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2013-07-07 08:02:42 PM

DustBunny: I completely agree that there are over the top escalations by police and very heavy handed tactics, but what do you expect when your society seems to encourage everyone to be as heavily armed as possible?

Seems to me that the cops are just trying to stay ahead in an arms race...how are they supposed to know whether the poker game they're raiding has a few fat drunk middle aged men who are zero threat, or a few fat drunk middle aged men packing 45s and AR-15s with a shotgun or two behind the couch?


Except that they aren't kicking in the doors of some middle-aged teabagger gun nut, are they?
 
2013-07-07 08:04:23 PM

Shostie: nmemkha: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

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You know, I seriously can't stand eye rolling farks like you who think it's just so amusing when people get angry about what this country is becoming.  Like you're above being worried about living in a police state.  You suck.
 
2013-07-07 08:09:10 PM

fredklein: Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials

Just make it a solid wood door, and a few nice long bolts (make sure they are screwed into the actual frame with long and strong screws).

[www.thehardwarehut.com image 250x151]

Maybe line the inside of the door with a thick sheet of metal.

Of course, the most secure door in the world is useless if it's next to an open window, so you have to be sure to secure the other possible entries, too.


Anybody rich enough to afford pig-proof doors is rich enough to not have to worry about being the victim subject of a no-knock raid.
 
2013-07-07 08:09:40 PM

DustBunny: I completely agree that there are over the top escalations by police and very heavy handed tactics, but what do you expect when your society seems to encourage everyone to be as heavily armed as possible?

Seems to me that the cops are just trying to stay ahead in an arms race...how are they supposed to know whether the poker game they're raiding has a few fat drunk middle aged men who are zero threat, or a few fat drunk middle aged men packing 45s and AR-15s with a shotgun or two behind the couch?


The fact that they have gone over to the same place before, knocked and were politely let in to write the appropriate $100 ticket.

Or the fact that they befriended the suspect and focused in on some middle class nobody for months before popping him in the chest.

Or the fact they had full stakeout on a case where they were 'inspecting' for minor alcohol violations that should not have raised massive armed citizen population.

Or this fancy new thing called 'investigative policing' where you build a case and have a very good idea of what you are walking into.
 
2013-07-07 08:13:55 PM

Fiction Fan: All you idiots complaining about the police

But who will you want there if you are robbed, shot, mugged, in a car accident?


Morons.


Paramedics.
 
2013-07-07 08:14:02 PM

DustBunny: I completely agree that there are over the top escalations by police and very heavy handed tactics, but what do you expect when your society seems to encourage everyone to be as heavily armed as possible?

Seems to me that the cops are just trying to stay ahead in an arms race...how are they supposed to know whether the poker game they're raiding has a few fat drunk middle aged men who are zero threat, or a few fat drunk middle aged men packing 45s and AR-15s with a shotgun or two behind the couch?


It really doesn't matter, the point is that there is ZERO reason to be raiding a $20 buy in home poker game.  It wouldn't matter if they were armed or not or even if all of them were wearing suicide vests (except by perhaps the other players...) if the police didn't show up in the first place.  It is beyond an asinine waste of time & resources to conduct such raids on those evil pillars of the community.

/of course the police would much rather raid a poker game than go after an armed robber
//the armed robber might actually shoot at them, it's generally much safer to break in on accountants & dentists playing cards & doing nothing wrong other than describing their receptionist's butt & the things they'd like to do to it
///better things to seize through 'asset forfeiture' too
 
2013-07-07 08:15:28 PM

fredklein: Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials

Just make it a solid wood door, and a few nice long bolts (make sure they are screwed into the actual frame with long and strong screws).

[www.thehardwarehut.com image 250x151]

Maybe line the inside of the door with a thick sheet of metal.

Of course, the most secure door in the world is useless if it's next to an open window, so you have to be sure to secure the other possible entries, too.


Layered oak for asthetics, ballistic cloth, steel, insulation for the door.  A modified moment anchored to the footing.  Windows all with 3M or approved equal security film.  Plywood sheathing, fire resistant siding and defensive (i.e. thorny and/or difficult to maneuver through) landscaping.  All that combined with good lines of sight internally and the pigs are reduced to using an armored vehicle.  If I wanted to get even more exotic, the perimeter security uses a lesser version of the passive system used at all secure military installation gates.

It's really nothing more than many of the lesser secure facilities use.  It's enough to keep pretty much anybody out unless they bring up an armored vehicle.  All for the low low price of you can't afford it.  But it can be done.
 
