins as contents may have shifted during kablammo.
 
2013-07-08 10:45:02 AM
I would investigate her further, if you know what I mean
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-07-08 11:08:17 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: It's a testament to safety procedures, protocols and engineering design that only two people died in that crash. Honestly had this happened even ten years ago the death toll would have been much much higher.

Amazing


LOLWUT?

WTF kind of spin is this? A plane crashed and two people died and you're saying only two people died and celebrating.

What procedure, protocol or engineering exactly saved those lives? It could well turn out that it was an engineering problem that led to all this.
 
2013-07-08 11:10:10 AM

DubtodaIll: That was a hot fire to melt holes in the fuselage like that.


Aluminum burns at 600-700 degrees, not super hot.
 
2013-07-08 11:12:57 AM

mr0x: What procedure, protocol or engineering exactly saved those lives? It could well turn out that it was an engineering problem that led to all this.


The fact that the 777 is built so everyone can evacuate in 90 seconds probably helped (even without the additional holes in the plane).
 
2013-07-08 11:14:29 AM
Step 1a. Download all the pics uploaded by NTSB and linked to on their twitter feed.
Step 1b. Rehost all the pics on your own server and create an "article" about them.
Step 2. ....
Step 3. Profit!
 
2013-07-08 11:16:38 AM

mr0x: WTF kind of spin is this? A plane crashed and two people died and you're saying only two people died and celebrating.

What procedure, protocol or engineering exactly saved those lives? It could well turn out that it was an engineering problem that led to all this.


Two is bad, but look at the crash. It could have been so so so much worse.
 
2013-07-08 11:20:05 AM
Pfft, screw that.  I want video from inside the cabin  during the crash.
 
2013-07-08 11:29:47 AM
It was the idiot recording during landing that caused the crash.
 
2013-07-08 12:13:46 PM
Bad Subby! Link to the source, not the clickwhore:

https://twitter.com/NTSB
 
2013-07-08 12:43:11 PM

DubtodaIll: That was a hot fire to melt holes in the fuselage like that.


Yet, not even leave a smudge of smoke on the seats. Amazing.
 
2013-07-08 04:25:01 PM
We landed on 28R this morning. Seeing that debris field so close was absolutely haunting, and the 777 looked oddly (though understandably) small off to the side.
 
2013-07-08 06:05:37 PM

This text is now purple: Falstaff: Potentially silly question here, but why don't airplane seats have airbags?

Padded seatbacks. It's basically the same thought process behind why buses and second- and third-row seats don't have frontal airbags. There's also the.....


I think it's more about the advertising income they (think they might) get from the seat-back video screens.
 
2013-07-08 09:34:04 PM

jylcat: mr0x: What procedure, protocol or engineering exactly saved those lives? It could well turn out that it was an engineering problem that led to all this.

The fact that the 777 is built so everyone can evacuate in 90 seconds probably helped (even without the additional holes in the plane).


They're all built that way.
 
2013-07-08 09:39:34 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: It's a testament to safety procedures, protocols and engineering design that only two people died in that crash. Honestly had this happened even ten years ago the death toll would have been much much higher.

Amazing


I understand your point, but the 777-200ER was first delivered in 1997. (This one came off the line in 2006.) So these passengers were saved by 15+ year old technology.
 
2013-07-08 10:24:46 PM

mr0x: IdBeCrazyIf: It's a testament to safety procedures, protocols and engineering design that only two people died in that crash. Honestly had this happened even ten years ago the death toll would have been much much higher.

Amazing

LOLWUT?

WTF kind of spin is this? A plane crashed and two people died and you're saying only two people died and celebrating.

What procedure, protocol or engineering exactly saved those lives? It could well turn out that it was an engineering problem that led to all this.


All you need to do is watch some old plane test crash footage, and then see what this plane went through to be amazed that only 2 people died.  If this was an older aircraft we would be looking at a way over 50% kill rate for this crash
 
2013-07-08 10:48:42 PM
Probably closer to 75%
 
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