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(Boulder Daily Camera)   Man training to be an Ironman says a motorist suffering from road rage nearly made him a 6-million dollar man   (dailycamera.com) divider line 48
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2013-07-07 09:58:47 AM
3 votes:
I commute by car every morning through Boulder. It's peak time for bike commuters and cyclists taking advantage of cooler temperatures, and there are a lot of them on my route.

Even the rare riders not obeying the law and riding two or three abreast are such a momentary inconvenience I'm having a hard time understanding the contempt in this thread, let alone the people who would act aggressively towards them while driving in a car.
2013-07-07 08:43:28 AM
3 votes:
There are asses on both sides of the rider / car equation, but in every case, the cyclist will lose. Yeah, we have a right to ride on the roads. No, cars don't have the right to put cyclists in danger. Still, the odds are stacked in favor of the driver. I try to minimize my time on the road to ones with wide shoulders just for safety.

(Not So ) CSB....

I was bike commuting to work on a paved bike trail that has several street level crossings. Stopped at one, and traffic on the right stopped. I held up my hand to acknowledge the driver, and waited for the left traffic to stop. Since it was a 2-lane street, and both sides were stopped, I clipped in and rolled forward. No sooner did I clear the car on the right, than a guy from three cars back came flying around the cars, passing on the right, and flipped me up on the hood like Mannix. I went up the hood, smacked my ribs on the A pillar of the car, and slid back down to the pavement still clipped into the pedals.

The guy at first said, "I didn't see him." Well, yeah - when you pass a line of stopped cars on the right at a highly marked crosswalk, you're not likely to see someone actually IN the crosswalk.

He initially pled 'not guilty' to the citation, probably hoping that the officer wouldn't show. They did, as did I. At first, he said he was trying to park the car (at 25MPH). He then said he was looking of a museum (in Vienna, Va....where there are no museums within 10 miles). THEN, he said that I ran out in front of him, using the 'spandex' defense (that all cyclists are dangerous)....When it was my turn, I just handed the judge a printout of my GPS/HR monitor data.....which showed my exact location, slowing my speed, heart rate and pedal cadence approaching the intersection...then being stopped for 45 seconds before moving forward at 5 MPH......then suddenly moving sideways at 20MPH.

Guilty as charged. Took three years to settle out for my bike, doctor visits and X-rays/MRI's and PT (thanks to bruised ribs, a hip injury and a cracked vertebrae). Not fun at all.
2013-07-07 12:45:45 PM
2 votes:

The Googles Do Nothing: /When I ride my bike I stop at all the stop signs and lights and stay to the far right.


Lane position is something that comes up a lot when I'm teaching a Basic Rider's Course (for motorcycles). One concern I have with a far-right lane position is this: You get the moron that wants to pass you and either:

1. Doesn't get over far enough and clips you, or
2. Sees and oncoming car and figures he can squeeze by you without getting over and clips you.

I usually ride in the left or middle of the lane: that way if someone wants to pass: it discourages the second type, and gives you space to get over for the first type.
2013-07-07 11:52:47 AM
2 votes:

ggecko: [www.allfunnies.com image 400x400]


It should be illegal to make certain types of clothing in certain sizes.
2013-07-07 10:51:37 AM
2 votes:

WRXminion: I lived in boulder for seven years most of which was up a mountain pass that cyclist really liked to ride. Most were fine, but like drivers, some were idiots. I nearly hit at least 20 cyclists, and the occasional skate boarder, when they flew around blind corners in the on coming traffic lane. The most annoying cyclists are the ones who ride in large groups and then get mad when you pass them. Or the ones who are not in good enough shape to ride the mountain they are exhausted, not paying attention, and are weaving back and forth with every pedal push.

The laws in boulder are wired when it comes to cyclist and cars. Bikes are supposed to ride as far to the right as they can, cars are to give three feet when passing, this makes it technically illegal to pass a bike on double yellow one lane roads. Bikes are also considered vehicles and have to abide by all traffic laws, and dismount on sidewalks. This means impeding the flow of traffic is a ticketable offence, but I've never seen a ticket given to a cyclist for this.