2013-07-07 08:15:36 PM

kim jong-un: Fiction Fan: All you idiots complaining about the police

But who will you want there if you are robbed, shot, mugged, in a car accident?


Morons.

Paramedics.


You have to admin, having a police report is handy for the insurance paperwork.
 
2013-07-07 08:16:34 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: [farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x425]

The first frog to get out of the pot blah blah blah


What's stopping ya chief? Enlighten everyone...
 
2013-07-07 08:23:01 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


FYI, I assume you do not plan on having windows or any other openings that are large enough for a human body to pass?  I also suppose that your walls will be of similar or stronger construction to prevent them from just leaving the door alone?  At that point, why arent you just living in a bunker?

Hope you enjoy the mold due to a lack of fresh air....

If you are going to do it, look at the decommissioned Minuteman silos, a 3+ ton door minimizes ANY chance of a surprise entry.  Then again, so does the fact that living in one requires you to live in BFE nowhere.

/wont link the video of the SWAT team bashing on the apartment door.
 
2013-07-07 08:25:23 PM

pxlboy: Except that they aren't kicking in the doors of some middle-aged teabagger gun nut, are they?


How do they know? They can't exactly check the local gun registry can they...
 
2013-07-07 08:28:03 PM

DustBunny: How do they know?


Really? How does a police department that is charged with investigating crimes learn things about potential criminal targets? Really?
 
2013-07-07 08:32:13 PM

LordJiro: No, decades of increasingly-advanced police and military armor, weapons and tactics that far outclass any wannabe revolutionary's arsenal are making sure you can't do that.


This doesnt matter much when you are in a guerilla war against a force that doesn't want to bomb you.
Nobody is going to go EFF YEAHHHH. I just blew up main street....wwwwwwot!
 
2013-07-07 08:33:31 PM

dig420: You know, I seriously can't stand eye rolling farks like you who think it's just so amusing when people get angry about what this country is becoming. Like you're above being worried about living in a police state. You suck.


Are you sure it's the impotent rage he's amused by or the way it evaporates the moment celebrity gossip splashes across the headlines and the next reality TV show is announced?
 
2013-07-07 08:35:49 PM

skozlaw: Really? How does a police department that is charged with investigating crimes learn things about potential criminal targets? Really?


So Americans do everything they can to prevent the govt knowing what guns they might have purchased or acquired (with the subtext being that if they don't know if you've got them they have to assume you've got them so they can't oppress you), then complain when it's hard to find out what guns someone might have purchased or acquired and the cops have to assume you've got them?

The whole uber-militarised police thing is a logical extension of the whole semi-militarised society that a lot of people seem to think they want, ie everyone should have a firearm to launch a revolution or resist the govt at the drop of a hat.

Would cops having to out-gun the populace be considered and unintended consequence?
 
2013-07-07 08:43:23 PM

Babwa Wawa: I come from a long line of civil servants - police and teachers, in fact.  The compensation for both can be quite good, or it can be quite bad.  Teachers in my town have media pay of about $70k.


Well no wonder so many municipalities are going broke.
 
2013-07-07 08:46:33 PM

d23: I think you must underestimate how "bread and circuses" television is manipulating the knowledge on the ground in the U.S.   There is no left or right bias, there is a pro-corporate bias in the U.S. media.  Certain items never get discussed.  Have you ever heard a fair discussion of corporate personhood in the commercial media?  How about even a discussion about Internet downloading where the downloaders aren't labeled "pirates" from the very start?


Well, we could call them gypsies, tramps, and thieves if you like, rather than pirates.
 
2013-07-07 10:02:37 PM
Here in Flint, Michigan, not that long ago, an off duty cop was working as security for a private club where they did nothing but play Texas Hold-em. When some asshat tried to rob the place with a shotgun, the cop shot and killed him. This is not to say that cops here aren't a-holes because I went to high school with one of the Lt's and he hasn't changed one bit since then but we have very, very few cops here anymore so we mostly provide home security for each other - i.e., everyone I know has some sort of weapon be it a rifle, shotgun and/or pistol. We have very few home crimes around my neighborhood anymore.

Not all places are Police States.
 
2013-07-07 10:09:01 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


Start a train of thought, encourage people to ask you about it, then become ridiculously condescending, without answering in an educational way.

Don't you go changing, Fark!
 
