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(The Eagle Tribune)   Bill would replace soldiers' athletic shoes made by low paid foreigners working in Asia with shoes made by low paid foreigners working in Massachusetts   (eagletribune.com) divider line 40
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2013-07-07 10:30:10 AM  
So? New Balance is about as solid a corporation as you could want, even if the legislators' intentions are parochial.

Besides, half of Massachusetts has grandparents who were low-paid foreigners working at shoe factories. Seems like half of Quebec moved down to Massachusetts about a hundred years ago.
 
2013-07-07 10:50:50 AM  
The good folks at MIT are automating every step of Shoe Manufacturing.

www.openmarket.org
Including sales.
 
2013-07-07 11:16:57 AM  
When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

There was usually some dirt cheap brand nobody had heard of, a moderately priced pair of something like New Balance or Asics, then more expensive, weird models of Reeboks or Nikes.  Most kids picked the Nikes, because they were still in "I have to have cool clothes" high school mode.  You pay for them out of this pre-loaded debit card, where you buy stuff like razors, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.  I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.

After boot camp, you're on your own to ensure you have serviceable athletic shoes for daily Physical Training.  Most people toss out their basic training shoes once they get to their first actual assignment, then buy whatever the hell they want, either at the PX, or the local mall off-base.
 
2013-07-07 11:21:21 AM  
Stop being so bossy, Bill.
 
2013-07-07 12:04:37 PM  

Gulper Eel: So? New Balance is about as solid a corporation as you could want, even if the legislators' intentions are parochial.

Besides, half of Massachusetts has grandparents who were low-paid foreigners working at shoe factories. Seems like half of Quebec moved down to Massachusetts about a hundred years ago.


I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.
 
2013-07-07 12:09:53 PM  

Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

There was usually some dirt cheap brand nobody had heard of, a moderately priced pair of something like New Balance or Asics, then more expensive, weird models of Reeboks or Nikes.  Most kids picked the Nikes, because they were still in "I have to have cool clothes" high school mode.  You pay for them out of this pre-loaded debit card, where you buy stuff like razors, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.  I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.

After boot camp, you're on your own to ensure you have serviceable athletic shoes for daily Physical Training.  Most people toss out their basic training shoes once they get to their first actual assignment, then buy whatever the hell they want, either at the PX, or the local mall off-base.


I just went through CRC at FT Benning and took all the issue boots (3 sets).  I just shipped them all back home as extras before deploying and will use them as extras.  My store bought boots are way more comfortable - as with any thing the Army issues us.
 
2013-07-07 12:28:26 PM  
If the government doesn't buy American, who will?
 
2013-07-07 12:32:25 PM  

ArkAngel: Gulper Eel: So? New Balance is about as solid a corporation as you could want, even if the legislators' intentions are parochial.

Besides, half of Massachusetts has grandparents who were low-paid foreigners working at shoe factories. Seems like half of Quebec moved down to Massachusetts about a hundred years ago.

I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.


* internet fist-bump *

/ caveat: The US-made 4Es are true to width, the Asian-made 4Es sometimes aren't...
 
2013-07-07 12:36:31 PM  
This is un-American! It is socialism! If a company wants to make their shoes in Asia, then they should be able to, the American workers are just going to have to stop being lazy and greedy, and learn to compete with the Asian workers.

Am I Right?
 
2013-07-07 12:36:44 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: ArkAngel: I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.

* internet fist-bump *



How YOU guys doin'?
 
2013-07-07 12:41:23 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.

* internet fist-bump *


word to both of you. *internet high-five*

/though, I've lost a great deal of weight, so I believe I'm down to a 2E now. Either way, New Balance has some fantastic shoes in big sizes
//you know what they say about men with big feet *waggles eyebrow*
 
2013-07-07 12:46:34 PM  

somedude210: Forbidden Doughnut: I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.

* internet fist-bump *

word to both of you. *internet high-five*

/though, I've lost a great deal of weight, so I believe I'm down to a 2E now. Either way, New Balance has some fantastic shoes in big sizes
//you know what they say about men with big feet *waggles eyebrow*


They wear big shoes and can't fit easily in their Porsche?

