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(Miami Herald)   Judge orders father to pay $7,645 in legal fees for mother trying to collect child support. Correction: ...orders prosecutors to pay $7,645 to father being extorted by the system   (miamiherald.com) divider line 187
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2013-07-06 12:14:22 PM
Impressive!  Kudos to the judge.
 
2013-07-06 12:24:06 PM
"We are not appealing the judge's order despite a belief in the merits of our position," said spokesman Ed Griffith

There may be people with fewer morals than a prosecutor, but most of them are in jail.
 
2013-07-06 02:20:30 PM
Should have a HERO tag
 
2013-07-06 03:47:05 PM
Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?
 
2013-07-06 04:02:45 PM
"We are not appealing the judge's order despite a belief in the merits of our position," said spokesman Ed Griffith.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/07/3222595/miami-judge-calls-child - support.html#storylink=cpy
We'd have our assess handed to us and be subjected to further scoldings and embarrassment for our biased incompetence.

/translated by BING
 
2013-07-06 04:40:19 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?


In a family court case?

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2013-07-06 04:41:49 PM
In December 2010, Maya-Schehtman went to the State Attorney's Office and filed a routine sworn-affidavit alleging her ex-husband was late on child support.

Schehtman, the judge later found, filed documents with the court and prosecutors showing the affidavit was wrong. Prosecutors nevertheless "certified" the delinquent child support, reporting it through a computer system to the Florida Department of Revenue.



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/07/3222595/miami-judge-calls-child - support.html#storylink=cpy
She should be in jail. Maybe the prosecutors too.
 
2013-07-06 04:42:14 PM
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2013-07-06 04:42:58 PM
GOOD
 
2013-07-06 04:45:55 PM
How can he be out of work and be a CEO simultaneously?
 
2013-07-06 04:46:45 PM
Maybe I can send a copy of this article to the jackasses in Kansas that keep reporting me for unpaid child support from when my ex moved there. I keep providing copies of records that it was in fact withheld from my wages by the state of Missouri (where the order existed) and paid through them, yet they 'clear it up' and a few months later we start all over again....

/Think the DMV is incompetent? You should see the people over at Child Support Enforcement.
 
2013-07-06 04:49:34 PM

AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?

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I don't get it. Maybe I'm stupid.

She lied... impacted her ex's ability to run his business or make money... and cost the State $7,000 plus the cost of all the man hours she wasted...

I'm not saying they need to lock her up... but she just writes a check for $7k (which is probably his farking money to begin with) and gets to go on with her life?
 
2013-07-06 04:50:28 PM
Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.
 
2013-07-06 04:50:44 PM
Didn't go far enough. Knowingly pursuing frivolous litigation should be reviewed by the State Bar.
 
2013-07-06 04:55:12 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?

[images.encyclopediadramatica.se image 500x389]

I don't get it. Maybe I'm stupid.

She lied... impacted her ex's ability to run his business or make money... and cost the State $7,000 plus the cost of all the man hours she wasted...

I'm not saying they need to lock her up... but she just writes a check for $7k (which is probably his farking money to begin with) and gets to go on with her life?


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2013-07-06 04:57:11 PM

Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.


What about a black father?

Oh... right.

Nevermind.
 
2013-07-06 04:57:43 PM

Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.


Except for a fetus.
 
2013-07-06 05:00:01 PM
Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?
 
2013-07-06 05:00:37 PM

atomic-age: How can he be out of work and be a CEO simultaneously?


If he's the CEO of a small business that involves frequent travel, then his business effectively stops.  How is that hard to get?  Not all CEO's are in charge of Fortune 500 companies.
 
2013-07-06 05:02:27 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?


You sound scared. What are you afraid of?
 
2013-07-06 05:04:02 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-06 05:04:32 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?

[images.encyclopediadramatica.se image 500x389]

I don't get it. Maybe I'm stupid.

She lied... impacted her ex's ability to run his business or make money... and cost the State $7,000 plus the cost of all the man hours she wasted...

I'm not saying they need to lock her up... but she just writes a check for $7k (which is probably his farking money to begin with) and gets to go on with her life?


That's so sexist!

Apparently the courts in Florida are a joke.
 
2013-07-06 05:04:47 PM
"Each."
 
2013-07-06 05:05:30 PM
Go figure Florida is usually the state of crazy but is the only one with that deals with child custody and support cases with sanity.
 
2013-07-06 05:07:13 PM

Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.


Except for the kid(s) that have to deal with their dumbfark parents using them as pawns in a game they had no part in.

