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2013-07-08 08:10:57 AM
Look how well the work in Chicago.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-08 08:28:58 AM
Well, that's what prisons are for.

Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.
 
2013-07-08 08:30:59 AM

vpb: Well, that's what prisons are for.

Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.


We don't need MORE laws against robbing banks. It's already illegal enough.
 
2013-07-08 09:03:04 AM
Serial killers just ignore laws against murder. Obviously, the problem is that we have too many laws against murder.
 
2013-07-08 09:04:50 AM

vpb: Well, that's what prisons are for.

Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.


Laws against committing a violent act are fine.  That's not what you want, though:  You want laws against the possession of inanimate objects, which is something completely different.

Nice job trying to conflate the two, though.  I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.
 
2013-07-08 09:06:06 AM

vernonFL: Serial killers just ignore laws against murder. Obviously, the problem is that we have too many laws against murder.


BTK used a steak knife and curtains.

You can still buy curtains and steak knives at the same time without background checks.
 
2013-07-08 09:16:24 AM
See the war on drugs for how to not only enact draconian ineffective laws, but how to double down on them despite the abysmal and total failure of said laws.
 
2013-07-08 09:28:52 AM
Jesus forgives, so laws are completely unnecessary.
 
2013-07-08 09:29:04 AM
Gun laws don't make me any safer.  They just make it harder for me to defend myself.
 
2013-07-08 09:29:38 AM
"But no law stopped him from becoming a teenage drug dealer who could easily acquire, and use, his weapon of choice "

So do we stop passing drug laws too since they don't seem to care about them either?
 
2013-07-08 09:29:39 AM

dittybopper: I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.


Watch out! They're storming into your house and into your gun cabinet to take all your guns away!!! Might as well shot your dog before they do!
 
2013-07-08 09:29:58 AM

doglover: vernonFL: Serial killers just ignore laws against murder. Obviously, the problem is that we have too many laws against murder.

BTK used a steak knife and curtains.

You can still buy curtains and steak knives at the same time without background checks.


Curtains and steak knives have uses besides causing death. Guns do not. See the difference?
 
2013-07-08 09:30:32 AM

Aarontology: See the war on drugs for how to not only enact draconian ineffective laws, but how to double down on them despite the abysmal and total failure of said laws.


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2013-07-08 09:30:47 AM

Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer.  They just make it harder for me to defend myself.


Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.
 
2013-07-08 09:31:04 AM

doglover: BTK used a steak knife and curtains.


If ugly curtains were illegal, the people who owned my house before me would have been executed.
 
2013-07-08 09:31:45 AM

monoski: "But no law stopped him from becoming a teenage drug dealer who could easily acquire, and use, his weapon of choice "

So do we stop passing drug laws too since they don't seem to care about them either?


yes
 
2013-07-08 09:31:56 AM
We need to make the gun laws lawier.
 
2013-07-08 09:31:59 AM

Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer.  They just make it harder for me to defend myself.


a truly Great Janitor need only a mop and broom to right all wrongs. Son, I am disappoint.
 
2013-07-08 09:32:15 AM

monoski: "But no law stopped him from becoming a teenage drug dealer who could easily acquire, and use, his weapon of choice "

So do we stop passing drug laws too since they don't seem to care about them either?


Yes
 
2013-07-08 09:32:22 AM
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2013-07-08 09:32:30 AM

CapeFearCadaver: dittybopper: I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.

Watch out! They're storming into your house and into your gun cabinet to take all your guns away!!! Might as well shot your dog before they do!


English isn't your first language, is it?
 
2013-07-08 09:33:45 AM
Ah I think I just realized why this crap happens. In the article, the kid said he saw his cousins go to prison and when they got out they were surrounded by girls. So we just need to teach women to respect themselves and not date sleezeballs who have been to prison. If they don't get girls then it won't be "cool" to be a criminal.

Not saying it is a realistic solution, but better than restrictive gun laws that protect no one.
 
2013-07-08 09:33:52 AM

This text is now purple: doglover: BTK used a steak knife and curtains.

If ugly curtains were illegal, the people who owned my house before me would have been executed.


Only Executed? The previous owner of my house would have been Shot, Stabbed, Beheaded, Drawn and Quartered.
 
2013-07-08 09:34:41 AM

MFAWG: Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer.  They just make it harder for me to defend myself.

Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.


conservatism isn't about being rational, dude.
 
2013-07-08 09:34:53 AM

hailin: So we just need to teach women to respect themselves and not date sleezeballs who have been to prison.


Stomping out gun violence may be easier.
 
2013-07-08 09:34:56 AM

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We need to make the gun laws lawier.


lawl
 
2013-07-08 09:35:21 AM
Those girls find dudes who've been to prison hot? What the fark is that all about? I get the bad boy concept but not the "I want a man who will never go anywhere in life and is prone to violence."
 
2013-07-08 09:36:07 AM

MFAWG: Guns do not


Cartman, you're not gonna fool the judges so stop trying to get into the Special Olympics.
 
2013-07-08 09:36:10 AM
I think its a good rule of thumb to not move into any neighborhood with public murals. Seems like they are most prominent in places like camden, belfast, etc.
 
2013-07-08 09:36:11 AM

MFAWG: Jesus forgives, so laws are completely unnecessary.


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2013-07-08 09:36:45 AM

browntimmy: Those girls find dudes who've been to prison hot? What the fark is that all about? I get the bad boy concept but not the "I want a man who will never go anywhere in life and is prone to violence."


Daddy. Issues.
 
2013-07-08 09:36:46 AM

dittybopper: CapeFearCadaver: dittybopper: I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.

Watch out! They're storming into your house and into your gun cabinet to take all your guns away!!! Might as well shot your dog before they do!

English isn't your first language, is it?


My grammar is impeccable.

/gun owner, CCW carrier
 
2013-07-08 09:37:04 AM
Yeah great, compare a wealthy suburban school massacre perpetrated by a lunatic who stole his weapons from a "responsible" gun owner with a long term crime riddled ghetto steeped in poverty and a lack of education, because they share the same problems and should look at similar solutions.
 
2013-07-08 09:37:32 AM

browntimmy: Those girls find dudes who've been to prison hot? What the fark is that all about? I get the bad boy concept but not the "I want a man who will never go anywhere in life and is prone to violence."


they don't talk in English here's an exmaple of their conversation:

"if i gay then you gay"
"lets gay!"  fark fark fark
 
2013-07-08 09:37:45 AM

browntimmy: Those girls find dudes who've been to prison hot? What the fark is that all about? I get the bad boy concept but not the "I want a man who will never go anywhere in life and is prone to violence."


low self esteem
 
2013-07-08 09:37:49 AM
Wow, someone had the cojones to write a "The Emperor has no clothes" article on gun laws.

I am sure her tenure at USA Today will be short.
 
2013-07-08 09:37:54 AM

monoski: "But no law stopped him from becoming a teenage drug dealer who could easily acquire, and use, his weapon of choice "

So do we stop passing drug laws too since they don't seem to care about them either?


Not a very good example for you to pick since the drug war has been an utter failure. Legalizing and redirecting the enforcement money into treatment programs is what a smart country would do.
 
2013-07-08 09:38:14 AM
It always makes me laugh that they ban this gun or that gun, or make it 20 times harder for a law abiding person who has common sense to get a good weapon for either self defense, hunting, or target shooting. After all those poor kids were killed by that asshole with the AR-15, all the gun hating libtards said "WE must do something to ban these guns, or make it much harder for people to get them. We must keep guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed people."

Durrrrrrrrr

/The guy who killed all those kids? The guns weren't his. They belonged to his mother, who was a valid non crazy weapon owner. He killed her and stole her guns. Banning guns, or making it hard for honest law abiding people to get them does nothing, beyond your knee jerk reaction. He STOLE THEM. Make all the stupid moranic laws you want, criminals and crazy people don't give a fark. Jesus, get a farking brain and stop making new laws that the criminals ignore, or make it harder for honest people to defend themselves. Get a brain morans.
 
2013-07-08 09:39:00 AM
Wait, so what you're saying is that we have to treat the DISEASE of crime and violence, rather than a single symptom? Has anyone told the news media this?
 
2013-07-08 09:39:21 AM
They can make all the farking laws they want. If they don't enforce them then what farking good are they? You have armed robbers and murderers getting out early and walking the streets while some pot head sits in jail over a bag of weed.
 
2013-07-08 09:40:25 AM

vpb: Well, that's what prisons are for.

Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.


