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2013-07-06 01:13:14 PM
"Smoke all the green things of the earth"?
 
2013-07-06 01:14:25 PM
so if i use it for ADHD it's ok.  but if i use it to relax on the weekends it's bad

fark u
 
2013-07-06 01:19:54 PM
Spliffy
 
2013-07-06 01:22:09 PM
Gives a whole new meaning to 'getting stoned with a bunch of Orthodox Jewish women.'
 
2013-07-06 01:25:23 PM
I'm not going to click on another Opposing Views link.

They seem to just steal their stories from other sites and must be paying Drew a lot of money.

And besides, who the hell cares if pot is kosher?
 
2013-07-06 01:26:23 PM

gfid: I'm not going to click on another Opposing Views link.

They seem to just steal their stories from other sites and must be paying Drew a lot of money.

And besides, who the hell cares if pot is kosher?


because.  bacon
 
2013-07-06 01:28:31 PM
GIS for weed rabbi:
www.marijuana.com
 
2013-07-06 01:29:46 PM
www.rottenecards.com
 
2013-07-06 01:29:58 PM
Why would they not be 100% for the use of marijuana?  Would they not see it as a gift from their supposed god?
 
2013-07-06 01:31:28 PM

Mock26: Why would they not be 100% for the use of marijuana?  Would they not see it as a gift from their supposed god?


because their "supposed" god is not everything.  it's just one segment of everything
 
2013-07-06 01:36:01 PM
"Oy vay?" Accord to my Jewish friend, "Oy" and its variants are largely negative interjections. I'm not sure what would be a decent replacement, though I imagine there are some Jewish Farkers out there with their own opinion, with a characteristic willingness to share them.

/Mazel tov
 
2013-07-06 01:36:53 PM
is god datura?
 
2013-07-06 01:38:44 PM
And this gets posted on a Saturday?
 
2013-07-06 01:39:22 PM
Mazel tov!
 
2013-07-06 01:45:11 PM
I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage, when 40,000 people die a year in the U.S. from alcoholic liver disease and alcoholic-induced deaths. And we rarely ever hear them speaking out against alcohol which takes so many lives.

/yet when marijuana is mentioned, it's REEFER MADNESS!!!
 
2013-07-06 01:46:04 PM
but i don't drink enough alcohol.  and i need to be constantly reminded
 
2013-07-06 01:48:59 PM
L'chaim!
 
2013-07-06 01:49:18 PM
Is there any way a beejer can be a mitzvah? That would be good.
 
2013-07-06 01:53:16 PM

netgamer7k: I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage, when 40,000 people die a year in the U.S. from alcoholic liver disease and alcoholic-induced deaths. And we rarely ever hear them speaking out against alcohol which takes so many lives.

/yet when marijuana is mentioned, it's REEFER MADNESS!!!


3.bp.blogspot.commedia.morristechnology.com
wat
 
2013-07-06 01:53:45 PM
Can you roll on Shabbos?
 
2013-07-06 01:57:32 PM

netgamer7k: I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage, when 40,000 people die a year in the U.S. from alcoholic liver disease and alcoholic-induced deaths. And we rarely ever hear them speaking out against alcohol which takes so many lives.


It's leftover bullsh*t from the late 60's when those damn hippies were dragging down 'Merica with their drugs and their opposition to freedom-fightin' in Vietnam. With marijuana now rapidly becoming legal, it's a big slap in the face to them. I'm in Colorado, and my out-of-state conservative family members are appalled at pot being legalized here.

Legal pot, black president, gay marriage, Iraq War doublethink, the list goes on for conservatives watching their fantasy world crumble around them. They're having an identity crisis.
 
2013-07-06 01:58:07 PM
In just one of these "Rabbi rules X is kosher" stories I would like to see the actual written rabbinical opinion rather than accepting on faith a newspaper summary. Even if it is written in Hebrew, if the ruling is important enough to affect Jewish religious law than there should be an English translation.

There is too much "because the Rabbi says so" and too little examination of how he argued and whether those arguments could also justify man on dog sex.
 