/at least in my experience
 
2013-07-06 05:07:15 PM
This woman should be given a life sentence, the prosecutor as well.  Send a message.
 
2013-07-06 05:07:46 PM

Warlordtrooper: Go figure Florida is usually the state of crazy but is the only one with that deals with child custody and support cases with sanity.

 
2013-07-06 05:07:58 PM

buzzcut73: Maybe I can send a copy of this article to the jackasses in Kansas that keep reporting me for unpaid child support from when my ex moved there. I keep providing copies of records that it was in fact withheld from my wages by the state of Missouri (where the order existed) and paid through them, yet they 'clear it up' and a few months later we start all over again....

/Think the DMV is incompetent? You should see the people over at Child Support Enforcement.


Maybe if you were a well to do businessman in Latin america with lawyer money to burn this could get all cleared up. hang in there bro.
 
2013-07-06 05:08:25 PM
Justice?  Justice would have added three 0's to the end of that number.  $8 grand? They earned much over lunch.
 
2013-07-06 05:09:36 PM
This is why those "Men's Rights" movements are so stupid, because every now and then one of them only gets a little farked instead of completely farked.
 
2013-07-06 05:12:16 PM

GORDON: This is why those "Men's Rights" movements are so stupid, because every now and then one of them only gets a little farked instead of completely farked.


And what man is bothered by a little farking... amirite?!!?
 
2013-07-06 05:12:37 PM

Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.


I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.
 
2013-07-06 05:12:58 PM

BizarreMan: Impressive!  Kudos to the judge.


That is, quite simply, the dumbest police I've ever heard - "hey, it's an affidavit, and no one's ever lied on one of those - let's just go ahead and report him as a deadbeat dad and hose his passport for months." No investigation, no due process, just punish him solely on the say-so of another party and no other evidence.

And, where's the follow-up where the wife is now charged with falsifying an affidavit and committing fraud? She writes a $7K check and walks off after basically lying for months? That's bullshiat, right there. The social bias against men for child support issues, to the point of having the "deadbeat dad" nickname, is bad enough without having some form of verification to confirm that status before punishing men for it.
 
2013-07-06 05:13:54 PM

FormlessOne: the dumbest police policy I've ever heard


FTFM.
 
2013-07-06 05:14:27 PM
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2013-07-06 05:14:47 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?


Whores' what?
 
2013-07-06 05:17:14 PM

AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?


Yeah, if they started putting everyone in jail who lied in family court they'd never be able to finish a trial.  Practically everyone involved in those disputes is lying or incompetent.  On the other hand, wanna take a guess why nobody respects family court?
 
2013-07-06 05:17:18 PM

jst3p: Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.

I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.


I never got married and don't have any kids... I'd say YOU'RE doing it wrong too.
 
2013-07-06 05:19:30 PM

budrojr: AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?

Yeah, if they started putting everyone in jail who lied in family court they'd never be able to finish a trial.  Practically everyone involved in those disputes is lying or incompetent.  On the other hand, wanna take a guess why nobody respects family court?


Never been there... didn't know. Makes sense now. TY.

So.. yeah... ignorant or stupid... I is one.
 
2013-07-06 05:20:02 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?


Bingo.  And thanks for playing the "who's going to be the most obtuse, smarmy poster" game.  If you win, we'll let you know.  Now go sit in the audience and shut it.
 
2013-07-06 05:20:19 PM

GORDON: This is why those "Men's Rights" movements are so stupid, because every now and then one of them only gets a little farked instead of completely farked.


 They are kind of redundant, as its a problem society has already found a solution to. Come on. Push them far enough and guys simply just drink themselves to death, or eat a bullet. Nice and quiet, no mess. Sure, maybe in the odd case one goes down in a shootout with the cops, but then its ok because you can just retroactively dismiss them as nuts in the first place so no one needs to care.

  Women are smart enough to band together in groups, raise huge amounts of cash, and play the PR game about any slight to their 'sisters', real or imagined, until its taken care of to their satisfaction. Even to the point of using that power to marginalize and/or remove rights from others, particularly men.
 Guys and that whole independent and tough thing they are taught means they shun any of their own in trouble, and those that are in trouble won't ask. Guys no longer have rights simply because we won't fight for them.
 
2013-07-06 05:20:51 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: jst3p: Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.

I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.

I never got married and don't have any kids... I'd say YOU'RE doing it wrong too.


I will give you a pass because I think you are funny, but I am pretty happy with the way my life is going. Thanks!
 
2013-07-06 05:22:29 PM

jst3p: Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.