If both cyclists and cars abide by the general rules of the road and are courteous to each other things would be fine. Instead cyclist kick and whip chains at cars, and drivers run cyclist off the road. It's a fight the cyclist won't win. I would rather be alive then right.. The saying I lived by in boulder as a cyclist and pedestrian. I had friend get hit two times while riding a bike in boulder, both times he thought he was in the right but it ended up being his fault. He is a big guy and broke his collarbone and totaled a metro in one of the wreaks.


CRS 42-4-1005(d) allows  passing a bicyclist moving the same direction and in the same lane when such movement can be made in safety and without interfering with, impeding, or endangering other traffic lawfully using the highway.
2013-07-07 10:34:28 AM
2 votes:

runescorpio: BunkyBrewman: astro716: TheGregiss: Sounds like the dude on the bike was following too close. He should be issued a ticket in addition to his injuries.


If youre on a bike on the road, do the 45/50 mph speed limit or get the fark out of the way, and don't get mad and tailgate on a hill when you get passed. Youll be made to look like the douche ftfa.

3/10.  I got halfway through typing a response.

He might be trolling, but he does have a point.  The bicyclist rear-ended the car.  He has to prove why he was following to close.  The question here is simple;  What takes longer to stop when going downhill... a bicycle or a two ton vehicle?

Yes, I believe the guy in the car most likely had road rage but from the cyclist's own story, he was passed before they started going downhill which means he was going substantially below the speed limit.  (unless these guys can pedal 45mph up a hill outside Boulder)

/glad the guy wasn't hurt too bad
//and I don't have any reason not to believe the cyclist's story but he is going to have to prove he wasn't following too close (although the motorist is going to be cited for leaving the scene of an accident)
///let me tell you about the time someone did a "swoop and squat" on me in Vegas... guess who was at fault?  (not them)

Thing is noone hit the motorist. He wasnt actually in an accident.
I personally do not think cyclists should be on the roads with cars. No insurance for the reckless ones and no visible identification for the ones that cruise through 4 way stops. No lights when all other new vehicles have daytime running lights as a requirement.
I am a commercial driver that has a vehicle that is literally the legal maximum width. Cyclists hopping curbs at lights to get around me essentially barricade moderate traffic at their speed and endanger pedestrians when they get in the middle of them but they do it regularly.
They cut people off with no signals, come past at high speed in heavy traffic when I have a reduced rear visibility vehicle and crowd me.
Screw all cyclists. Make bike paths and go there. 9 years of accident free driving all my most dangerous situations are with cyclists.


People like you should take the bus. That you have a CDL proves that there should be some sort of psych evaluation for all license holders.
2013-07-07 10:23:04 AM
2 votes:

phaseolus: Traffic law question:

Intersection, car in right lane wishing to turn right. Bicycle to his right in bike lane, going straight.

Bike yields to car, correct?


No. Car turning yields both to traffic from the left, and traffic abreast in the bike lane. If the cyclist is coming up from behind the car, the car should still should yield because he's crossing the bike lane in order to turn. In practice, the cyclist should be ready to yield, because car drivers are generally oblivious to bikes.
2013-07-07 10:11:48 AM
2 votes:

kokomo61: There are asses on both sides of the rider / car equation, but in every case, the cyclist will lose. Yeah, we have a right to ride on the roads. No, cars don't have the right to put cyclists in danger. Still, the odds are stacked in favor of the driver. I try to minimize my time on the road to ones with wide shoulders just for safety.


I live in NoVa too (Live in Herndon, work in Reston).  Very close to the W&OD trail in fact.  I've got mad love for the bikers around here.  Butttt....Nothing infuriates me more than encountering a group of 8 to 12, or even 20+, heavily logoed, spandex wearing, Lance Armstrong wannabees riding 4-5 abreast down a 2 lane street that also happens to have a dedicated bike lane, or at least a section that is large enough for a bike, hell...even two bike riding side by side.