2013-07-06 01:58:25 PM
your in Colorado
but where's the gay

California

media1.santabanta.com
 
2013-07-06 02:06:39 PM

netgamer7k: I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage,


It is a practice introduced by Mexicans and Blacks to innocent whites and we don't want true Americans to become just like lazy Blacks and Mexicans?
 
2013-07-06 02:08:56 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: so if i use it for ADHD it's ok.  but if i use it to relax on the weekends it's bad

fark u


Aren't stress and anxiety aliments currently treated by prescription drugs? Seems that since stress is no considered to be dangerous to your health, you should be able to use marijuana to relieve it as much safer alternative to other drugs currently prescribed.
 
2013-07-06 02:11:01 PM

HairBolus: netgamer7k: I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage,

It is a practice introduced by Mexicans and Blacks to innocent whites and we don't want true Americans to become just like lazy Blacks and Mexicans?


Is lazy Mexicans still a stereotype? Seems to be the opposite in the southeast due to the housing boom.
 
2013-07-06 02:11:01 PM

mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: so if i use it for ADHD it's ok.  but if i use it to relax on the weekends it's bad

fark u

Aren't stress and anxiety aliments currently treated by prescription drugs? Seems that since stress is no considered to be dangerous to your health, you should be able to use marijuana to relieve it as much safer alternative to other drugs currently prescribed.


wellbutrin it's 150mg 2x a day

no more reading that shiat that u type
i just take mindlessly what the pharmacist tell sme
 
2013-07-06 02:12:48 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: so if i use it for ADHD it's ok.  but if i use it to relax on the weekends it's bad

fark u


He's not dismissing recreational drug use out of hand as I read it.

"Taking drugs to escape this world in any excessive way is certainly forbidden," Zalmanovich said. "However, if the drug is administered to relieve pain, then the person giving it is performing a mitzvah."

If he just said "in any way" I'd be the first to agree with you but the use of the word "excessive" tells me it's not that black and white to him.

Obviously I could be wrong on that.
 
2013-07-06 02:14:22 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin


That's an anti-depressant,  hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:


Nervous system

Nervous system side effects have frequently included headache (27%), insomnia (16% to 33%), dizziness (12%), tremor, somnolence, thinking abnormality, abnormal dreams (6%), sleep abnormalities, disturbed concentration, dysphoria, decreased memory, paresthesia, central nervous system (CNS) stimulation, akathisia, migraine, impaired sleep quality, pseudoparkinsonism, sedation, sensory disturbance, seizure, myoclonus, and dysarthria. Abnormal coordination, confusion, decreased libido, hyperkinesia, hypertonia, hypesthesia, vertigo, amnesia, ataxia, abnormal electroencephalogram (EEG), akinesia, aphasia, coma, dyskinesia, dystonia, extrapyramidal syndrome, hypokinesia, increased libido, neuralgia, neuropathy, unmasking tardive dyskinesia, abnormal neurological exam, impaired attention, sciatica, and aphasia have been reported rarely.

Grand mal seizures have been reported in 0.4% of patients undergoing bupropion therapy at dosages up to 450 mg daily. The incidence of seizures increases dramatically at higher dosages. The seizure rate in patients taking sustained-release bupropion up to a dosage of 300 mg/day (e.g. for smoking cessation) has been approximated at 0.1%.

The seizure risk associated with bupropion is dose-related but may also be dependent on concomitant predisposing factors, such as: a history of seizure disorder or head trauma; concomitant treatment with agents that lower seizure threshold (antipsychotics, antidepressants, theophylline, systemic steroids, etc.); or circumstances associated with increased risk of seizures (abrupt withdrawal of a benzodiazepine or alcohol, excessive alcohol intake, addiction to opioids, etc). One retrospective analysis has suggested that advancing age may be protective against bupropion induced seizures.

Insomnia may also be dose-dependent. In a dose response clinical study for smoking cessation, 29% of patients receiving bupropion 150 mg/day versus 35% of those receiving 300 mg/day reported insomnia. Insomnia may be minimized by reducing the dosage or avoiding administration at bedtime.

