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(Seattle Times)   You've just caught the teenage punks who broke into a dozen cars in the neighborhood. Do you take matters in your own hands and C) make them return the stolen items and apologize to every one of their victims?   (seattletimes.com) divider line 50
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2013-07-08 02:20:24 AM  
I hold them for the police assuming I caught them in the process of actually committing a felony.
 
2013-07-08 02:28:22 AM  

feckingmorons: I hold them for the police assuming I caught them in the process of actually committing a felony.


sometimes when your right, yore right.
 
2013-07-08 06:12:39 AM  
You know, that was actually pretty cool. Nice way to handle it.
 
2013-07-08 07:28:10 AM  

feckingmorons: I hold them for the police assuming I caught them in the process of actually committing a felony.


You release them on misdemeanors?
 
2013-07-08 07:31:14 AM  
White kids huh?

/checks article

Yup. Figures.
 
2013-07-08 07:32:21 AM  
Nah, ya stalk them, hunt them and kill them in cold blood because "these assholes always get away with it".

/the bait is danglin'
 
2013-07-08 07:33:27 AM  

Lady Indica: White kids huh?

/checks article

Yup. Figures.


Where did you gather that info?
 
2013-07-08 07:34:36 AM  
I could go either way on this.  If the mom and the kid actually care about his future this may have been the best choice.  If they mom doesn't really give a fark and the kid doesn't give a fark, then this little adventure just delayed the inevitable and will allow more people to be victimized in the meantime.
 
2013-07-08 07:39:55 AM  
I like her approach.

But the poor hubby having to bring up Underage Drinking (when he was 20!) all the time is just stupid.
 
2013-07-08 07:49:11 AM  

The Muthaship: Lady Indica: White kids huh?

/checks article

Yup. Figures.

Where did you gather that info?


I read the article.
 
2013-07-08 07:49:33 AM  

Langdon_777: I like her approach.

But the poor hubby having to bring up Underage Drinking (when he was 20!) all the time is just stupid.


Why do you hate America? We have no room for non-violent non repeat criminals who got back on the straight and narrow! Next youll be saying commie crap like we should decriminalize victimless crimes and stop funding the private prison industry that works to block the restoration of criminals to society. You make me sick
 
2013-07-08 07:57:50 AM  

Lady Indica: The Muthaship: Lady Indica: White kids huh?

/checks article

Yup. Figures.

Where did you gather that info?

I read the article.


Ctrl + F "white" yields no results.  Please elaborate.

/I read the article, but it's early and I'm not going to re-read it for what seems to be a race baiting troll.
 
2013-07-08 08:09:05 AM  

kendelrio: Nah, ya stalk them, hunt them and kill them in cold blood because "these assholes always get away with it".

/the bait is danglin'


------ I would've stopped with smashing their hands with hammers and branding their foreheads, but hey that's just me.

/popcorn
 
2013-07-08 08:15:56 AM  

Lady Indica: I read the article.


Me too.  I missed the reference to the race of the teens.  Can you point it out for me?
 
2013-07-08 08:20:10 AM  

Tarkus: feckingmorons: I hold them for the police assuming I caught them in the process of actually committing a felony.

sometimes when your right, yore right.


Don't forget to get them some condoms in case the prison they're going to doesn't already supply them.
 
2013-07-08 08:22:54 AM  
Tarkus: feckingmorons: I hold them for the police assuming I caught them in the process of actually committing a felony.

sometimes when your
you're right, you're yore right.

In before other spelling Nazi's.
 
2013-07-08 08:27:54 AM  
Yeah, that's a great story and all, but how the fark do you get the leverage on the punks to make them apologize to everyone?  These kids must have been complete losers, or this story is from 1955.
 
2013-07-08 08:28:11 AM  

The Muthaship: Lady Indica: I read the article.

Me too.  I missed the reference to the race of the teens.  Can you point it out for me?


Well, other than the burglarizing cars part, the rest of their behavior just seems really white.
 
