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2013-07-07 07:21:00 PM
4 votes:
Oh my god!!! People are doing something that has been done for hundreds of years... everybody panic!!!

OMG they're making cartridges too!!! They're doing something that has been done for a hundred and fiftyish years... everybody panic... more!!!
2013-07-07 07:10:10 PM
4 votes:
Fears of government tightening of gun and ammunition controls

the scarcity of ready-made bullets has frustrated shooters to the point they're spending between $200 and $1,000 to get into the hobby known as "reloading."


Owning a gun shop just sounds like the most lucrative business you could have. The owners must all secretly vote democrat, they'd be idiots to do anything else.
2013-07-07 07:35:42 PM
2 votes:

Barfmaker: Fears of government tightening of gun and ammunition controls

the scarcity of ready-made bullets has frustrated shooters to the point they're spending between $200 and $1,000 to get into the hobby known as "reloading."

Owning a gun shop just sounds like the most lucrative business you could have. The owners must all secretly vote democrat, they'd be idiots to do anything else.


That and support the NRA, so Wayne can scare the suckers into stocking up every election year when a Democrat is poised to win.
2013-07-07 07:25:18 PM
2 votes:

sentex: Sad when the author doesn't know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge.


No kidding, I came here to read about scrounging lead wheel weights & having a smelter out in the garage & this dufus is talking about the entire package.  I really was interested in hearing about how he could jacket his bullets or if not then what he was doing about lead fouling.

/much of the ammo 'shortage' is due to the decade long war that we've been stuck in.
//ammo companies tend to first fill the orders from the guys who give them permits to operate & also buy by the trainload
///any ammo/component manufacturer who hasn't been running 3 shifts for the past few years is missing out on some serious money
2013-07-08 06:02:25 AM
1 votes:

zerkalo: wildcardjack: [www.phossil.com image 350x500]

But let's not talk about the the fine, upstanding men who have undertaken field tests of various firearms. Those who have demonstrated their ease of use, magazine capacity, quick reloading time, and grievous bodily harm.


Exactly!  Bless you boys!

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2013-07-07 11:55:51 PM
1 votes:

knbwhite: HotWingAgenda: This is an article written by the NRA to tell its members that ammunition is super expense and hard to find due to manufacturing shortages, and its obvious intent is to get more people to stock up, since ammo is going to be so hard to find. Did you get to the part of the article where a guy that owns an ammo factory claimed he has so many customers his phones got overloaded and crashed? Motherf*cker, please.

That guy was from Dillon, a company that makes the machines called reloading presses that one uses to assemble the components.  They are not an ammo company.

Those of us who shoot are well aware of the availability of ammo and reloading components.  There are people who compete in sporting competitions and leagues for recreation that go through a fair bit of ammo for practice, and we don't need the NRA or NPR to get the word out on the shortages.   You probably run in to us around your neighborhood.

Even though they downplayed it in the media, there is a great olympic champion you should be aware of.  Google Kim Rhode sometime.


Bingo... I burn through around 3k rounds per month just staying in shape (mostly .45 ACP, 5.56 and 7.62X51).  Primers and certain types of powder are becoming really hard to find.

/Primers are starting to come back on line
//Powder doesn't seem to be much better yet.
2013-07-07 11:52:50 PM
1 votes:
I need a couple of 5,000 bricks of small and large pistol primers.  The panic buying can't stop soon enough.  It has been going on for like 4 years now.  when you shoot 10-15,000 rounds a year this shortage is really frustrating.

One would think that there is a market saturation point and we passed it long ago.  That or like the article says...it is a really big bubble about to pop.

I remember in the early 90's before AWB it did the same, and the prices DID come down.  Same thing in the mid 80's machine gun grandfathering.
2013-07-07 11:27:37 PM
1 votes:

Triptolemus: next time you have to buy, remind them that disposal costs money and you'll take them for free


That's the thing: apparently none of the shops around here are paying to dispose of lead.  The only reason I was able to get the lead from that one shop was because I out-bid their regular guy.
2013-07-07 11:21:11 PM
1 votes:

Fish in a Barrel: I tried my hand at casting bullets, but it was just too much work.  And it was ridiculously hard to find a shop that would let me buy their wheel weights.  All the corporate places have recycling programs and they can't divert the metal.  I eventually found an independent shop where I could buy them... for $1/lb.