I know I am supposed to "share the road," but that does not give the bikers the right to be road hogging dicks too.  If the speed limit is 40, and you cannot sustain that kind of speed...GET THE FARK OUT OF THE FARKING WAY AND LET CARS PASS YOU, YOU SELF CENTERED DICKS!!!  There is no reason that they need to ride 4-5 abreast.  I know you may take issue with what I am saying here...but the bikers, like it or not, have some responsibility in the matter here too.  Just because you have the right to do something, depending on the circumstance, or location, may not make it correct.

Reminds me of The Dude saying: "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole"

You pickin' up what I'm throwin' down?

CSB:
A few years ago, I (among others) called the cops on a biker.  He was on Fairfax County Parkway...not riding on the shoulder/bike lane, no...in the actual car lane, at like 15MPH.  He had created a line of traffic that went back at least a 1/2 mile or more.  Once I got to the front and had the opportunity to discover the reason for the slowing, and pass him, I called 911.  The dude was going to get himself hurt due to the rage that was building behind him.  I was told that I was like the 20th person to call in the last 15 minutes, and that they already had a cop at the next intersection waiting to "deal with the moron" as the dispatcher put it.

I honestly cannot fathom why anyone sees it as being a good idea riding a bike on a, not perfectly straight, often curvy and somewhat hilly, 4 lane road that has 50MPH posted speed limits, where drivers regularly drive 60+MPH, and cross into each others lanes and the shoulder too.
2013-07-07 09:01:59 AM
2 votes:
I'd love to hear the other side of the story.

I like to imagine it went like this...

I was running late for work, going 5 mph over the speed limit.  As I go around a blind corner these three idiots dressed in spandex were peddling 3 wide across the entire lane.  I swerved, honked and had to swerve back for oncoming traffic.  As one of them flipped me the bird, he lost control and wiped out.  It was hilarious.
2013-07-07 08:46:50 AM
2 votes:
Charge the driver with assault with a deadly weapon. Maybe if drivers start doing some jail time for running cyclist off the road they'll calm the fark down.
2013-07-07 08:31:03 AM
2 votes:
when will motorists learn roads were built for bicyclists, joggers, skateboarders, groups of teens walking in numbers abreast and idiots paying attention to their texting?
2013-07-07 08:29:57 AM
2 votes:
Sounds like the dude on the bike was following too close. He should be issued a ticket in addition to his injuries.


If youre on a bike on the road, do the 45/50 mph speed limit or get the fark out of the way, and don't get mad and tailgate on a hill when you get passed. Youll be made to look like the douche ftfa.
2013-07-07 08:28:36 AM
2 votes:
How does one "Suffer" from road rage? It isn't cancer.  It is a voluntary state of being.
2013-07-07 08:21:07 AM
2 votes:
I have my problems with the Spandex Assholes that ride around Boulder, but I'd stand with them against this kind of bullshiat.  I was on my commuter bike in a 6ft wide bike lane a few weeks ago and some woman on a cell phone drifted into my lane to the point where I could slap her back windshield. I wish I had had my bike lock in hand to give her a good thwack.  Not the same thing, I know, but I'm still pissed.
2013-07-07 08:19:16 AM
2 votes:
I know that conventional fark knowledge holds cyclists pretty low on the food chain, but road ragers are at a circle of hell far below that. Saw a woman get cut off last week and she drove into the oncoming traffic lane for about 2 miles to get alongside the person who cut her off and literally try to run them off the road (sideswiping), I think I was not the only driver getting their phone out to call the cops on her crazy ass. Finally the other driver managed to pull off onto a side street and the psycho got stuck in an intersection, but she was out for literal blood it seems.
2013-07-07 05:25:49 PM
1 votes:
whfolsom4: [ ] they don't pay taxes to maintain the highways and they don't belong there.

[snip]

It's actually not a talking point.  I drive past bike lanes and bike-related signage every day.  I know which one of us paid for it, and it wasn't the guy on the bike.  And since a family member almost hit a cyclist riding on a 2-lane highway after dark, without lights or reflectors, yeah, it worries me.


