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2013-07-07 06:11:38 PM
I love how everyone involved in this is acting out of such pure good, and not at all transparent opportunism and politicking at every turn.
 
2013-07-07 06:30:01 PM
"Who is the guilty one? A young man ... who denounces war plans, or the U.S. government which launches bombs and arms the terrorist Syrian opposition against the people and legitimate President Bashar al-Assad?'' Maduro asked, to applause and cheers from military officers at a parade on Saturday.

*facepalm*
 
2013-07-07 06:59:42 PM
If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.
 
2013-07-07 06:59:59 PM
LOL ASYLUM COUPON
 
2013-07-07 07:39:17 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


While that's nice, I want documentary proof once and for all on who really killed JFK and if UFOs are real.
 
2013-07-07 07:55:15 PM

bluorangefyre: 4tehsnowflakes: thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice

While that's nice, I want documentary proof once and for all on who really killed JFK and if UFOs are real.


So, people who dare to call for accountability about domestic spying are lunatics and conspiracy theories.  Door, ass, etc.  There is really nothing left for our government to do but tell us all to get used to living in the Panopticon.
 
2013-07-07 07:56:07 PM
theories theorists
 
2013-07-07 08:22:24 PM

gameshowhost: LOL ASYLUM COUPON


If he gets one more stamp on his passport he gets a free footlong hoagie.

/Yes, I realize his passport has been revoked. Joke still works.
 
2013-07-07 08:32:11 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


Mrs. Snowden, is that you?
 
2013-07-07 08:46:55 PM
He can stay at my place. 
If he brings his hott girlfriend along ;)
 
2013-07-07 08:50:09 PM
OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?
 
2013-07-07 08:51:03 PM

quatchi: "Who is the guilty one? A young man ... who denounces war plans, or the U.S. government which launches bombs and arms the terrorist Syrian opposition against the people and legitimate President Bashar al-Assad?'' Maduro asked, to applause and cheers from military officers at a parade on Saturday.

*facepalm*


Oh, yeah, that'll help his image.
 
2013-07-07 08:52:13 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.
 
2013-07-07 08:57:21 PM

sendtodave: OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?


He and I have been in constant Telex contact. He has my WATTS number too.
 
2013-07-07 08:59:13 PM
And before the name calling starts of people calling me a "fascist" or whatever. I am against the Patriot act and the monitoring that the NSA is doing. But even though I don't like it doesn't mean I am going to pretend he didn't break the law. Or try to pretend Snowden gave some earth shattering revelations of illegal activity.

The problem is what the government is doing now has been made legal. But turning it into some crazed government-paranoia rant won't help your cause. People will just ignore what you are saying and think you're a loon.
 
2013-07-07 09:01:32 PM

Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.


Finally cogent analysis , instead of people flapping about in a paranoid tailspin .
 
2013-07-07 09:08:42 PM

sithon: Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.

Finally cogent analysis , instead of people flapping about in a paranoid tailspin .


Coherent and logical discussuon in a rational manner doesnt creaye ratings surge for moar $$$ from ad revenue.

That is why not a single news agency will rationally adress it.

Sad as that is, the public eats up the whargarble begging for moar as bits are drooling out of the corner of tbeir mouths onto their laps.
 
2013-07-07 09:10:38 PM

Katolu: sendtodave: OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?

He and I have been in constant Telex contact. He has my WATTS number too.


WAT?
 
2013-07-07 09:26:40 PM

DORMAMU: sithon: Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.

Finally cogent analysis , instead of people flapping about in a paranoid tailspin .

Coherent and logical discussuon in a rational manner doesnt creaye ratings surge for moar $$$ from ad revenue.

That is why not a single news agency will rationally adress it.

Sad as that is, the public eats up the whargarble begging for moar as bits are drooling out of the corne ...


That's because the news networks from whence the general public eats up the wharrgarbl are no longer (or in the case of Fox News, never were) in the business of reporting news, they're in the business of selling News-Entertainment.

