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(Chicago Trib)   Kobe unfollows Howard on Twitter and posts loving Instagram embrace with BFF Pau. This can mean only one thing -- Kobe's Dwightmare is finally over   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 28
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2013-07-06 12:17:22 PM
And so is ours, just as soon as the Fark love affair/sausage fest is over.
 
2013-07-06 01:45:41 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: And so is ours, just as soon as the Fark love affair/sausage fest is over.


I've always been a frankfurter fan myself
 
2013-07-06 03:23:14 PM
Good riddance.

/Laker fan.
 
2013-07-06 03:38:21 PM
Awww, nothing like seeing nitwit millionaires act like 13 year old girls.
 
2013-07-06 04:03:40 PM
Gotta be tough for a guy like Kobe to realize his title runs are over.
 
2013-07-06 04:10:37 PM

js34603: Gotta be tough for a guy like Kobe to realize his title runs are over.


I'm not really sure what his incentive is at this point, to bust his ass in rehab.
 
2013-07-06 04:24:18 PM
How long before Kobe tries to run Pau out of town again?
 
2013-07-06 04:25:37 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: js34603: Gotta be tough for a guy like Kobe to realize his title runs are over.

I'm not really sure what his incentive is at this point, to bust his ass in rehab.


He's psychopathically competitive. That's about it.

He probably really believes he can drag that group of bums to another title.
 
2013-07-06 04:29:06 PM
Oh, Kobe, did your condescending "let me show you how to win" talk not work?

What did you tell him?  Step 1: Have one of the top three centers in the game next to you.  Step 2: Have Phil Jackson as your coach.  Step 3: Have people still pretend you're better than LeBron for some reason.
 
2013-07-06 05:56:38 PM

rcantley: Oh, Kobe, did your condescending "let me show you how to win" talk not work?

What did you tell him?  Step 1: Have one of the top three centers in the game next to you.


The whole "great teammates helped" angle can be applied to literally every superstar who won a championship in the history of forever.

Step 2: Have Phil Jackson as your coach.

This is true - and a huge reason Howard left, along with the hapless buffoonery of Jim Buss.

Step 3: Have people still pretend you're better than LeBron for some reason.

Over the last two years this has changed, as it should have, but come on, before LeBron won multiple titles, who was going to call him better than a 5-time champion who's #4 on the all-time scoring list?
 
2013-07-06 06:18:51 PM

D-Liver: but come on, before LeBron won multiple titles, who was going to call him better than a 5-time champion who's #4 on the all-time scoring list?


Anyone who actually watched basketball instead of comparing someone whose career was nearly over to someone who was just entering his prime? Kobe probably still has the better career, but LeBron has been a better player for a LONG time.
 
2013-07-06 06:22:43 PM
Since when did he like or respect Pau?
 
2013-07-06 06:28:13 PM

D-Liver: rcantley: Oh, Kobe, did your condescending "let me show you how to win" talk not work?

What did you tell him?  Step 1: Have one of the top three centers in the game next to you.

The whole "great teammates helped" angle can be applied to literally every superstar who won a championship in the history of forever.


True, but Jordan never had a teammate who was much, much better than him.  Neither did Isiah.  Neither did Magic.  Neither did Bird.  Neither did etc.  Kobe wants to be among the best, but at no point was he the best player on the court for his titles.  Shaq for 3 (wasn't even close), Pau for 2 (Closer, but Kobe shot 43% and 41% respectively).
 
2013-07-06 06:53:42 PM

LL316: but at no point was he the best player on the court for his titles.  Shaq for 3 (wasn't even close), Pau for 2 (Closer, but Kobe shot 43% and 41% respectively).


Let's not be ridiculous and act as though shooting percentage is a valid way to determine the best player on the court/on a team. Kobe was the best player on the court for the '09 (for sure) and '10 (kinda debatable) titles. Yeesh.

/fun fact: LeBron in '09 became the first non-Finalist to lead the playoffs in win shares since Jordan in '90.
 
2013-07-06 07:04:10 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: js34603: Gotta be tough for a guy like Kobe to realize his title runs are over.