/Teasing
 
2013-07-07 12:52:39 PM  

Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

There was usually some dirt cheap brand nobody had heard of, a moderately priced pair of something like New Balance or Asics, then more expensive, weird models of Reeboks or Nikes.  Most kids picked the Nikes, because they were still in "I have to have cool clothes" high school mode.  You pay for them out of this pre-loaded debit card, where you buy stuff like razors, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.  I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.

After boot camp, you're on your own to ensure you have serviceable athletic shoes for daily Physical Training.  Most people toss out their basic training shoes once they get to their first actual assignment, then buy whatever the hell they want, either at the PX, or the local mall off-base.


Yep. They make you buy your shoes with money from your first paycheck. When I went through we also had to buy a camelbak.

Really I'm just annoyed I can't use my fivefingers on the apft.
 
2013-07-07 01:10:33 PM  
The hell I would
www.fireandreamitchell.com
 
2013-07-07 01:12:23 PM  
Hiring poor foreigners here is much better than having them spend their earnings across the globe. Plus the waste of shipping.

Also put me down for a 4e fistbump.
 
2013-07-07 01:13:28 PM  

Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.


Huh.  When I went in in 2001, they just stripped you bare-ass naked, asked you what your sizes were, and threw something reasonably close at you.
 
2013-07-07 01:22:38 PM  

Cake Hunter: Stop being so bossy, Bill.


3.bp.blogspot.com

Just "bill", I think now.
 
2013-07-07 01:25:02 PM  

Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

There was usually some dirt cheap brand nobody had heard of, a moderately priced pair of something like New Balance or Asics, then more expensive, weird models of Reeboks or Nikes.  Most kids picked the Nikes, because they were still in "I have to have cool clothes" high school mode.  You pay for them out of this pre-loaded debit card, where you buy stuff like razors, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.  I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.

After boot camp, you're on your own to ensure you have serviceable athletic shoes for daily Physical Training.  Most people toss out their basic training shoes once they get to their first actual assignment, then buy whatever the hell they want, either at the PX, or the local mall off-base.


In '83, we were given a list of what to bring (toiletries) and told to bring $25 to buy whatever else we needed once we got there. I'm getting the impression from the article that New Balances will now be issued to the troopies instead of the troopies being allowed to choose the running shoes they want. Granted, NB does make a fine product available in many sizes and widths, but I can't imagine that NB is a one-company-fits-all solution for running shoes.
 
2013-07-07 01:25:36 PM  

Sgt Otter: I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.


It was the case when I joined. Don't know if it still is.

Of course it still means bugger-all, since the new recruits are still in Basic Training when that first LES comes in and wouldn't be able to spend that money on anything except haircuts, underwear and basic toiletries anyway.

/and they'd still be in BCT for their second LES, but that one wouldn't be cut in half due to the aforementioned preloaded debit card
//I said "LES" twice
 
2013-07-07 01:49:45 PM  

Cake Hunter: Stop being so bossy, Bill.


img.timeinc.net
I thought he was out of the loop now.
 
2013-07-07 01:54:20 PM  
So this bill would basically bring a new recruit's footwear allowance under the Berry Act requiring them now to buy American made shoes only?

Um okay, sounds more like a win for New Balance than anything else.

/Slow news day is slow.
 
2013-07-07 01:54:45 PM  

somedude210: //you know what they say about men with big feet *waggles eyebrow*


They're clowns?
 
2013-07-07 01:55:50 PM  

Smackledorfer: Hiring poor foreigners here is much better than having them spend their earnings across the globe. Plus the waste of shipping.

Also put me down for a 4e fistbump.


We're probably losing A LOT more money from not taxing the rich (at all, or enough), and the rich keeping their money in bank accounts. (like Romney probably did in the 90's) 

But let's attack the poor.
 
2013-07-07 02:01:27 PM  
It's a start.
 
2013-07-07 02:04:16 PM  

Karac: Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

Huh.  When I went in in 2001, they just stripped you bare-ass naked, asked you what your sizes were, and threw something reasonably close at you.


Marine, huh?
 
2013-07-07 02:09:36 PM  
Massachusetts is a total attention whore!
 
2013-07-07 02:13:44 PM  

AnonAmbientLight: Smackledorfer: Hiring poor foreigners here is much better than having them spend their earnings across the globe. Plus the waste of shipping.