If you're at all familiar with the phrase "bread and circuses," then you'll understand that the News-Entertainment industry is one of the many circuses.
 
2013-07-07 09:37:30 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


If you think that anything you do or say is in anyway noticed by the US government you are one of the egotistical fools like the people that think what they post on Yahoo caused them to get audited by the IRS.

Paranoia is an ego trip.
 
2013-07-07 09:39:07 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


Or, you could just have paid attention when it was announced the first time when the Patriot act was put into place but maybe you were too young to know what was happening? If you are about Snowden's age that would make some sense. I dont know too many teenagers that really understood the fine points of the Patriot Act at the time. Nor why a bunch of old geezer libs were having fits about it.

I wonder how Snowden feels realizing he threw away his life and his hot GF for information that was poli tab fodder here on Fark while he was in High School.
 
2013-07-07 09:43:36 PM
Well somebody got to them. The NSA, amirite?
They sent their Economic Development Squad in.
 
2013-07-07 09:58:34 PM
In case anyone ever sort of wondered what it would take for the planet's intelligence agencies to go researching your online pornography viewing habits...
 
2013-07-07 09:59:58 PM

whidbey: Well somebody got to them. The NSA, amirite?
They sent their Economic Development Squad in.




They hate our guts. This is probably some internal bureaucratic debacle.

Snowden's problem is he's relatively safe until he cashes in his chips for whichever final destination. From there the US will no doubt try any number of tricks to snag him in route or kill\capture him on the ground. He'd also be living at the whim of whoever signs his papers.
So if the political situation changes, or the US buys out that government, Snowden's done for. South American governments aren't known for their stability.

I think he's achieved as much as he could have hoped for with his actions, the question is how will he survive in the long haul and not become the punchline to "what happens when people FARK with American politicians".
Things like this are why he probably won't jump to hastily made offers of refuge.
 
2013-07-07 10:07:28 PM

sendtodave: Katolu: sendtodave: OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?

He and I have been in constant Telex contact. He has my WATTS number too.

WAT?


lajassoc.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-07 10:08:23 PM
So an attention whore, who got brainwashed by a bigger attention whore are being played by attention whoring leaders. That's a lot of dicks for you pro-snowden farkers to please.
 
2013-07-07 10:10:16 PM

4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.


If he stopped at that, fine.  But you can't possibly say that it was cool when he turned over sensitive, classified information about legitimate espionage activities against foreign nations timed exactly when the President was meeting with the foreign nation in question.
 
2013-07-07 10:13:17 PM

Corvus: This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation.


If everyone already knew this stuff, why are we having this conversation now, and not years ago?

I mean, I keep hearing that everybody knew this already, so, uh why is it a big deal now?  Because the president is blah?  That's a theory.  But, then why are civil libertarian lefties pissed, too?

What could have occurred recently that brought this issue to widespread attention and outrage?

He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.

Oh, yeah, that.
 
2013-07-07 10:16:32 PM

meanmutton: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

If he stopped at that, fine.  But you can't possibly say that it was cool when he turned over sensitive, classified information about legitimate espionage activities against foreign nations timed exactly when the President was meeting with the foreign nation in question.


Dude.

It was a powerpoint.

You know, the thing that people use to try to make technical things make sense to middle managers.
 
2013-07-07 10:18:38 PM

way south: Things like this are why he probably won't jump to hastily made offers of refuge.


But he has to act now!  This is a limited time offer, and Venezuelans are standing by! Time is running out!

Act now!
 
2013-07-07 10:19:06 PM

quatchi: gameshowhost: LOL ASYLUM COUPON

If he gets one more stamp on his passport he gets a free footlong hoagie.

/Yes, I realize his passport has been revoked. Joke still works.


The word "hoagie" is funny in its own right.
 
2013-07-07 10:25:54 PM
Edward Snowden is dead.