2013-07-08 08:30:22 AM  
"I'm actually kind of glad it happened," said the 19-year-old. "It felt terrible to hear that people are worried and feel like they have to lock the door because of what I did. In a funny way, I feel closer to my neighbors and kind of look forward to seeing them around in different circumstances."

His mother said, "I'm deeply grateful to Eliza for taking the time to become personally involved with my son and giving him the chance to go face-to-face with the people he victimized and make amends."

Awesome lady - reminds me of something my mom would do.
 
2013-07-08 08:30:45 AM  
WWZD?
 
2013-07-08 08:36:06 AM  
In 1998-99, I managed a Chapters, in the US think Borders, and one night a shopper came back into the store from the parking lot with two teenagers who looked quite unhappy. The shopper was in the parking lot when he saw one of the teens pull a book out from under his jacket and toss it into the backseat of his car. He confronted them and asked if the book was stolen. The teens told him to fark himself and mind his own business. During this argument the shopper noticed that the driver had left his keys hanging from the car door, so he grabbed them and demanded that they return the book to us and apologize. We met in the managers' office where the GM, my boss, decided to call the police. One of the teens, the shoplifter, punched a hole in our wall. The book he tried to steal was, The Joy of Sex. When the police arrived, I gave them the short version of events and one of the officers picked up the book, looked the shoplifter square in the eye and said, "you realize these are drawings. You at least could have been busted stealing a book with dirty photographs."
 
2013-07-08 08:41:20 AM  
Spanky McStupid:

In before other spelling Nazi's. Nazis
 
2013-07-08 08:48:40 AM  
D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children
 
2013-07-08 09:07:43 AM  

alltim: In 1998-99, I managed a Chapters, in the US think Borders, and one night a shopper came back into the store from the parking lot with two teenagers who looked quite unhappy. The shopper was in the parking lot when he saw one of the teens pull a book out from under his jacket and toss it into the backseat of his car. He confronted them and asked if the book was stolen. The teens told him to fark himself and mind his own business. During this argument the shopper noticed that the driver had left his keys hanging from the car door, so he grabbed them and demanded that they return the book to us and apologize. We met in the managers' office where the GM, my boss, decided to call the police. One of the teens, the shoplifter, punched a hole in our wall. The book he tried to steal was, The Joy of Sex. When the police arrived, I gave them the short version of events and one of the officers picked up the book, looked the shoplifter square in the eye and said, "you realize these are drawings. You at least could have been busted stealing a book with dirty photographs."


Well, did he arrest them or not?
 
2013-07-08 09:17:53 AM  

manimal2878: alltim: In 1998-99, I managed a Chapters, in the US think Borders, and one night a shopper came back into the store from the parking lot with two teenagers who looked quite unhappy. The shopper was in the parking lot when he saw one of the teens pull a book out from under his jacket and toss it into the backseat of his car. He confronted them and asked if the book was stolen. The teens told him to fark himself and mind his own business. During this argument the shopper noticed that the driver had left his keys hanging from the car door, so he grabbed them and demanded that they return the book to us and apologize. We met in the managers' office where the GM, my boss, decided to call the police. One of the teens, the shoplifter, punched a hole in our wall. The book he tried to steal was, The Joy of Sex. When the police arrived, I gave them the short version of events and one of the officers picked up the book, looked the shoplifter square in the eye and said, "you realize these are drawings. You at least could have been busted stealing a book with dirty photographs."

Well, did he arrest them or not?


Jesus, man! There's just some things you don't talk about in public!
 
2013-07-08 09:18:58 AM  

puddleonfire: Spanky McStupid:

In before other spelling Nazi's. Nazis


I laughed so hard.
 
2013-07-08 09:32:15 AM  

Yes please: The Muthaship: Lady Indica: I read the article.

Me too.  I missed the reference to the race of the teens.  Can you point it out for me?

Well, other than the burglarizing cars part, the rest of their behavior just seems really white.