ORLY?  I own two houses, two cars, and have a household income solidly in the top 5%. You think I don't pay TAXES??? Because I occasionally ride my bike to work, or ride through the hill country on a beautiful spring day? Because there's some sort of form that cyclists fill out that gives them a giant tax rebate? You really think this?
2013-07-07 05:15:00 PM
1 votes:
I've never had any issues with bicycle riders. I do always try to keep more than proper distance between myself and motorcycle riders. It really doesn't matter much if they're driving like bats out of hell, or all around assholes. Sometimes a person has to watch out for the more simple minded on the road. It's just the right thing to do. Although my will was tested once when some older guy on a piece of trash motorcycle decided to drive right between myself and another car on a two lane interstate. My passenger ould have reached out and punched them off their trashy motorcycle. Here there are a lot of "Look twice and save a life" signs for motorcycles. Waste of taxpayer money, really, because they shouldn't feel entitled just because they make the mistake of driving an inferior mode of transportation where wrecking almost always means certain death. Not everyone watches out for the simpletons like I do.
2013-07-07 03:20:14 PM
1 votes:

WinoRhino: Publikwerks: I'm no fan of road rage assholes, but to be fair, Mr Ironman didn't hit the car. He misjudged if he could get around the car, had to stop too fast, and flipped over the handlebars.  He was operating his bike too fast then. If you cannot come to a complete stop safely, then you are going too fast.

If the roles were reversed, and the car ran him over because it couldn't come to a complete stop fast enough, would that then be the bikers fault?

You know, that's actually a pretty good point. He did say his first choice was to try to get around the car. I'm not defending the motorist, but it's a valid argument.


It's just the same thing that I see everytiem a car encounters something that is way too slow way too soon. They swerve to the shoulder to prevent impact is they might not be able to stop in time. It's an emergency maneuver. Being forced to consider doing so is in no way proof that the cyclist did anything wrong. Sounds more like a "swoop and squat" on the drivers behalf-it's the same tactic people use to commit insurance fraud. It's simple, just blow by your victim, enter their lane as close to them as you can, and then hit the breaks hard. Who here thinks they are immune to this?
2013-07-07 03:04:06 PM
1 votes:

TheGregiss: Sounds like the dude on the bike was following too close. He should be issued a ticket in addition to his injuries.


If youre on a bike on the road, do the 45/50 mph speed limit or get the fark out of the way, and don't get mad and tailgate on a hill when you get passed. Youll be made to look like the douche ftfa.


IIRC TFA said that the driver passed and and then changed into their lane immediately before the sudden, hard deceleration.
2013-07-07 12:31:07 PM
1 votes:
I give cyclists wide berth when able, and slow to pass when I can't.  There's a few jerks out there pedaling, but by and large they're a decent group.  Besides, I appreciate that they're not burning fossil fuel and getting a little exercise as I drive by.

/fat.
2013-07-07 12:14:22 PM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: Do dirtbag biker was:
Following to close.
Traveling too fast for conditions.

Ticket that SOB.




So, when you're driving, and some road raging fellow motorist cuts you off and brake checks you, it's still your fault if you rear end him? Even though he was intentionally trying to cause an accident?
2013-07-07 12:04:27 PM
1 votes:

Shang-High: I just "buzzed" a bicyclist riding half of the way into the road, when there was a good 6 feet to his right for biking (and bike lane markings).  Sorry, I'm not going to cross the double yellow lines into oncoming traffic, "share the road" works both ways.


If a cyclist pushes all the way into the middle of the road, there's probably a good reason for it. There might be gravel or debris on the side, the road might be torn up over there, or there might be parked cars that create a 'door zone' you have to avoid. Cyclists typically don't ride in the middle of the road if they don't need to.