He hasn't left the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport because he's on a slab in a bodybag. Statements "from" him "via" Wikileaks have in fact originated from Wikileaks itself. Coincidentally, that's also why he's not responding to asylum offers from South American countries, and why he hasn't been seen by anyone since his arrival in Moscow. Behind the scenes, the Russians are shiatting themselves, and trying to figure out the best way to spin it.
 
2013-07-07 10:27:55 PM
Snowden is a Paultard, a LOLibertarian and had no problem with any of this until 2008. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

He also didn't like Switzerland.

Christ, what an asshole
 
2013-07-07 10:28:27 PM

sendtodave: Corvus: This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation.

If everyone already knew this stuff, why are we having this conversation now, and not years ago?

I mean, I keep hearing that everybody knew this already, so, uh why is it a big deal now?  Because the president is blah?  That's a theory.  But, then why are civil libertarian lefties pissed, too?

What could have occurred recently that brought this issue to widespread attention and outrage?

He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.

Oh, yeah, that.


The conversations were held years ago. The opponents of the Patriot Act were drowned out by the right wing boot lickers screaming "traitor".
 
2013-07-07 10:30:11 PM

max_pooper: The conversations were held years ago. The opponents of the Patriot Act were drowned out by the right wing boot lickers screaming "traitor".


OK, well, now that we have them on board, we can finally move forward!  I mean, it makes no sense to be spiteful assholes about it, just because we don't want to agree with people that we don't like, right guys?

Guys?
 
2013-07-07 10:38:57 PM

Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.




Warrant? Where have you been? The NSA does not need a warrant to wiretap all cell phones and collect all emails. The FISS Court ruled that warrants are not required anymore.

Now the Brazilians just found out the NSA has been collected all of their emails and phone calls. And that's a lot of phone calls.
 
2013-07-07 10:44:49 PM

Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.


While he did screech at the press loudly and out of paranoia, what he said has been confirmed by congress and other concerned parties though very few have parsed it correctly. The NSA has the ability to read your emails, listen to your phone calls, and track you online without a warrant. The warrant is a technical and procedural approval to gather/use the info, but its not a technological barrier that keeps them from spying on citizens. There would have to be enough bureaucratic controls in place to stop that sort of thing (like the law that kept me from just perusing Beyonce's tax records when I worked at the IRS). There is that regulation in which they have to destroy any info gathered on American citizens, but that has numerous exceptions and its still not a barrier to them viewing the records of a citizen. Snowden says there's not much like that in place anyway and so do members of congress. There's also no law in place to limit this tech to terrorism. I mean this message isn't the sky falling pic that Snowden necessarily paints, but it's bad all the same.
 
2013-07-07 11:00:33 PM

King Something: DORMAMU: sithon: Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.

Finally cogent analysis , instead of people flapping about in a paranoid tailspin .

Coherent and logical discussuon in a rational manner doesnt creaye ratings surge for moar $$$ from ad revenue.

That is why not a single news agency will rationally adress it.

Sad as that is, the public eats up the whargarble begging for moar as bits are drooling out of ...


YOU HAVE MEDDLED WITH THE PRIMAL FORCES OF NATURE, MR. BEALE SNOWDEN, AND I WON'T HAVE IT!
 
2013-07-07 11:12:02 PM

HempHead: Now the Brazilians just found out the NSA has been collected all of their emails and phone calls. And that's a lot of phone calls.


How many are in a brazilian?
 
2013-07-07 11:14:44 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: HempHead: Now the Brazilians just found out the NSA has been collected all of their emails and phone calls. And that's a lot of phone calls.

How many are in a brazilian?


Zero, its a completely blank slate.
 
2013-07-07 11:19:06 PM

max_pooper: Adolf Oliver Nipples: HempHead: Now the Brazilians just found out the NSA has been collected all of their emails and phone calls. And that's a lot of phone calls.

How many are in a brazilian?

Zero, its a completely blank slate.


Smooth joke, there.
 
2013-07-07 11:37:28 PM

sendtodave: OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?