I'm not really sure what his incentive is at this point, to bust his ass in rehab.


He's going to try and pass Kareem for #1 on the scoring list.

Kobe: 31617 pts.

Kareem: 38387 pts.

Yeah, I started doing the math. Then I started laughing.

Good luck Kobe.
 
2013-07-06 10:44:10 PM

Benjamin Stone: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: js34603: Gotta be tough for a guy like Kobe to realize his title runs are over.

I'm not really sure what his incentive is at this point, to bust his ass in rehab.

He's going to try and pass Kareem for #1 on the scoring list.

Kobe: 31617 pts.

Kareem: 38387 pts.

Yeah, I started doing the math. Then I started laughing.

Good luck Kobe.


He'd need 40 points a game for 170 straight games.
 
2013-07-06 11:41:01 PM

LL316: D-Liver: rcantley: Oh, Kobe, did your condescending "let me show you how to win" talk not work?

What did you tell him?  Step 1: Have one of the top three centers in the game next to you.

The whole "great teammates helped" angle can be applied to literally every superstar who won a championship in the history of forever.

True, but Jordan never had a teammate who was much, much better than him.  Neither did Isiah.  Neither did Magic.  Neither did Bird.  Neither did etc.  Kobe wants to be among the best, but at no point was he the best player on the court for his titles.  Shaq for 3 (wasn't even close), Pau for 2 (Closer, but Kobe shot 43% and 41% respectively).


i'm assuming from your two comments you don't like Kobe or the Lakers, and don't watch the games. for the last two championships Shaq and Kobe were equals. yes, Shaq was a force, but late in the game, depending on Shaq's foul level, Kobe was more important.  as for him and Pau? you mentioned Magic, Bird, Jordan and Isiah. one could say: Kareem, McHale, Pippen, and Dumars (crap on him if you want, but he won Finals MVP playing with Isiah. maybe i should change McHale to Maxwell...). Pau was a beast, but he wasn't leading that team.
 
2013-07-06 11:51:27 PM
It's the NBA. Not that many people care about Whiny Giant Rich Dude Soap Opera.
 
2013-07-06 11:57:17 PM

IAmRight: D-Liver: but come on, before LeBron won multiple titles, who was going to call him better than a 5-time champion who's #4 on the all-time scoring list?

Anyone who actually watched basketball instead of comparing someone whose career was nearly over to someone who was just entering his prime? Kobe probably still has the better career, but LeBron has been a better player for a LONG time.


LeBron is a better player now than Kobe has ever been. LeBron has been a better teammate than Kobe since he was 8.
 
2013-07-07 12:23:37 AM

bronyaur1: It's the NBA. Not that many people care about Whiny Giant Rich Dude Soap Opera.


Yeah they do.

/The NBA is like WWE for retards who think pro basketball is real/not fixed.
 
2013-07-07 12:54:09 AM

R.P.M.: for the last two championships Shaq and Kobe were equals. yes, Shaq was a force, but late in the game, depending on Shaq's foul level, Kobe was more important.


You can make a case for Kobe in 2001, but not really 2002.

/Shaq led the playoffs in points, rebounds, and win shares in '02, in addition to being Finals MVP
//In '01 Shaq was Finals MVP but Kobe led in win shares, Iverson in points, and Mutombo in rebounds
///In '01 Shaq and Kobe tied at .260 win shares/48 minutes...well that's pretty damn equal.
 
2013-07-07 02:16:44 AM

legion_of_doo: How long before Kobe tries to run Pau out of town again?



Again? When did he ever try to run Pau out of town?
 
2013-07-07 02:18:13 AM

LL316: Since when did he like or respect Pau?



Since when didn't he? They practically have a bromance the way they gush over each other.
 
2013-07-07 03:58:46 AM

IAmRight: R.P.M.: for the last two championships Shaq and Kobe were equals. yes, Shaq was a force, but late in the game, depending on Shaq's foul level, Kobe was more important.

You can make a case for Kobe in 2001, but not really 2002.