In my experience, 2/3 of bike lanes are unusable as places to ride due to being too narrow, too close to parked cars, too full of gravel and trash, too slanted, too uneven, or too torn up. They make you harder to see as well. I kind of wish they wouldn't make them; just make the road a bit wider with a good shoulder and have cyclists ride in the lane. It's actually safer to ride in the lane because drivers are more likely to see you there.
2013-07-07 11:55:14 AM
1 votes:
I've had motorists do the exact same thing to me (pull into the bike lane and then slam on the brakes). Fortunately I've always managed to stop in time. Since I'm in Fark's favorite state of Florida I generally expect this sort of behavior.

/always stays as far to the right as possible and stops at traffic lights
/rides alone or in a small group that rides single-file
/loves cars and bikes
2013-07-07 11:23:32 AM
1 votes:

Shang-High: I just "buzzed" a bicyclist riding half of the way into the road, when there was a good 6 feet to his right for biking (and bike lane markings).  Sorry, I'm not going to cross the double yellow lines into oncoming traffic, "share the road" works both ways.


That makes you both assholes. Congratulations.
2013-07-07 11:10:07 AM
1 votes:

mark12A: As a runner, cyclist and driver, I can't stand people like you. It's good to be wary of cars and defer to them whenever possible, but dont break the law and be a dick to everyone else.

13 years. Oh, and by the way, 13 YEARS. 13 years I've been doing this, and if I was a dick I would have gotten my ass kicked loooong time ago by the good, but rough hewn, citizens of Philly. If what I was doing was dangerous, I would have been tagged years ago.

Is simples: Stay away from pedestrians when they're on sidewalks. And riding against traffic takes up NOT ONE SINGLE SQUARE INCH more space than riding with traffic. As for the oncoming motorists having less reaction time, that's OK, because now I HAVE REACTION TIME, unlike when I'm not facing traffic. So now I'm not completely vulnerable to an endless stream of total strangers coming up behind me.


Since the bike is a vehicle, you are violating the law by driving against the flow of traffic and you put cyclists who do follow the law in an awkward and dangerous position when you pass them. If Philly is really that violent I'm sure more than one rider has wanted to knock you off your bike, but that would probably risk them getting injured too.

As for riding in the sidewalk, it is illegal in your city, but I'm sure people dont care if dont actually share it with pedestrians. It's still stupid. If a person stays deep in the bike lane and is a cautious rider, it's safer to follow traffic laws because it makes your behavior predictable.
2013-07-07 10:56:46 AM
1 votes:

Zeno-25: Cyclists... the scourge of anyone trying to get anywhere on time using the roads. This guy's luck probably caught up with him after blocking the road for many, many other people and enjoying it.


Leave more time. If you can't get to where you need to be without a guarantee of being able to go the speed limit or higher all the time, then fark you. It's nice to be able to justify grievous bodily harm by inventing a vendetta in the cyclist's head.

wichitaleaf: If you cannot keep up with the pace of traffic you do not belong on the road.

Just like a slow car, they cause massive problems in traffic also.


No. They don't. It's only a problem to those drivers that can't stand being delayed a few seconds. The impatience of the average driver is immense. Add bike hate to the equation and they just can't stand the idea of having to slow down for anyone or anything.

Anyone who mentions what a cyclist is wearing is a complete asshat.
2013-07-07 10:42:06 AM
1 votes:
I constantly listen and look back for approaching cars, especially near intersections. If I am going straight and car is going to turn right I will slow down and let the car pass, even stop before the intersection. My goal is to do my route and make it home, I don't care how long it takes. I usually slow and move over to let cars pass and will give a friendly wave as drivers slow a bit or move over some as they pass.

Drivers have to use indicators though, the sooner the better, otherwise it looks like you are going to go straight.
2013-07-07 10:39:42 AM
1 votes:

mark12A: 13 years now I've been biking thru Philly. No road rage incidents. No injuries. Why? Ride against traffic, stay on the sidewalk as much as you can, don't be a dick when pedestrians are around. Simple. Works. Saved by ass NUMEROUS times.