I've still got about 800 230gr .452" bullets that need to be sized and lubed, and about 30lbs in ingots.  Things will have to get really desperate before I tackle that.  At least the ingots are useful for scuba diving.


Yeah, you have to be dedicated, but my friend and I knock them out in large batches, and we're in a small town with several tire shops that are happy to have us dispose of their old weights.  Not sure I'd pay for them though- next time you have to buy, remind them that disposal costs money and you'll take them for free. . . .Anyway, yeah, that's quite a bit of lead- I think you have enough to last you a while.  And you have some great toxic door stops and paper weights in the meantime. . .
2013-07-07 11:11:23 PM
1 votes:

Triptolemus: Yeah, reloading is not the same as "making your own bullets."  Although more people are getting into cast lead bullets. . . We clean our local tireshops out of used wheel weights.  Next goal: making blackpowder.  Then I won't be paying the military industrial complex for all of those .50 and .54 caliber swaged lead balls, flints, and black powder. . .

/I do also reload modern rifle ammo
//I recently found some 165 gr. .30 caliber game king bullets at my local walmart after trying to find them everywhere. . . I squealed like a little girl.


I tried my hand at casting bullets, but it was just too much work.  And it was ridiculously hard to find a shop that would let me buy their wheel weights.  All the corporate places have recycling programs and they can't divert the metal.  I eventually found an independent shop where I could buy them... for $1/lb.

I've still got about 800 230gr .452" bullets that need to be sized and lubed, and about 30lbs in ingots.  Things will have to get really desperate before I tackle that.  At least the ingots are useful for scuba diving.
2013-07-07 11:11:05 PM
1 votes:

forgotmydamnusername: I don't know why components wouldn't be scarce too, if fully assembled factory ammo is hard to come by. It is, after all, made of the exact same parts.


They have been also.  Everything is starting to loosen up though.  The manufacturers have ramped up everywhere I think.  I bought shotgun shells made in France a while back, and Federal has been importing AR ammo from Israel and putting their name on it.
2013-07-07 10:07:12 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, reloading is not the same as "making your own bullets."  Although more people are getting into cast lead bullets. . . We clean our local tireshops out of used wheel weights.  Next goal: making blackpowder.  Then I won't be paying the military industrial complex for all of those .50 and .54 caliber swaged lead balls, flints, and black powder. . .

/I do also reload modern rifle ammo
//I recently found some 165 gr. .30 caliber game king bullets at my local walmart after trying to find them everywhere. . . I squealed like a little girl.
2013-07-07 09:24:31 PM
1 votes:
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I'm getting a kick out of all these replies. There is a perfect storm of commodity panic (brass, lead and copper being used in emerging markets in China and India), along with ammo panic due to fear mongering from outside industry pundits, some panic due to knee jerk laws like the news ones here in Colorado and a host of other factors. People are really really scared.

And really really dumb.

I believe the story of the guys at Dillon Precision having to purchase phones, its been a madhouse since SHOT Show in January.
2013-07-07 09:14:03 PM
1 votes:

CujoQuarrel: Is NPR really that clueless? .


No, they're not. This is an article written by the NRA to tell its members that ammunition is super expense and hard to find due to manufacturing shortages, and its obvious intent is to get more people to stock up, since ammo is going to be so hard to find. Did you get to the part of the article where a guy that owns an ammo factory claimed he has so many customers his phones got overloaded and crashed? Motherf*cker, please.
2013-07-07 08:23:02 PM
1 votes:
Better start reload in quick before 0bummer, the empty suit, expertly tricks a Congress that can't pass a farking budget, into taking away your gun rights!

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2013-07-07 06:42:25 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: [media.npr.org image 462x346]

So, if I want more than one, I can just open as many as I want, and you'll sell them to me?


That's how I'm reading it.
2013-07-07 06:37:48 PM
1 votes:
media.npr.org

So, if I want more than one, I can just open as many as I want, and you'll sell them to me?
2013-07-07 06:19:49 PM
1 votes:
Sad when the author doesn't know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge.
2013-07-07 06:04:12 PM
1 votes:
Rally round the family with a pocket full of home made shells?

Meh, everyone needs a hobby.
 
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