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2013-07-07 10:33:27 AM
3 votes:

Son of Thunder: So, will this thread be an enjoyable nerdly discussion of subtle and overt indicators of super heroes' religious affiliations, and the handling of religious issues by comic writers, or will the Fark Atheist Brigade stink up the place too much with their hate-stench?

[reads thread]

Ah nuts.


The Thing's Jewishness actually started as a Hanukkah card drawing Jack Kirby did for the hell of it.

At some point in the 70s, Kirby did an illustration of The Thing wearing a Yarmulke and reading from the Torah

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But, that was for his own personal use.

But, in 2002, writer Karl Kesel pulled the trigger and made The Thing openly Jewish, with the retcon explanation that he had always been Jewish, but didn't mention it because he didn't want assholes associating a monster like him with Jewish people.

And that's why The Thing's rocky schmekle is chipped.

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2013-07-07 04:15:51 AM
3 votes:

hubiestubert: In fairness, Nightcrawler and the Daredevil are pretty unabashedly Catholic. The Punisher too--even with a storyline that revealed that he had once been on track for the seminary.

For those who have the time and want to take the effort, this is an incredible devotion to both religiosity and comic geekdom...


The following are listed as religions on that site:

LGBT
environmentalism
communism
atheism
agnosticism
Communist atheism
Maoist Communism
demon; anti-demon (?)
Nazi
Futurist
insect-based beliefs
Vegan
Animal Rights
Feminism
Pro-abortion activist (???)
2013-07-07 04:13:46 AM
2 votes:
Bruce Wayne isn't Catholic. He's Episcopalian. Lapsed, of course. But DC Comics has gone to great lengths to establish the Wayne family as being Episcopalian.

Just because he has an ambiguous relationship with a young boy doesn't mean he's one of you.
2013-07-07 01:15:10 AM
2 votes:
In fairness, Nightcrawler and the Daredevil are pretty unabashedly Catholic. The Punisher too--even with a storyline that revealed that he had once been on track for the seminary.

For those who have the time and want to take the effort, this is an incredible devotion to both religiosity and comic geekdom...
2013-07-07 04:01:38 PM
1 votes:

TFerWannaBe: phrawgh: TFerWannaBe: phrawgh: Are there any Catholics that are actually Catholic?

/never seen one

I know a few. They're good people; you don't hear about them because they're not up in your face telling you so.

I'll reserve doubt on the "good people" description. I just can't see how they could follow the "Good Book" and not be in prison.

Besides, I also can't reconcile anyone who supports the Catholic church and it's doctrines as being "good people," though I'm sure they think they are. That's a lot of pain, death and misery (past, present and future) on one's hands.

The Catholic Church has done some pretty awful things but it isn't fair to blame current practitioners on its past moral failures - nor to blame all Catholics for the recent sins of the Church leadership.

In any event, you'll have to take my word for it that they're good people and also practicing Catholics. I'm not interested in arguing the point with someone who dislikes my friends simply for their faith.


Always tricky to make arguments that can be shot down merely by replacing one word ("Catholics") with another ("Neo-Nazis").  You didn't quite pull it off.
2013-07-07 12:24:54 PM
1 votes:

TFerWannaBe: phrawgh: Are there any Catholics that are actually Catholic?

/never seen one

I know a few. They're good people; you don't hear about them because they're not up in your face telling you so.


While I know a few "nice catholics" they're really not "real" catholics, they completely go against the church on a HUGE number of issues. The "real catholics that I know are just as much a bunch of self-righteous pricks as fundamentalist southern baptists. They are uptight, judgmental and have some of the weirdest beliefs of any religious group I know and I say that as someone who was raised catholic.
2013-07-07 12:01:33 PM
1 votes:

mbillips: Pretty sure Thor is a Norse pagan, on the receiving end.


Actually, Those Who Sit Above in Shadow are the gods of the Asgardians: http://marvel.com/universe/Those_Who_Sit_Above_In_Shadow

/my nerd dick is bigger than any of y'all's!
2013-07-07 11:28:30 AM
1 votes:
1. I remember plenty of references to Ben Grimm's Jewishness before 2002.

2. Why do they need to study this? They can just ASK the comic book companies. They maintain " character bibles" regarding every character's eye color, hair color, height, weight, religion, prominent features, hair style, clothing style, stance, speech patterns, etc.. Marvel could just look it up and say, "Oh, yes. Bruce Banner is Catholic."

