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2013-07-07 10:45:52 AM
It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.
 
2013-07-07 10:56:31 AM
It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

generatormeme.com
 
2013-07-07 11:14:42 AM

Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]


Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?
 
2013-07-07 11:39:31 AM

nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?


So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?
 
2013-07-07 11:39:54 AM

nmemkha: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.


i681.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-07 12:14:13 PM
Given the proximity to Culosi's death, residents could be forgiven for thinking the police department believed wagering on sports was a crime punishable by execution.

Why should the public be forgiven for seeing things as they were? Culosi was going to be picked up for gambling (entrapment says what?) and some douchebag officer decided to go full retard. They executed a man for gambling. The public shouldn't have to be convinced to see it any other way.
 
2013-07-07 12:22:59 PM
local cops, ATF agents, National Guard troops, and a helicopter raided a poker game in Cary, North Carolina. They issued forty-one citations, all of them misdemeanors.

Impressive.

It's amazing that, if for no other reason, jobs aren't somehow lost over an outrageously bad use of resources.
 
2013-07-07 01:09:26 PM

nmemkha: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.


For what little it's worth, I tend to agree....we are not as free a country as we like to believe.
 
2013-07-07 01:52:54 PM

raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?


The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.
 
2013-07-07 01:54:42 PM
In January 2011, the Culosi family accepted a $2 million settlement offer from Fairfax County. That same year, Virginia's government spent $20 million promoting the state lottery.

I wish they wouldn't settle these things.  I have a feeling a jury would show just how much the people are outraged.
 
2013-07-07 02:11:57 PM
fark the police
 
2013-07-07 02:13:19 PM

Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.



The Obama Administration is trying to make sure you can't do that.
 
2013-07-07 02:14:05 PM

Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.


That's going to happen first.

/ask me about my pig proof front door design.  100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.
 
2013-07-07 02:16:18 PM
Reading a book is no defence.

www.compleatseanbean.com
 
2013-07-07 02:16:38 PM
"Now I'll never know how it ends!"
 
2013-07-07 02:17:18 PM
Was the book Silas Marner? Maybe it was a mercy killing.
 
2013-07-07 02:17:55 PM

Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.


This is me asking....
 
2013-07-07 02:18:13 PM
Wow, who needs enemies when you got friends like that.  And how is this not entrapment?  The guy got him to raise....oh nvmd, 'merica.
 
2013-07-07 02:19:11 PM

Barfmaker: local cops, ATF agents, National Guard troops, and a helicopter raided a poker game in Cary, North Carolina. They issued forty-one citations, all of them misdemeanors.

Impressive.

It's amazing that, if for no other reason, jobs aren't somehow lost over an outrageously bad use of resources.


That's how you know you have a BAD cop: when they fark up royally, they still issue tickets.
 
2013-07-07 02:19:32 PM
Let me see if I understand this. Some off duty cop overheard some friends betting a few bucks on a sports game. This off duty cop takes it upon himself to spend the next few months working the guy to get him to bet more and more. The cop works him up to the legal amount that can be punishable, goes to arrest him, then shoots him and blames it on not having enough sleep.

Was there seriously nothing he could have spent those months doing that would have been more productive?
 
2013-07-07 02:19:57 PM

LeroyBourne: Wow, who needs enemies when you got friends like that.  And how is this not entrapment?  The guy got him to raise....oh nvmd, 'merica.


All cops are heroes, citizen.  The only people who question the police are (right-wing lunatics/Occupy anarchists).  Remember 9/11!
 
2013-07-07 02:20:12 PM

SithLord: Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.


The Obama Administration is trying to make sure you can't do that.


Oh, FFS...
 
2013-07-07 02:20:20 PM
don't tase me, bro.
 
2013-07-07 02:20:45 PM

humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....


No Smeggy, don't fall for it, he's a cop, planning a raid on your compound!
 
2013-07-07 02:20:51 PM

humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....


You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials
 
2013-07-07 02:21:53 PM
Radley Balko is a great writer.  I recommend following him on Twitter.
 
2013-07-07 02:21:55 PM

SithLord: Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.


The Obama Administration is trying to make sure you can't do that.


No, decades of increasingly-advanced police and military armor, weapons and tactics that far outclass any wannabe revolutionary's arsenal are making sure you can't do that.
 
2013-07-07 02:22:09 PM

Empty H: Let me see if I understand this. Some off duty cop overheard some friends betting a few bucks on a sports game. This off duty cop takes it upon himself to spend the next few months working the guy to get him to bet more and more. The cop works him up to the legal amount that can be punishable, goes to arrest him, then shoots him and blames it on not having enough sleep.

Was there seriously nothing he could have spent those months doing that would have been more productive?