The Australian Adverse Drug Reaction Advisory Committee reported that 268 of the 780 reports it received in association with bupropion through mid-May 2001 involved nervous system disorders.

Two cases of elderly patients falling backwards have been attributed to the effects of bupropion on the basal ganglia.

Nearly all selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, mixed serotonin/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, and tricyclic antidepressants cause sleep abnormalities to some extent. These antidepressants have marked dose-dependent effects on rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, causing reductions in the overall amount of REM sleep over the night and delays the first entry into REM sleep (increased REM sleep onset latency (ROL), both in healthy subjects and depressed patients. The antidepressants that increase serotonin function appear to have the greatest effect on REM sleep. The reduction in REM sleep is greatest early in treatment, but gradually returns towards baseline during long-term therapy; however, ROL remains long. Following discontinuation of therapy the amount of REM sleep tends to rebound. Some of these drugs (i.e., bupropion, mirtazapine, nefazodone, trazodone, trimipramine) appear to have a modest or minimal effect on REM sleep.

Gastrointestinal

Gastrointestinal side effects have frequently included dry mouth (12% to 28%), nausea (9% to 15%), constipation (7%), diarrhea (9%), bloating (7%), cramps (7%), anorexia, vomiting, dysphagia, increase in appetite, taste perversion, abdominal pain, and dyspepsia. Bruxism, gastric reflux, gingivitis, glossitis, increased salivation, mouth ulcers, stomatitis, thirst disturbance, increased salivary flow, and flatulence have been reported infrequently. Edema of the tongue, gustatory disturbance, colitis, esophagitis, gastrointestinal hemorrhage, gum hemorrhage, intestinal perforation, pancreatitis, stomach ulcer, and stool abnormality have been reported rarely.

Genitourinary

One study in which 150 patients received the sustained released form of bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin) reported the incidence of orgasm dysfunction at 8% in patients receiving a 300 mg daily dose and 10% in patients receiving a 400 mg daily dose.

Among antidepressants, bupropion may be associated with the lowest incidence of sexual dysfunction (i.e., impotence, abnormal ejaculation, changes in libido).

Genitourinary side effects have included urinary frequency, urinary urgency, vaginal hemorrhage, urinary tract infection, impotence, menstrual complaints/irregularities, nocturia, and polyuria. Abnormal ejaculation, dyspareunia, dysuria, gynecomastia, menopause, painful erection, prostate disorder, salpingitis, urinary incontinence, urinary retention, urinary tract disorder, vaginitis, cystitis, vaginal irritation, testicular swelling, enuresis, glycosuria, ovarian disorder, pelvic infection, and painful ejaculation have been reported rarely.

Psychiatric

Psychiatric side effects have frequently included anxiety (6%), nervousness, agitation, depression, irritability, derealization, and hypomania. Depersonalization, emotional lability, hostility, suicidal ideation, aggression, delusions, euphoria, hallucinations, manic reaction, nightmares, paranoid ideation, delirium, psychosis, organic mental disorders, catatonia, restlessness, and completed suicide have been reported rarely.

The Australian Adverse Drug Reaction Advisory Committee reported that 285 of the 780 reports it received in association with bupropion through mid-May 2001 involved psychological disturbances.

Two cases of tactile hallucinations ("bugs crawling over skin") have been reported in association with bupropion extended-release (200 mg twice daily) therapy. In both cases the symptoms abated following a reduction in the total daily dose of bupropion (300 mg daily).

Cardiovascular

Cardiovascular side effects have frequently included palpitation, cardiac arrhythmias, hypertension (in some cases severe), hypotension, syncope, tachycardia, and edema. Postural hypotension, chest pain, electrocardiogram (ECG) abnormalities (premature beats and nonspecific ST- T changes), stroke, and vasodilation have been reported infrequently. Phlebitis and myocardial infarction have been reported rarely. There are also reports of complete atrioventricular (AV) block, extrasystoles, bradycardia, and myocardial infarction. Some investigators have suggested that bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin) therapy may be 10 to 100 times less likely to induce conduction problems than tricyclic antidepressants.