2013-07-07 10:09:34 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: Not long ago the cops where I live responded to an auto accident and determined the old guy (a physician) was under the influence and told the EMT that wanted to take dude to the hospital to chill out, dude was only drunk. Except dude was having a stroke and ended up with permanent brain damage. The lawsuit that followed had the cops blaming the EMTs and visa-versa. Bottom line, dude had a stroke and the cops didn't allow him to go to the emergency room.

Same town, drunk dude laying beside the street, unarmed, beaten severely by several cops and attacked by K9 because he was "resisting". Dude dies at the emergency room of heart attack. That lawsuit has yet to hit the courts.


I am somewhat thankful that one of the DAs near where I live will actually stand up to the police. There are 3 officers currently facing felony charges, including one for murder, after killing a homeless schizophrenic man simply because he didn't sit exactly how the one officer wanted him to. Of course murder cop was audio taping the entire encounter (including the officer blatantly threatening the homeless man) while it was also being filmed by the transit center's CCT system. The synched audio/video is rather chilling.

/I hope all three officer's enjoy their time in general population
//I think I hear a knock at my door now...
 
2013-07-07 11:14:09 PM

starsrift: JerkyMeat: Every local community should document each individual on their police force as to where they live and who are members of their family.

That's actually a fascinating idea.

A .org website that is a wikipedia(or quasi-wiki) of every cop in in every city with pics and details submitted by local residents. Would that inspire police to take more care and responsibility for their actions?


I would ask for a quote on liability insurance before I did that, and be guided by the insurance companies' responses.
 
2013-07-07 11:16:05 PM

HempHead: Soon in the United States, whatever is not mandatory, will be illegal. And what is not illegal, will be mandatory.


What's fapping going to be?
 
2013-07-07 11:22:34 PM

DustBunny: I completely agree that there are over the top escalations by police and very heavy handed tactics, but what do you expect when your society seems to encourage everyone to be as heavily armed as possible?

Seems to me that the cops are just trying to stay ahead in an arms race...how are they supposed to know whether the poker game they're raiding has a few fat drunk middle aged men who are zero threat, or a few fat drunk middle aged men packing 45s and AR-15s with a shotgun or two behind the couch?


So the response is to run in guns blazing? That's foolish, it's called police work. Look around find out about the people and their habbits. It costs about 1/10 as much if that and is far more effective.


People have to stop making excuses for police acting in this way. I live in a rough neighborhood and they don't do this shiat for every misstep so why to some professionals or retirees having fun with their own money?
 
2013-07-07 11:33:01 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Babwa Wawa: I come from a long line of civil servants - police and teachers, in fact.  The compensation for both can be quite good, or it can be quite bad.  Teachers in my town have media pay of about $70k.

Well no wonder so many municipalities are going broke.


The good ones teach the youngens not to end up short sighted fools like us too stupid to see education as a sound investment
 
2013-07-07 11:38:18 PM
As far as these 'regualtory inspections' go, I imagine once a court or legislature says 'sorry boys, drug evidence you found while inspecting people for proper barber permits is inadmissible' that crap would quit pretty quick. It's a crappy end run around the 4th and they know it. Same goes for bar inspections. There is no justifiable reason to search everybody in the place for anything other than an ID that shows they're of age, and you only have to ask for that, zip cuffs are not required.
 
2013-07-08 12:09:03 AM

jaybeezey: Smeggy Smurf: Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

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Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.

That's going to happen first.

/ask me about my pig proof front door design.  100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

How's your back door design? Wink!


Heeeehehehe...anus...heh heh
 
2013-07-08 12:12:57 AM

humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....


Here is mine...

i297.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-08 02:34:42 AM

filter: I did move to Norway- the other day we had a double- homicide in progress called in by a 12 yr old.

Given that it is vacation season, cops had a 3.5 hr response time.

It turned into a double murder suicide.


...And as a result, the Stavanger police department is under investigation:

Nettavisen
Dagbladet
(both in norwegian)

Frankly, the more I hear about Stavanger, the more I think there's something seriously wrong with that town. Broken healthcare system as well.
 
2013-07-08 02:43:09 AM

fredklein: Just make it a solid wood door, and a few nice long bolts (make sure they are screwed into the actual frame with long and strong screws).


www.thehardwarehut.com

Maybe line the inside of the door with a thick sheet of metal.

My former grower-neighbour had a door like that.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-08 07:04:48 AM

Fiction Fan: All you idiots complaining about the police

But who will you want there if you are robbed, shot, mugged, in a car accident?