As a runner, cyclist and driver, I can't stand people like you. It's good to be wary of cars and defer to them whenever possible, but dont break the law and be a dick to everyone else.
2013-07-07 10:38:55 AM
1 votes:
But can we all agree that electric scooters don't belong on the bike path?

There's a reason I avoid bike paths in downtown Montreal.
2013-07-07 10:25:52 AM
1 votes:

blacksho89: Go look at Ironman race winners, and look at their ages. 40 year olds are faster than 20 year olds. And when you get into ultrarunning (100 miles +), women are minutes away from beating men. Ann Trason has won some ultras outright.
You might want to check your assumptions; they don't agree with the facts. And make sure you polish the brush guard on your Ram this weekend; you'll need it at the grocery store.


You might want to learn how to read.

Maybe some 40 year olds are faster than some *OTHER* 20 year olds, but barring disease, there is NO WAY that the same person is better at 40 than 20.

The guy in the article said it himself.

Why people want to desperately deny that youth is better than oldth, I don't know.

I wonder why the Olympics aren't packed with paunchy balding 40 year olds.

mbillips: You see idiots drafting on each other at 30+ mph, dodging around little kids on tricycles and old couples out for a walk.


Out for a *walk* on a designated bike path?

Here in Montreal there are places where there are pictures of bikes spray-painted on the ground.

At what point can we say we've done enough to tell people it's a bike path?
2013-07-07 10:18:23 AM
1 votes:
Also, there's a damn good reason cyclist wear those spandex shorts. They have a pad on the crotch of the shorts and are a million times more comfortable on a long ride. It's not because they're "Lance Armstrong wannabes". Would you call a high school football player wearing his pads and uniform a "Tom Brady" wannabe? No, it's a farking uniform.
2013-07-07 10:13:57 AM
1 votes:
I'm getting a kick because I'm also training for an Ironman at the end of this summer...

I sympathize quite a bit with the biker. As long as he doesn't ride like an asshole. Most cyclists don't, but the few who do ruin it for the rest of us. On the other hand, 9 out of 10 drivers don't drive like assholes either.

Articles like this are why this will probably be my only Ironman. I'll stick to running and shorter triathlons. I've come to realize that it's only a matter of time before some asshole who hates cyclists runs me off the road/hits me and seriously injures or kills me.

/It's always some dumbass redneck in a giant truck getting as close as he can to you and then flooring it to scare you.
//last week I had to jump off the road to avoid a crop dusting plane taking off on it. That was a new experience...
2013-07-07 10:13:52 AM
1 votes:
Hey, if you want to inconvenience hundreds of motorists for your own gay little hobby, then you take your chances. Cry me a river, a**holes, and pray I still believe there's a chance I could get caught.
2013-07-07 10:12:49 AM
1 votes:
I just "buzzed" a bicyclist riding half of the way into the road, when there was a good 6 feet to his right for biking (and bike lane markings).  Sorry, I'm not going to cross the double yellow lines into oncoming traffic, "share the road" works both ways.
2013-07-07 10:02:53 AM
1 votes:

mark12A: STAY. AWAY. FROM. CARS.

If you can't, KEEP YOUR EYES ON THEM.

13 years now I've been biking thru Philly. No road rage incidents. No injuries. Why? Ride against traffic, stay on the sidewalk as much as you can, don't be a dick when pedestrians are around. Simple. Works. Saved by ass NUMEROUS times.


That's fine if you're going a short distance, slowly. Bikes don't belong on the sidewalk. I commuted in DC, and on many streets I was faster than the cars, because I could pass a whole line of them at a light. The sidewalks aren't an option there; crowded and in poor repair.

You stay hard to the right, and if you're slowing up cars because of a narrow lane with cars parked along it, you stand on the pedals and sprint. Never had an incident.
2013-07-07 10:02:03 AM
1 votes:

WinoRhino: The Googles Do Nothing: It is for this reason that I don't ever want to do a triathlon.  Too much time on the road training with the bike and running into drivers like this.  Drivers usually don't road rage at runners, but when they see a cyclist it seems to trigger something in them.