Also put me down for a 4e fistbump.

We're probably losing A LOT more money from not taxing the rich (at all, or enough), and the rich keeping their money in bank accounts. (like Romney probably did in the 90's) 

But let's attack the poor.


Reread my post another fifty times.

Drink some coffee.

Reread it again.


Done? Good, now tell me where I attacked the poor.
 
2013-07-07 02:15:09 PM  
It really shouldn't matter because an army marches on it's stomach.
 
2013-07-07 03:17:47 PM  

ArkAngel: I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.


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2013-07-07 03:47:53 PM  
I was caught in the New Balance gulag for decades.
I switched to Brooks shoes and will never look back.
 
2013-07-07 05:45:43 PM  
It does come out of your check (it did in 2001, anyway). I got the NB shoes because at 22, I had already owned them and knew about my feet. Good shoes. The only reason I threw them out after Basic was because of the miles we put on them in 10 weeks basically trashed them. Otherwise I would have kept them.


Sgt Otter: When a new recruit shows up at Reception (sort of this pre-basic training, where you get your medical, dental, and uniforms done before you actually start basic military training), they examine your foot, and tell you if you had normal, flat feet, or high arches.  Then when you went to the little PX to pick out shoes, you usually had three or so different pairs in each category to choose from.

There was usually some dirt cheap brand nobody had heard of, a moderately priced pair of something like New Balance or Asics, then more expensive, weird models of Reeboks or Nikes.  Most kids picked the Nikes, because they were still in "I have to have cool clothes" high school mode.  You pay for them out of this pre-loaded debit card, where you buy stuff like razors, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.  I could have sworn the pre-loaded debit card that they issued you came out of your first paycheque.

After boot camp, you're on your own to ensure you have serviceable athletic shoes for daily Physical Training.  Most people toss out their basic training shoes once they get to their first actual assignment, then buy whatever the hell they want, either at the PX, or the local mall off-base.

 
2013-07-07 05:50:02 PM  

ongbok: This is un-American! It is socialism! If a company wants to make their shoes in Asia, then they should be able to, the American workers are just going to have to stop being lazy and greedy, and learn to compete with the Asian workers.

Am I Right?


FAR right.
 
2013-07-07 06:39:28 PM  
somedude210:
/though, I've lost a great deal of weight, so I believe I'm down to a 2E now. Either way, New Balance has some fantastic shoes in big sizes

Feet get fat? I had no idea it influenced shoe size.
Huh.
 
2013-07-07 08:05:49 PM  
My 10" Corcoran jumps are the bomb. I fit the Munson last perfectly and they keep shine for MONTHS out of the box. Zipper up the inside and regulation lace, of course. made in the U.S.A. madafaks. You will not find a dress service boot of better quality, period.

ep.yimg.com
 
2013-07-07 09:10:01 PM  
Well, thanks Bill, but you're not president any more.

And this doesn't make up for your neo-liberal economic policy that shipped all of our labor jobs overseas in the first place.
 
2013-07-07 09:26:48 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Feet get fat? I had no idea it influenced shoe size.
Huh.


That's what i've been told
 
2013-07-07 09:28:55 PM  

ArkAngel: Gulper Eel: So? New Balance is about as solid a corporation as you could want, even if the legislators' intentions are parochial.

Besides, half of Massachusetts has grandparents who were low-paid foreigners working at shoe factories. Seems like half of Quebec moved down to Massachusetts about a hundred years ago.

I support New Balance simply because they are pretty much the only company to make large amounts of styles in 4E width.


Wear a 6 1/2 D (women's) and love New Balance.  Gotta be the ones up around $100+ a pair, though. Tried the cheaper line from the sports store and they just weren't the same.
 
2013-07-07 11:55:25 PM  
IIRC in July '82 we could bring our own running shoes - they issued canvas sneaks but they sucked.

/Navy
 
2013-07-08 12:34:01 AM  

somedude210: God-is-a-Taco: Feet get fat? I had no idea it influenced shoe size.
Huh.

That's what i've been told


My width is the same at 165 as when I was closing on 250.

Fwiw.
 
2013-07-08 03:50:56 AM  
I had New Balance shoes issued to me when I joined the Marines in 2002.
 
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