Morons.


You know what the cops are going to do after you're robbed? Not a damn thing. If you're lucky they might file a report. If they feel like it that is. They're certainly not going to recover any stolen property and return it much less do anything else useful. They're really good at harassing people for no good reason though. Seems to be one of their favorites pastimes and I'm white...which is probably the only reason I haven't been shot by them yet.

About the only people I want to see after an accident are the EMTs. At least they're helpful.
 
2013-07-08 07:54:45 AM
Police are disgusting animals that have been given way too much power in our society and a culling is in order.
 
2013-07-08 08:16:12 AM
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Ten seconds later this kitty was nothing but a red mist.
The officers were questioned and said that the cat made aggressive moves in their direction.
The cat owner was fined for having a dangerous animal
The officers were given two weeks paid vacation for the incident.
 
2013-07-08 08:34:46 AM

pxlboy: Except that they aren't kicking in the doors of some middle-aged teabagger gun nut, are they?


Of course not. That would put officers at risk.

/did you think that when I said "your freedom depends on having a Republican president," I somehow meant, "MY freedom depends on having a Republican president?"
//mock and filter me as much as you want, it will only make the end result that much harder for you to understand
 
2013-07-08 09:05:02 AM
The heavily armored orcs dropped like flies as Legolas shot them through the neck with his swift arrows.
 
2013-07-08 09:10:32 AM

Trid_Kicker: wide_eyed: As much as I support cops in general, I truly hope the ones who do this sort of thing get what they deserve. Their fellow cops need to stop covering up for them and supporting them when they f*ck up.

THIS.

I have always believed that "bad apples bring everybody down" and that "good" cops (or firefighters, or teachers, or whatever-profession) have a moral and professional obligation NOT to support the bad-among-them (and every profession has its miscreants).  But by clinging to "no-snitch" mantras and defending bad cops simply because they're cops, they're doing themselves a disservice in the long run.

And we're seeing the results right here -- in the ever-growing public mistrust of what used to be unimpeachable professions.


Oh, legally, they're still unimpeachable. The power trusts them. Fark the public. They're not ultimately responsible to the public.
 
2013-07-08 09:19:25 AM
I had the swat team show up at my apartment door one morning. Turns out that overnight some meth-head had stolen a car, then took the license plate from my car (the screws were still on the ground behind it) because it matched the make and model, and was later arrested. After the cops got done questioning me, the officer in charge returned my license plate and said (no joke) "You need to do a better job of keeping track of this."
 
2013-07-08 09:56:53 AM
A little Godwin before its over ...

When they just harassed black people, I didn't worry because I wasn't black ...

When they just harassed Mexicans ,I didn't worry because I wasn't Mexican ...

When they started harassing me, everyone else just pointed and said, "Welcome to our world you stupid cracker."

 
2013-07-08 09:59:13 AM
A little Godwin before its over:

When they just harassed black people, I didn't worry because I wasn't black ...

When they just harassed Mexicans ,I didn't worry because I wasn't Mexican ...

When they started harassing me, the others just laughed and said, "Welcome to our world you stupid cracker."

 
2013-07-08 11:49:14 AM

Fiction Fan: All you idiots complaining about the police

But who will you want there if you are robbed, shot, mugged, in a car accident?


Morons.


If a cop somehow manages to show up just in the nick of time and leap directly into the path of a bullet meant for me, hey, that's great. That's probably the most useful thing a cop can do in any given situation (and I do mean *any* situation - gangland driveby, political riot, baby shower, whatever).

Otherwise, I'd prefer the services of, literally, any other branch of emergency services.
 
2013-07-08 12:08:50 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


They generally don't break the door, it's the doorframe that gives. They make a blade style deadbolt, where the deadbolt is like a yard wide. That will stop a no-knock bash. It won't stop them from chopping through your wall, since most houses are not that tough. You can get into most houses with a utility knife, they are just plaster and vinyl. Windows are also obvious points of egress.
 
2013-07-08 01:34:25 PM
If your city doesn't have a bank robbery and hostage situation on a daily basis, you've got to find a use for the SWAT team, otherwise justify the cost of keeping one.  Just another bloated bureacracy finding meaning for their contuniued existence at the cost of the tax payers.  The bloat.  It's everywhere!
 
2013-07-08 01:37:17 PM
Follow up

So if accidentally shoot a cop with out malice I can expect no charges to be filled just like this guy?
 
2013-07-08 01:44:05 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


And your windows?
 