Look, 2 posts in, and we have someone who did not RTFA...

"I wanted to shoot people because that's what I saw growing up," said Baker, 20, a Camden native who spent four years in jail after being involved in several shootings. "When I was younger, I would see my boys and cousins going into jail and when they got out, all the girls wanted them. So, I wanted to go to jail. I wanted to be like America's Most Wanted. I wanted my name to be known on the streets."
 
2013-07-08 09:40:49 AM
MFAWG
2013-07-08 09:30:47 AM


Great Janitor: Gun laws don't make me any safer. They just make it harder for me to defend myself.

Because that's what you do, walk around terrified of everything. That must suck.
Straw man
You only wear a seat belt because you plan on running down preschoolers and are terrified you'll get hurt when doing so, right?
 
2013-07-08 09:41:29 AM
Selective gun laws in localities don't work? Well hello captain obvious.

To make gun laws work, it has to be done nationally unless you have the power to search everybody and everything coming in and out of your locality. Gun regulation is a national problem - like it is in other countries.
 
2013-07-08 09:41:29 AM

dittybopper: CapeFearCadaver: dittybopper: I'm sure you'll get the usual group of useful idiots to agree with you.

Watch out! They're storming into your house and into your gun cabinet to take all your guns away!!! Might as well shot your dog before they do!

English isn't your first language, is it?


Snark is.
 
2013-07-08 09:41:30 AM

abhorrent1: They can make all the farking laws they want. If they don't enforce them then what farking good are they? You have armed robbers and murderers getting out early and walking the streets while some pot head sits in jail over a bag of weed.


maybe the robbers and murderers understood what they did was wrong, while the pot head is like "i sell weed i hate government down with drug laws"
 
2013-07-08 09:42:24 AM

OnlyM3: You only wear a seat belt because you plan on running down preschoolers and are terrified you'll get hurt when doing so, right?


Not preschoolers you heartless bastard. I have a conscience.

So I run over old folks at retirement homes, they are practically dead anyway.
 
2013-07-08 09:43:00 AM

Mikey1969: vpb: Well, that's what prisons are for.

Bank robbers don't care about laws either, that doesn't mean that we don't need laws against robbing banks.

Look, 2 posts in, and we have someone who did not RTFA...

"I wanted to shoot people because that's what I saw growing up," said Baker, 20, a Camden native who spent four years in jail after being involved in several shootings. "When I was younger, I would see my boys and cousins going into jail and when they got out, all the girls wanted them. So, I wanted to go to jail. I wanted to be like America's Most Wanted. I wanted my name to be known on the streets."


I too want to give up a large portion of my life and freedom so I can bang the trashiest of ghetto trash
 
2013-07-08 09:43:23 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: It always makes me laugh that they ban this gun or that gun, or make it 20 times harder for a law abiding person who has common sense to get a good weapon for either self defense, hunting, or target shooting. After all those poor kids were killed by that asshole with the AR-15, all the gun hating libtards said "WE must do something to ban these guns, or make it much harder for people to get them. We must keep guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed people."

Durrrrrrrrr

/The guy who killed all those kids? The guns weren't his. They belonged to his mother, who was a valid non crazy weapon owner. He killed her and stole her guns. Banning guns, or making it hard for honest law abiding people to get them does nothing, beyond your knee jerk reaction. He STOLE THEM. Make all the stupid moranic laws you want, criminals and crazy people don't give a fark. Jesus, get a farking brain and stop making new laws that the criminals ignore, or make it harder for honest people to defend themselves. Get a brain morans.


Funny thing is the gun shop the Lanza guns were purchased from was just busted for selling guns illegally. The fine is amazingly hefty too.
 
2013-07-08 09:44:07 AM
4+ week old article. Nice going, everyone involved.
 
2013-07-08 09:44:15 AM

StaleCoffee: Yeah great, compare a wealthy suburban school massacre perpetrated by a lunatic who stole his weapons from a "responsible" gun owner with a long term crime riddled ghetto steeped in poverty and a lack of education, because they share the same problems and should look at similar solutions.


Your criticism is appropriate. Gun ban advocacy groups recognize the difference, which is why they differentiate between such incidents rather than grouping all deaths resulting from firearm use, regardless of context and including all suicides, as "gun deaths" and advocating unreasonable restrictions based upon that single figure.
 
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