I'm pretty sure the article said that it was a different cop who hadn't slept in however many hours and shot the guy.

But yeah.  Ugh.
 
2013-07-07 02:22:35 PM

Empty H: Let me see if I understand this. Some off duty cop overheard some friends betting a few bucks on a sports game. This off duty cop takes it upon himself to spend the next few months working the guy to get him to bet more and more. The cop works him up to the legal amount that can be punishable, goes to arrest him, then shoots him and blames it on not having enough sleep.

Was there seriously nothing he could have spent those months doing that would have been more productive?


Well, not quite... a second cop shot him.
 
2013-07-07 02:22:57 PM

Dafatone: Empty H: Let me see if I understand this. Some off duty cop overheard some friends betting a few bucks on a sports game. This off duty cop takes it upon himself to spend the next few months working the guy to get him to bet more and more. The cop works him up to the legal amount that can be punishable, goes to arrest him, then shoots him and blames it on not having enough sleep.

Was there seriously nothing he could have spent those months doing that would have been more productive?

I'm pretty sure the article said that it was a different cop who hadn't slept in however many hours and shot the guy.

But yeah.  Ugh.


Ah, thank you. Apparently I haven't gotten enough sleep today.
 
2013-07-07 02:23:20 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


....it's giant bribes to the police, isn't it?
 
2013-07-07 02:23:55 PM

Smeggy Smurf: humanshrapnel: Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design. 100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

This is me asking....

You can't afford it.  It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes.  But it damned well will scoff at even a .50

/incorporated millibar and other exotic materials


I was thinking more along the lines of a trap door/pit with shiat smeared punji sticks as soon as the door threshold is breached.
 
2013-07-07 02:24:13 PM

raerae1980: So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?



If you can't beat them, join them.  SWAT team members tend not to get SWAT raided.  Also, those in the prosecutor's office.  Send in your applications now!
 
2013-07-07 02:24:26 PM

Smeggy Smurf: /ask me about my pig proof front door design.  100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.


How does your pig-proof door work?
 
2013-07-07 02:24:29 PM
Seconds later, Det. Deval Bullock, who had been on duty since 4:00 AM and hadn't slept in seventeen hours, fired a bullet that pierced Culosi's heart.

He should have minded the Bullocks.
 
2013-07-07 02:25:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: You can't afford it. It's only for rich home builders with eccentric tastes. But it damned well will scoff at even a .50


I should think about getting into this industry...

I live in an area that's incredibly poor, and kept that way, but there are a LOT of people with money around here who have a lot of fear of the local population. Home invasions are not uncommon, but random acts of violence in another person's home generally are uncommon (now, acts of violence involving associated people, addicts, and the like...).
 
2013-07-07 02:25:41 PM
While we were watching American Idol and doing the Harlem Shake, a police state was instituted.  You can blame Bush or Obama (both are part of it), but that is stupid distractions designed by the statists go keep us under control.
 
2013-07-07 02:25:59 PM
Every local community should document each individual on their police force as to where they live and who are members of their family.
 
2013-07-07 02:26:11 PM

raerae1980: So, what are you gonna do? What can we do?


Stop electing people who are tough on crime. Start supporting politicians who are opposed to crimes of "vice". Start supporting heavy punitive damages against paramilitary forces that engage in this type of behavior.

In other words, something.

Since Americans are lazy, worthless, cowardly little shiats, what will happen instead is nothing.
 
2013-07-07 02:27:58 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Fark It: raerae1980: nmemkha: Fiction Fan: It doesn't matter. Americans have no qualms about living in a police state so long as they can maintain the illusion they are "free".

Tragically, the illusion is wearing thin these days, but never underestimate an American's ability to be a self-delusional apologetic hypocrite.

[generatormeme.com image 600x450]

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Does anyone really think the militarization of America's police and the increase use of unwarranted naked aggression by same is going to abate by people be outraged on the internet?

So, what are you gonna do?    What can we do?

The police only care about themselves, and their pensions.  Their qualified immunity needs to be seriously cut back, their special relationship with prosecutors and judges needs to be overlooked, and the lawsuits against them should come straight out of their pensions and pocketbooks, not from taxpayers.

And if that doesn't work people should start shooting back.

That's going to happen first.

/ask me about my pig proof front door design.  100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.


I was inquiring about the pig-proof door design.  As a future homeowner, I am curious.
 
2013-07-07 02:28:04 PM
Well, when Bill Clinton boasted about putting 1 million new cops on the street, what did you think would happen.