Hypertension has been reported regarding both patients with and without evidence of preexisting hypertension.

Dermatologic

The Australian Adverse Drug Reaction Advisory Committee reported that 307 of the 780 reports it received in association with bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin) through mid- May 2001 involved skin reactions. Urticaria was the most commonly reported event (167 cases). Other rashes (86 cases) were also reported.

Dermatologic side effects have frequently included sweating, hives (6%), rash (6%), pruritus (6%), urticaria, flushing, pallor, and dry skin. Alopecia and acne have been reported infrequently. Angioedema, exfoliative dermatitis, maculopapular rash, change in hair color, and hirsutism have been reported rarely. Two cases of erythema multiforme have also been reported.

Endocrine

Endocrine side effects have infrequently included syndrome of inappropriate antidiuretic hormone and hormone level changes.

Hematologic

Hematologic side effects have rarely included ecchymosis, anemia, leukocytosis, leukopenia, lymphadenopathy, pancytopenia, thrombocytopenia, and eosinophilia.

Hypersensitivity

Hypersensitivity side effects have rarely included reports of anaphylactoid reactions during clinical trials. In addition, there have been isolated cases of anaphylactic shock associated with bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin)

Other

Other side effects have frequently included flu-like symptoms (3%), asthenia, pain, fatigue, fever/chills, and auditory disturbance. Facial edema, photosensitivity, peripheral edema, deafness, body odor, tinnitus, and malaise have been reported rarely.

False-positive urine immunoassay screening tests for amphetamines have been reported in patients taking bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin) This can happen even following discontinuation of therapy. This is due to lack of specificity of some screening tests. Confirmatory tests, such as gas chromatography/mass spectrometry, will distinguish bupropion from amphetamines.

Metabolic

Metabolic side effects have frequently included weight loss and weight gain. Hyponatremia, hyperglycemia, hypoglycemia have also been reported in patients receiving bupropion (the active ingredient contained in Wellbutrin)

Musculoskeletal

Musculoskeletal side effects have frequently included arthritis. Leg cramps, musculoskeletal chest pain, muscle rigidity, rhabdomyolysis, and muscle weakness have been reported rarely.

Hepatic

Hepatic side effects have rarely included jaundice, abnormal liver function tests, hepatic damage, and hepatitis.

Respiratory

Respiratory side effects have frequently included upper respiratory complaints and cough. Bronchospasm, bronchitis, dyspnea, epistaxis, rate or rhythm disorder, pulmonary embolism, and pneumonia have been reported rarely.

Ocular

Ocular side effects have rarely included accommodation abnormality, dry eye, diplopia, mydriasis, blurred vision, and increased intraocular pressure.

Immunologic

Immunologic side effects have included isolated cases of Stevens-Johnson syndrome and serum sickness-like reactions.

Read more at  http://www.drugs.com/sfx/wellbutrin-side-effects.html#1erBw9gz4jXE0fC h .99
 
2013-07-06 02:14:31 PM
see ur all that i have and your all that i need
 
2013-07-06 02:18:50 PM

mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin

That's an anti-depressant, hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:


That stuff is f*cking awful.
 
2013-07-06 02:19:07 PM

mizchief: That's an anti-depressant,  hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:


Wellbutrin is also a great way to commit suicide as well. By cardiac problems, they mean this:

cdn.lifeinthefastlane.com

Complete Atrio-ventricular block.

Wellbutrin is one of those "One-pill kill" drugs in kids, along the lines of norvasc and verapamil.

Symptomatic poisonings with symptoms of circulatory compromise will either get Intralipid Rescue, or they'll end up on cardiac bypass or ECMO.
 
2013-07-06 02:20:25 PM

thamike: mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin

That's an anti-depressant, hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:

That stuff is f*cking awful.


it's not bad.  it helps u lose weight

which is the problem behind EVERY psychiatric problem.  in the US

we're just too fat
 
2013-07-06 02:20:51 PM

Gonz: Can you roll on Shabbos?


Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't farking ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shiate *don't f
 
2013-07-06 02:21:28 PM
Farking roll on Shabbos. Shiner Shabbos!
 
2013-07-06 02:22:24 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it's not bad.


I just said it's f*cking awful. I'm not getting that impression second hand.
 
2013-07-06 02:23:13 PM

thamike: Jon iz teh kewl: it's not bad.

I just said it's f*cking awful. I'm not getting that impression second hand.


whatever it makes me masturbate.  so it's not that bad
 
2013-07-06 02:23:15 PM

crazydave023: Farking roll on Shabbos. Shiner Shabbos!


Wait, did they make ecstasy kosher too?
 
2013-07-06 02:23:59 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it makes me masturbate.


i didn't know you had it so bad, dude.
 
2013-07-06 02:24:08 PM

thamike: mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin

That's an anti-depressant, hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:

That stuff is f*cking awful.


We even having celebrity docs shilling it for Glaxo:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/07/how-dr-drew-sold-h is -cred-to-big-pharma/259473/
 
2013-07-06 02:25:28 PM

beer4breakfast: We even having celebrity docs shilling it for Glaxo:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/07/how-dr-drew-sold-h is -cred-to-big-pharma/259473/


That guy should be stripped of his credentials.  That Celebrity Rehab thing is pure evil.
 
2013-07-06 02:27:54 PM

thamike: Jon iz teh kewl: it's not bad.

I just said it's f*cking awful. I'm not getting that impression second hand.


normally it's to child porn.  so it's a CHANGE
 
2013-07-06 02:31:08 PM

thamike: mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin

That's an anti-depressant, hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:

That stuff is f*cking awful.


Good for quitting smoking though.
 
2013-07-06 02:52:38 PM

REO-Weedwagon: netgamer7k: I'll never understand why conservatives and right wing fundies throw a fit about marijuana usage, when 40,000 people die a year in the U.S. from alcoholic liver disease and alcoholic-induced deaths. And we rarely ever hear them speaking out against alcohol which takes so many lives.

It's leftover bullsh*t from the late 60's when those damn hippies were dragging down 'Merica with their drugs and their opposition to freedom-fightin' in Vietnam. With marijuana now rapidly becoming legal, it's a big slap in the face to them. I'm in Colorado, and my out-of-state conservative family members are appalled at pot being legalized here.

Legal pot, black president, gay marriage, Iraq War doublethink, the list goes on for conservatives watching their fantasy world crumble around them. They're having an identity crisis.


Here's my problem. I live in a state where it's legal for medical use. I have severe joint pain and work full time in a job that requires motion.

I also work at a site that requires drug screening, and who will happily fire me if I tested positive for marijuana. So... I deal with and hurt like hell because it's not worth being unemployed.

War on drugs is pointless when they're busy going after cancer granny who smokes a bowl for it, when those resources and money could go towards stopping actual hard drug use.
 
2013-07-06 02:52:38 PM
So weed is Kosher with old testament gawd as is 2 or more chicks at the same time? Maybe this religion thing isnt as crazy as it sounds.
 
2013-07-06 02:55:21 PM
He is pretty fly for a Rabbi!
 
2013-07-06 03:05:30 PM
So Kosher Kush is just a clever name?
 
2013-07-06 03:10:28 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: thamike: Jon iz teh kewl: it's not bad.

I just said it's f*cking awful. I'm not getting that impression second hand.

normally it's to child porn.  so it's a CHANGE


You should switch to cocaine. It makes the porn EVEN BETTER.

You're welcome.
 
2013-07-06 03:11:43 PM
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2013-07-06 03:28:22 PM

thamike: mizchief: Jon iz teh kewl: wellbutrin

That's an anti-depressant, hope your quack doctor doesn't prescribe it for stress:

That stuff is f*cking awful.


i was on wellbutrin for two years...in a cocktail of another anti depressant and mood stabilliser... i had zombie times..
 
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