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(USA Today)   Orioles' Manny Machado might have made the defensive play of the year (w/video)   (ftw.usatoday.com) divider line 46
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2013-07-07 07:22:56 PM
www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com
Is pretty impressed.
 
2013-07-07 07:27:18 PM
If he had fielded it cleanly to begin with...
 
2013-07-07 07:37:32 PM

Gecko Gingrich: If he had fielded it cleanly to begin with...


Yeah, more like an outstanding recovery than an outstanding play.  It is an extremely impressive athletic display nonetheless.
 
2013-07-07 08:20:48 PM

Hoban Washburne: Gecko Gingrich: If he had fielded it cleanly to begin with...

Yeah, more like an outstanding recovery than an outstanding play.  It is an extremely impressive athletic display nonetheless.


Came here to say something along those lines. Hell of an arm, but if he fields it cleanly it's just a good defensive play that makes ESPN in the morning.
 
2013-07-07 09:01:46 PM

Principal Clarinet: Is pretty impressed.


Exactly what came to my mind. Thank you.
 
2013-07-07 10:20:38 PM
Was that Sid Bream at bat?
 
2013-07-07 11:37:36 PM
I was watching the game on TV and jumped out of my chair when I saw the play, knocking over my beer and bowl of salsa.  The look on Cruz's face was priceless; he's not a slow runner, either, and appeared to be running hard from the box.  That Machado could make that throw while basically going the opposite direction and near his dugout is just insane.
 
2013-07-07 11:39:47 PM
Where in the hell did the runner go that he couldn't beat that out?
 
2013-07-07 11:46:32 PM
As a long-suffering O's fan I love this team so much. If only they had some starting pitching...
 
2013-07-07 11:48:56 PM

gameshowhost: Was that Sid Bream at bat?


This.

Or maybe Bengie Molina.
 
2013-07-08 12:13:04 AM

balki1867: As a long-suffering O's fan I love this team so much. If only they had some starting pitching...


The starting pitching aren't the ones who have blown the last few games.
 
2013-07-08 12:14:13 AM

balki1867: As a long-suffering O's fan I love this team so much. If only they had some starting pitching...


Wonder what's going to happen before the trade deadline. Even though they aren't in first, I feel they know they should make that effort.
 
2013-07-08 12:16:47 AM

nein: I was watching the game on TV and jumped out of my chair when I saw the play, knocking over my beer and bowl of salsa.  The look on Cruz's face was priceless; he's not a slow runner, either, and appeared to be running hard from the box.  That Machado could make that throw while basically going the opposite direction and near his dugout is just insane.


Especially for just hitting the majors last year, he plays much better than he should.
 
2013-07-08 12:18:31 AM

thecpt: balki1867: As a long-suffering O's fan I love this team so much. If only they had some starting pitching...

Wonder what's going to happen before the trade deadline. Even though they aren't in first, I feel they know they should make that effort.


They already traded Arrieta and Strop, I'm not sure if they'll make too many more moves.  Chen is coming back and the starting rotation is already crowded without him

Britton
Hammel
Gausmen
Chen
Gonzalez
Tillman
Feldman
 
2013-07-08 12:36:01 AM
I was at the game near 3b. Easily the best play I've seen live.

/csb
//friend i was with caught a foul ball
///csb x2!
 
2013-07-08 12:51:46 AM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18t5s1v82ej95gif/ku-medium.gif
 
2013-07-08 12:55:25 AM
That's a .gif of brooks Robinson from the 1970 WS and Manny. Pretty awesome similarities.

Linking it from my phone sucks.... Or maybe its operator error.

Probably the latter
 
2013-07-08 01:07:26 AM
Was that Bill Dickey running that out.


/outstanding play.
 
2013-07-08 01:13:11 AM
I was wearing my Machado jersey today.  Clearly that inspired him on.
 
2013-07-08 01:47:40 AM
I never thought we'd see another Brooks Robinson, on the Orioles nonetheless, but if Manny Machado is making plays like this and the fake throw against the Rays from last year, it appears we have another Human Vacuum in the MLB. Good on ya, kid.
 
2013-07-08 04:08:57 AM
Dear Brewers,

THIS is what a 3rd basement looks like. The throw isn't "everywhere but the glove". Please look to it.
 
2013-07-08 04:10:36 AM
Not that impressed.  Great recovery, but shiat stop.
 
2013-07-08 05:28:41 AM

Gecko Gingrich: If he had fielded it cleanly to begin with...


Plucking up a sharp grounder at foot level, on the backhand & across your body, is not exactly an easy play.  Quite a few third basemen don't even get close enough to touch that ball.
 
2013-07-08 06:15:57 AM
The kid has skills.  hits a lot of doubles too.
 
2013-07-08 06:21:49 AM
A bit of luck never hurts, either
 
2013-07-08 06:50:03 AM
Good? Yes.
Outstanding? Meh
POTY? Get the fark outta here.
 