Oddly, I've had more problems running than biking. Most of the time it involves crossing a street at a T intersection. Someone coming off a side street attempting to make a right turn onto the main road will approach the intersection while staring out their left window for oncoming traffic. If there isn't any, they immediately start their right turn without ever checking the crosswalk for pedestrians. Happens at least once every week. On the rare occasion they cut so close to me could give their car a kick, but usually just manage to yell a "HEY!" and spend the next mile or two being all annoyed. 

Fark_Guy_Rob: Apparently, I was wrong.

Do you think you should be able to go for a run down the middle of the traffic lane as well? Cycle lanes are usually there because it's been determined safety issues exist with cars and bikes sharing the road, or there is a large population of cycles in the area requiring their own lane. If I was in an area with a cycle lane and there were runners using it, I'd probably be annoyed too-- especially if there was a sidewalk.


I'm too much a klutz for road or mountain biking, so I run. In Colorado at least, it is legal for a pedestrian to walk or run in the roadway. Not recommended, but legal. When I run roads (very rarely) I run in the bike lane facing traffic - and share. It's easy to get around a bike.

Have almost been hit 3 times this calendar year by people turning right without looking. And I've been run off the road in my car by a broad from South Dakota who didn't understand that you need to look before changing lanes. Pickups and minivans seem to be the vehicle of choice for idiots.

Now: As for the crowd that thinks carbon fiber is a substitute for penis length - yes, there are too many to count. I stopped at a midblock crosswalk to let a family on bikes cross. Asshole in spandex passed me on the right, nearly clipped a 7 year old girl, and ran the red. I followed him at 20-25 mph for 3 miles, never honking, never saying anything, never buzzing him, obeying all traffic laws, just calmly following him. By the time he found a path I couldn't drive on the guy was screaming and shaking; he had no idea what I was up to, which was nothing except pure psychological warfare.
2013-07-07 09:53:47 AM
1 votes:

Carth: BunkyBrewman:

He might be trolling, but he does have a point.  The bicyclist rear-ended the car.  He has to prove why he was following to close.  The question here is simple;  What takes longer to stop when going downhill... a bicycle or a two ton vehicle?


The bike at the same speed takes longer, definitely. Bike brakes suck. Cars weigh a lot more, but they have giant disc brakes gripped hydraulically by ceramic plates, while bikes have itty bits of rubber hand-squeezed onto a tiny strip of often-damp tire rim.

/Have a permanent dent in my left thigh from where a car with old-fashioned door handles passed me and immediately turned right into a parking lot, in the rain, assuming I could stop.
2013-07-07 09:31:04 AM
1 votes:

LemSkroob: Go find a closed course somewhere to practice and stop bothering the rest of us with your Lance Armstrong fantasies.


0/10

Nobody fantasizes about being Lance Armstrong anymore.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-07 09:25:07 AM
1 votes:
A guy in Los Angeles got prison time for a similar move.

Something to think about when you're working out your ITG "brake check a tailgater and win the lottery" plan.
2013-07-07 09:18:12 AM
1 votes:
It would be poetic justice if the driver probably had to slam on their brakes to avoid hitting a prairie dog....for some reason the asshats in Boulder seem to believe that prairie dogs are on the same level as FSM and deserve to be worshiped.  Really, they're nothing more than cuter form of ground rats.

Also, how much do you want to bet these 3 asshats were riding 3 wide instead of single file?   It's always the ones "in training" that seem to have the believe that road rules no longer apply to them.
2013-07-07 09:11:18 AM
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Carth: lack of warmth: Carth: Did you check your local bylaws to see if walkers and runners were allowed to use the bike lane? I know in our city it is pretty clear that cars and pedestrians aren't allowed to travel in bike lanes but are allow in 'multi use paths'

So you are saying double standards are stated in the law?  Because it does sound like a really not well thought out idea to make the runners run in traffic, but the cyclists can have their own private real estate.