3. Banner may be Catholic, but the Hulk ain't. The Hulk is agnostic; He does not care about gods unless they're pissing him off and he needs to beat the shiat out of them. If I had to coin a term to describe his relationship with gods, I'd call him "aggrotheist."

4. Peter Parker's religion has always been a sticking point for me. Most of the time, he comes off as purely science-driven and agnostic, but every once in a while a writer will insert some religious references. This guy has met gods and cosmic beings. He has BEEN a cosmic being. He's friends with Thor! When his Aunt May was dying he (uncharacteristically) gained help from a demon  (Not "The Devil", though; Mephisto is just a powerful being from another plane of existence; Not Satan. Marvel's Satan is someone else, and he has kids.)  Why would he maintain any faith after all this? Why would he still believe there's a God (Jehovah) out there that trumps all the cosmic beings, gods, demons, devils, and other powerful creatures he has met in his lifetime?

I can understand the Thing sticking with his Judaism; He's not a scientist. He wouldn't analyze it like they do. I can understand Captain America still believing in God; He's not convinced that the people he knows as gods are actually gods, and considers them superhumans just like he is (and he certainly doesn't think of himself as a god.)

But Parker? I can't understand why he wouldn't be a total agnostic or atheist considering his scientific background, his personal experiences, and the fact that he actually had an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being (The Beyonder) staying with him in his Chelsea apartment, and taught him how to poop.

/Spider-Man taught god how to poop.
//Yes, that was my whole point.

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2013-07-07 11:06:40 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: FirstNationalBastard: Son of Thunder: So, will this thread be an enjoyable nerdly discussion of subtle and overt indicators of super heroes' religious affiliations, and the handling of religious issues by comic writers, or will the Fark Atheist Brigade stink up the place too much with their hate-stench?

[reads thread]

Ah nuts.

The Thing's Jewishness actually started as a Hanukkah card drawing Jack Kirby did for the hell of it.

At some point in the 70s, Kirby did an illustration of The Thing wearing a Yarmulke and reading from the Torah

[unleashthefanboy.s3.amazonaws.com image 465x329]

But, that was for his own personal use.

But, in 2002, writer Karl Kesel pulled the trigger and made The Thing openly Jewish, with the retcon explanation that he had always been Jewish, but didn't mention it because he didn't want assholes associating a monster like him with Jewish people.

There's also the unfortunate comparison of The Thing with a golem, which actually brings a bit more pathos to the poor, rocky bastiche...


The Golem was done and done well by Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray in

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2013-07-07 10:46:17 AM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Son of Thunder: So, will this thread be an enjoyable nerdly discussion of subtle and overt indicators of super heroes' religious affiliations, and the handling of religious issues by comic writers, or will the Fark Atheist Brigade stink up the place too much with their hate-stench?

[reads thread]

Ah nuts.

The Thing's Jewishness actually started as a Hanukkah card drawing Jack Kirby did for the hell of it.

At some point in the 70s, Kirby did an illustration of The Thing wearing a Yarmulke and reading from the Torah

[unleashthefanboy.s3.amazonaws.com image 465x329]

But, that was for his own personal use.

But, in 2002, writer Karl Kesel pulled the trigger and made The Thing openly Jewish, with the retcon explanation that he had always been Jewish, but didn't mention it because he didn't want assholes associating a monster like him with Jewish people.


There's also the unfortunate comparison of The Thing with a golem, which actually brings a bit more pathos to the poor, rocky bastiche...
2013-07-07 10:45:45 AM
1 votes:

Tax Boy: Stealthdozer: [i125.photobucket.com image 737x1019]

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ISa god

Still celebrates christmas


Actually, Thor seems to be celebrating Yule there, which seems perfectly appropriate for him...
2013-07-07 10:21:20 AM
1 votes:

Stealthdozer: [i125.photobucket.com image 737x1019]


25.media.tumblr.com

ISa god

Still celebrates christmas
2013-07-07 10:09:45 AM
1 votes:
...There the guy who'se got religion will, tell you if your sin's original...

Original sin presumes the common ancestry with Adam and Eve.   Of course, people don't know where Abel and Seth's wives came from in the bible so perhaps there was some extraterrestrial involvement (as opposed to the Science Made Stupid theory of them evolving...)

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2013-07-07 09:45:09 AM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: You have a Biblical perspective, which is quite ironic.  It's the sort of simple-mindedness I'd expect from a Bronze Age goat herder.