"They seemed very embarrassed and contrite,"

"I'm actually kind of glad it happened," said the 19-year-
old. "It felt terrible to hear that people are worried and feel
like they have to lock the door because of what I did. In a
funny way, I feel closer to my neighbors and kind of look
forward to seeing them around in different circumstances."

For anyone else still wondering if they were white or not. You're welcome
 
2013-07-08 09:39:06 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children


Yes, because young adults never push boundaries or make the mistake of falling in with the wrong crowd. You're a moran.
 
2013-07-08 09:42:28 AM  

willfullyobscure: Yes please: The Muthaship: Lady Indica: I read the article.

Me too.  I missed the reference to the race of the teens.  Can you point it out for me?

Well, other than the burglarizing cars part, the rest of their behavior just seems really white.

"They seemed very embarrassed and contrite,"

"I'm actually kind of glad it happened," said the 19-year-
old. "It felt terrible to hear that people are worried and feel
like they have to lock the door because of what I did. In a
funny way, I feel closer to my neighbors and kind of look
forward to seeing them around in different circumstances."

For anyone else any racists without facts still wondering if they were white or not. You're welcome


FTFY
 
2013-07-08 09:53:25 AM  
Are you sure they were punks, and not New Romantics?
 
2013-07-08 09:54:10 AM  
Awesome lady and even more awesome parents. When some kids in my neighborhood damaged my garage door, all but one set of parents even acknowledged that their child was responsible. The others didn't believe that their child could have caused that dent in the garage door with a water balloon slingshot. It was one of those huge ones that takes 3 people to use and yes, I can assure you, it will dent a garage door.

I'm sure those kids have gone on to bigger and worse things which their parents no doubt deny.
 
2013-07-08 10:13:17 AM  
The bigger issue here is that there were 13 unlocked cars. They weren't breaking into anything, just entering. (Dexter last night)
 
2013-07-08 11:06:39 AM  

manimal2878: alltim: In 1998-99, I managed a Chapters, in the US think Borders, and one night a shopper came back into the store from the parking lot with two teenagers who looked quite unhappy. The shopper was in the parking lot when he saw one of the teens pull a book out from under his jacket and toss it into the backseat of his car. He confronted them and asked if the book was stolen. The teens told him to fark himself and mind his own business. During this argument the shopper noticed that the driver had left his keys hanging from the car door, so he grabbed them and demanded that they return the book to us and apologize. We met in the managers' office where the GM, my boss, decided to call the police. One of the teens, the shoplifter, punched a hole in our wall. The book he tried to steal was, The Joy of Sex. When the police arrived, I gave them the short version of events and one of the officers picked up the book, looked the shoplifter square in the eye and said, "you realize these are drawings. You at least could have been busted stealing a book with dirty photographs."

Well, did he arrest them or not?


No charges on the advice of the police. The Shopper would've been in some trouble for taking their keys. Parents were called. Stern lecture from officers. These guys were 16 years old. Cocky til the cops showed up and dead silent when their parents got there.
 
2013-07-08 11:47:28 AM  
I was being snarky about the assumption beforehand, I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand. After reading that article...if it's accurate...it's obvious they're white. And stupid. Because both the parent and the adult child are ignorant of an arrest, let alone conviction, will fark up your life. And the mom wanted them to call the cops on her kid, which the victim had to talk out of/explain what that would mean.

We live in a country where LeVar Burton has to teach his kids how not to be killed by the police. http://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/levar_burton_explains_how_not_to_be_ki lled_by_police/

So...obvious.

That's my reasoning. You may resume name calling and word searches or whatever.
 
2013-07-08 11:51:00 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children


No, Trolly McTrollsome, it's something I also had to explain to my husband. After a particularly rough week, I said it as simply as I could. "Kids will always do the thing you'd never ever contemplate that they would." Always. You can't prepare for it (as in your idea of beating it into them ahead of this time) because they're completely unpredictable little human beings.