2013-07-08 07:53:33 AM
Sure, it was a mistake that caused him to recover and all, but as GIF's always start slow on my laptop for some reason, I really thought I missed something the first time I saw it at buffering speed.  No, he really just kicked it into his hand or something.
 
2013-07-08 08:35:47 AM
Way to make a routine play look hard. Now high school kids everywhere are going to intentionally bobble groundballs so they can make the highlight reel
 
2013-07-08 08:38:47 AM

Harv72b: Gecko Gingrich: If he had fielded it cleanly to begin with...

Plucking up a sharp grounder at foot level, on the backhand & across your body, is not exactly an easy play.  Quite a few third basemen don't even get close enough to touch that ball.


Reminds me of a middlebrooks play earlier this year. Liner hit right at him then breaks down and away towards the line. Is initially scored as an error, but then buck Martinez says "whoever scored that as an error has never played a day of 3b in his life." Stopping those balls and preventing the double is sometimes the only positive thing you can do, let alone a Hail Mary for an out
 
2013-07-08 09:34:56 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Way to make a routine play look hard. Now high school kids everywhere are going to intentionally bobble groundballs so they can make the highlight reel


Just getting to a third base line shot from almost halfway to third isn't 'routine'. It's 'routinely' a double or at least a single with a quick outfielder.
 
2013-07-08 09:43:42 AM

Deneb81: HaywoodJablonski: Way to make a routine play look hard. Now high school kids everywhere are going to intentionally bobble groundballs so they can make the highlight reel

Just getting to a third base line shot from almost halfway to third isn't 'routine'. It's 'routinely' a double or at least a single with a quick outfielder.


This. The fact that he got a glove on that ball is really impressive all by itself
 
2013-07-08 09:55:07 AM

Lionel Mandrake: gameshowhost: Was that Sid Bream at bat?

This.  Or maybe Bengie Molina.


Luis Cruz.  Random no-bat utility infielder who is not especially fast.   Basically the modern Luis Sojo.  Career minor league OBP of .295 with little power, despite playing a couple hundred games in the ridiculously hitter-friendly PCL.  He has somehow gotten playing time on both the Dodgers ($217M) and Yankees ($228M) this year, as world continues to try to figure out how the Yankees are 8 games over .500 while fielding lineups like the one from both games this weekend:

Gardner - CF
Ichiro - RF
Cano - 2B
Hafner - DH
Almonte - LF
Overbay - 1B
Cruz - 3B
Nunez - SS
Stewart - C
 
2013-07-08 09:56:43 AM
Machado is one hell of a 3rd baseman - for a shortstop. This team is fun to watch. I think we'll see them in the post season once more. For that to happen, (among other things) Brian Roberts needs to get injured again (soon!), go back to roberting Mrs. Roberts, and open up 2nd base for Flaherty/Casilla. Leave Reimold on the bench, too - I'm sure we can find a better DH...anywhere.

/Go O's!!
 
2013-07-08 10:53:20 AM

Slayinit: Machado is one hell of a 3rd baseman - for a shortstop. This team is fun to watch. I think we'll see them in the post season once more. For that to happen, (among other things) Brian Roberts needs to get injured again (soon!), go back to roberting Mrs. Roberts, and open up 2nd base for Flaherty/Casilla. Leave Reimold on the bench, too - I'm sure we can find a better DH...anywhere.

/Go O's!!


Hammerin' Hank Urrutia?
 
2013-07-08 12:23:26 PM
Machado has an absurd number of doubles this year.
 
2013-07-08 12:35:31 PM

thecpt: balki1867: As a long-suffering O's fan I love this team so much. If only they had some starting pitching...

Wonder what's going to happen before the trade deadline. Even though they aren't in first, I feel they know they should make that effort.


They will trade all of their talent away to the Yankee's and/or SF for a mismatched lineup/bullpen.  Why? because they are the Orioles.

/love Camden Yard's though.
 
2013-07-08 12:39:13 PM

SlothB77: Machado has an absurd number of doubles this year.


Huh.  I knew he had a bunch, but 39 doubles in 89 games is crazy.

The Orioles have 73 games left to play.  If Machado were to keep hitting doubles at his current pace (0.44/G), he'd finish with 71.  The all-time record is 67 (Earl Webb, 1931), and no one has hit 60 since 1936.

Breaking a 70+ year old record (for something useful... not "balks on a Sunday") as a 20-year-old would be pretty special.  Harper and Trout had all the preseason hype, and they're having excellent seasons (when healthy), but Machado is firmly in that class now.
 
2013-07-08 12:58:13 PM
If he'd picked it clean the transfer probably would have slowed him down enough to have missed the out. It's an amazing exhibit of his athleticism recovering from making an error.
 