You aren't allowed to run in the road either. You have to run against traffic on the shoulder. I wish they'd made it illegal to run with headphones in too since too many runners are oblivious to what is going on around them.


Seriously, I enjoy running, and nothing irks me more than seeing other runners or walkers walking with traffic, headphones on, oblivious to everything. Especially the large groups of middle aged women gabbing while walking. The neighborhood I grew up in had no sidewalks, so I was always very careful and alert while running there. My new neighborhood has plenty of sidewalks, which makes me happy.

I would never assume the bike lane is for runners. It's a narrow lane, where the hell are they supposed to go when you're taking it up? If its too crowded on the sidewalk, either get out on your run earlier (or later), or find a new route.
2013-07-07 09:01:57 AM
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lack of warmth: Carth: Did you check your local bylaws to see if walkers and runners were allowed to use the bike lane? I know in our city it is pretty clear that cars and pedestrians aren't allowed to travel in bike lanes but are allow in 'multi use paths'

So you are saying double standards are stated in the law?  Because it does sound like a really not well thought out idea to make the runners run in traffic, but the cyclists can have their own private real estate.


You aren't allowed to run in the road either. You have to run against traffic on the shoulder. I wish they'd made it illegal to run with headphones in too since too many runners are oblivious to what is going on around them.
2013-07-07 08:56:11 AM
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If you cannot keep up with the pace of traffic you do not belong on the road.

Just like a slow car, they cause massive problems in traffic also.
2013-07-07 08:56:09 AM
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BunkyBrewman:

He might be trolling, but he does have a point.  The bicyclist rear-ended the car.  He has to prove why he was following to close.  The question here is simple;  What takes longer to stop when going downhill... a bicycle or a two ton vehicle?

If it wasn't 8am on a sunday I'd do the math: E=\frac{1}{2}m\Delta v^{2},

Depending on the tires the triathlete was using I'm betting the coefficient of friction was so low there is no way he could stop if he was going downhill  at speeds around 30-40mph.

This is why Go Pro cameras are awesome on bikes. It is great having video proof when this shiat happens.
2013-07-07 08:45:40 AM
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bearcats1983: The Googles Do Nothing: It is for this reason that I don't ever want to do a triathlon.  Too much time on the road training with the bike and running into drivers like this.  Drivers usually don't road rage at runners, but when they see a cyclist it seems to trigger something in them.

/When I ride my bike I stop at all the stop signs and lights and stay to the far right.
//Cyclists that don't give every one else a bad name and cause this kind of problem

I always enjoy the idiot drivers who are oblivious to anything that isn't a car. I can't count the number of times I've come inches from getting run down. Even when the runner/cyclist isn't being a dick, some drivers still just can't seem to understand the concept of sharing the road.


Chances are, those drivers are likely oblivious to other cars as well.  So, you are not alone when it comes to idiots who should not have been given their licenses.
2013-07-07 08:41:06 AM
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TheGregiss: Sounds like the dude on the bike was following too close. He should be issued a ticket in addition to his injuries.


If youre on a bike on the road, do the 45/50 mph speed limit or get the fark out of the way, and don't get mad and tailgate on a hill when you get passed. Youll be made to look like the douche ftfa.


3/10.  I got halfway through typing a response.
2013-07-07 08:38:37 AM
1 votes:
Go find a closed course somewhere to practice and stop bothering the rest of us with your Lance Armstrong fantasies.
2013-07-07 08:32:53 AM
1 votes:

The Googles Do Nothing: It is for this reason that I don't ever want to do a triathlon.  Too much time on the road training with the bike and running into drivers like this.  Drivers usually don't road rage at runners, but when they see a cyclist it seems to trigger something in them.

/When I ride my bike I stop at all the stop signs and lights and stay to the far right.
//Cyclists that don't give every one else a bad name and cause this kind of problem


I always enjoy the idiot drivers who are oblivious to anything that isn't a car. I can't count the number of times I've come inches from getting run down. Even when the runner/cyclist isn't being a dick, some drivers still just can't seem to understand the concept of sharing the road.
 
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