Case in point. Same week, but the weekend. Had to take my son for an eye appointment at a major retailer, and older sis tagged along. While I was dealing with son, she was filling her purse with all kinds of sparkly little non-essentials that teenage girls like. Had never been in trouble prior, straight A student, band, chorus, etc. We got stopped on the way out. Charming. After the whole arrest, released to my custody (thank goodness there were cameras so they knew I wasn't in on it and she *could* be released to me), and arrangement for intervention classes as opposed to having a record, we had a very fun (not) conversation. Her dalliance into retail theft had started the night prior in the same mall, where we walked to next. Asked the manager in a very loud voice, "My daughter came in here with friends last night and stole some items. . . . I need her to pick out what she stole so you can scan it and I can pay for it now." She paid that back in yard work, and paid back her debt to society cleaning toilets at a nearby children's center. Slate wiped clean, lesson learned, and went on to a very good career.

Morale is, kids are going to do the least thing that you'd ever expect them to. Try to plan for it, drive yourself insane.
 
2013-07-08 11:55:06 AM  

Lady Indica: I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand.


Sure seems like you did.

But, you posted a Salon article from a celebrity, so I think you're all good here.
 
2013-07-08 11:59:42 AM  

The Muthaship: Lady Indica: I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand.

Sure seems like you did.

But, you posted a Salon article from a celebrity, so I think you're all good here.


Yes, I kinda addressed that in the first couple sentences, including the one you quoted. It seems like I did because I said I did in a snarky formulaic way.

I also sometimes don't even READ the article when I comment. I know. I know.

/monster
 
2013-07-08 12:09:17 PM  

TaylorSalad: IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children

No, Trolly McTrollsome, it's something I also had to explain to my husband. After a particularly rough week, I said it as simply as I could. "Kids will always do the thing you'd never ever contemplate that they would." Always. You can't prepare for it (as in your idea of beating it into them ahead of this time) because they're completely unpredictable little human beings.

Case in point. Same week, but the weekend. Had to take my son for an eye appointment at a major retailer, and older sis tagged along. While I was dealing with son, she was filling her purse with all kinds of sparkly little non-essentials that teenage girls like. Had never been in trouble prior, straight A student, band, chorus, etc. We got stopped on the way out. Charming. After the whole arrest, released to my custody (thank goodness there were cameras so they knew I wasn't in on it and she *could* be released to me), and arrangement for intervention classes as opposed to having a record, we had a very fun (not) conversation. Her dalliance into retail theft had started the night prior in the same mall, where we walked to next. Asked the manager in a very loud voice, "My daughter came in here with friends last night and stole some items. . . . I need her to pick out what she stole so you can scan it and I can pay for it now." She paid that back in yard work, and paid back her debt to society cleaning toilets at a nearby children's center. Slate wiped clean, lesson learned, and went on to a very good career.

Morale is, kids are going to do the least thing that you'd ever expect them to. Try to plan for it, drive yourself insane.


I believe you meant to say 'moral'?
 
2013-07-08 12:23:19 PM  

bratface: TaylorSalad: IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children

No, Trolly McTrollsome, it's something I also had to explain to my husband. After a particularly rough week, I said it as simply as I could. "Kids will always do the thing you'd never ever contemplate that they would." Always. You can't prepare for it (as in your idea of beating it into them ahead of this time) because they're completely unpredictable little human beings.

Case in point. Same week, but the weekend. Had to take my son for an eye appointment at a major retailer, and older sis tagged along. While I was dealing with son, she was filling her purse with all kinds of sparkly little non-essentials that teenage girls like. Had never been in trouble prior, straight A student, band, chorus, etc. We got stopped on the way out. Charming. After the whole arrest, released to my custody (thank goodness there were cameras so they knew I wasn't in on it and she *could* be released to me), and arrangement for intervention classes as opposed to having a record, we had a very fun (not) conversation. Her dalliance into retail theft had started the night prior in the same mall, where we walked to next. Asked the manager in a very loud voice, "My daughter came in here with friends last night and stole some items. . . . I need her to pick out what she stole so you can scan it and I can pay for it now." She paid that back in yard work, and paid back her debt to society cleaning toilets at a nearby children's center. Slate wiped clean, lesson learned, and went on to a very good career.