Be funny if his phone ran out of minutes.
 
2013-07-07 11:38:16 PM
sithon: Corvus: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

As in first misleading the press (when he said anyone had access to private conversation of all US citizens and implied they didn't have to go through FISA courts to access it) or by  what they were doing and then having evidence of only things that we already known about?

This is the problem with this every one is saying "OMG we found out how the US was spying for the first time" but when I go to these threads no one is sure what those details actually are. Some disagree on what he said, or someone links me to an article about the Patriot Act that we already knew existed without Snowden.


This who thing is a sort Rorschach test for people who where paranoid against the US government believing he has backed up and released everything they believed without really understanding what he has said or not has said and what we already knew before then.

We knew program like PRISM had already existed. We know the NSA  had capabilities to listen on private US conversations (with a warrant) whenever they wanted. None of the things Snowden brought up is a big revelation. He just did 2 things, made a big story about it, and broke the law by giving details on the program.


Finally cogent analysis , instead of people flapping about in a paranoid tailspin .


Ah yes, the smugness of ignorance. Power is so much more comfortable to deal with when you can trust someone else to wield it for you, preferably away from your sight. You're on the "right" side of the barrel so biggie....

for today, citizen, for today.
 
2013-07-07 11:38:44 PM

sendtodave: max_pooper: Adolf Oliver Nipples: HempHead: Now the Brazilians just found out the NSA has been collected all of their emails and phone calls. And that's a lot of phone calls.

How many are in a brazilian?

Zero, its a completely blank slate.

Smooth joke, there.


Well done, sirs.
 
2013-07-07 11:41:36 PM

BarkingUnicorn: sendtodave: OK, that is funny.

So, uh, thinking about it, does Snowden have any way to contact anyone?

Is he still in the Moscow airport?  Was he ever confirmed to be?

Be funny if his phone ran out of minutes.


Aaah, is funny because the NSA tracks everyone's phone calls!

Maybe the Moscow airport doesn't have any secure Internet cafes?
 
2013-07-07 11:50:17 PM
4TH AMENDMENT
 
2013-07-08 12:02:09 AM
The anti-Snowdens seem to oscillate back-and-forth between contradictory "It's all lies" and "Everyone already know it anyway"  positions.

These anti-Snowdens are morons, in fact. The American public, in general, most certainly did NOT already know this information (which has been essentially confirmed as true). And since this spying directly pertains to our personal, private communications, Snowden had a moral obligation to inform us.

Ultimately, this has nothing to do with Snowden himself. Anyone who focuses on him, his flaws, his personal motivations, etc are weak-minded morons. The only thing of relevance is the information he correctly and justifiably revealed.
 
2013-07-08 12:16:55 AM

IamTomJoad: 4tehsnowflakes: If I were not terrified that the feds might read this and label me a dangerous dissident, I'd step up and say that as a US citizen and patriot, I hope he gets safe someplace politically less awful than Venezuela.  I'd also thank him for making the ultimate sacrifice by violating the law and going into exile so little people like you and I could have documentary proof that domestic spying is out of control in the US.

If you think that anything you do or say is in anyway noticed by the US government you are one of the egotistical fools like the people that think what they post on Yahoo caused them to get audited by the IRS.

Paranoia is an ego trip.


The outrage at the unwarranted tapping of all communication isn't a fear that the information will be read by the government, it's that the information is being collected in the first place. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW, AND VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION AND ALL THE PRINCIPLES OF A FREE SOCIETY.
 
2013-07-08 12:25:30 AM
Edward Snowden is Sacha Baron Cohen's most humorless character ever. Athough, the physical transformation is impressive.
 
2013-07-08 12:28:06 AM

HempHead: Warrant? Where have you been? The NSA does not need a warrant to wiretap all cell phones and collect all emails. The FISS Court ruled that warrants are not required anymore.


Odd - SNOWDEN said they need wiretaps. And he's an infallible truth-teller.
 
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