Policing is fundamentally a bureaucratic endeavor.  When a police force gets a budget boost, they HAVE to use that money or they will lose it.  Consider a dept in a medium sized town that  gets an extra 1.5 million a year for a swat team. They may only legitimately need to use the swat force a handful of times a year.  A few years down the road, the bean counters in the city might decide that due to stats that indicate low use the swat team should take a 500k cut (and maybe transfer some of the full-time swat staff to a different dept).

Well the force doesn't want that, and the swat guys who enjoy their position of status CERTAINLY don't want that.  So you see the use of Swat teams in situations that really don't need it to boost the stats and justify continued funding.
 
2013-07-07 02:32:18 PM
Smeggy Smurf:

/ask me about my pig proof front door design.  100% guaranteed to stop any no-knock raiding asshole in his tracks.

Tell us all.
 
2013-07-07 02:33:01 PM

keytronic: Well, when Bill Clinton boasted about putting 1 million new cops on the street, what did you think would happen.

Policing is fundamentally a bureaucratic endeavor.  When a police force gets a budget boost, they HAVE to use that money or they will lose it.  Consider a dept in a medium sized town that  gets an extra 1.5 million a year for a swat team. They may only legitimately need to use the swat force a handful of times a year.  A few years down the road, the bean counters in the city might decide that due to stats that indicate low use the swat team should take a 500k cut (and maybe transfer some of the full-time swat staff to a different dept).

Well the force doesn't want that, and the swat guys who enjoy their position of status CERTAINLY don't want that.  So you see the use of Swat teams in situations that really don't need it to boost the stats and justify continued funding.


The police agencies themselves also profit from the sale of seized articles, particularly property.  This was a long article, but it could have filled a book.  Wasn't it in MA recently that the cops tried to seize some guy's privately owned motel property, claiming that the dozen or so crimes that occurred in the past 10 years were a pattern of unlawful activity or some such shiat, while local major retailers like Home Depot had more crimes in a shorter time period?  It was disclosed that the local cops had a guy whose job it was to look up property that was free and clear (no mortgage or outstanding notes) and then cross-reference the addresses with police reports to manufacture cases against law-abiding property owners in order to seize and sell the property.
 
2013-07-07 02:35:20 PM
I tend to sympathize with cops. They have dangerous jobs, and they risk being hurt or killed every time they go to work. I was brought up to respect police officers and other first responders, because they are fellow humans and they often risk danger to help us.

HOWEVER, the more I read lately, the tougher it is to be sympathetic. I'm sure there are plenty of really great police officers who wouldn't hestitate to help any member of the public. I'm sure there are many who are conscientious and kind and brave. There seem to be more and more stories (or perhaps just more widely reported) of cops who do this stupid shiat, and end up going way overboard. There seems to be a more 'us vs them' mentality, and it turns out badly for those deemed the enemy (a few middle aged guys betting on college sports...really?).

As much as I support cops in general, I truly hope the ones who do this sort of thing get what they deserve. Their fellow cops need to stop covering up for them and supporting them when they f*ck up.
 
2013-07-07 02:35:47 PM
O'Neal, an aspiring lawman, had been made an "honorary deputy" with the department. Though he had no training as a SWAT officer, Shaq apparently had gone on several such raids with other police departments around the country. The thrill of bringing an untrained celebrity along apparently trumped the requirement that SWAT teams be staffed only with the most elite, most highly qualified and best-trained cops.

www.pinballrebel.com
 
2013-07-07 02:36:25 PM
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2013-07-07 02:36:41 PM
FTA: "Using the taxpayers' resources for such useless Gestapo-like tactics is more of a crime than is playing of the game. "

But they're wrong- the Gestapo always knocked first.
 
2013-07-07 02:38:26 PM
Fark It:
The police agencies themselves also profit from the sale of seized articles, particularly property.  This was a long article, but it could have filled a book.  Wasn't it in MA recently that the cops tried to seize some guy's privately owned motel property, claiming that the dozen or so crimes that occurred in the past 10 years were a pattern of unlawful activity or some such shiat, while local major retailers like Home Depot had more crimes in a shorter time period?  It was disclosed that the local cops had a guy whose job it was to look up property that was free and clear (no mortgage or outstanding notes) and then cross-reference the addresses with police reports to manufacture cases against law-abiding property owners in order to seize and sell the property.

Great point.  People need to see the link:  an increase in confiscated property ultimately translates into money in the budget that sort of acts as a buffer between the municipally imposed budget and the dept's needs.  More money for the dept means more of a cushion for new equipment but more importantly perks that directly benefit officers like overtime.
 
2013-07-07 02:38:51 PM
It's pretty easy to see why the government is trying so hard to stop innocent poker games from happening.  Money is changing hands and they aren't getting their "rake"/taxes on it.
 
2013-07-07 02:41:05 PM
Cops are scum.

Used to think differently, until so many cops have made it clear that they are scum.
 
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