Morale is, kids are going to do the least thing that you'd ever expect them to. Try to plan for it, drive yourself insane.

I believe you meant to say 'moral'?


Cool! You're the winner of catching the typo I hid in there. You get a cookie and a McDonald's toy circa 1993.
 
2013-07-08 12:34:58 PM  

Lady Indica: You may resume name calling.


OK, racist.
 
2013-07-08 12:55:01 PM  

Lady Indica: I was being snarky about the assumption beforehand, I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand. After reading that article...if it's accurate...it's obvious they're white. And stupid. Because both the parent and the adult child are ignorant of an arrest, let alone conviction, will fark up your life. And the mom wanted them to call the cops on her kid, which the victim had to talk out of/explain what that would mean.

We live in a country where LeVar Burton has to teach his kids how not to be killed by the police. http://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/levar_burton_explains_how_not_to_be_ki lled_by_police/

So...obvious.

That's my reasoning. You may resume name calling and word searches or whatever.


Obviously only white children can be apologetic and remorseful, right?  And only white parents worry about the consequences of breaking the law for their kids, right?  You are a racist, albeit an apologetic one.
 
2013-07-08 01:05:42 PM  

TaylorSalad: bratface: TaylorSalad: IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children

No, Trolly McTrollsome, it's something I also had to explain to my husband. After a particularly rough week, I said it as simply as I could. "Kids will always do the thing you'd never ever contemplate that they would." Always. You can't prepare for it (as in your idea of beating it into them ahead of this time) because they're completely unpredictable little human beings.

Case in point. Same week, but the weekend. Had to take my son for an eye appointment at a major retailer, and older sis tagged along. While I was dealing with son, she was filling her purse with all kinds of sparkly little non-essentials that teenage girls like. Had never been in trouble prior, straight A student, band, chorus, etc. We got stopped on the way out. Charming. After the whole arrest, released to my custody (thank goodness there were cameras so they knew I wasn't in on it and she *could* be released to me), and arrangement for intervention classes as opposed to having a record, we had a very fun (not) conversation. Her dalliance into retail theft had started the night prior in the same mall, where we walked to next. Asked the manager in a very loud voice, "My daughter came in here with friends last night and stole some items. . . . I need her to pick out what she stole so you can scan it and I can pay for it now." She paid that back in yard work, and paid back her debt to society cleaning toilets at a nearby children's center. Slate wiped clean, lesson learned, and went on to a very good career.

Morale is, kids are going to do the least thing that you'd ever expect them to. Try to plan for it, drive yourself insane.

I believe you meant to say 'moral'?

Cool! You're the winner of catching the typo I hid in there. You get a cookie and a McDonald's toy circa 1993.



Which one?
 
2013-07-08 01:44:57 PM  

bratface: TaylorSalad: bratface: TaylorSalad: IdBeCrazyIf: D: Beat their asses because their parents failed as humans in beating discipline into their children

No, Trolly McTrollsome, it's something I also had to explain to my husband. After a particularly rough week, I said it as simply as I could. "Kids will always do the thing you'd never ever contemplate that they would." Always. You can't prepare for it (as in your idea of beating it into them ahead of this time) because they're completely unpredictable little human beings.

Case in point. Same week, but the weekend. Had to take my son for an eye appointment at a major retailer, and older sis tagged along. While I was dealing with son, she was filling her purse with all kinds of sparkly little non-essentials that teenage girls like. Had never been in trouble prior, straight A student, band, chorus, etc. We got stopped on the way out. Charming. After the whole arrest, released to my custody (thank goodness there were cameras so they knew I wasn't in on it and she *could* be released to me), and arrangement for intervention classes as opposed to having a record, we had a very fun (not) conversation. Her dalliance into retail theft had started the night prior in the same mall, where we walked to next. Asked the manager in a very loud voice, "My daughter came in here with friends last night and stole some items. . . . I need her to pick out what she stole so you can scan it and I can pay for it now." She paid that back in yard work, and paid back her debt to society cleaning toilets at a nearby children's center. Slate wiped clean, lesson learned, and went on to a very good career.