Keep all the laws or you can't be one of the Chosen People.  The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons unto the seventh generation. Yes, thou art thy brother's keeper.  All Biblical, and all you.

Jesus said one need only believe in his Redemption and keep two commandments (Matthew 22:37-40) in order to gain life everlasting.  Everything else is man's bullshiat; the rituals of a fraternity, not the keys to salvation.


Yeah, my Priest said it in an interesting way :

The Old Testament is what a bunch of people learned kind of 'secondhand' from legend and fables.
The Gospels is pretty much God speaking for himself.
The Epistolary New Testament is the organization of the young church by people who spoke with God face-to-face. 

Pretending that the <i>truth</i> in the bible is literal or accessible to any rube who looks at it for a few minutes is silly.

That's one of the differences between the Catholic (and Orthodox)  and The Protestant sects. - The First says that you really do need some training. The other claims that The Holy Spirit will keep you from error.
2013-07-07 09:29:04 AM
1 votes:
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Hulk not Catholic!!!

//I put way too much work into that animation.

Anyway...  I look at it like this...  The Hulk is a quick, short lived mutation.  He becomes a mutated thingy from something else (great big monster, from human).  And he generally doesn't have any forethought about anything he does.  So there is pretty much zero chance that he is religious at all, let alone Catholic.  So, if anyone actually put any more thought into trying to figure this out, than the couple of sentences I've given here, you really have wasted your time.
2013-07-07 09:05:34 AM
1 votes:

puddleonfire: Devolving_Spud: If Hulk were a Branch Davidian, that whole thing would have turned out differently.

---- Nope, the FBI would just amp up the targeted harassment campaign and STILL burn down the compound with CS gas.


That didn't happen. Koresh and his mighty men poured white gasoline around, set the building on fire, and kept followers from leaving.
2013-07-07 07:31:13 AM
1 votes:
Q. Is the Hulk catholic?
A. Hulk... is a cartoon.

/  Shamelessly stolen.
2013-07-07 07:31:06 AM
1 votes:

Person: Superman is Jewish. At least based upon the '70s movie he is.


The mohel's knife must have been made of kryptonite
2013-07-07 07:08:18 AM
1 votes:

Doc Daneeka: ghambone: It is almost like they make this shiat up as they go.

Which? Comic books or organized religion?


Yes.
2013-07-07 07:03:04 AM
1 votes:

ghambone: It is almost like they make this shiat up as they go.


Which? Comic books or organized religion?
2013-07-07 06:52:07 AM
1 votes:
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2013-07-07 06:03:42 AM
1 votes:
In the case of Superman, it doesn't matter if he's Christian or not. Being an alien from another world means that he never inherited Original Sin and therefore doesn't need to be saved.

Also the churches pushing people to see Man of Steel is weird given that the only explicitly Christian scene in the movie ends with boy Clark asking why "God made him like this" and Pa Kent goes "Actually, you're an alien with alien parents."

So yeah...
2013-07-07 05:49:25 AM
1 votes:
It is almost like they make this shiat up as they go. My vote for the most Clerical of Catholic Heroes? Freddy Kruger. Seems like he'd have a long carrier with this organization.
2013-07-07 04:29:02 AM
1 votes:
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2013-07-07 04:15:25 AM
1 votes:
The Confessor from Astro City is about the most Catholic superhero I can think of.
2013-07-07 04:13:43 AM
1 votes:

God-is-a-Taco: Why would gods worship other gods?


Because no matter how big your are, there is always someone bigger?
2013-07-07 04:12:12 AM
1 votes:
Aqua Man is Muslim.

/got nuthin..sorry
2013-07-07 04:09:54 AM
1 votes:
Why would gods worship other gods?
2013-07-07 03:34:05 AM
1 votes:
Kids like comics, too.
2013-07-07 02:16:55 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: In fairness, Nightcrawler and the Daredevil are pretty unabashedly Catholic. The Punisher too--even with a storyline that revealed that he had once been on track for the seminary.

For those who have the time and want to take the effort, this is an incredible devotion to both religiosity and comic geekdom...


Interesting. I would have guessed Constantine, but not Ghost Rider as being Catholic.
2013-07-07 01:37:09 AM
1 votes:
...actually, I think he is.

And, of course, The Thing is Jewish.
2013-07-07 01:22:02 AM
1 votes:
Does the Hulk also crap in the woods?
 
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