Dimensio: Aldon: Fark It: Aldon: Not even your article says confiscation is being proposed, though it tries to use a lot of weasel words to seem like that is what he is saying. And also no one is even suggesting it is for all firearms.anyway... states rightsThose goalposts, they heavy?Haha! Project much?Where in that article shows someone in power proposing confiscation of firearms?"Even if you have them, I think we need to start taking them," Muhlbauer said.
MFAWG: Pointing out thate firearms serve no purpose other than to kill things is absurd to you?Really?
doglover: BTK used a steak knife and curtains.
AngryJailhouseFistfark: The game of "I'm testing you" is long and tedious, like watching Abe Vigoda seducing Betty White and the two of them enjoined in sexual congress. It holds neither entertainment nor instructional value for any of us.
vanbiber874: Click Click D'oh: vanbiber874: I'm assuming by school shooting teams you mean armed officers in schools.No, school shooting teams as in teams of student under the guidance of a coach that attend and compete in shooting events against similar teams composed of students from other schools.These things really existed once upon a time.How many of these were implicated in school shootings since.... Ever?vanbiber874: ...but handling a gun should be the responsibility of the parents (if they chose to educate their child).So, you are an advocate of home schooling then?That's a stretch to link what I said to being an advocate of home schooling. And I've noticed that attempting to respond to your comments doesn't really lead anywhere. So....btw, you might want to rephrase to "school-sponsored shooting team" or something like that. When you say "school shooting team" it sounds confusing, to me at least.
redmid17: Zasteva:All good examples. So you are fully in support of laws requiring trigger/hammer locks for stored weapons, or storage in a gun safe when not on your person? Because most of the pro-gun crowd seem to be vociferously against them.redmid17: Any of those laws would get tossed in about 15 seconds after the summary judgment was requested, and I'm saying that as someone who stores his guns in a locked gun cabinet with either a trigger lock or breech lock as convenience dictates.
Zasteva: The proper thing to do with uninformed people is to educate them, not dismiss them from the discussion.
scotty425: Dimensio: scotty425: Dimensio: PanicMan: John Buck 41: 4+ week old article. Nice going, everyone involved.Has anything changed in the past 4 weeks re gun laws or American culture as it relates to violence?Illinois governor and shameless liar Pat Quinn used an amendatory veto to alter the recently passed concealed weapons permit law into uselessness while citing the crime rates of Chicago, which imposes very strict restrictions upon civilian firearm possession, as justification.Tomorrow's thread on the override vote is gonna be EPIC!I have not been anticipating any discussion of the vote; previous news regarding the matter (the governor's delay in addressing the bill and his eventual amendatory veto) did not, to my knowledge, reach Fark's Main or Politics pages.Nope, it didn't make Fark before, but it might tomorrow. Tuesday both chambers of the Illinois General assembly will hold a vote to override Quinn's amendatory veto. Illinois is the last state prohibiting the carrying of firearms for self defense, a prohibition that was struck down by the 7th Circuit Court. July 9 is the deadline to have a law in place allowing concealed carry. If no law is in place and barring an appeal by Lisa Madigan to the SC, one of two things will happen, either "constitutional carry" or in Illinois' case FOID carry will be the rule or each county and home rule community will set their own laws. IMHO, the veto will be overridden and H183 will become law.
MFAWG: Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.
MFAWG: doglover: MFAWG: Guns do notCartman, you're not gonna fool the judges so stop trying to get into the Special Olympics.Do they have another use? Please enlighten me.Target shooting is really just practicing getting better at making things dead.
OnlyM3: MFAWG2013-07-08 09:30:47 AMGreat Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.Straw manYou only wear a seat belt because you plan on running down preschoolers and are terrified you'll get hurt when doing so, right?
hailin: Ah I think I just realized why this crap happens. In the article, the kid said he saw his cousins go to prison and when they got out they were surrounded by girls. So we just need to teach women to respect themselves and not date sleezeballs who have been to prison. If they don't get girls then it won't be "cool" to be a criminal.Not saying it is a realistic solution, but better than restrictive gun laws that protect no one.
MFAWG2013-07-08 09:30:47 AMGreat Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.
hailin: So we just need to teach women to respect themselves and not date sleezeballs who have been to prison.
Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.
Aarontology: See the war on drugs for how to not only enact draconian ineffective laws, but how to double down on them despite the abysmal and total failure of said laws.
dittybopper: I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.
vpb: Well, that's what prisons are for.Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.
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