jonny_q: Study is about a British town with a Pakistani community. Better make fun of the American South.
QuesoDelicioso: Bad news for Pennsyltucky, too.
CruJones: Oldiron_79: Canton: Y'know, I really wish they'd specify first cousin. Second is still too close for comfort. Third is borderline. But once you get to fourth... eh. Whatever./Would not marry any sort of cousin//Knowingly///SlashiesThere is an Icelandic study that says 3rd cousins are actually less prone to inbreeding defects than people even less related than that.That may be what I was referring to upthread. Wasn't it a green light on here?
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Oldiron_79: There is an Icelandic study that says 3rd cousins are actually less prone to inbreeding defects than people even less related than that.
GGracie: No farking shiat!!!Have you seen the royal family???You don't get ears that big and teeth that long unless you cross an elephant with a badger!Seriously, money that could help the poor become educated was put towards the biggest derp study in history. Farking morons!
Lee Jackson Beauregard: Oldiron_79: There is an Icelandic study that says 3rd cousins are actually less prone to inbreeding defects than people even less related than that.Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are second cousins once removed, through Christian IX of Denmark, and also level third cousins, through Queen Victoria. See ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha for how that turned out.
2chris2: Ambitwistor: [img1.imagilive.com image 298x380][i41.tinypic.com image 500x385]Here's the family tree of Charles II of Spain. It's an interesting story, for those who haven't seen this before.If you look, you'll note multiple cases of uncles marrying nieces, and as each generation goes by, they become more and more inbred. And here's how he turned out:The Habsburg King Charles II of Spain was sadly degenerated with an enormous misshapen head. His Habsburg jaw stood so much out that his two rows of teeth could not meet; he was unable to chew. His tongue was so large that he was barely able to speak. His intellect was similarly disabled. His brief life consisted chiefly of a passage from prolonged infancy to premature senility. Charles' family was anxious only to prolong his days and thought little about his education, so that he could barely read or write.
SnipDaddyDad: You racist farkers. http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/t2/race_distribution.html
lack of warmth: Larry the Cable Guy slept with his forth cousin right after high school.He slept with the first three during high school.
ArcadianRefugee: So instead of 0.000023% it's 0.000046%? Ooooo, scary.
Barfmaker: I thought we already knew this...didn't we already know this?
red5ish: When I read the headline I thought the article would be about global warming and the eventual Northward migration of Floridians to Georgia and Alabama.
Oldiron_79: I thought this has been known since like forever.
Nutsac_Jim: Oldiron_79: I thought this has been known since like forever.My pakistani buddy said 'whats wrong with marrying your cousin' and refused to believe it resulted in a higher rate of defects.. He said it was some garbage tossed around to be culturally bigoted.Then again, he snaps your pencil when he starts losing a debate and gets flustered.
Repo Man: [i43.tinypic.com image 400x300]I could relate to this episode. When you only see cousins once or twice a year, they don't seem like relatives. You have to be around them much more often for the Westermarck effect to kick in.
Wulfman: [www.motherjones.com image 630x472]
Solid Muldoon: Yeah, keep using us as your Judas Goat. Cos y'all are sooooo civilized up there in yankee land.
len470: MOCK26: And how many people are completely and totally devoid of genes with a defect?Non Sequitur, Sirrah. Defect that matters, defect that takes five generations to manifest, defect that can be passed on. Basically the answer to your reposte is "so what?" Ignoratio elenchi.
Bondith: Pair of CSBs:1) My maternal grandmother's grandparents were cousins. Once we figured that out, all the duplicate names in the family tree suddenly made a lot more sense. We just figured English people in the 1800s were really uncreative namers.2) My PhD research group had a Lebanese undergrad honours student who was going back home after graduating to marry her cousin. Apparently the boy's mother had called dibs on her when she was born.
Mock26: len470: Aside from the ignorant remarks already provided and this study, the problem is not cousin marriages per se. The occasional cousin (first or any) marriage is not a genetic problem. And if there is no defect to pass on, twice zero is zero. So much for the headline. It is the constant generation after generation of close marriages that magnify any genetic anomaly. The study population seems to be one of many generations of close relative marriage. In other words, they have reproduced much like the royalty of Europe, i.e. closed communities. Hapsburg chin anyone? Porphyria perhaps? So shove your Southern jokes where the sun don't shine.And how many people are completely and totally devoid of genes with a defect?
Europos: So to summarize:Congenital defect risk:second cousins and up: ~2%first cousins :~4%Pakistani immigrants (or royality in the olden times) doing it over many generations: OMGWTFBBQ?Subby not having the least bit of a clue about where in the US first cousins are allowed to wed (hint: it's not in the Deep South)./knowing how to use birth control priceless//residental cousin "farker"
ladyfortuna: I was kind of shocked when I found out New York allows first cousins to marry.As do 18 other states. What's up with that.
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