/Shaq led the playoffs in points, rebounds, and win shares in '02, in addition to being Finals MVP
//In '01 Shaq was Finals MVP but Kobe led in win shares, Iverson in points, and Mutombo in rebounds
///In '01 Shaq and Kobe tied at .260 win shares/48 minutes...well that's pretty damn equal.


i'm not saying you don't have a point, but i never thought that baseball stats fit well with basketball (it's my favorite sport! ...sorry, i can't help doing that some times). cutting and passing and off the ball moves mean a lot (especially with the Triangle). i am not saying Shaq just sat by and got a ring, just that Kobe was instrumental for that team winning. especially when Shaq fouled out or was in FT predicaments. i never understood why it has never been a blight to Magic that he played with Kareem (still winning Finals MVP's in the early 80's), but, Kobe gets killed for Shaq.
 
2013-07-07 04:43:33 AM

R.P.M.: i'm not saying you don't have a point, but i never thought that baseball stats fit well with basketball (it's my favorite sport! ...sorry, i can't help doing that some times). cutting and passing and off the ball moves mean a lot (especially with the Triangle). i am not saying Shaq just sat by and got a ring, just that Kobe was instrumental for that team winning. especially when Shaq fouled out or was in FT predicaments. i never understood why it has never been a blight to Magic that he played with Kareem (still winning Finals MVP's in the early 80's), but, Kobe gets killed for Shaq.


Because there was never a point where Kobe was better than Shaq when they played together. Shaq carried the team (other than the 2002 WCF when the refs did), and it's freaking insane he only won one MVP. Magic was better than Kareem from about '84 on, and they won 3 more championships after that.
 
2013-07-07 11:13:02 AM

I Browse: legion_of_doo: How long before Kobe tries to run Pau out of town again?


Again? When did he ever try to run Pau out of town?


You Kobe revisionists may be deluded into thinking it's all swell, but their history (Kobe's history) has been chock full of nagging and biatching, including getting Pau out of LA more often than Kobe crying about keeping Pau in town.

And now Dwight Howard was the prima donna who had to get out of LA? You got the biggest drama queen in the league with Kobe right there! You guys are delusional.
 
2013-07-07 11:39:14 AM
legion_of_doo:

You Kobe revisionists may be deluded into thinking it's all swell, but their history (Kobe's history) has been chock full of nagging and biatching, including getting Pau out of LA more often than Kobe crying about keeping Pau in town.

And now Dwight Howard was the prima donna who had to get out of LA? You got the biggest drama queen in the league with Kobe right there! You guys are delusional.



Kobe is an asshole. Even as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I'd never deny that. But I think you're off base about him wanting Pau gone or ever trying to get him traded (unless you have some information that I don't).
 
2013-07-07 04:24:43 PM

Neeek: R.P.M.: i'm not saying you don't have a point, but i never thought that baseball stats fit well with basketball (it's my favorite sport! ...sorry, i can't help doing that some times). cutting and passing and off the ball moves mean a lot (especially with the Triangle). i am not saying Shaq just sat by and got a ring, just that Kobe was instrumental for that team winning. especially when Shaq fouled out or was in FT predicaments. i never understood why it has never been a blight to Magic that he played with Kareem (still winning Finals MVP's in the early 80's), but, Kobe gets killed for Shaq.

Because there was never a point where Kobe was better than Shaq when they played together. Shaq carried the team (other than the 2002 WCF when the refs did), and it's freaking insane he only won one MVP. Magic was better than Kareem from about '84 on, and they won 3 more championships after that.


Shaq was a force, but i wouldn't say he carried them. that team was all around awesome for those 3 years. and there were many games that Shaq was in foul trouble, or fouled out that Kobe had to "take over". also, going by awards, Worthy won the Finals MVP after Magic "took over" the Lakers. doesn't mean it wasn't Magics team. even the 2010 Finals where Kobe had a horrible shooting percentage, i remember watching late in the 3rd and the begging of the fourth when Kobe just kept going for any rebound and driving the lane. baseball is great for stats because it's as close to playing in a vaccuum is sports. basketball isn't
 
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