2013-07-08 01:49:44 PM

Fiction Fan: All you idiots complaining about the police

But who will you want there if you are robbed, shot, mugged, in a car accident?


Morons.


Not only did the cops botch the investigation into my dad's death, but there was a woman in my neighborhood who was attacked in a stairwell by a rapist. 3 neighbors including myself saw it and chased the man off just as he was banging her head against the wall. We called the NYPD. Not one of us was ever spoken to by a cop. We followed up. They put us off and let drop.

Finally, I WAS mugged once on East 14th Street. I saw the building the 3 muggers ran to and I ran to the nearest cop car and reported it. They didn't even take a report. They told me it would be my word against the accused and the cops even went so far as to say (exact quote) "what do you expect us to do about your problems?"

Real police response to emergencies and crime is the exception - not the rule. It's entirely based on how much public scrutiny they will get versus the PR they can generate and they weigh how much work they will have to do against the likelihood of a conviction that will look good on the record.

You need a more realistic image of the cops than the one you have, moron.
 
2013-07-08 01:52:24 PM
And by the way, while we on the left are congratulating Hollywood for their contribution to the sea change in gay issues, we should also point out that same Hollywood is very deeply responsible for the societal fellatio that we give cops.
 
2013-07-08 02:05:50 PM

DustBunny: I completely agree that there are over the top escalations by police and very heavy handed tactics, but what do you expect when your society seems to encourage everyone to be as heavily armed as possible?

Seems to me that the cops are just trying to stay ahead in an arms race...how are they supposed to know whether the poker game they're raiding has a few fat drunk middle aged men who are zero threat, or a few fat drunk middle aged men packing 45s and AR-15s with a shotgun or two behind the couch?


Um...farking police work? Investigation? Surveillance? The cops involved in shiat like this should be executed.
 
2013-07-08 02:25:03 PM
Well, or imprisoned in gen pop, at the very least.
 
2013-07-08 03:39:03 PM

gshepnyc: And by the way, while we on the left are congratulating Hollywood for their contribution to the sea change in gay issues, we should also point out that same Hollywood is very deeply responsible for the societal fellatio that we give cops.


Hmmm, I'm not sure they really deserve the credit or blame in either case... Maybe, possibly, the former, in some very small part... But, cop worship? Wouldn't that imply that cops were always shown as heroes and saints, and there were no movies/shows with bad cops depicted? Because, I'm pretty sure I've seen a few of those!
 
2013-07-08 04:12:16 PM

RobSeace: gshepnyc: And by the way, while we on the left are congratulating Hollywood for their contribution to the sea change in gay issues, we should also point out that same Hollywood is very deeply responsible for the societal fellatio that we give cops.

Hmmm, I'm not sure they really deserve the credit or blame in either case... Maybe, possibly, the former, in some very small part... But, cop worship? Wouldn't that imply that cops were always shown as heroes and saints, and there were no movies/shows with bad cops depicted? Because, I'm pretty sure I've seen a few of those!


I think they were referring more to the fact that, in fiction, protagonist police characters frequently do things that are illegal, unethical, unconstitutional, or outright criminal, and it's presented as being okay because they're the good guy and the recipient of their mistreatment is the bad guy.

I caught an episode of Longmire the other week where our rustic protagonist drilled a fleeing suspect at long range.  He approaches the (critically) injured badguy and pumps him for information, with the promise to summon medical help as soon as the guy tells him what he wants to know.  After the badguy caves, Longmire walks away from the screaming, bleeding gunshot victim and casually states, "I don't have a cellphone," presumably leaving him to bleed out.
 
2013-07-08 04:49:57 PM

China White Tea: I think they were referring more to the fact that, in fiction, protagonist police characters frequently do things that are illegal, unethical, unconstitutional, or outright criminal, and it's presented as being okay because they're the good guy and the recipient of their mistreatment is the bad guy.


OK, I suppose I can see that in some cases... Even when they try to obviously depict such actions as morally wrong, some people don't get it... I know lots of people considered Vic Mackey from "The Shield" to be a good guy! And, I thought they were pretty damn clear in communicating how evil he really was... (I have to admit, I found myself rooting for him on a few occassions, as well, but I thought it was pretty clear he was definitely a very bad guy... But, when your protagonist is evil, you just often end up rooting for evil to triumph for the sake of the story, anyway... I root for Dexter, but I'm under no illusions that he's a good guy or someone to emulate!)
 
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