Morale is, kids are going to do the least thing that you'd ever expect them to. Try to plan for it, drive yourself insane.

I believe you meant to say 'moral'?

Cool! You're the winner of catching the typo I hid in there. You get a cookie and a McDonald's toy circa 1993.


Which one?


A broken one with no redeeming resale value.
 
2013-07-08 04:38:42 PM  
Bullshiat. Beat them with Louisville Sluggers
 
2013-07-08 04:56:49 PM  
Hubby is a moron for bringing up a misdemeanor on all his applications.
 
2013-07-08 06:52:33 PM  

puddleonfire: Spanky McStupid:

In before other spelling Nazi's. Nazis


Ha ha ha ha ha!  Awesome catch!  Excuse me while I facepalm.
 
2013-07-08 06:54:02 PM  
Turning them loose wasn't too smart.  But it won't matter in the long run.  These kids will get caught again.
 
2013-07-08 08:41:12 PM  
The cops are going to arrest the guy for not turning over evidence in a crime. No good deed goes unpunished.

/But that was really cool.
 
2013-07-08 11:03:16 PM  

TwoBeersOneCan: Lady Indica: I was being snarky about the assumption beforehand, I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand. After reading that article...if it's accurate...it's obvious they're white. And stupid. Because both the parent and the adult child are ignorant of an arrest, let alone conviction, will fark up your life. And the mom wanted them to call the cops on her kid, which the victim had to talk out of/explain what that would mean.

We live in a country where LeVar Burton has to teach his kids how not to be killed by the police. http://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/levar_burton_explains_how_not_to_be_ki lled_by_police/

So...obvious.

That's my reasoning. You may resume name calling and word searches or whatever.

Obviously only white children can be apologetic and remorseful, right?  And only white parents worry about the consequences of breaking the law for their kids, right?  You are a racist, albeit an apologetic one.


You have extremely piss poor reading comprehension. I never said the first, nor implied it. That's completely made up...but it's not the first time said. So that makes me wonder what biases you may have there. But I'm not wondering too much. The second is not only NOT what I said, but it's close to the opposite of what I said.

It's like a drunken strawman lighting itself on fire in a boozy haze or some shiat. Jeeeezus.
 
2013-07-09 06:52:58 PM  

Lady Indica: TwoBeersOneCan: Lady Indica: I was being snarky about the assumption beforehand, I didn't actually have an assumption beforehand. After reading that article...if it's accurate...it's obvious they're white. And stupid. Because both the parent and the adult child are ignorant of an arrest, let alone conviction, will fark up your life. And the mom wanted them to call the cops on her kid, which the victim had to talk out of/explain what that would mean.

We live in a country where LeVar Burton has to teach his kids how not to be killed by the police. http://www.salon.com/2013/07/02/levar_burton_explains_how_not_to_be_ki lled_by_police/

So...obvious.

That's my reasoning. You may resume name calling and word searches or whatever.

Obviously only white children can be apologetic and remorseful, right?  And only white parents worry about the consequences of breaking the law for their kids, right?  You are a racist, albeit an apologetic one.

You have extremely piss poor reading comprehension. I never said the first, nor implied it. That's completely made up...but it's not the first time said. So that makes me wonder what biases you may have there. But I'm not wondering too much. The second is not only NOT what I said, but it's close to the opposite of what I said.

It's like a drunken strawman lighting itself on fire in a boozy haze or some shiat. Jeeeezus.


Ha ha, I feel bad for you.  You've already stated that you KNEW they were white because of the behavior described in the article, and then you tried to pretend you made no assumptions.  And now you continue to pretend you made no assumptions.  Classic apologetic racist, although I'm beginning to doubt the apologetic part.
 
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