2013-07-08 02:00:33 PM

SlothB77: Machado has an absurd number of doubles this year.


Once he grows into his frame, a lot of those will be homers.

I'm very much looking forward to then.
 
2013-07-08 03:14:08 PM

chimp_ninja: Harper and Trout had all the preseason hype, and they're having excellent seasons (when healthy), but Machado is firmly in that class now.


Machado's great, but he's not in Trout's or Harper's class yet.  He will be, or will get darn close, but he's not there yet.  Not until he starts drawing a few more walks and converting a few of those doubles into homers (keep in mind, Trout actually has more extra-base hits in FEWER games; he just has a lot fewer doubles because, well, he has a lot more triples and HRs).
 
2013-07-08 03:26:25 PM
I'm amazed how many people think this is a routine play.  Many great third basemen will miss that simply because it was hit so hard down the foul line.  In most cases, the infielder doesn't even touch the ball, let alone have to regain control and make the throw after knocking it down.  By all rights, that should've been a hit (if the throw wasn't made in time, there is no way it would've been counted as an error), but Manny Machado kept his head in the game and, given, may have had a little luck in making a throw he had no right in making, even on a team with the best fielding percentage in the majors.

Still, after all the hype around Mike Trout and Bryce Harper, I'm amazed that it has taken a potential record-setting pace on doubles for people to start paying attention to Manny Machado.  Apparently, the east coast bias does not apply to the Orioles.
 
2013-07-08 04:11:27 PM

nein: chimp_ninja: Harper and Trout had all the preseason hype, and they're having excellent seasons (when healthy), but Machado is firmly in that class now.

Machado's great, but he's not in Trout's or Harper's class yet.  He will be, or will get darn close, but he's not there yet.  Not until he starts drawing a few more walks and converting a few of those doubles into homers (keep in mind, Trout actually has more extra-base hits in FEWER games; he just has a lot fewer doubles because, well, he has a lot more triples and HRs).


The lack of plate discipline is certainly a concern-- the .341 OBP is good, but nothing to write home about.  (Harper: .375, Trout: .393)  That said, Machado looks like an astonishingly good defender both to the eye, and to the various advanced metrics:

2013 dWAR: +2.6 (2nd in MLB behind Andrelton Simmons)
2013 UZR: +15.8 (+26.5 UZR/150, 1st in MLB)
2013 FRAA: +17 (1st in MLB, 2nd place is Simmons and Parra at +15)

Harper and Trout are both good defenders, but Machado is the consensus pick for the best defender in all of baseball.  It doesn't quite make up the hitting gap, but it's narrower than the XBH count (etc.) would suggest.
 
2013-07-08 05:42:40 PM

chimp_ninja: nein: chimp_ninja: Harper and Trout had all the preseason hype, and they're having excellent seasons (when healthy), but Machado is firmly in that class now.

Machado's great, but he's not in Trout's or Harper's class yet.  He will be, or will get darn close, but he's not there yet.  Not until he starts drawing a few more walks and converting a few of those doubles into homers (keep in mind, Trout actually has more extra-base hits in FEWER games; he just has a lot fewer doubles because, well, he has a lot more triples and HRs).

The lack of plate discipline is certainly a concern-- the .341 OBP is good, but nothing to write home about.  (Harper: .375, Trout: .393)  That said, Machado looks like an astonishingly good defender both to the eye, and to the various advanced metrics:

2013 dWAR: +2.6 (2nd in MLB behind Andrelton Simmons)
2013 UZR: +15.8 (+26.5 UZR/150, 1st in MLB)
2013 FRAA: +17 (1st in MLB, 2nd place is Simmons and Parra at +15)

Harper and Trout are both good defenders, but Machado is the consensus pick for the best defender in all of baseball.  It doesn't quite make up the hitting gap, but it's narrower than the XBH count (etc.) would suggest.


I also think, in general, outfield positions are "easier" to play than 3b, ss, and second.  Plus Machado is playing a position, in MLB, that he had never played before.

Machado's dWAR is almost double the next third baseman in MLB, which is impressive.
 
2013-07-08 05:45:34 PM
Let's not forget this amazing play that even seasoned veterans had to bow down to;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i91Knpc4l9c
 
2013-07-08 06:17:50 PM

Principal Clarinet: Let's not forget this amazing play that even seasoned veterans had to bow down to;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i91Knpc4l9c


Great stuff, thanks for the link.
 
2013-07-08 07:01:16 PM
Broktun:

I also think, in general, outfield positions are "easier" to play than 3b, ss, and second.  Plus Machado is playing a position, in MLB, that he had never played before.

Machado's dWAR is almost double the next third baseman in MLB, which is impressive.



Machado's an unbelievable defender, there's no doubt about that.  He doesn't get extra credit in terms of value and productivity, though, for playing (extremely well) a position he'd barely played before.  He's just more impressive for doing so.
 
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