I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.


Glad it worked out for you bro.  You may be one of the only ones EVER that it has worked out for.

#exceptionnottherule
 
2013-07-06 05:22:36 PM

budrojr: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?

Bingo.  And thanks for playing the "who's going to be the most obtuse, smarmy poster" game.  If you win, we'll let you know.  Now go sit in the audience and shut it.


Actually, this is the thread where we mock and vilify people for standing up for their best interests instead of our best interests.
 
2013-07-06 05:25:39 PM
Oh man.  I end up in a lot of those threads.  You'd think I'd learn to recognize them better.
 
2013-07-06 05:28:16 PM

budrojr: jst3p: Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.

I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.

Glad it worked out for you bro.  You may be one of the only ones EVER that it has worked out for.

#exceptionnottherule


I have heard some pretty bad stories, so I know historically it is pretty biased, but more recently most dads I know who got "screwed by the system" either don't understand the motivations of Family court, didn't assert and or protect their rights or are just plain bitter.

That being said for every valid "Dad got screwed" story I hear exactly zero "Mom got screwed story", but considering myself and the two divorced dad's I work with ended up with similar results I can't help but roll my eyes when I hear someone assert that Dads can't get a fair shake.

I will admit that Colorado is a bit more progressive than a lot of states, so I had that going for me. And access to the funds to wage a bitter battle if I needed to.
 
2013-07-06 05:30:17 PM

WhippingBoy: budrojr: Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Oh, is this the weekly "Men's Rights" angry Fark Misogyny circlejerk?

I see we've already started in on how white men are the most oppressed members of society and are afforded no justice in the courts. How long before the usual suspects show up and start in with the "All women are unfeeling whores' discussion? Or is that all the time here?

Bingo.  And thanks for playing the "who's going to be the most obtuse, smarmy poster" game.  If you win, we'll let you know.  Now go sit in the audience and shut it.

Actually, this is the thread where we mock and vilify people for standing up for their best interests instead of our best interests.


That's the whole problem, it is about the best interests of the kids. Too many parents forget this and try to "win".
 
2013-07-06 05:31:05 PM

FormlessOne: BizarreMan: Impressive!  Kudos to the judge.

That is, quite simply, the dumbest police I've ever heard - "hey, it's an affidavit, and no one's ever lied on one of those - let's just go ahead and report him as a deadbeat dad and hose his passport for months." No investigation, no due process, just punish him solely on the say-so of another party and no other evidence.

And, where's the follow-up where the wife is now charged with falsifying an affidavit and committing fraud? She writes a $7K check and walks off after basically lying for months? That's bullshiat, right there. The social bias against men for child support issues, to the point of having the "deadbeat dad" nickname, is bad enough without having some form of verification to confirm that status before punishing men for it.


We can't hold women responsible for their actions, that would just be sexist.
 
2013-07-06 05:32:43 PM

jst3p: Pray 4 Mojo: jst3p: Thisbymaster: Yeah, nothing in the legal system with less rights than a father.

I have 50/50 custody, shared parental rights and pay reasonable child support considering our disparity in income. You are doing it wrong.

I never got married and don't have any kids... I'd say YOU'RE doing it wrong too.

I will give you a pass because I think you are funny, but I am pretty happy with the way my life is going. Thanks!


Thank you for thinking I am funny... and for probably realizing I was not really serious.

/Also... Yay for happy life!
 
2013-07-06 05:33:28 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: AngryDragon: Pray 4 Mojo: Why isn't the ex-wife facing criminal charges?

Isn't knowingly lying in a sworn affidavit perjury?

Dafuq?

In a family court case?

[images.encyclopediadramatica.se image 500x389]

I don't get it. Maybe I'm stupid.

She lied... impacted her ex's ability to run his business or make money... and cost the State $7,000 plus the cost of all the man hours she wasted...

I'm not saying they need to lock her up... but she just writes a check for $7k (which is probably his farking money to begin with) and gets to go on with her life?


"The judge's unusually scathing order sanctions prosecutors and Schehtman's ex-wife, ordering them to each pay $7,645 in legal fees."  So she's paying half of his legal costs and the State's paying the other half.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/07/3222595/miami-judge-calls-child - support.html#storylink=cpy
It's up to the State to prosecute her criminally if it chooses to do so.   Can the State recover its $7645 from her? IDK.  Seems like her affidavitdid not make the State wrongfully stonewall the guy after it learned that her statement was false.  That was the State's choice, or negligence if you want to be charitable.
 
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